Thread 23495880

Thoughts? Seems like Armored Core 6 at home.
if anyone got the patreon playtest, could do a nice thing

>>23495880 (OP)
the mecha designs and animations are way too human
this is a design consequence of AC6's easy to learn, lacking in driving pleasure gameplay philosophy

>>23495919
I wonder why the humanoid robot with humanoid limbs has human-like animations

>>23495940
because the animator is a hack

>>23495940
because he secretly wants to make a kamen rider game

>>23495919
I agree with the light designs, but Gundams literally move like humans. The RX-78-2 literally does backflips in the air against some gouf grunts a few episodes after the Ramba Ral fight

>>23495955
so here's the thing I do actually really want a mecha game without shit like the fucking ground permaboosting and instead the mechs are super acrobatic ninjas like evangelion but it's still a super smooth high mobility game, but I know that will never happen because unironically AC6 did in fact poison the well and make every mech an armored core/gundam from now on
>>23495967
gundam has tons of "actual human" animations
I have no idea what that guy was on about beyond ranting about AC6 being casualized or something

>>23495955
Wouldn't it be melee focused instead of the thousandth "make the mecha game a TPS" if that were the case?

>>23495970
play an action game you fucking retard

>>23495975
most mecha games are action games and customizing a robot is cool

>>23495967
it also combines with vehicle parts and has partial flight like some helicopters (really like heavier birds)
>>23495970
>>23495973
the key is to make the humanlike actions feel more like driving/piloting techniques rather than something you can directly access
the focus must be on the experience of piloting as well as action and customization

anyone got the playtest they post on the patreon?

>>23495973
what are you making if your mecha game with weapons isn't a TPS?

>>23495919
Diversity is the spice of life.

>>23496028
A beat 'em up or a hack and slash, obviously.

>>23496028
First person cockpit view melee mecha sounds kinda fun to be honest.

>>23496028
An rpg hybrid type game could work.

>>23496085
>diversity
it is the most shameless ac6 clone on the market

>>23495919
shut the fuck up and go play your MechWarrior (that neutered the tabletop meks' acrobatics lmfao)

>>23496483
AC6 was too KEKED to even try acrobatics. You're a smoothbrain with zero cognitive resolution

>>23496204
I really want more cockpit view mecha games. TItanfall is super fun and you could totally make an armored core like game in first person if you gave it to a competent dev team

also holy shit this might be the most dogshit webm I have ever made

>>23495880 (OP)
>the mech actually RUNS instead of just gliding on the ground
oh my fucking god FINALLY

>>23496556
Something I want to see more of in cockpit view games is the human element. I want to see switches flicked, gears shifting, buttons being punched! Surely adding a little of this shouldn't be too big an issue.

This is going to make a million muh grounded stompy realistic weighty homos cry out in pain, and it's good because it also looks fun.

Mecha games can and should run the full breadth of mecha media and I'm not gonna sit here and be lectured as to why it "doesn't count" by people who've never watched an anime.

>>23496204
>>23496556
The problem with many first person modes in mecha games is that they're not designed for it primarily. Pretty frequently it's just a lower FOV version, with console and bits over your screen, and you surrender all peripheral vision when they really should have side cameras. I like the way Xol is doing it, with your arms and stuff coming up past the screen. Just looks nice.

>>23496764
I also played Xol and I Like what it's doing, despite the roughness of everything else

I think the most basic answer is that every dev that tried making a mecha game that let you play in first person, wasn't actually making a competent shooter.

>>23496764
This is going to make a million fucking retards mad because its going to do really well and influence even more mecha devs to stop pandering to slowfags as everyone realizes "wait these are basically big humans, we can just make a good action game instead of some abhorrent dogshit"

>>23496556
holy fuck i had no idea hammer got a first person mode
i hate being on mac so goddamn much

>>23498199
I actually recorded that dogshit gameplay on linux, on a dying CPU. Don't know if mac can emulate windows apps but the game was running fine, just the recording came out wrong

>>23496764
>>23498059
It's gonna sell 10 copies at most, don't be delusional.

>>23498428
yeah man I'm sure this game that looks extremely well made and well animated inspired by an industry giant in an *extremely* barren genre/theme is not going to do well

>>23498428
Out of all the post-AC6 indie mecha coming out, this probably looks the most polished. It's at least not a strictly direct clone. I think it'll do pretty well if nothing gets cocked up.

>>23498433
>this game that looks extremely well made and well animated
Is the game here in the room with us?

>>23498436
there's another one that is also clearly inspired by AC6 except its also inspired by valkyria chronicles. Webm related.

>>23498439
my brother in fucking christ even mecha games with budget look like THIS
https://youtu.be/GEhR6Z8fIHc&t=41
The video I posted on the OP looks great. The mechs are fluid and have distinct differences based on weight. Empty your heart of disdain for one fucking second and realize effort where its due

>>23498452
that one is sorta okay
the mecha designs don't fit in at a glance but the grunts they're planning have some neat tank-isms

>>23498452
>my brother in fucking christ
Stopped reading right there, go back to twitter shill.

>23498643
I spit on you, atheist scum.

>using the lord's name in vain
>hurr ur atheist
Go back predditor.

>>23498643
>You can't say the no-no word!
Fuck off

>>23498643
if you don't give a shit, then yeah man shut the fuck up and fuck off

oh look acrobatics like AC5 which no one has stolen yet for some reason

>>23498688
>no one has stolen yet for some reason
ackshually

>>23498715
oh I've played that one but oh my god its so fucking slow and boring

>>23498719
yeah it's kinda floaty, could really use something like AC gen 3's overboost to give the movement more sauce

>>23495880 (OP)
>>23495970
I hate when mechas are giant robot ninjas that bounce all over the place doing acrobatics instead of moving "realistically" with huge boosters gliding it like a rick dom or armored core

>>23498784
small indie dev studio asset flip, please understand

>>23498784
why are you going to make a humanoid robot and then make it glide around like a hover tank

what are those legs and arms and torso for?

if you're going to use a humanoid body, then use it's advantages in combat too.

>>23498898
nta but it's mostly just an animation problem. Good wheel/hoverleg designs should sway into their motions, and suddenly it makes sense why that might help them move better than a hovercar.

>>23498926
there hasn't been a single gundam game that actually animated anywhere near decently like that, and if you want armored core you can just go play armored core
like, you're getting humanoid limbs and barely using them for anything except swaying.

I absolutely want a mecha game where the mechs are animated like heavy superhumans on crack. That looks cool as fuck

>>23498688
I really, really don't like how it does a spin every jump for no reason. Especially because it spins in the same direction regardless of what direction you jump, it should at least change the spin direction.

>>23499066
That's cause animation is hard and it's easier to just flicker the thrusters and have them slide about. Even so, votoms ps2 does.

>>23495880 (OP)
it feels more power armor scaled to mech size. designs are really boring too

>>23499066
>there hasn't been a single gundam game that actually animated anywhere near decently like that
Literally every Gundam vs game ever made retard

>>23495919
>>23499128
>the mecha look too human!
Seriously.

>>23498675
>>23498688
Is it a mecha game or power armor game like new DxM?

>>23495919
The point of humanoid mecha design is too do human stuff.

>>23499490
mecha game. look at the roads. its just that the scenery is very huge and the mechs aren't very big

>>23499999
maybe one of the characters is a model trains autist

I'm glad people have started to make mecha games based on a good franchise/game (armored core 6) instead of dogshit (Into the Breach/mechwarrior)

>>23499066
>>23499095
Actually now that I'm playing it, DxM2 has amazing animations for ground sliding. You really lean in on long turns and spin on short turns. I really, really hope some people take direct inspiration from this, the animations are perfect for more flexible mechs on the ground.

>>23495880 (OP)
It's a poor clone of Daemon x Machina.

>>23499999
Wishlisted, hope it's not too short and they release the full game and not some stuck in forever EA.

>>23495970
I kinda don't like how slow your AC is when you are not boosting. It would have been cool to see it run.

>>23496556
Feels like people should try to remake High Macs simulator but with melee combat.

Does this game even still work on newer systems?

https://youtu.be/-uodW4jC6pg

>>23505982
play oldgen
and by oldgen i mean before 4th gen
4th gen and onwards got rid of leg speeds

>>23507123
unless you're using hover legs, hover quads or treads, you should be bunny hopping 24/7 since AC1 to fight even remotely well. Every fucking mecha game has the permaboosting brainrot because people have this derangement syndrome where they can't imagine the mechs moving like a person despite that being the entire point.

>>23512390
Blame Gundam for pioneering the concept and Votoms for popularizing it.

>>23498059
You're saying this as if devs forcing muh MechWarrior grit ever made the mechs feel like they actually have weight and inertia done beyond "well teehee this is ass to control and the movement doesn't make sense for the form", and something would be lost in the process.

>>23498784
>I hate things I have to adapt to but that should have been normalized decades ago
oldtype oji-san...

>>23499139
and you've played none, smoothbrain
the only acrobatics you can ever see there is in Heavyarms circus attacks or during a few ace pilot combos in Musou

>>23512598
funnily the VOTOMS PS2 game has possibly the best mecha combat and movement

>>23498784
>>23512689
I know right?

>>23512965
why is the webm titled code geass when it's clearly VOTOMS

>>23513089
You can't fool me, only code geass moves like that

>>23512700
>possibly the best mecha combat and movement
It's pretty good. It's a z target shooter with very trailing shots and quicktime melee, which is neat, but also pretty standard for action mech games. Animations are great though. I wish the levels were a little more open and complex.
>>23512965
I recently rewatched some votoms and boy, chirico really has people get the first shot on him, they miss, and then he turns and shoots them. He can do that a dozen times in a row. He's usually not even taking cover or anything. The dude lives and breathes stormtrooper aiming.
Having someone actually dodging isn't that much less believable than someone failing to be hit by someone who got the drop on them over and over, when you think about it.

>>23512965
unironically a good example of inhuman speed and piloting technique, it is the speed and power of a machine that lets it skate straight up a wall and perform repeated boost-turns that would make a human skater lose their lunch
even when tipping the enemy over with their finger, the rapiddog doesn't even twist its torso to get more reach like a human would

>>23514698
you know it makes me so fucking mad that mecha fans and creators have gaslit themselves into imagining themselves as some sort of weird vehicle instead of just making them cool big humanoid fighters/soldiers that also happen to be vehicles

you can have both. You can have something that is treated like a machine with oil and joints and maintenance and shit while still having it kick ass

>>23515091
it's a false dichotomy, the big man obsessives are too scared of vehicles
look deep enough into machines and you will find human things... because they are designed by humans, designed to be used by humans. they are the progeny of humanity