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Instead of combat how good would mobile suits be at construction?
Anonymous No.23467447 [Report] >>23467572 >>23594330
Depends on what you want built. IIRC, weren't mobile suits evolved from vehicles built specifically for building space colonies?
Anonymous No.23467457 [Report] >>23495144 >>23537817
>>23467415 (OP)
In gravity, not really. Cranes, Forklifts, and Lulls do the job you'd need an MS to do pretty well. In space I could see them being used as they give the worker more protection vs a normal spacesuit. They'd be doing the same jobs your heavy equipment is doing on a planet's surface.

t. Construction Worker
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>>23467447
UC ones at least were originally used for construction, yeah
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>>23467415 (OP)
They'd be shit which is why mobile suits as a concept just don't work.

>2 arms 2 legs
If arms and legs are SOOOOO good for zero-g construction, why not just build a giant mechanical centipede with 10 arms and 10 legs?

>Piloted by one person
This means you can only do one thing at a time, and that thing is imitating a human's range of motion with giant pieces of steel, glass, etc. You need 2 mobile suits to do the job of two people, instead of having one purpose-made ship to do the same job as 20 people.

>humanoid shape
Means you can't have a mobile suit do the job of a crane, a bulldozer, a shovel, a compacter, a cement truck, a skyscraper lift... You force your construction crews to work as if they are humans in space suits. It's stupid and inefficient.
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>>23467415 (OP)
Fantastic, that's half the reason they're everywhere.
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>>23468241
>giant mechanical centipede with 10 arms and 10 legs
I don't think the solution to something being good at something is to slap a dozen more onto it every time. Tracks are good. We don't need every backhoe to be twelve tracked segments chained together.
>having one purpose-made ship to do the same job as 20 people
That sounds more like a factory than a vehicle. What vehicles do we use that can do twenty different jobs in a row?
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>>23468241
>If arms and legs are SOOOOO good for zero-g construction, why not just build a giant mechanical centipede with 10 arms and 10 legs?
Yes? Sort of?
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I can see a 18 meter tall bipedal machine being helpful for like...holding a building from collapsing, or in rescue efforts like picking up rubble and looking for survivals, maybe even stuff like rescuing people from dangerous waters
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>>23468241
>why not just build a giant mechanical centipede with 10 arms and 10 legs?

baka
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>>23468241
Riveting original insight 10/10.
Anonymous No.23479237 [Report] >>23479374 >>23537824 >>23559227
>>23468241
>>humanoid shape
>Means you can't have a mobile suit do the job of a crane, a bulldozer, a shovel, a compacter, a cement truck, a skyscraper lift...

explain this
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>>23479237
Atheists will see this and say "my ancestor"
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>>23467415 (OP)
I think the key thing MS would have over other construction vehicles is modularity, instead of a whole new vehicle you just need whatever specialised tool you're using with a handle the MS can hold. humanoid form would still probably go pretty quickly, something like the oggo would end up being the norm.
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org No.23486936 [Report]
>>23467415 (OP)
within the Universal Century setting they're pretty great and were basically for exactly that
irl the big issue is construction infrastructure is already made with specific weight tolerances and clearances and stuff in mind, so there's not an easy way to work a 30' robot into existing logistics
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>>23467572
That was just the excuse to develop them.
Anonymous No.23490794 [Report] >>23492145
There's a point, we've only ever really seen newtypes used in the context of combat pilot. They'd be great in other sectors, imagine how useful funnels with construction equipment would be.
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>>23490794
you can anticipate how that brick intends to fall on the foreman's head
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>>23467415 (OP)
Pretty good. Think of an MS as a two armed Excavator.
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>>23468241
anon
buy some kids' building blocks
now try to do all the jobs you've mentioned with them
you might need some attachments, run to the kitchen and grab a spatula to do the bulldozer job, but you can do anything
mecha is a nearly universal construction tool
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>>23467457
yeah. one'd prefer introduction of power armor, if anything. Victory era size MS could've been useful for very basic heavy precision work in open areas though. and some mobile workers were exactly that small size or smaller, see: Balls, the thing Judau & co used
t. ex-construction worker
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so I'm just going to piggy back off this thread and ask if anyone saw that anime (miru) made by the heavy machinery company and how it was
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>>23467415 (OP)
I would rob so many banks if I had a consturction ms
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>>23467457
As a construction worker tell me you wouldn't prefer "if only I had bigger hands for this bigger box"
Forklift, bulldozer, jackhammering heads
An MS would just be scaling up what a person can do, which is Important for grander projects
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>>23479237
At least there could be a historical basis
For this
>Be militarily sanctioned nation
>Desire building MS for military use
>Interchange the torsos on modular systems so you have a fuxkton of readily convertible parts distributed while staying within sanctions
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no barga?
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>>23467415 (OP)
very good at compacting soil?
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>>23558281
Is there more to that? The text feels like the second half of a conversation
Anonymous No.23559227 [Report] >>23561643
>>23479237
That's not a humanoid shape. They made this Zaku into a quadruple amputee, stuck treads on the bottom, and attached a shovel to its shoulders with a bulldozer's arms.
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I'll never stop being mad
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>>23559227
he's just like me fr
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https://youtu.be/Ee-fGCIe9Qg
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https://youtu.be/RrRHxjadAhk
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>>23467415 (OP)
It would be no good. Why make a complicated robot that replicate the human form when you can give it a form fitting of its function.
This is why we have vacuum robot and not humanoid robots that use vacuum cleaners.
Anonymous No.23585334 [Report] >>23590611
>>23467415 (OP)
What would happen if they added psycho frame to construction mobile suits for Newtype workers?
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>>23467415 (OP)
They're used in construction all the time in different shows. IIRC one scene in G-Witch has students learning how to use giant industrial saws with their training MS.
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>>23585334
Funnels with drills on them.
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>>23467447
yes
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