Thread 23478829

AMAIM was awesome and I'm tired of pretending it somehow wasn't.

>>23478850
Not seeing anything drool related in that post. Talk about Kyoukai Senki instead.

I ain't ever watching that but the kits are cool and they're always cheap to import because Bandai keeps flooding japanese stores with them.

I fucking love jo hound

too bad about the commercials sucking though

>>23478829 (OP)
It was, but sadly, I think most people wanted another Gundam show. Most of the complaints I saw were about the political aspects of the show, trying to judge it like a drama, which is pants-on-head retarded as AMAIM was very much an action series first and foremost.

And as for those aspects, it could've done much, MUCH worse. I've seen plenty of shows that use political drama as a core theme fumble it harder than AMAIM did using it as a narrative vehicle. Most of the occupiers were shown as corrupt and imperialistic, but they never devolved into evil 2d caricatures, barring that one governor abusing his power, which would've been a very easy trap to fall into.

I'll give any modern mecha show points for refraining from relying on CGI as a crutch, too.

Plus, Ghost goes hard af and won over the inner 13yr old of my heart.

>>23478829 (OP)
>I'm tired of pretending
holy shit the joker movie was six fucking years ago, how are people still saying this shit

No, it was a bad show.

>>23479416
See >>23478850

>>23479160
My complaint with the politics is just that they aren't really interesting at all. Only the Americans get a good examination of why they're occupying Japan in the first place and why they're still there, and they end up being the primary antagonist so I can understand that. The other three superpowers forming an alliance just to fuck over the Americans is a cool idea but after that and the indpendent area is established the political situation is just done more or less. I think Sunrise was too ambitious and wanted to make it the start of a new universe, so if there was more continuation I would imagine things would be fleshed out more as more resistance to the occupation pops up in Japan. But now we're basically stuck with a setting that isn't going to get an end point anymore.

It also doesn't help that only America and Russia get actually interesting characters that stick around. Watching anime John Arbuckle almost go totally insane because of the Ghost's AI was cool and the Russian commander was a pretty cool guy, but the Chinese and Australians don't get anyone but glorified mooks and villains of the week. But honestly I think the biggest issue is that the main cast is a fucking charisma vacuum, not even giving the MC a PTSD edgelord arc was enough to make me care for him. The mascot AI's were funny but not really memorable. None of the supporting cast for the rebels are interesting either. I don't hate them or anything but I cannot be fucked to remember their names.

>>23479464
I liked the cast, so I can't relate, which is a shame since the strength of the characters in one's eyes is very important for building continued investment while also being one of the most subjective elements in any storytelling medium. They were charismatic enough that I wanted to root for them, or at least didn't mind the time the camera spent on them. I did find the AIs kind of off-putting at first, though, but I gradually warmed up enough to them that their appearances didn't bring scenes down for me. I can't really say I ever found them or anybody in the show funny, but they did eventually stop standing out as chibi mascots for product placement to me.

>Watching anime John Arbuckle almost go totally insane because of the Ghost's AI was cool
I actually preferred season 1's Ghost, where he was more like an enigmatic force of nature who just came and went like his namesake while fucking shit up. Peeling back that curtain didn't make it less cool. It didn't reveal anything we couldn't already intuit, but it certainly didn't have the same kind of charm.

>>23478829 (OP)
It was boring as fuck, and the animation sucked 90% of the time.

It had great OPs and EDs though and some of the designs were cool.

It probably would've been better as a Gundam series. Maybe they would've given it more resources and time to cook.

>>23478829 (OP)
I wouldn't call it awesome but it definitely feels overheated at least to my point of view.

Bandai truly needed to made its mind about what was the target audience for this show tbf.

>>23478829 (OP)
So, Kyoukai Senki is not exactly a masterpiece, but it has a number of positive features compared to, suddenly, Code Geass:

- Japan is divided between several factions that actively oppose each other not only on the battlefield, but also in diplomacy and espionage (I could never understand why the EU, which borders Area 11, never did anything with the new British territories, effectively allowing their ports to be cut off from the Pacific Ocean?)

- The Japanese have a more competent and quite self-sufficient resistance movement, which in addition to military actions also helps refugees and builds relationships with individual occupation forces against other invaders (the JLF achieved NOTHING before its inglorious defeat, and the activities of the other disparate rebel groups did not cause much harm to the British)

- The cast is more personally woven into the Japanese resistance, for example, Gashin has a rebel father and a collaborator brother, and Shion is associated with traditional pottery, but Cullen had only words and a political position, but nothing Japanese in particular

- the mecha is too big, but more realistic and does not have a large technical gap between the "generations" and "designs" of different factions (if up to the 5th generation the British knights are excellent representatives of "real mecha", then the 6th and subsequent ones are complete super-robot crap), and the appearance of laser guns in the Yankee arsenal, for example, did not irreversibly change the balance of battles in favor of one side

- an interesting idea of combining manned AMAIMs and drones, as well as some reasonable differences in the combat use of mechanisms

1/2

>>23484055

As a result, a very good and interesting mecha, which was able to stand apart from its spiritual predecessor and become a completely independent thing with its own ideas in the plot. Not to mention that the life of the Japanese under occupation is shown in a very diverse and ambiguous way - for example, a mixed marriage between a Japanese woman and a Russian was an unexpected but pleasant moment (but the Chinese were portrayed as villains-slave traders, at first...) The finale was almost brilliant, when the group of main characters showed themselves to be "realists" enough to cooperate with recent opponents to recreate Little Japan here and now, instead of a maximalist revolution and war with everyone. A curious and bold decision.

Even the sequel to the anime - Kyokkou no Souki / Demon in Steel Armor - about a group of Japanese resistance on remote islands fighting against the Oceanians and Americans, turned out to be quite solid despite its seemingly modest scale... But PTSD and mutual assistance are shown well, as well as a kind of combat obsession and bitterness even in local battles.

In short, an excellent mecha anime! More of these.

2/2

I had no interest in the show itself but I didn't think the mechanical design was all that bad. I kind of like how angular they are.

>>23484055
It's literally a bad version of Geass.

>>23484122
Geass is a bad version of Geass.

>it does a lot of things better than Code Geass
>bunch of things that have nothing to do with plot or characters or how entertaining a show is

>>23484424
That's a weird way of spelling Rumble Garandoll, anon.

>>23478829 (OP)
*This is an image
Thanks, wouldn't have guessed.

>>23484122
The second season and other shitty sequels made Geass the worst version of itself.

As for AMAIM Warrior itself, of the three main characters, I liked Tezuka the most because he is the most "military" or something. He constantly trains and tunes his mech + is much more actively involved in the resistance. In addition, a sniper or heavily armed unit is cool.

Of the secondary characters, I was most impressed by Gashin's brother, because he was able to somewhat realize his vision of a possible solution in the form of autonomy.

Of the occupation forces, the Eurasians showed themselves the best due to their varied military and political tactics, the Australians came in second place, since their idea of a surprise attack on a Chinese port under the cover of a cargo ship was good.

I liked their mechs the most, the Joe-Hounds, in second place, the Chinese Nurena models (additional plus for the appearance of laser cannons in their piloted versions).

The Chinese have better uniform design - yes, it's not practical at all, but it's very stylish.

>>23492067
>he doesn't understand wasei eigo

>>23492165
The fact that the thing on the left of the weapon spread is actually a water propulsion jet and not a huge hammer annoys me to no end

>>23492189
We don't always get what we want.

>>23491602
Shut the fuck up, Duel.

>>23499028
Stop bumping this shit drool.

Was Frost/Frozen Flower ever translated or not? If the latter is anyone interested in translating it? Because if not and someone has a DDL I might take a crack.

>>23499192
No one cares about your imaginary friend, duelrager

>>23499192
Whom?

>>23499216
Not translated yet.

>>23505776
Alright, if anyone has a DDL I can attempt a text translation. No idea how to upload onto torrents so someone else will need to do that.

>>23507395
Based on what we know about Amaim: Frozen Flower from: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10904126

--The [Borderline Warrior Frost Flower], which was serialized for one year from the September 2021 issue to the August 2022 issue of the monthly Hobby Japan as an official Gaiden of the anime [Borderline Warrior], has already been published as a book.
――In addition to all 12 episodes recorded in this magazine, one episode newly written by Mr. Kazuho Hyodo, who was in charge of the scenario, will be recorded.
--All the mechanical setting images that are useful for model making are included, including those not included in this magazine.
――Furthermore, Yasutaka Tanaka made the main character [KM-01 Byakuchi] based on FULL MECHANICS 1/48 Maileskenbu as an example of making this book.

So 13 chapters and nobody can find the book online.

>>23492165
My Favorite Franchise can do that to!