Thread 23457795

Is Martian Successor Nadesisco any good? I ask because I'm a bit wary because I heard it's a parody and deconstruction, two things that I utterly despise

>>23457795 (OP)
You wouldn't get it.

If only you could watch the show and find out OP. Or read any of the other bait threads about it. Or read any reviews. Or do anything for your self. What a worthless human being you are. I do not pity you. I will not think about you ever again.

It insists upon itself

>>23457795 (OP)
>I'm a bit wary because I heard it's a parody and deconstruction, two things that I utterly despise
Then don't watch it, moron

>>23457795 (OP)
Deconstruction means when people like something from a genre they disrespect, which isnt the case with Nadesico.

>>23457795 (OP)
It is a deconstruction, but it is highly respectful and appreciative of its source material as opposed to being cynical and self-depreciating.

>>23457808
I don't know where I can liveblog about the show without getting banned.

>>23457795 (OP)
It's a great comedy show with lots of cute girls, great mecha action and some good emotional moments.

You shouldn't be on /m/ if you haven't seen it.

Youtube upload of the sub:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrrh84y760v_ZULRtBcK6vWvqeXgUibDi

>>23457795 (OP)
One word:
Pantyhosed legs
Also, the gloomy bitch was the best aside from Ruri

Why does every girl want the MC when they barely know him

I think Nadesico really captures the 2000's vibe its sometimes goofy sometimes serious, and the ambiance its like Balamb garden but in space, I like it a lot but I cant explain why precisely.
Same with the movie even though you need to play the saturn game to fully get it and I didnt play it

>>23457795 (OP)
sorta MASH?
wacky funny also war is hell

Why does the show's tone change every half second

8 episodes in. When does the show get good and why is there so little music

>>23458298
god I love pantyhose

>>23458342
Really, it's part of the show's appeal. If it's something that bothers you, you're probably just going to hate it.

>>23458309
>I think Nadesico really captures the 2000's vibe
It's from 1996

>>23459228
It was ahead of its time.

>>23459228
And Prince of Darkness was 1998, the absolute SOVL era until around 2004 or so

>>23457795 (OP)
If you're not filtered by the first episode you'll probably like it ok.

>>23457795 (OP)
You are right to despise those things OP, but Nadesico is just good. I don't think anything made before the 2000s can really be ironypoisoned desu

>>23458302
He cooks

>>23459879
It is exactly ironypoisoned, like MGS, insomuch that the author's didn't have the balls to take themselves seriously on either comedy or drama - neither are bad, but they become cognitive dissonance together when the writers are man children. The "wisdoms" passed around in the show are exactly what'd you expect from someone not moving past becoming bitter and calloused as a kid - that's the limit of what their profoundness would be.

>>23460038
>It is exactly ironypoisoned,
You don't even know what those words mean.

>>23460038
MGS' problem is that it takes it's insane retarded plot way too seriously and Kojima thinks it's profound

>>23459352
There is nothing SOVL or otherwise about Prince of Darkness.

Its nice, but your mileage may vary on the ending and Prince of Darkness

>>23459228
At the time it was common for anime to take more years to be imported to the West. ADV's release wasn't until the early 2000s.
Also probably referring to a vibe lasted from the mid 90s through the mid 2000s that more or less overlaps with the era where visual novels were at their most popular.

>>23460507
>implying

>>23460541
>only SOVL is when it remembers the original series

You're proving his point. Prince of Darkness is the Nadesico equivalent to Other M

>>23460550
You fags cant even enjoy a thing for what it is

>dude the vibes
>dude the SOVL

>>23460586
I dare you to watch Pocket Full Of Rainbows.

>>23458302
Martian super charisma

>>23457795 (OP)

Ruby's not in it. So No.

>>23457890
True, I once saw someone say
>Evangelion is a deconstruction of Mecha, because unlike earlier shows it focuses on characters and shows the pilots psyche. It also has an actual thought out plotline in a believable world.

>>23460507
>and they lived happily ever after
>haha jk actually 5 minutes after the series the MC and his waifu got kidnapped and he had his body irreparably fucked up which made him hateful of everything and she's still getting endlessly raped as we speak
What is this, Sliders?

>>23460586
>for what it is

>>>/trash/>?

9 episodes in.
Can the cast please stop acting like a Greek chorus? This is what we have bridge bunnies for, not the actual mecha pilots.

>>23462232
oh god this creatures back

I don't want to use this thread to blog about watching Nadesico. This board is just too fucking slow. Where can I go instead?

>>23467069
back

>>23467069
Have you considered talking to your friends about it?

>>23467129
I don't have friends.

You're all fucking useless. I had to keep watching the show to start liking it. I fucking hate having to do that.
Now I'm 12 episodes in.

>>23467565
I never started liking it, so that's on you
I agree with most of the cast that Akito and Gai are loser faggots that need to grow up
But it's also fucking stupid for the show to have that as an idea it's presenting to begin with
Meta shows are cancer

>>23460045
The likes of you just wouldn't understand anything more complicated. :)

Up to episode 17 now.

Okay, so there really was no reason for Gai getting shot? Just a bunch of officers abandoning ship when Nadesico went rogue and Munetake killing a witness out of paranoia?
Was Gai's seiyuu really expensive or something? No, that can't be it, because apparently every single SRW with Nadesico has Gai as a playable unit who never dies.

>>23470967
The point was just that he was this heroic over the top persona wanting an heroic death in combat, after initially being presented as just an idiot, actually is also shown as a good pilot in episode 3, so he could become famous like he dreamed, but "reality" isn't like that and he's just randomly shot and killed due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is meant to contrast with "Joe's" heroic death in Gekiganger they kept talking about early in the show before Gai's own death.

>>23470973
Except the rest of the show isn't anywhere near that kind of dark. Whenever it's not a satirical romcom riffing on Tenchi Muyo Macross, it's making jokes about Space Battleship Yamato, hiring the Minky Momo guy to make wacky comedy episodes, or using Mazingetter V as a Greek chorus to proceedings.

>>23470973
Ace-type pilots getting taking out pathetically while out in the world/not in their mechs and the subsequent fallout is one of those things I tell myself I'd like to see more in but if it ever actually happened would probably piss me off.
Maybe I'm not watching the right things but I can only recall it happening twice - Nadesico here but his character was designed to be everything I hate about older mech shows where the power of yelling makes you stronger so he was a good riddance, and IBO where I indeed gave no shits about the character and I still got pissed that it happened

>>23471027
>IBO where I indeed gave no shits about the character and I still got pissed that it happened
Oof. Though I remember the ToonamiERA watchthrough of IBO season 2 actually really really liked when Lafter got killed off.

>>23471027
>everything I hate about older mech shows where the power of yelling makes you stronger
That never stopped. It's just now they're occasionally dispersed by Heero clones who draw their power from dispassionate duty.

Watching episode 18. Ruri's backstory feels really familiar. Though I couldn't place where I'd heard it before.

>>23471103
Yin from Darker than Black maybe?

Let's Gekiga In!

Anyone read the manga?

>>23470986
>Except the rest of the show isn't anywhere near that kind of dark
it is though, between Akatsuki tormenting Akito, Uribitake casually trying to start an affair Hikaru, Tsukumo getting killed, etc
Nadesico is tonally all over the place

>>23457795 (OP)
This was a weird one. I watched it 15-20 years ago and at some point it became the posterchild of the extremely short list of shows I know I watched and yet had zero recollection of, including whether I even liked it or not. Then I rewatched it a few years back and it became one of my all time favorites

>>23457795 (OP)
>>23458298
Why do the Japanese want to be white rich people from the 80's like they were on Dynasty or something?

>>23458340
Yes Dorkly...but MASH had dignity. MSN lacks that.

>>23463693
No, much like Xenogears. Its shit.

>>23471927
So...Nadesico takes place in the Silent Mobius universe?

>>23467161
I can see why >>23467565

>>23473867
I'm sorry.

>>23457795 (OP)
The movie is better.

Gekigan Cutter is supposed to be a Devilman reference, right?

>>23474308
2 late kys

>>23478205
At being >>>/trash/

What's the Japanese term that's been translated as "Jovian"? Because that's sure as hell not what the sub is saying.

>>23459228
No shit Sherlock.
He didn't say it was from the 2000s.

>>23480801
Don't bump the thread if you have nothing to add

My beautiful wife, Tio Plato

Finished the show. I'm not really sure what the win condition was beyond "get the fuck outta dodge", but then I guess this ending was trying to sow the seeds for a longer franchise and renewal.
I did like the part where they suggest an anime with no real message or theme beyond "destroy the bays guys using hot-blooded force" will lead to braindead jingoism, though.

It's like parody of mecha series and I think that white haired loli chick dethroned Asuka and Rei in the top anime girls of that year when this series came out.
Avoid the movie at all costs, it's fucking horrible, ruined so many characters, and was the reason people's interest in the series died. I think they were planning on making a trilogy too.

>>23482631
Don't listen to this guy.
Movie's good, tone's just like the series, a lot of good moments in it. It's a bummer they didn't get to continue things after, but it's a blast and a half.

>>23482631
>I think they were planning on making a trilogy too.
Yeah, apparently. And there was a video game tie-in that was supposed to be a prequel to the films, but they botched its release and it came out afterwards. It's remarkable how everything to do with Nadesico after the original TV series is a series of comical fuck-ups that doomed the entire series to obscurity within five years. It's almost impressive.

Watching the movie, halfway through.
>Yurika gets petrified and trapped in the Chulip CPU
>Akito goes edgy and turns into a mysterious rival in all-black who doesn't talk to anyone
>Some random 10 year old kid is now trying to be Ruri's boyfriend
I can see why people hate this movie.

Finished.
Wow that was fucking dumb.

>>23471927
>As Seen on CARTOON NETWORK

>>23483534
Less so than stopping halfway through to post about it.
>>23482648
Yeah, I never understood how people thought it was incredibly far from the show. It's the same shit except Akito's a moody teen (with admittedly more reason for that than most teens). Its biggest issue is that it's clearly something like half a story.

>>23485334
My stream was loading. Fuck am I supposed to do, keep staring at the loading cycle?

And don't you fucking respond with "LOL STREAMING".

>>23485169
They aired two episodes for Toonami's Giant Robot Week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbFDBrai2As

>>23487287
>My stream
>>23487434
Toonami and its consequences....

>>23480725
Mokusei is Jupiter in Japanese. Anything having to do with Jupiter involves Moku or Mokusei. Pre-reveal, everyone believes that they were ETs instead of exiled uyoku dantai groups from the moon and called them the Jovian Lizards, translated directly from "Mokusei Tokage".

>>23489084
Thanks. What's the name of the propaganda villains in Natural Lychee? It got translated as "Jovan".

Did anyone find out what does "you get to burning" mean?

>>23489307
Mokuda, I think.

>>23489925
Something, something venereal disease from swine.

>>23460507
Prince of Darkness was alright. I don't get how anyone thinks its some drastic change in tone when the series was already like 75% serious 25% comedy by the end and the ending itself left you with a very uncertain future after the Nadescio basically made themselves the enemy of both sides. Like yeah the war ended cause they launched the goal of the war into space, but what the hell happens next? I think overall PoD gives a more complete conclusion.

>>23480801
>>I think Nadesico really captures the 2000's vibe
>He didn't say it was from the 2000s!!!!!

Jackass

>>23457795 (OP)
It wanted to be a lite hentai, but had to fish hook that mecha decon. vibe.

>>23491043
Thanks again.

One last ask: what's the Japanese term for Mars?

>>23498819
Mars is Kasei/火星 (Fire Star).

>>23498819
In their language? Kasei. In their, and to a degree our larger history, home 2 of 4.

>>23498891
>>23498893
Okay. So "Vagan/Vaigan" was a term Gundam AGE pulled from nowhere?

>>23500156
No, just their over fascination with pussy.

>>23478946
Correct.

>>23458292
>terrible sub translation
why the fuck most english subs are terrible?
fuck that shit im going to watch it dubbed en españoldeidadwe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0aSQbiVF3M&t=5s&ab_channel=RetroAnimeSmash

Alright I started watching it.
The first episode was great.
But I hated the second episode. All the "jokes" were not funny, and some of them were so bad I felt offended.
Is the entire show like this?

>>23508815
No, the whole show is great and all of the jokes are funny.

>>23508815
that was the worst directed episode
its way more interesting to watch it with the international dubs expect english

>>23457795 (OP)
Nadesico goes in the middle

>>23470986
>Except the rest of the show isn't anywhere near that kind of dark
wait for it

>>23500156
Vaigan is an anagram of vagina
The heroine of part 1 is named Urine and the captain of part 3 is named Anus

The Gundam Age writer is the same guy who did Yokai Watch, where there's an entire episode about the main character huffing the farts of a girl he likes

It's just his thing

>>23485334
>it's the same as the show except it's nothing like it

>>23508815
if you didn't laugh at Cross Crash or basically everything Gekigangar related you do not belong here

>>23513611
>you do not belong here
Eject me.

I'd watch gekigangar 3 if it was a proper show. What's the closest thing that can be a substitute?

>>23513611
>>23513621
I picked up Nadesico because Gekiganger 3's opening song and concept was too exciting, and I was not disappointed. I know it heavily homages/draws from Toei's Getter Robo, which I'm hoping to start soon. Oh man, even if you simply like people who'd like Gekiganger, you're already rewarded by watching the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09xmOcVBCdM

>>23508753
This is /m/, not /dbs/.

>>23513621
Gekigangar is Getter Robo with Mazinger attacks, but from what we see of the plot it's a lot like the Nagahama robos

>>23513828
I'd watch Dougram in Spanish desu

>>23518501
Dougram would hit way too close to home for both Mexico or Spain to ever do a dub.

>>23519271
I honestly kept mentally calling Dougram an anime version of the Mexican Revolution. I wonder if there's revolutions that the show is closer to.

>>23519271
Congratulations on figuring out the obvious gumshoe

>>23527008
Don't disingenuously bump the thread.

>>23513828
There's lots of great spanish /m/ dubs.

>>23527130
disingenuously suck my dick ya hall monitor bitch

>>23457795 (OP)
This show peaked super early with the funeral episode. Genuinely amazing.
I don't think they had enough new ideas to fill 26 episodes or whatever it is. I'm not surprised the movies flopped. Still, I remember it fondly. The Tulip mecha carriers with warp gates inside opening like a flower was an awesome visual display as well.

>>23531823
The Movie had basically nothing in common with the series whatsoever

>>23532775
There's a video game never released outside of japan in-between the two.

>>23532945
And another that took place after it. I think this girl was the main villain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_uATQPkO0