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Anonymous No.23500759 [Report] >>23500852 >>23500916 >>23501772 >>23501868 >>23502032 >>23502658 >>23505824 >>23505911 >>23507437 >>23549973 >>23591475
Just read Shin Mazinger Zero
Why isnt this talked about more? What a banger.
Anonymous No.23500777 [Report] >>23501982
do you expect people to keep talking about everything until the end of times? lurk moar faggot
Anonymous No.23500852 [Report] >>23501785 >>23502015 >>23502649
>>23500759 (OP)
Base TTGL victim. Sorry but I don't make the rules
Anonymous No.23500916 [Report] >>23501982
>>23500759 (OP)
We talked about it all time when it was getting translated and during SRW threads. It's not our fault you can't pay attention to shit years after the fact.
Anonymous No.23501772 [Report] >>23501775
>>23500759 (OP)
I've been shilling it literally every other time Mazinger came up, it's my favourite Mazinger story
Anonymous No.23501775 [Report] >>23501792
>>23501772
and probably the only one you ever read
Anonymous No.23501785 [Report] >>23502066 >>23502418 >>23505907
>>23500852
Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.23501792 [Report]
>>23501775
Nuh uh, I've read everything else I could get my grubby paws on, not that the rest were tremendously satisfying. Although I'm still waiting for Ota's Great to get translated, so I can read that and Grendizer. That might be promising, but I definitely felt a great love for Mazinger from Shin Mazinger Zero.
Anonymous No.23501868 [Report]
>>23500759 (OP)
Not as much of a banger as Wolf Guy iykwim
Anonymous No.23501982 [Report] >>23526574
>>23500777
>>23500916
What am I supposed to do? Travel back in time?
Anonymous No.23501987 [Report]
I really liked it, especially the final battle and the ending. The constant horny scenes were kinda annoying, however
Anonymous No.23502015 [Report]
>>23500852
live yourself
Anonymous No.23502028 [Report] >>23502035
Has it been fully translated yet?
Anonymous No.23502032 [Report] >>23502035
>>23500759 (OP)
Only losers like cheap coom bait slop
Anonymous No.23502035 [Report]
>>23502028
Yes
>>23502032
True!
Anonymous No.23502066 [Report] >>23502434 >>23502448
>>23501785
I BROKE you, pup.
Anonymous No.23502081 [Report] >>23502096 >>23510066
Minerva was mean to Maria
Anonymous No.23502096 [Report] >>23502103 >>23502263 >>23502326 >>23503026
>>23502081
The manga in general was mean to Grendizer and its cast
Anonymous No.23502103 [Report] >>23510591
>>23502096
Zero already had enough going on without needing to drag in Grendizer’s cast.
Anonymous No.23502263 [Report]
>>23502096
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Anonymous No.23502326 [Report]
>>23502096
Going "if Zero finds out about Grendizer we're absolutely fucked" is pretty funny to be honest.
Anonymous No.23502418 [Report]
>>23501785
>t. Zerofag crying
Anonymous No.23502434 [Report]
>>23502066
>Incoherent /dbs/pic tears
Anonymous No.23502448 [Report] >>23502452 >>23502458 >>23502478
>>23502066
>coherent /dbs/king speech
Anonymous No.23502452 [Report] >>23502483
>>23502448
Stop samefagging.
Anonymous No.23502458 [Report]
>>23502448
Keep differentCHADing.
Anonymous No.23502478 [Report] >>23502483
>>23502448
fregolibitch...
Anonymous No.23502483 [Report] >>23502492
>>23502478
Whoops, meant for >>23502452
Anonymous No.23502487 [Report]
>Brainrotted /dbs/pic can’t help but samefag unintentionally
Anonymous No.23502492 [Report] >>23502496
>>23502483
no
Anonymous No.23502495 [Report]
>dbsdbssdbsdbsdbsdbsdbs
Obsessed
Anonymous No.23502496 [Report]
>>23502492
Yes.
Anonymous No.23502507 [Report] >>23502586
>Stop pointing out the samefagging rat shitting up the thread with /dbs/ babble!
Anonymous No.23502516 [Report]
/dbs/ is dead
there is no samefagging, you are paranoid and severely mentally ill
go outside
Anonymous No.23502522 [Report] >>23502531 >>23502597
/dbs/ being dead is exactly why you’re here, shitting up threads that hurt your fee fees while hiding behind Gurren Lagann in a desperate attempt to fit in.
Anonymous No.23502524 [Report] >>23502905
genuine conspiracy theory
why are you like this
Anonymous No.23502531 [Report] >>23502905
>>23502522
All the /dbs/ people went to /co/ THOUGH
Anonymous No.23502586 [Report]
>>23502507
YOU are the one shitting up the thread with your “samefagging” delusions, retarded nigger. This thread was having some degree of discussion before you showed up to make it all about your schizophrenia.
Anonymous No.23502597 [Report]
>>23502522
Everyone from that place is either ghostposting or over at the DB threads. You are insane.
Anonymous No.23502649 [Report]
>>23500852
crazy how this fact triggered thread fission
Anonymous No.23502658 [Report]
>>23500759 (OP)
I did not care for it
Anonymous No.23502905 [Report]
>>23502524
Least insane mecha fan in 2025.
>>23502531
onionposter? here? I KNEEL.
Anonymous No.23502912 [Report] >>23502930 >>23503035 >>23503043 >>23503043
This was such a nice scene. If you can stomach go nagai's horny bullshit, I would recommend it
Anonymous No.23502930 [Report] >>23503267
>>23502912
Why would you read Go Nagai manga if you don’t like sexy girls?
Anonymous No.23503026 [Report]
>>23502096
We at least get some redemption at the end with Koji specifically pointing out Grendizer and saying that he wanted to fight with him. It would have been interesting to have a trilogy where we got Koji, Tetsuya, AND Duke, but I don't know how they could have topped both their endings.
Anonymous No.23503035 [Report] >>23503267
>>23502912
We get it, you're homosexual. Nobody cares.
Anonymous No.23503043 [Report] >>23503052 >>23503267
>>23502912
>>23502912
>horny
Shut up.
Anonymous No.23503052 [Report] >>23503065 >>23503070 >>23503108
>>23503043
The tentacle wires are a bit much for me, I’m used to revealing pilot outfits but not outfits where even a single wrong move might cause an orgasm.
Anonymous No.23503065 [Report]
>>23503052
Nobody asked.
Anonymous No.23503070 [Report]
>>23503052
I asked
Anonymous No.23503108 [Report] >>23503267
>>23503052
then you're a pussy
Anonymous No.23503267 [Report] >>23503714 >>23505535 >>23505873 >>23507437 >>23508276 >>23592048
>>23502930
>>23503035
>>23503043
There is a limit to whats acceptable. Also, isnt she underage here?
>>23503108
Or (you) are just a giga coomer
Anonymous No.23503269 [Report] >>23504229
Let's discuss Mazinger Z 2
Anonymous No.23503714 [Report]
>>23503267
>oomer

Good lord, your generation is just beyond warped.
Anonymous No.23504229 [Report] >>23505130 >>23505624
>>23503269
>Mazinger Z 2
The actual name is New Mazinger, newfag. It was created to fight against the Mckinley corps.
>can't find the screencap that mentioned the Mckinley corps
Anonymous No.23505130 [Report] >>23505146 >>23505229 >>23505457 >>23580815
>>23504229
>no shin great mazinger
its SO over
Anonymous No.23505146 [Report] >>23505229 >>23505441
>>23505130
It's been almost like 16 years since Shin Mazinger premiered. Move on from it.
Anonymous No.23505229 [Report] >>23510062
>>23505130
Being familiar with Z and Great's stories, you can probably piece the story together, and that's a fair argument. But Shin also did enough unique shit that you're left fondly wondering how balls to the wall insane Shin Great would have been. I don't think Marshal Hell would have come back willingly, but how would it have handled the endgame against the Emperor of Darkness? What other surprises or other Go Nagai properties would have shown up? Would we have gotten a Grendizer tease, and posting here about it longingly had Shin Great come out? The possibilities...
>>23505146
No. What you call cope, I call hope.
Anonymous No.23505441 [Report]
>>23505146
Im a newfag THOUGH
Anonymous No.23505457 [Report] >>23505574
>>23505130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Id24og3Wko
This is as close as we'll get.
Anonymous No.23505535 [Report]
>>23503267
>Also, isnt she underage here?
Go back to twitter zoomie, lolis are /m/
Anonymous No.23505574 [Report] >>23522477
>>23505457
Super robot wars has been carrying this franchise for the last decade
Anonymous No.23505576 [Report]
>Go back to twitter zoomie, lolis are /m/
Anonymous No.23505624 [Report] >>23509679
>>23504229
Anon I'm pretty sure it was a joke
Anonymous No.23505824 [Report]
>>23500759 (OP)
Mods ban anyone they even THINK might be some namefag people schizo out over, hence the lack of discussion.
Anonymous No.23505873 [Report]
>>23503267
Oh fuck off
Anonymous No.23505907 [Report]
>>23501785
Debunk it instead of crying
Oh wait it's impossible to debunk, LOL!
Anonymous No.23505911 [Report] >>23506732
>>23500759 (OP)
it insisted upon itself
Anonymous No.23506732 [Report] >>23506736
>>23505911
Your mother insists upon my dick.
Anonymous No.23506736 [Report]
>>23506732
..." is what every Mazinger Zero fan hears from everyone.
Anonymous No.23506765 [Report] >>23507663
Nobody reads, if it gets an anime you might get some discussion
Anonymous No.23507437 [Report]
>>23500759 (OP)
got a bit too contrived for me to finish but I appreciated it
>>23503267
you may be 18 but still too young to be posting here
Anonymous No.23507663 [Report] >>23508273
Kinda disappointing Mazinger thread, have a Sayaka not ashamed and ready to pilot.

>>23506765
Who would even animate or direct it? My ideal was Kimura but he passed away and I can't trust Obrai with a full series.
Anonymous No.23508273 [Report] >>23508313 >>23508357
>>23507663
She's supposed to be cute, not slutty THOUGH
Anonymous No.23508276 [Report] >>23508409 >>23508410
>>23503267
>Also, isnt she underage here?
>ISN'T THAT CARTOON CHARACTER 17 YEARS AND 364 DAYS OLD?
Your haircut looks like broccoli.
Anonymous No.23508313 [Report]
>>23508273
>why not both
Also, why are we acting as if this outfit came from Zero
Anonymous No.23508357 [Report]
>>23508273
>Cute not slutty
>Post the one Sayaka with her tits out
Ok
Anonymous No.23508409 [Report]
>>23508276
meds Im white
Anonymous No.23508410 [Report]
>>23508276
meds now, im white
Anonymous No.23508413 [Report] >>23508415
this thread significantly lacks Minerva images
Anonymous No.23508415 [Report] >>23508417
>>23508413
Anonymous No.23508417 [Report]
>>23508415
Anonymous No.23508418 [Report]
You motherfuckers have an uncanny ability to derrail threads
Anonymous No.23509679 [Report] >>23509942
>>23505624
I-I was joking too...
>New Mazinger
>from the shitty-ass subs from the movie
Anonymous No.23509942 [Report] >>23509958
>>23509679
You stuttered.
Anonymous No.23509958 [Report] >>23509970
>>23509942
No!
Anonymous No.23509970 [Report] >>23509995
>>23509958
Because of your stuttering, you have to masturbate to crow-sama.
Anonymous No.23509995 [Report] >>23510611
>>23509970
As much as I like being ordered to masturbate I deeply despise that stupid crow
Anonymous No.23510062 [Report] >>23510624
>>23505229
>Great Mazinger's pilot is a clone of Uncle Tetsuya
>Scene of Mycenae Empire fighting Vegan Empire
>Govarian cameo
>Early design for Great Mazinger used, somehow
>Mazinger Angels
>Great Booster gets an upgrade called God Booster

Almost writes itself.
Anonymous No.23510066 [Report] >>23510752
>>23502081
There's being mean, and then there's this.
Anonymous No.23510591 [Report]
>>23502103
I feel like it only really added that stuff at all because they knew people would be asking WHERE GRENDIZER.
Anonymous No.23510611 [Report] >>23510624
>>23509995
The crow spitting at Boss' is truly the epitome of comedy and "kinography".
Anonymous No.23510624 [Report] >>23511927 >>23514663
>>23510062
I have a mighty need for all of this
>>23510611
Hiss
Anonymous No.23510752 [Report] >>23511867 >>23537906
>>23510066
I want to see a SRW were Minerva constantly bullies Maria
Anonymous No.23511867 [Report]
>>23510752
>no playable units or even supporters
>it is JUST Minerva finding and bullying Maria at every opportunity
>it doesn't matter where she is or what the context is, whether it's something fun and casual like a meal or a birthday party, or something dire like being in the middle of a boss fight
>just shits on and bullies her constantly
>by the start of act 2, her sad portrait is her default portrait
Anonymous No.23511927 [Report] >>23511939
>>23510624
Anonymous No.23511939 [Report] >>23511993
>>23511927
This is so fucking miserable. He didn't deserve that. No one deserves that. Delete this immediately.
Anonymous No.23511993 [Report] >>23512065
>>23511939
It's too late, more than 20 minutes passed. The post can't be deleted anymore.
Anonymous No.23512065 [Report] >>23520333
>>23511993
I hate you I hate you
Anonymous No.23512078 [Report]
https://twitter.com/evolutiontoy/status/1963470732198859222
LED.
Anonymous No.23514663 [Report] >>23515247
>>23510624
>2-part episode about Mass-Produced Great Mazingers, Black Great, GMFA1.
>Japanese government collaborates with the Mycenae Empire.
>Kelvinius episode is gonna make you cry.

We don't live in the best timeline.
Anonymous No.23515247 [Report] >>23526713
>>23514663
>getting fucking MP Great Mazingers and all that transpires
>Kelvinus
We were ROBBED
Anonymous No.23515281 [Report]
The Boss quote.
Anonymous No.23515305 [Report] >>23515320
Anonymous No.23515320 [Report] >>23516341
>>23515305
Anonymous No.23516341 [Report] >>23517464
>>23515320
is there any explanation as why archduke godron is a green freak that's fused to a big ass cat? The other Mycenaes look normal
Anonymous No.23517464 [Report]
>>23516341
Well, when he dies we see that he's a cyborg, also what do you mean everyone else looks normal, they all have a fake head and a real head
Are you just saying that because he's not bipedal? Are you some kind of racist?
(He debuted earlier in Z than any of the other Mycenae, so it might have been just two separate stages of designs, where they came up with someone cool then wondered what the next antags would look like, but I don't think even in Shin they addressed why he's like that, the tiger was a separate buddy but that's about it.)
Anonymous No.23519217 [Report]
The Mazinger and Dynazenon interaction of SRW Y.
Anonymous No.23520333 [Report]
>>23512065
Good, good.
Anonymous No.23520902 [Report] >>23522620
Is there any production, in-universe, or any other ostensible reason why the Double Harken seems to be - or at least often comes across as - Grendizer's signature or strongest attack? With Great's Thunder Break, and what people assume about Z's Breast Fire, you wouldn't be insane for assuming that Space Thunder was the most powerful. But instead it's some circular double polearm that he just swings and throws around. I'm assuredly missing something here.
Anonymous No.23522477 [Report]
>>23505574
It's gonna keep doing that if Grendizer U sequel bait ending is anything to go by.
Anonymous No.23522620 [Report] >>23522932
>>23520902
I think it's just because it's a fairly unique looking melee weapon? It was a fairly weak attack even in SRW for Grendizer's original SRW 2-4 appearances, then got boosted afterwards around the time of A to its finisher.
Anonymous No.23522932 [Report] >>23523432
>>23522620
Yeah it looks nice, but it's just a unique melee weapon, what about electricity or magnetism, I think those could potentially fuck you up at molecular levels with some bullshit explanation than the double harken can
>It was a fairly weak attack even in SRW for Grendizer's original SRW 2-4 appearances, then got boosted afterwards around the time of A to its finisher.
Right, ok so it was just dinky at the start, and I assume Space Thunder or the Spazer stuff were the strongest back then. So have you or anyone finished the show to know whether or not it's his actual finisher? I'm still waiting on better subs. Because if SRW bumped it up to a finisher, there might be a reason why, but then again Z's breast fire is also one of the more stronger attacks even though nothing in Toeizinger (afaik) indicated this in the slightest.
Anonymous No.23523432 [Report]
>>23522932
It's similar to Mazinger where the weapon use is situational although Space Thunder and the Double Harken were finishers more often than the other weapons.
Anonymous No.23526574 [Report]
>>23501982
No, just deck these whiney kneejerk faggots into their mouthbreather noses.
Anonymous No.23526713 [Report] >>23537574
>>23515247
>Koji becomes a cyborg
>Ashura returns, but split in two
>Ares is the final boss instead of The Great Marshall of Hell

Such wonders we shall never see.
Anonymous No.23530784 [Report]
Anonymous No.23534793 [Report] >>23535425
>out of nowhere
Anonymous No.23535425 [Report]
>>23534793
this has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about
Anonymous No.23537574 [Report] >>23542559
>>23526713
Whats up with Uranus and Posaidon? They are mentioned in the story, but they didnt do anything. You would think Posaidon would do something if his 2 main allies were fighting.
Anonymous No.23537906 [Report] >>23542559 >>23542597
>>23510752
I understand them thinking it's way too similar to normal Kaiser, but I find it sad that SRW V and X didn't give Great Mazinkaiser for Tetsuya to fight ZERO. Either that or at least just give normal Kaiser to him, and then introduce Emperor G in SRW X.
Anonymous No.23542559 [Report] >>23542597 >>23556616
>>23537574
The Olympians don't appear for the most part, the story is about defeating the Mycenae Empire. They're still out there and a problem, but that's for after Shin Grendizer.

>>23537906
Great Mazinkaiser makes sense in the story because you needed to see that "Mazinkaiser" isn't enough to beat ZERO. As an upgrade for Tetsuya it's not ideal because It's just Mazinkaiser with some tweaked details. Mazin Emperor G's design and weapons are all designed just for Tetsuya.
Anonymous No.23542597 [Report] >>23542605 >>23542613 >>23544470
>>23537906
>>23542559
Also, back in V they were hyping up Emperor G as being on Zero's level. Great Mazinger by default was bellow that.

It's only starting from X that they changed it to Kaiser-level.
Anonymous No.23542605 [Report]
>>23542597
>Great Mazinger by default was bellow that.
I meant Great Mazinkaiser.
Anonymous No.23542613 [Report]
>>23542597
Tetsuya fanficers go home and stay home
Anonymous No.23544470 [Report] >>23544573
>>23542597
Mazin Emperor G wasn't pumped in SRW V, ZERO was gimped. Lore-accurate ZERO is a reality buster. His Breast Fire should vaporize each map. Maybe RahXephon or Ideon could hang with it but Emperor has never shown anything close to that power level.
Anonymous No.23544573 [Report]
>>23544470
In V, it was said Mazinger Zero could destroy the entire world. And Embryo uses a fraction of its power mixed with Awakened Eva-01's in an attempt to fuse the 3 universes from V which would have worked if it didn't get interrupted.

Its battle animations also were absolutely over the top, often destroy vast areas, and Emperor G's animations were clearly designed to be on that level too. Even in X, when they brought back Mazinkaiser, they clearly had to make it more over the top than ever before animation-wise to keep up with Emperor G (note that stat-wise Emperor G got downgraded in X too to go alongside its role of being a pair with Mazinkaiser, rather than Mazinger Zero).

In the final battle, Zero also holds reality together alongside Awakened Eva-01 and Shin Getter.

Heck, looking back, I guess it's due to Emperor G not being involved in any of this world destroying stuff that people couldn't take it being on par with Zero seriously and it got downgraded afterwards.
Anonymous No.23549973 [Report] >>23550150 >>23550212 >>23552904 >>23555425
>>23500759 (OP)
I think that Zero is a shitty villian that is presented as way more powerful than its role requires it to be and I don't like the execution of timeloop/multiverse/meta angle and the story structure in this.
I like some scenes and passion behind it, but I feel like it didn't bring anything worthwhile to Mazinger mythos and usage of Zero since in stuff like SRW and Infinitism novels made me somewhat jaded.
Anonymous No.23550150 [Report] >>23550212 >>23550317
>>23549973
I've never seen a Mazinger villain get this scary (except for all the times that it did, in the more obscure stuff by Go Nagai but shh) but the fact that it was pulling from so many of his works, the fact that the first ending (and a few fake-outs you get after) are very lovely and happy Mazinger endings and the final ending being a thank-you+love-letter to Go Nagai overall, I can't hate it. Zero was a terrifying seething baby and doesn't really have much depth, yeah. But it's also - debatably less so than Getter Emperor - a bit of an incomprehensible threat with the power of a god. If you were mostly focusing on the actual villain than the series in your post, yeah I get that. It's not necessarily a 10/10, even though for me it is because of the ride.
Anonymous No.23550187 [Report]
Anonymous No.23550212 [Report] >>23550237
>>23549973
>>23550150

Zero's power is kind of necessary for the meta message, but ,yeah, obviously if you don't care about that either then it seems unnecessary.
Anonymous No.23550237 [Report] >>23555264
>>23550212
I also forget which unfinished Mazinger manga (Mazin Saga? The one with the Mazinger demon helmet?) it was from, but the different chakras awakening were pulled from that as well. Which makes me appreciate Shin Mazinger Zero a bit more, but also makes me realize from the other works that an evil Mazinger going berserk wasn't an idea unique to Zero. But worst-case you can just once again refer to the final ending's message.
Oh man I'm going to be really sad when Go Nagai passes away.
Anonymous No.23550317 [Report] >>23555256
>>23550150
If you don't like the meta shit you can ignore the follow up manga but the original is just really more a multiverse loop.
Anonymous No.23552904 [Report] >>23552964
>>23549973
>Mazinger mythos
Americans are so retarded.
Anonymous No.23552964 [Report]
>>23552904
What, should I have called it a "DynaPro star system"? "Mythos" seems appropriate to me, especially with the mythology references and Mazinger enabling its pilot to become a god or a devil (which depending on a story might not be just a figure of speech).
I'm an old worlder and also ESL by the way.
Anonymous No.23555256 [Report]
>>23550317
I love me my comfy happy epilogue endings, but you miss out on a lot of Great, and all of Ankoku and the meta, but yeah it's very difficult to say whether the original or the complete thing is better.
Anonymous No.23555264 [Report] >>23555269 >>23555317
>>23550237
>unfinished Mazinger manga (Mazin Saga? The one with the Mazinger demon helmet?)
Yeah, the one that has Nagai's favorite creation, Devilman, in it with a similar concept to Mazin Saga's Mazinger.
Anonymous No.23555269 [Report] >>23562076
>>23555264
>Nagai's favorite creation, Devilman
I love Devilman, there's nothing wrong with Devilman, I just feel some degree of spite towards it when Go Nagai gives it attention and drops yet another Mazinger manga partway
Anonymous No.23555317 [Report] >>23562076
>>23555264
Mazinger Z vs Devilman is a classic after all.
Also, I'm sure Uncle Go's actual favourite creation is Koji's boyfriend, Angelman.
Anonymous No.23555425 [Report] >>23555514
>>23549973

That is kind of the point. ZERO is a meta response to power creep in the mecha genre. It was never meant to be an actual part of the Mazinger mythos, but a commentary on how the capabilities of real/super robots in Anime have grown in the 4 decades between when Mazinger Z premiered and when Shin Mazinger ZERO did. Consider Mazinger Z's capabilities in '72 were enough to allow Koji to become a "god or devil," but in modern mecha anime it's capabilities barely place it on the level of an elite grunt while the real "god/devil" level mecha do things like throw galaxies as shuriken or erase concepts.

ZERO is the urge to make Mazinger the strongest mech ever and is why no form of Mazinger, be it Z, Great or Kaiser, will ever defeat it. This ties into how ZERO is defeated in the end: ZERO is defeated not by making Mazinger Z the "most powerful super robot ever" but by admitting that it is the original that others were inspired by, having those inspirations as a group surpass it and then having ZERO realize that.
Anonymous No.23555514 [Report]
>>23555425
>admitting that it is the original that others were inspired by, having those inspirations as a group surpass it and then having ZERO realize that.
Yeah, I don't think it was a pity thing, Koji's concession to Zero, it felt like something you'd smile and say fondly and genuinely to a friend (despite him having schizoed out too hard).
I have no idea what happens after the ending though, I'd like to think it's another happy epilogue similar to the other twelve fake epilogues that part 2 gave us.
Anonymous No.23556616 [Report] >>23556679 >>23556736 >>23557049
>>23542559
yeah. honestly, I see Great Mazinkaiser as the final upgrade for Mazinger, and I think Koji should pilot it.
Anonymous No.23556679 [Report] >>23561913
>>23556616
Reading dumb shit like this, made me really appreciate what Infinity movie offered.
Anonymous No.23556736 [Report] >>23556770 >>23557049 >>23562025
>>23556616
Great Mazinkaiser doesn't have full God/Demon potential of original Mazinkaiser, thus no Kaiser Nova. And note the Kaiser Nova, the full unlock of potential of the Kaiser, is directly compared to the 7 Black Boxes from Mazinger Zero in SRW X/Y, with the 7 points that blink on activation. It power ups and changes the background in an identical way to what Zero does for Final Breat Nova attack animation in SRW too, making a direct parallel to that.
Anonymous No.23556770 [Report] >>23557049
>>23556736
Damn, Great Mazinkaiser sounds like a chump, would likely die to DvH Great Mazinger. At least Emperor G got Getter Guts.
Anonymous No.23556784 [Report]
Anonymous No.23557049 [Report] >>23557162 >>23557314
>>23556616
>>23556736
>>23556770

More proof that the devs and fans of SRW misunderstood the purpose of both ZERO and Great Mazinkaiser. Mazin Emperor G is pretty much them doing the exact same thing as what led to the original creation of the Mazinkaiser and even doing it the exact same way just because they don't want Mazinger Z (Koji) and Great Mazinger(Tetsuya) to become weak.
Anonymous No.23557162 [Report] >>23557285
>>23557049
Or maybe the message was weak and anti-imagination. As much as I don't like power faggotry part of that, Mazinkaiser and Mazin Emperor G are cool, so there is nothing wrong with them.
Still, I much prefer the way Shin Z way of buffing Mazinger.
>Koshiryoku Beam harder
>a new and cooler scrander that forms a giant Rocket Punch
Perfection.
Anonymous No.23557285 [Report] >>23557319
>>23557162
>Or maybe the message was weak and anti-imagination.

Nah, the core of the message of ZERO was pro-imagination along with the idea that it is ok to have stronger mecha in other franchises. The first 3 "photon images" summoned in the final battle were Getter Robo, Grendizer, and Jeeg as a reference Super Robot Retsuden followed soon after by more and more images of other mecha.

>Mazinkaiser and Mazin Emperor G are cool

At their core both of them a just redesigns of Z and Great done to justify them fighting on the level of "more powerful" mecha in SRW. Mazinkaiser is a 90s redesign of Z and in the OVA, aside from the first episode when Z is destroyed and Kaiser takes over, it is basically treated exactly like Z as a character.

>Still, I much prefer the way Shin Z way of buffing Mazinger.

Shin Z is very much a case of them restarting from zero and letting Z be as strong as it needs to be without worrying about the influences of later mecha series. Infinity was the same way Mazinger Z was strong enough to win against Hell's forces and the only thing Koji really needed a power up to beat was giant physical embodiment of Z's "replacements" which was defeated by the world's support giving it the ability to grow large enough to punch out Infinity as a one time power up.
Anonymous No.23557314 [Report]
>>23557049
>More proof that the devs and fans of SRW misunderstood the purpose of both ZERO and Great Mazinkaiser.

I think they understood the message which is why it couldn't be just Great Mazinkaiser in V. The point was exactly hyping up Tetsuya as strong enough to face Zero.

Yeah, you can say Kouji doesn't NEED to be brought on the level of newer shows, but that only works when you're looking at Mazinger as a complete story. When you have Kouji and Tetsuya constantly appearing as active heroes alongside newer characters and you want them to be a big deal, they need to be stronger.
Anonymous No.23557319 [Report]
>>23557285
>Mazinkaiser is a 90s redesign of Z and in the OVA, aside from the first episode when Z is destroyed and Kaiser takes over, it is basically treated exactly like Z as a character.
There's also the finale where Kouji talks with the hermit(? Is it his father? It's odd Kenzo outright isn't mentioned) and unlocks the Kaiser Blade. That kind of "hidden potential inside" stuff is all Mazinkaiser original and wasn't part of Z originally (Although then Zero used it for Z, but highlighting the direct meta message of not allowing Z to be surpassed by anything).
Anonymous No.23557527 [Report]
The Mazinger story where Mazinger Z wants to be the largest, tallest sized mecha of all time.
Anonymous No.23557980 [Report]
https://twitter.com/EmberToys/status/1973581339153875197
Embertoys Mazinkaiser.
Anonymous No.23561913 [Report] >>23561946
>>23556679
whats wrong with infinity? It was a bit nonsensical, but cool.
Anonymous No.23561946 [Report] >>23562061 >>23562071
>>23561913
Quite a lot, IMO.
New seiyuu, Yanase's redesigns, the way Koji and Sayaka were portrayed, Lisa in general, randomly using Dr. Hell again just for nostalgia points.
I mean, I liked the action for the most part, but that's about it. Overall, I consider it a "meh" experience.
Anonymous No.23562025 [Report] >>23562190
>>23556736
>Great Mazinkaiser doesn't have full God/Demon potential of original Mazinkaiser, thus no Kaiser Nova. And note the Kaiser Nova, the full unlock of potential of the Kaiser, is directly compared to the 7 Black Boxes from Mazinger Zero in SRW X/Y, with the 7 points that blink on activation. It power ups and changes the background in an identical way to what Zero does for Final Breat Nova attack animation in SRW too, making a direct parallel to that.
I honestly thought that was just because they reused the animation (like a lot of stuff in Y for Mazinkaiser) from X, since Mazinger ZERO isn't in the game itself. Still, in the case of X, though, you're right.
Anonymous No.23562061 [Report]
>>23561946
I guess thats fair. I like how Koji grew up to become a scientist like Juzo/Kenzo, however,
Anonymous No.23562071 [Report] >>23562190 >>23562248
>>23561946
I think it was harmless and appreciable after I saw it as an immediate follow-up to Toeizinger and Great, do you have any ideas on what they could have done for a better villain? Admittedly it's weird that Dr Hell somehow came back from the dead twice, but I don't know if OCs would have been very compelling, and I don't know how I would have felt about them finishing off the Emperor of Darkness after waiting like, however many years it's been since the show and the movie
Anonymous No.23562076 [Report] >>23567801
>>23555269
>>23555317
Devilman gave Nagai this mission and resolve.
Anonymous No.23562190 [Report] >>23567801
>>23562025
Well, the profile with the different modes for Kaiser and its potential is reused too. But, yeah, no direct comparisons to Zero outside of the reused animation since Zero isn't in the game.

>>23562071
Not that anon, but I think a new threat could have sold the danger better? It kind of felt like once Kouji was back in the Z there was the sense everything would be fine since he had done that before, in spite of the situation being worse in some ways this time (with the army of Kikkaiju at once and Infinity).

The problem with the Emperor of Darkness is that although it never got a proper battle, everyone around him would be reused villains in the same way, just bringing back Great Mazinger, rather than Z villains, and obviously Dr.Hell wins there if you're going for nostalgia.
Anonymous No.23562248 [Report] >>23567801
>>23562071
What if Dr. Hell himself is dead, but he found and started to work on controlling Infinity before dying. So what was found in ruins alongside it is unfinished controller unit Gamia Q.
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Anonymous No.23566909 [Report] >>23566958
Anonymous No.23566958 [Report] >>23567761 >>23567775
>>23566909
Kek. What chapter?
Anonymous No.23567761 [Report] >>23567775 >>23569377
>>23566958
Chapter 7, one of the Gojira fights
Anonymous No.23567775 [Report]
>>23566958
>>23567761
It must be the 2nd fight. There are no special battle quotes in the first one outside of a couple of characters.
Anonymous No.23567801 [Report]
>>23562076
The Mazinger one translated when
>>23562190
I don't know how I'd feel about a completely new enemy, they'd have to get the people and mech designs as well as characterization all right, either likable or at least have something enough for us to care, whereas like, I genuinely don't know whether they would have been capable of that. The rest of the movie seemed like a passion project by people who knew and loved the work, so maybe?
I THINK we didn't see some generals explicitly die at the ending of Great but I could be mistaken, I remember finding something a bit jarring but I assume the intent was at least that they all died. But yeah, unless there were survivors, it'd be a reuse issue again and you'd have to pick Dr Hell if you wanted to pick someone returning.
>>23562248
>Gamia Q in the Toei cartoon canon
I need it
Anonymous No.23568645 [Report] >>23569229
The SMP Mazinger Z.
Anonymous No.23569229 [Report]
>>23568645
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>p-bandai
Why even live
Anonymous No.23569377 [Report] >>23569607
>>23567761
He shows up that early? You better be able to recruit him.
Anonymous No.23569607 [Report]
>>23569377
>He shows up that early?
That's like 50 hours in. And no.
Anonymous No.23570046 [Report]
https://bandaicandy.hateblo.jp/entry/20251010_smp
Anonymous No.23570048 [Report]
Kotetsu Jeeg with Mazinger Z limbs.
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Anonymous No.23575681 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF_FH4HuqZE
Anonymous No.23580572 [Report] >>23580645
https://twitter.com/godtail_eve/status/1978051937263083781
Anonymous No.23580645 [Report] >>23580668 >>23580805 >>23580815 >>23590387
>>23580572
Great art (where's Great), more content onegai
Wait, what even happened to the Zest manga
Anonymous No.23580668 [Report] >>23580754 >>23580815
>>23580645
In terms of other, different Expo art, there was this Great Mazinger piece from the right.
Anonymous No.23580754 [Report] >>23586099
>>23580668
Great Mazinger my beloved... affordable toy when
Anonymous No.23580805 [Report] >>23580813 >>23580815 >>23580818
>>23580645
>Wait, what even happened to the Zest manga

Chapter 20 this December. Later chapters of the manga have mecha based on other Nagai series like Groizer and Sirene. Also Great Mazinger and Mazinkaiser lookalikes.
Anonymous No.23580813 [Report] >>23580818 >>23580831
>>23580805
Anonymous No.23580815 [Report] >>23580818 >>23580973 >>23586099
>>23580805
>>23580668
>>23580645
>>23505130
Anonymous No.23580818 [Report] >>23580990
>>23580805
>>23580813
Translations doko, and how are we only on chapter 20, was it monthly?
Great my beloved
>>23580815
I already memorized the Mazinkaiser OVA, no translations are necessary
Anonymous No.23580831 [Report] >>23583957
>>23580813
And then there's this Angel-like Mazinger for the final chapter. It seems like this chapter 20 update in December will be the ending.
Anonymous No.23580973 [Report] >>23583705
>>23580815
Why bully Great Mazinger, anon?
Anonymous No.23580990 [Report] >>23581018
>>23580818
There's also an ongoing Cutie Honey manga with some translated chapters.
https://mangadex.org/title/a31f25f7-b717-4d88-a471-02f15ca2da44/cutie-honey-nova
Anonymous No.23581018 [Report]
>>23580990
Mommy
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Anonymous No.23583705 [Report]
>>23580973
I'm sorry. I can't help myself.
Anonymous No.23583957 [Report]
>>23580831
still waiting...
Anonymous No.23586099 [Report] >>23587089
>>23580754
>>23580815
Anonymous No.23586839 [Report] >>23587089 >>23587137
I'm a retard. I just realized Mazinger Zero's face is literally just Juzo's face down to the missing eye. He's just a representation of Juzo's inner demons and dark desires hence why he was defeated the same way as Juzo, by teaching him to love his family/all the different mechas it spawned.
Anonymous No.23587089 [Report] >>23588981
>>23586099
As much as I love that he gets an upgrade that early on, it's still nice to see the Atomic Punch get used now and then. Same with the Rocket Punch over the Iron Cutters, glad to see that upgrades don't put the originals out of business.
>>23586839
I've read the entire thing twice and still didn't notice this. It's a good manga! A lot of love plainly went into it.
Anonymous No.23587137 [Report]
>>23586839
Wait how didnt I notice this?
Anonymous No.23588955 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOAmzhWy4IQ
Anonymous No.23588981 [Report] >>23591491
>>23587089
I was never a fan of the Atomic Punch. Going from Z firing it's forearm off to Great just firing it's fist always felt like a downgrade. Drill Pressure Punch always looks good, a nice evolution of the Rocket Punch and the Iron Cutters.
Anonymous No.23590387 [Report] >>23591491
>>23580645
https://twitter.com/smash_ktr1996/status/1960910767689232847
Great Mazinger art.
Anonymous No.23591475 [Report]
>>23500759 (OP)
>>>/a/283262831
daily shin mazinger thread on/a/
Anonymous No.23591491 [Report] >>23591940 >>23592510
>>23588981
But it spins! And what do you mean, the little fin thing on the forearm was always a part of it too, spinning around. The DPP is really great though.
>>23590387
Great Mazinger my beloved, and it's the more saturated colours too!
Anonymous No.23591940 [Report] >>23592506
>>23591491
I didn't believe you about the little fin bit also firing off, so I went and checked and you're right. Never noticed. Still not as cool as a regular Rocket Punch though.
Anonymous No.23592048 [Report]
>>23503267
The legal age in Japan is 16.
Anonymous No.23592506 [Report]
>>23591940
I accept you're concession, I accept payments in the form of Great Mazinger pics. I'll even sweeten the offer with my own concession: I took way too long to look into subtitled anime and Mazinger, and Mazinkaiser + Shin Mazinger + SRW let me to believe that he had just the DPP and I didn't know the Atomic Punch existed at all. It's just a dopey rocket punch that spins, but Great is inherently stronger than Z is at the start of Great's show. I wrote something about Tetsuya but it's such a fucking essay, and I don't want to saddle you with it in this reply, I'll post it separately.
>the only images of the atomic punch I have are from Zero
Anonymous No.23592510 [Report] >>23592514
>>23591491
Can't go wrong with blue as a main mecha color.
Anonymous No.23592511 [Report]
Please just ignore this if you haven't watched Great Mazinger, even though it's a 51 year old show!
After finishing an unrelated robot show (Zeta Gundam), I was reminded that I really love human characters. "Humans are complex", "humans are inherently contradictory", "our flaws and insecurities are not easy to get over", there's no fucking way I can talk about this without sounding pretentious. But applying "muh humans" logic back to Great Mazinger, Tetsuya - whom I was already invested in trying to defend, because I like him and his robot a lot but his show not only had some weak episodes (unlike Toeizinger) and had a depressing ending that put many people off (and the only follow-up we got for that I saw was SRW30 where Koji has no ill will over it?) - really is a slightly complex character and this garners more sympathy from me.
Treating the show as something intelligent and consistent, because Toeizinger Z never treated its viewers like idiots, Tetsuya's well-adjusted enough to give Shiro good advice about accepting his father, and bonds with Shiro as an older brother even prior to Kenzo's reveal. But he himself absolutely cannot handle some latecomer hot-shot taking away the one thing he valued himself for, and worries that he'll be thrown away since he and Great were just stand-ins compared to the actual son (and Z) who's just as capable as he is. But then he comes to his senses, and after Kenzo suffers fatal wounds for saving Tetsuya, he affirms to Koji that Tetsuya is a son to him as well. At no point does Koji ever blame Tetsuya or hold ill will against him. Like, Z had no weak episodes (Pygman's the worst offender as being unusual but they were still acceptable and fun), but Great definitely did. But you also get way more character moments, even aside from Jun and Tetsuya's issues, you have some mini arcs with Shiro getting closer to his father, who's a consistently warm person. Great is a Great show.
https://files.catbox.moe/0kukk3.webm
Anonymous No.23592514 [Report] >>23592517
Forgot to mention that you get more bickering and infighting politics with the Mycenae than you did with Brocken and Ashura. Great feels like a bootleg or rehash of Z with a shitton of cool and creative bits and a bit more depth to the characters. Like, there's some episodes that have the same plotpoints as ones in Z, but you can't not watch Great. And as much as I love Daisuke and Grendizer (better subs when?), a part of me wishes that we got that "I'm watching out for you, retard, I love you and everyone here" brotherly dynamic that we got in Grendizer for a continuation of Great Mazinger where we got to see the two of them do more. Even a movie tying into Grendizer would have been fine. I'll take even a fucking fanfic at this point. A radio drama entirely in morse code even.
>>23592510
Is that a cel? It's pleasant but I don't know what's going on here.
Anonymous No.23592517 [Report] >>23592563
>>23592514
Correct on the cel.
Anonymous No.23592542 [Report] >>23592563 >>23592663
Stopped reading this shit after Dr. Hell grabbed Jim "Obama" Mazinger by the nuts.
Anonymous No.23592556 [Report] >>23592563 >>23592663
Summoning all the other robots for an attack would be a good ultimate move for Zero the next time he's in an SRW. It would be good character development, him accepting his role as the forbearer for other robots to surpass him.
Anonymous No.23592563 [Report] >>23595649
>>23592517
Great Mazinger my beloved... I'll get a fun and affordable figure of you yet.
>>23592542
Why that in particular? It's just a Violence Jack design. Both part 1 and 2 have spectacular final fights and endings.
>>23592556
I thought you were illiterate until I read the second half of your post, sorry anon, I do love the idea. Feels much better than him just... chilling? And awakening (for what reason?) with his same world-ending moveset but being completely inanimate otherwise. Might be better to have Zero locked unless it's a boss stage, since it doesn't make sense to wake him up to clear unchallenging mooks for fun, but one might take issue with limiting players' freedom. But like, yeah him still having that autism against powerful foes but still appreciating the legacy that he left behind and wanting to protect his "children" that came out of him makes enough thematic sense that I can see SRW doing that really well should they go for it.
>there's a MAP attack and you get buffs for every single protag unit you have deployed, because they join in
>the white lights are filled out with the actual robots if they're deployed
>they also have voice lines attacking with Zero
Super Robot Wars 0, make it happen
Anonymous No.23592663 [Report]
>>23592542
lame
>>23592556
that would be so cool
Anonymous No.23593613 [Report]
https://twitter.com/IRON_IKEDA/status/1980935273954553901
Uncle Go's pose.
Anonymous No.23594100 [Report]
https://hjweb.jp/article/2404730/
Anonymous No.23595633 [Report] >>23595654
The box art.
Anonymous No.23595649 [Report] >>23595674
>>23592563
In V, where Zero stays along for a long time, it mostly takes the form of Mazinger Z, only turning into Zero during combat.

In X, where it's a permanent unit with the Mazinger Z completely separate from it, you only have it in the two final stages.
Anonymous No.23595654 [Report] >>23595656
>>23595633
Can the model open mouth?
Anonymous No.23595656 [Report] >>23595667
>>23595654
https://www.goodsmile.com/ja/product/60000/MODEROID+%E3%82%B4%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC?srsltid=AfmBOorCFVlYM5_-2aLclzr8TMxOyiyK7x_5wJ-p4oo2WbcLHhhlr_aR
The opened mouth face is an interchangeable piece.
Anonymous No.23595667 [Report]
>>23595656
Nice.
Anonymous No.23595674 [Report] >>23601060
>>23595649
>Shin can turn into Zero
>you can only use the unit very rarely
I love robots, Mazinger, Zero, and human freedom but like, I don't think Zero should be playable. It doesn't make sense and I feel weird piloting it, and it should just go back to bed, unless it's waking up for something really important.
>but then that's just it showing up for certain stages
Then have it be sentient and separate from Koji and Z, a separate that's there for the final stretch of the game, so I can still have Koji but also have this world-ending sperg go around fighting those who threaten his progeny if I want it to, with its group robot attack
Anonymous No.23596437 [Report] >>23596778 >>23596896
https://x.com/fofocoolman/status/1983904858177462530

It seems like they might have another Grendizer remake in production, completely separate from Grendizer U.


>''I don't think there will be a follow up to that series...''
>''But im looking to remake Grendizer with a whole new approach''
Anonymous No.23596606 [Report]
Happy 41st birthday, Akabane Kenji.
Anonymous No.23596778 [Report]
>>23596437
insane. Where is this grendizer stuff coming from? Grendizer went from having 0 content for 2 decades, to getting multiple remakes and a videogame. Hey, Im not complaining
Anonymous No.23596896 [Report] >>23601060
>>23596437
Giga bros, we're so fucking back!
Dizer U getting a Nagai end is sad, but expected.
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Anonymous No.23601060 [Report] >>23601099 >>23603798
>>23595674
They explain it in both V and X and Zero being able to evolve more when it's actually acting in synchrony with Kouji rather than by itself.

>>23596896
They really should just do a Grendizer Kaiser. It worked for Mazinkaiser so they should at least try it.
Anonymous No.23601099 [Report]
>>23601060
Grendizer is already the uchuu no ouja, so leave the Getter Rays upgrade to some other Mazinger derived robot, like Groizer X or Getter Go.
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Anonymous No.23603798 [Report]
>>23601060
>They explain it in both V and X and Zero being able to evolve more when it's actually acting in synchrony with Kouji rather than by itself.
I'll begrudgingly accept this, it still feels weird having Zero hang around like one of the pals
Anonymous No.23604768 [Report]
https://twitter.com/mazingo_info/status/1985134833698316512
"We are pleased to announce that Go Nagai has been awarded the "Order of the Rising Sun, Gold Rays with Neck Ribbon" in the autumn honors of 2025.
We are publishing the following comment from Go Nagai regarding this award."
Anonymous No.23605978 [Report]
https://twitter.com/essambukhary/status/1985641738677923905
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