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What are your farewell words to Nyelv Stomach?

>>23438117
I know people make fun of him, but the last episodes, plus the fact that was shocked and hurt at Rakia's betrayal, makes the best case for "being book smart doesn't make you street smart". Nyelv thought himself smarter than most, but I the end he was dependant on his siblings just like every Stomach member

>>23438117
He's a disappointment.

What are your pros and cons on this week's episode?

>>23438191
I've consistently enjoyed the cinematography of the "mass victim" scenes in Gavv and while it is a slower episode I do think it's managed to get the characters set for where they need to be for the final battle, with Lango set to help against Bocca there is room for things to fit into the last episodes.

>>23438117
Cutelv will be missed ;ω;
He tried his besht...

What is Bocca's human breeding strategy to keep the farm going in the future

>>23438640
he didn't think that far ahead

>>23438640
Obviously in the part where they're all happy and playing around they will have sex, but can't show that on screen.

>>23438689
So the farm is basically Brave New World

>>23438149
He always had an underlying inferiority to Dente too. So not even as booksmart as he thought.

>>23438117
Zomb was right.

>>23438117
RIP to the best Reiwa antagonist.

>>23438117
Just like others have stated, pathetic granute royale.
I'm curious to see komura's treatment of lango later on, is he gonna be pathetic jobber to bocca or suddenly backstab him.

What the hell happened with Kamen Rider Kabuto?

It feels as if the show completely lost its direction around the halfway point, and just kept trying random shit until they ran out of episodes to fill out. Most of the 2nd-half plots are half-assed at best and pointless at worse.

It's well-documented that Hibiki's second half got fucked over by the director change to the guy who did the mediocre movie, but I really want to know what the fuck happened to screw up Kabuto so much.

>>23439733
Anon, this isn't the general.

>>23439733
Hiyori's actress suffering health issues + Drake's actor leaving the show for long periods of time for his music career

>>23438117
MEEP MEEP

Bocca applied the classic ''ahead of your bullshit''

>>23438117
A poetic death for a scheming coward. He's also the best Stomach member by far.

>>23438640
Leave that to me.

>>23439344
Zomb didn't deserve his shitty family. He just wanted to run a genocidal drug dealing empire in peace ;_;

>>23440063
He made his drug empire just so he could spend some time with his brother

>>23440027
Put your dick away Bouche, human/granute hybrids can't be pressed

>>23438640
does he need to?
you get 1 dark treat for every person and only the top of granute society that specifically needs to be bribed/blackmailed will get them

>bomb actually goes off like it's supposed to
>you die, Shouma dies, Shouma's friends die, a ton of humans die after you told Shouma they wouldn't, Granute world has a power vacuum and arguably wouldn't improve
probably should have just stuck to being evil

This entire ending arc is an absolute fucking mess

>>23440286
He also wants to produce Dark Treats for the lower classes, when he visited the human world he said he would repurpose the filthy human buildings into low quality stock facilities.

>>23439935
>He's also the best Stomach member by far.
That's not really saying much.

Shoma genuinely being worried about Nyelv was the worst part of the episode. I know you allied with him due to the greater good, but is your memory that bad that you forgot all the evil shit he did and be worried about his life? Even if you two succeeded that doesn’t make you friends or loving family. Shoma can be such a tool sometimes.
>>23438117
Funny death and still the best Stomach sibling even if that doesn’t mean much.

>>23440496
>Shoma genuinely being worried about Nyelv was the worst part of the episode.
It's funny because Lakia was talking to Hanto earlier about how cunning Shouma was and how he probably joined hands with Nyelv just as a means to an end. But then Shouma is shown to actually care about him even if it's just a bit, and he also claims he took the offer partly because he felt Nyelv was being honest.

>>23438191
Pros
>Bocca isn't a dumb villain
>Hanto's issues with Shouma and Nyelv's deal were justified
>They remembered Hanto's mentor and one of his lessons, putting a different spin on it
>Nyelv had a fitting end, at least on paper

Cons
>Hanto acting like an abusive husband to Shouma yet again, this late into the show
>Shouma feeling for his brother kinda contradicts Lakia's pep talk to calm Hanto down
>the dumb happy hypnosis comedy scenes take away from the gravity of the situation just like they did in the Zombie Suga arc, and so did the scenes of Hanto recieving Looney Tunes-tier abuse in the last fight
>Nyelv being outplayed last week takes away from the impact of him being outplayed this week, it made him look way too pathetic and reminds me of how wasted and disappointing his character is
>I don't really buy any of his "I did it for the family" shit
>his Wile E. Coyote-ass death left me cold
>this was also Hanto's last fight against Nyelv, and he still fucking lost it. In the end Hanto was cucked out of a proper endgame rival, and I'm not sure if he will ever get a chance to really shine on his own in the last few remaining episodes. Even if he did, it's probably gonna be against some loser completely unrelated to his character arc like Jiip or Lizel.
>Bocca once again pulling the "I prepared a countermeasure off-screen" card like he did last week. I would be sorta okay if it had just happened once, but doing it twice in a row is just too much contrived bullshit for my taste

Really mediocre episode overall, Gavv's endgame hasn't been very good.

>>23440570
You would think Shoma would have learned by now not to be so naively trusting of everyone. There is no reason for him to be so softhearted anymore, especially towards any of his siblings and especially when Nyelv himself did some pretty heinous shit right in front of him.

>>23438117
I didn't understand his final plan and he died in a stupid way.

>>23440652
>In the end Hanto was cucked out of a proper endgame rival
He already had this with his mom's kidnapper, I think it was a mistake to kill him off though still.
>Bocca once again pulling the "I prepared a countermeasure off-screen" card like he did last week. I would be sorta okay if it had just happened once, but doing it twice in a row is just too much contrived bullshit for my taste
If he made some line about how since he is a politician he knows more about dirty dealing and betrayal and shit than some tech guy but it still makes sense in that context even without the line.
I disagree with most of this other stuff you wrote too but these are the only ones I can be bothered to write out.
There are my own problems with Gavv but they aren't as major and are more about pacing and some characters needing more depth or some things being resolved too fast, not about who winning what fight or characters acting in character. I wish the bitter gavv shit didn't last as long so they had more time to flesh out other characters like the stomachs and Sachiko but I still think it is adequate and still the best Reiwa we have had (the bar is pretty low and only Zero-One can even compete imo even though it dropped the ball really hard at points)

>>23440496
>>23440570
>>23441047
Wasn't Nyelv genuinely planning to become a >good guy as long as they would overthrow Bocca successfully? He did feel honest about all that...

>>23441356
He wasn't becoming a good guy, he did all of this because he wanted the Stomach family to rule over the Granute World.

>>23441356
"Good guy" is a stretch, but he seemed sincere about leaving the human world alone.

>>23441327
>He already had this with his mom's kidnapper, I think it was a mistake to kill him off though still.
He didn't, his mom's kidnapper stopped being a bad guy long ago, and their confrontation was less a fight and more an assisted suicide that Hanto didn't go through with at the end, the guy (who isn't even a recurring character) didn't even fight back. All of this also happened in the 30s, before we got into the endgame proper. We later got Zombie Suga, and Hanto clearly still had personal issues with Nyelv up to this episode, but neither had satisfactory conclusions for Hanto's character.
>If he made some line about how since he is a politician he knows more about dirty dealing and betrayal and shit than some tech guy but it still makes sense in that context even without the line.
My problem isn't that he's cunning or that he expected to be backstabbed by Nyelv, I actually put that as a pro for this episode, my problem is how they went about it. They pulled this "I did some bullshit offscreen to save my ass" thing twice in a row, and it was also science shit even though he's not a tech/science guy and Nyelv was the only tech/science guy he was ever shown depending on. But I guess his butler minions also happen to be tech-savvy too for some reason, and we don't even know exactly how he became immune to hypnosis.
>my own problems with Gavv are more about pacing and some characters needing more depth or some things being resolved too fast
I have issues with those aspects too.
>not about who winning what fight or characters acting in character
Characters winning fights in an action show like this is just one of the most obvious ways to cap off story and character arcs in satisfactory way, it's not a coincidence that Hanto peaked in the Frappe debut where he finally got payback against Suga for all the misery he put him through. And like I said, my issue isn't that Bocca acted in character, it's the way they paced and executed his power plays which I dislike.

>>23441485
>neither had satisfactory conclusions for Hanto's character
I disagree. I thought him respecting the granute for being so selfless was a big character moment, the only fumble is that it isn't even mentioned that Glotta killed him and his reaction to that.
The fumble isn't with him though, it is with Glotta's arc being a bit rushed in general.
The zombie shit was whatever and Suga wasn't even the main point, it was to show that the plans for mass kidnappings are progressing.

I do think Hanto could stand to do a bit more in the show, but the payoffs for him connecting Shouma and his uncle still hasn't happened yet and he could still do other things. I do think it is a bit of a wasted opportunity that he never fought Glotta or Nylev solo but I still like what they have done with him overall and my problems are more with the fact that the show in general just seems to want to rush to resolve some things. It kind of reminds me of the end of OOO in a way. But I still think it is about as good as OOO despite having similar issues.
There are still a few cards they can play with Hanto, like each person having a message from Dente, his reaction to his mom's kidnapper dying, him dealing with Jiip (could even do the thing of helping him get over loss if he doesn't just kill him), etc.
I don't have unshakable confidence in the writing being 10/10 and solving everything amazingly but I do think it will be adequate enough to wrap up at some of these things in the last 3 episodes. It will be tight timing but I've seen it done before.

>>23441510
>I thought him respecting the granute for being so selfless was a big character moment, the only fumble is that it isn't even mentioned that Glotta killed him and his reaction to that.
I wasn't really talking about that arc there. I was referring specifically to the Zombie Suga arc and this last Nyelv arc. But yes, the arc with the Dog Granute ended pretty well except for the extremely unnecessary decision to have Glotta kill the guy at the end, which left a bad taste in my mouth.
>The zombie shit was whatever and Suga wasn't even the main point
That's kind of the problem, they brought Suga of all people back for this monster of the week-tier shit, they honestly shouldn't have even bothered. That arc also gave Hanto some spotlight what with him fighting off the hypnosis, but that whole sequence was pretty dumb.
>but the payoffs for him connecting Shouma and his uncle still hasn't happened yet and he could still do other things
At this point I think that's more for Shouma and his uncle to work out on their own, Hanto already did his part by revealing the candy shop owner is his mom's brother, Shouma will tell him the truth when he finally feels ready.

As for my opinion on the show as a whole, it could have easily avoided so many pitfalls and taken advantage of so many opportunities to end up truly great, but it simply didn't. It's a decent, solid show but I still feel disappointed because it squandered a lot of its potential. And I don't really think 3 episodes is nearly enough to salvage the endgame, or at least my opinion of it. Even so, it's the second best Reiwa show imo because it doesn't fumble the bag too badly, even if it's still one of those shows that didn't really manage to live up to its great start.

>>23441588
>Hanto already did his part by revealing the candy shop owner is his mom's brother
Possibly but it depends on various circumstances for the ending

>>23440344
His plan was so dumb..there weren't even that many Gochizos close to Bocca.
I thought he would call then back so they surrounded Bocca.
But as they were he would just blow them up all around and totally destroy the city, assuming they were any bigger than the explosion that killed Nyelv in The end.

>>23441510
>The fumble isn't with him though, it is with Glotta's arc being a bit rushed in general
The problem is that it impacts that specific 2-parter much more than it does Glotta's arc. To Glotta he was just some rando traitor she killed while doing some work to take her mind off her current family issues, but Hanto actually knew the guy's story and what he meant to that family, it was his personal sacrifice to let him live but the positive impact that choice had on others was immediately ruined by that crazy bitch and it's unlikely anyone involved will ever know the truth since Glotta died without ever mentioning what she did.

>endgame arc should have taken place in Granute world
>instead rushed all the greenscreen budget into one episode that accomplished nothing in the long-run
>now the final battle(s) will likely take place in the human world, on a hill or some anticlimactic toku filming location

Lemme guess: THAT warehouse.

>>23444512
I really think it will all end in that open field. Even if Bocca isn't the final boss, any battle between Gavv and Lango (assuming Lango even survives, we can't see him in the set pictures with Red Gavv) is probably happening right there too to explain Gavv being weakened during it from the previous battle.

>>23444561
Goddammit. One of Gavv's earlier highlights was the creative use of set elements in fight scenes, particularly the debut first fight in the lot, the alleyway battle against Lango's agents, and even the library fight during Frappe's debut. To have the finale battles in an OPEN field is like a wet fart.

>>23444826
They could always do the old trick of throwing someone off-screen and jump cutting to an entirely different place.

Really didn't like how Nyelv's death basically boiled down to:
>I am a genius!
>OH NO-

>>23444826
>Mahjong Afro
???

Yet fucking again Komura Jack Sparrow runs to the end because she has no fucking idea how to pace her shows.

>>23447197
aikotoba wa
afuro to mah jong

I started watching my first Kamen Rider series with some frens irl. I'm starting with Build, and it's so good. I can see why you guys love it. We finished episode 10 and I can't wait to continue

>BEST MATCH ! YEAH !
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