Thread 23510985

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-=THE GUIDES=-
>Gelgoog Guy's gunpla guide:
gunpla.buyfags.moe
>Funaka's gunpla guides:
Building Gunpla: files.catbox.moe/fj5azc.pdf
Scratchbuilding: files.catbox.moe/2d9ppa.pdf
>Falldog's gunpla guide:
otakurevolution.com/content/laymans-gunpla-guide
>A guide to other types of plamo:
mediafire.com/file/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa
>Saintism's gunpla photography guide:
saint-ism.com/category/gunpla/photography

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>Gundam lineart (There's a lot!):
pastebin.com/22jyPB6q
>Dalong's gunpla reviews and documentation:
dalong.net
>Schizophonic's gunpla/plamo reviews:
schizophonic9-2.com
>KenBill Blog's gunpla/plamo reviews:
blog.kenbill.com
>Past Groupbuilds:
flickr.com/photos/197891373@N06
>Monthly Restock List:
old.reddit.com/r/gunpla/1n0pstz

Prior thread: >>23503718

-= BIOMECHA GROUPBUILD =-

Build a mecha/cyborg with a visibly biological component integrated into the machine. This can include:
>Mecha that naturally have some sort of organic component to them (Evangelions, Aura Battlers, etc)
>Mecha that have organic elements attached/fused to them, willingly or otherwise
>Cyborgs, androids, and human with mechanical attachments/enhancements (Robocop, Kamen Rider, mecha musume, etc)

Send your entries to gunplaplamo@gmail.com with at least 5 photos of your finished build along with any WIP photos and a description of your entry.
START - 8/12/25
END - 11/30/25

Post your WIPs!

Trying to get away from using Tamiya/Gundam Markers for panel lining, does anyone have have reccomendations? So far the 'front runner' is trying out Vallejo Model Wash, but I have no idea how well it works for lining Gunpla.

>>23511005
safest option since that thing is water based, only downside is it dries much slower and more annoying to clean. You can also try the off brand enamel washes, or make your own using oil paint and mineral spirits.

>>23510991
MK-V is so cool.

>>23511005
AK does water based panel liners. It can still crack plastic if you do it after assembly like a tard

I'm interested in this.
the only chinese model kit I want

>>23511071
>water based panel liners
>It can still crack plastic
So it's enamel then and not water based.

>>23511099
My bad, it is enamel. A dude kept saying it was water based so I believed him since I never bothered to check until now

What are the chances of this ever getting a model kit? Yes, I'm aware there's a Chinese rip-off but it looks like shit and I'm not interested at all.

>>23511153
Chinese kai looks like shit only because the original design is an ugly mess by itself

>>23511158
Your opinion is wrong

name the kit

>>23511169
RG Zeta

>>23511169
RG Hi-Nu
Sazabi Ver Ka
MGEX Strike Freedom

>>23511173
>Sazabi Ver Ka
I didn't have any of those issues with mine but it's been a long time since I built mine.

>>23511197
He's clearly trolling, those are like the top 3 r/gpg approved kits

>>23511169
IMS Bang

>>23511202
Oh okay, because I was about to echo that anon and say my Sazabi Ver.Ka doesn't have any of those issues either. Its very solid and tight, especially for a kit of its considerable size.

>>23511202
I wasn't positive because I built the MGEX and it meets two of the criteria. Some of the gold is also poor plastic quality.

>>23511219
gold plastic is just brittle in general.

>>23511005
Why are you trying to? Tamiya is easy to use, cheap, and won't break your plastic if you use it correctly (which isn't hard)

>>23511292
Because it DID break the plastic.

And if "using it correctly" means doing a gloss coat first, then why not just buy panel liners that don't crack plastic in the first place.

>>23511323
"Using it correctly" means just don't let it pool inside the joints. Use it on unassembled parts if you're paranoid and it'll never crack your plastic.

This kit is ALMOST good. the base design is really good, but unfortunately Zhang's DNA made them add too many "extras"

>>23511344
this is gyobu on retard steroids. It's really bad. I do agree with you the base design would be good.

>>23511153
>>23511158
>>23511160
The original drawing is a bulky mess, so the Chang version is accurate in that respect

>>23511344
Valkyrie is much better, but still too busy.

>>23511323
I don't gloss coat and have never cracked anything. I even do it on assembled PS parts without issue. Just do it on unassembled parts if they directly link to ABS. Also wipe it off with a paper towel if you accidentally put a shit ton on.
You want to go light as it will save you effort cleaning it off later anyway.
Also if it matters I remove excess with an eraser about 10-15 minutes after it is applied. I only occasionally panel line on the runners, pretty much only when I'm feeling too lazy to clip/sand but want to make progress.

>>23511169
In my own experience, MG GP01fb

>>23511357
I love how it's basically an Astraea III with no GN drives

>>23511366
I’ve heard the GP01 is one of the most abysmal MG kits out there. There’s a reason it’s one of the cheapest kits, no one wants it.

How's MG F91?
I'm interested but it feels too small and plain.

>>23511381
It's good, got a lot of fun moving parts and applying dry transfers feels nice because they go on flat surfaces

>>23511381
It is as big as RG Sazabi. It is definitely still big, just not as gigantic as your typical early UC MG

>>23511394
I guess it's not so plain with all the decals

>>23511400
You should settle for Chinese OCs if you don't want plain looking robots.

>>23511400
imo having just shoulder decals is enough to make it come together nicely

>>23511401
There's always a middle ground, like that Sazabi in your pic

>5 MG + 1 SD on my backlog for 2025
>6 MG on my wishlist for 2026
nyoo... my money is gone...

who needs spoons when 30MM exists

>>23511381
It's one of my favorite kits I've built honestly. Light decals+topcoat really make it pop.

>>23511344
the front-skirt subarms are pure sex

i want to paint a part black and i also have a black primer
there is no point in painting black paint over the black primer right? or is there?

>>23511381
Surprisingly good, if we're talking about the 1.0, honestly I don't think it even needed the 2.0 its really good despite its age, but the 2.0 is a marked improvement and would recommend that one over the 1.0 if you're looking for an MG F91.

Also F91 so tiny, I never realizied just how smol he is, he's like HG nu gundam size.

>>23511407
Lol, RG Sazabi got greebled as shit. Mechs always look better when they look abit plain. Not literall blob kinda of plain, but keep the surface details to the moderate amount.

>>23511435
They work as test dummies but abit invasive since they are almost as big as average AU HGs.

>>23511467
Primer is usually matte finish wise. So if you want gloss you need to paint over it

>>23511500
Who cares about what you want, it's my toy and I will do whatever I want with it.

>>23511549
I will find your toys and cum on it. And you will sit there watching.

>>23511554
oh yeah, well I'll find his toys and lick your cum off.

>>23511086
Its caught my eye too, likley will grab it at some point. Possibly the Vampire mech from the same line too if it ever actually gets made

>>23511366
Try the RG, it’s brutal but looks pristine

>>23511563
Didn’t the Chinkinos find a way to upscale RG’s?

>>23511467
No, it looks fine with black primer

>>23511554
/gpg/ isn't really beating the gay allegations.

>>23511351
>>23511466
>Ippei Gyoubu designs an Advanced Hazel
also i just noticed the shield. the grenade launchers make it look silly lmao.

>>23511086
I'm getting this. Probably won't put most of the shit on it, the base unit itself looks good enough.

>>23511597
name?

>>23511605
Daiblos Core - Kishin Colada from Earnestcore Craft.

>>23511609
>10k yen

Lobster mode lol

Are the bootleg HG Efreet good? Might grab them all to learn some weathering or battle damage. Also is the exam version only available in metallic gloss color?

>>23511172
I think its about time for an RG 2.0 Zeta.

I just wish Bandai would give up on including transforming gimmicks. I just want a really fucking good Zeta kit that doesn't need to worry about accommodating the stupid Waverider mode.

>>23511626
Why? Theres nothing wrong with the 1985 version.

>>23511631
>I just want a really fucking good Zeta kit
Zeta Ver Ka already exists bro

propsperity upon the house of gyoubu

>I want it to respect the artist's artwork
>NO NOT LIKE THAT, IT'S TOO GREEBLED.

There really is no winning.

>>23511642
You can unironically throw any and all posts that say "greeble" in the trash.

>>23511618
Parts fitment issues but they're servicable with some cement. The Star Efreets have super tight joints while the XYS Nacht's arms tend to pop off from the shoulder joints which is super annoying during posing

>>23511642
>skinned Sazabi

>>23511642
That's not the right artist doe

I respect Zak's strength, but not his build critique and judging

>>23511642
That's the inner frame.

>>23511642
>Not by Izubuchi
Try harder

>>23511639
2012 has closed fist. 2017 has lego hands. Hmmm something went terribly wrong here.

>>23511659
30 minute brothers

>>23511642
Very nice, very cool. Now post the right artist.

>>23511685
2012 is the RG dipshit.

>>23511656
>>23511680
>>23511690
>>23511676
>That's not the right artist!
>Thats the innerframe!

Sounds like heavy coping.

>>23511645
You can't make me stop mocking Chang.

>>23511690
This looks bad though.

>>23511711
Sorry, Gyobuslurper, but Sazabi is Izubuchi's child.

Don't care.
I will NEVER buy a gbitch kit.
I will NEVER buy a gcucks kit.
I WILL buy more Wing kits.
I WILL buy more Seed kits.
I WILL buy more IBO kits.
I WILL buy X kits (when I'm in the mood for it).

>>23511634
>Theres nothing wrong with the 1985 version
Just needs the neck cutting off from the head and replacing with a decent balljoint tbf

>>23511636
This. It's solid, poses nicely, reasonably detailed, and is anime accurate outside of the vortex generators on the chest.

>>23511634
I can see some potential in 85 kit, but it still needs improvement in sculpture. Atleast try to catch up with the boomers.

>>23511748
I don't remember the Zeta having a horse face

>>23511748
I like the proportions and aesthetics of the RG way more than the MG ver ka.

>>23511752
The long face came from this head design Sunrise used as reference for the animation.

Perfection.

>>23511759
RGs aren't meant to be anime accurate. Liking it better is just preference.

>>23511759
we really do have some mentally handicapped people in this general

>>23511792
>I like A design more than B design
>durr, mental retardation?

Recently dug out an old MG Turn A and Victory-Dash from before I knew how to panel line correctly or apply decals well. Checked the Victory's box and found the decals decomposed.
Is there any good way of cleaning a lot of hard stuck on dust/air pollution (ultrasonic cleaner with pure water?) or should I just buy replacement kits to do correctly.

>>23511768
Good proportions for the Sazabi 2.0 MG

>>23511792
a lot of MG fans are demoralized because of the drip feed Bandai has done with the kits over the last decade, so they lash out at any perceived threat to the MG line

>>23511752
The Gundam Lindwurn has a smaller Zeta face that is a good replacement for the Zeta Ver Ka longface

>>23511659
>males
Disguisting

>>23510698
It is, but still!
>>23510703
Oh. Well, I guess that fixes everything! I don't know why the preorder price for it is so expensive compared to other EGs though. Are we even getting beam sabers?

>>23510934
I should really look into koto girlpla but they're expensive. I should just pick a favorite and get just that, I think. But so many of them look good!
>>23511189
Oh.

>>23511827
not a fan of it. it's kinda like how RG Nu looks off because it doesn't have the iconic long face.

>>23511005
Just learn to make your own enamel washes. 5:1 mineral spirits to enamel paint, drip it on top of a gloss coat and clean up after it dries.

>>23511822
MG got abit too romanticized by alot of anons here. All i care about is big models with more defined sculpt. MG, Non Grade, Re100, whatever, just make them big.

>>23511849
It doesn't look like that in the lineart though.

>>23511153
It's more likely that Chang will make a kit based on the Metal RD like they did with the Hi-Nu and Destiny than Bandai touching this thing, especially in 1/100.

>>23511752
It's because you're a contrarian retard.

>>23511870
Its proportions are surprisingly lanky here. Though I'm not sure if lanky is the word I want to use.

>>23511885
Most of the original lineart & animation had awful inconsistent scale and yeah they often looked stretched or lanky. The same person could draw the same unit 5 times and each time something would be different about it. It's why the lineart & anime accuracy retards are so annoying to listen to. Even when something is as accurate as possible, they'll still find something to cry about because being a miserable fuck is their whole personality.

>That will be 60 bucks + shipping.

This is criminal.

>>23511634
I just built that one, it wasn't fun. The kits before snapfit parts are a pain.

>>23511898
" Lineart accuracy " is abit disingenious as a discussion. What people most of the time wanted to say is how they expect modelkits to deliver the best traits from the lineart to the kit. HG Reben Wolf is one of those case where you wish they had done it closer to the lineart, you don't expect everything to look the same, but the head design is such a huge missed opportunity.

>>23511898
I'm not saying it negatively, just generally. I'm reminded of the G-Saviour designs, though of course this came first. Also reminds me somewhat of anon's RX-78-2 for the groupbuild with human arms and legs.

>>23511626
>Zeta RG 2.0
I think Bandai will definitely go bulky with the proportions, after all the complaints about the fragility of the 1.0

>>23511920
It looks nice for being 40 years old tho. Didn't realize they had that kind of mould quality back then.

>>23511950
Good, Zeta should have some meat on its bones.

>>23511970
Looks subpar compares to what came several years prior. 1977 kit btw.

>>23511970
Molds are almost literally ancient technology. What's newer is injecting multiple colors to get parts separation into a singular part. I think a lot of people are under the impression that bandai invented the wheel when they made the wheel fancier, maybe more efficient at best.

>>23512014
The British invented this wheel. But not many people here want to talk about it.

>>23512014
>maybe more efficient at best
lmao. No idea why this board has such a problem admitting that Bandai has had a massive impact on model kit tech. Making an accurate mould is much easier when the kit is static. It becomes substantially more difficult when it has to also have a wide range of articulation and snap fit.

>>23512017
>Frog Penguin
>isn't a frog
>isn't a penguin
What is their fucking problem?

>>23511153
0
stop asking

>>23512032
>Making an accurate mould is much easier when the kit is static. It becomes substantially more difficult when it has to also have a wide range of articulation and snap fit.
They couldn't make it accurate when their kits had as much articulation as a Tamiya tank. If anything, Bandai learnt from Tamiya alot on how to make their models look more detailed and sharper.
>Articulation
Action figures and transforming toys exist outside of Bandai's influences. Articulated modelkits just use them as a basis.

>>23512046
Wow, you're telling me that the comapny that had less experience had to learn from the company with more experience. Crazy revelation there.
>Action figures and transforming toys exist outside of Bandai's influences.
We're talking about model kits, not toys. Of course articulating toys exist, they're much easier to make compared to something that is split into hundreds of small parts that have to fit together with pressure alone.

>>23512032
>It becomes substantially more difficult when it has to also have a wide range of articulation and snap fit.
I dunno man, injection molding parts has been around for a long time. Kind of how a shit ton of machines are made.

>>23512042
Bandai are lucky the Chinese haven't figured out that all their kits don't need to come with 47 spikes.

>>23512054
>they're much easier to make compared to something that is split into hundreds of small parts that have to fit together with pressure alone.
Snapfit is not something Bandai invented. Lego did ( alledgedly idk ) and arguably what taught Bandai how to make their kits in the first place.

>>23512057
>I dunno man, injection molding parts has been around for a long time.
I never said it didn't. I'm saying people here can't admit the influence bandai has had specifically on the model kit industry. Saying Bandai made things more efficient at best is insane.
>Kind of how a shit ton of machines are made.
Sorry, I forgot about all the snapfit machinery out there. Brb, gonna go snapfit my new lawnmower.

>>23512063
>Snapfit is not something Bandai invented.
And I never said they did but they're absolutely the best producer of snap kit models by far and they have introduced the most innovations to that sector.

>>23512063
It's incredibly disingenuous to compare snapfit model kits to legos.

>>23512066
>Brb, gonna go snapfit my new lawnmower.
They essentially are. No glue required, you just pin the parts with rivets.

>>23512073
They are pretty much 2 sides of the same coins. Alot of models are still using ABS.

>>23512080
It's incredibly disingenuous to compare bricks to gunpla since the gunpla has to be engineered on every level to fit together well and articulate and the bricks are just bricks rearranged into different static shapes.

>>23512042
>pisses off the b*ndai paypiggies
kek, based golden warrior

>>23512083
Then you haven't touch enough lego lol. They do have articulated parts, especially robot and characters. If you count their distant cousin, Bionicles then they are just 1 step away from becoming snapfit modelkits. Assembly toys were what caused the creation of snapfit plamo, something children and newcomers can approach without blinding themselves with superglue.

Are we still pretending gunpla AREN'T toys?

>>23512097
Literally no one has said that.

Disappointing piece of shit

>>23512103
It's basically just a blocky Zaku. MG when?

>>23512106
MG Hizack exists. Bandai can just reuse that and slap some new armor parts on. But with the current phase, probably never ever.

>>23512054
The only influence bandai has had is the popularisation of articulated mecha kits and the way that they're engineered. Otherwise when it comes to molding tech bandai is just repurposing existing tech from other industries (multicolour from toy+packaging) or what was started to be adopted at the same time (slide molding)

>>23512103
weird how this thing had a bootleg announced like an year ago
I think it must've been shitcanned

>>23512116
It has such a wacky engineering. The upper body is tight and rock solid. But the bottom half uses floppy polycaps that you cannot do anything about it. One of the kit that angers me.

>>23512121
For as much as I don't think Bandai gets credit for things they should, they make an equal amount of decisions that make very little sense. This kit having polycaps when we know they're capable of making HGs without them is one of those decisions. The new Zirius kit is the same, it uses polycaps and has a bunch of hollow parts.

>>23512130
Polycaps is a budget cut. They generally have better fitment due to the material being rubbery soft. But as a result, very rare for a kit with pc joints to be rock solid.

>>23512130
After seeing it had polycaps and may have a breakage issue on the hip it kinda killed any desire to buy it. I love the Zirius's design but it's reminding me of how halfassed the Tristan kit was all those years ago.

>>23512130
>bunch of hollow parts
Any reports of breakage?

>>23512144
MechaGaikotsu did a video on it and one of his hip joints snapped. He was able to fix it but he it happened after reposing it like twice.

>>23512103
I like mine. No real issues.

>>23512149
Let's be real, Gaikotsu is not a very bright example on how to handle a kit.

>>23512138
I would have been with you in the past on it being a budget thing but it's $36/¥2970. We've had recent HG kits around the same price that didn't use polycaps or have hollow parts. Granted, this kit has a bit more plastic than the usual HG and it's thankfully sticker free other than the usual green camera stickers and the eyes.

>>23512144
The hollow parts are on the optional armour pieces for the light armour mode.

>>23512155
true and yet he doesn't actually break many kits so might be something wrong

>>23512155
Given he couldn't find anyone else with the issue, I'm betting it was just a QC issue with an air bubble stuck in that area. He didn't show the runner, but I bet those parts are near the end of that part of the mold's flow path so it would get pushed along.

>>23512160
I'm not talking about the kit's price, it is just Bandai being greedy piece of shit. They want to make cheap to produce kits and sell them with above average price, too.

>>23512155
>gunpla meli video review of the HG Master Gundam
>she fucking breaks his face on camera by not knowing how to handle it
trannykotsu and her are the reason I don't watch kit "reviewers" anymore. When I want to check if a kit is nice or not, I go on dalong or watch a speed build on mute.

zakuaurelius breaks kits too

>>23512182
He breaks alot of 1/1 perfect grade human.

MG Spoon friends...

>>23512191
Finally, spoon is plamo officially.

>>23512191
>>23512194
https://figsoku.net/blog-entry-475448.html

Have the Zhangs developed any polycaps that are more durable than the Bandai provided ones?

>>23512194
I bought that angel. She cute.

>>23512199
>>23512194
cute

>>23512203
chang will sometimes undercut corporate greed by providing a higher quality product - sometimes out of spite. bandai's goals are typically profit at the end of the day hence why they still produce low quality shit like RG Akatsuki. Or why new MGs don't come with the extra pilot figure any longer.

>>23512191
way too much greeble. doesn't respect the artist's wishes at all.

>>23512233
A complete violation of the lineart, much less the animation.

>>23512233
>>23512251
It looks different in every scene. Give them a bit of liberty in bringing it to the 3D space.

>>23512233
if these were aoz you'd pogface at it

>>23512191
New Amplified spoons?

>>23512058
Kekw

>>23512103
>P Bandai exclusive
>$100 + scalper tax
Fuck, thats a nice looking Zak though.

>>23512103
Mine is fine, idk what your problem is

>>23512382
"Mine is fine", said the guy who likes spaghetti

anything good?

>>23512393
Alot of slops there

>>23512393
i started swinging at my screen uncontrolably

>>23512393
Everything you like

>>23512393
I would grab that mgex,.

>>23512423
Where'd you get the-o at?

>>23512434
gundamextra. I think east coast stores will probably be getting their stock over the week so if you want one then I'd keep an eye out there

>>23512439
I preordered mine from USAGS so that checks out. Thanks for the info.

>>23512393
RG Zeong is great.

this is not a very good gunpla year

>>23512477
Last good Gunpla year was 2018. 2019, max.

>>23512393
anything from Seed

Aside from G Gundam, what's a kit that doesn't exist, but everyone wants?

>>23511379
IME, the leg frame pieces got stress marks and the v-fin broke just from snapping them off the sprews, the feet never went together correctly, the pegs for connecting the upper torso to the core fighter on mine were flat-out missing, and the backpack never went on right either

>>23511470
The 1.0 already had a complete inner frame, the old school elbow rotation joint, and you could separate the fingers on the hands to be individually articulated

>>23512393
Hyaku Shiki 2.0, and Gundam 3.0 are some of the best MGs

RG Zeong is a great kit

PGU Gundam is expensive but the current pinnacle of bandai's engineering.

>>23512501
Personal taste: Xeku Zwei, Queen Mantha, Nero, Nouvel GM, Zolo.

>>23512477
It's been a great plamo year. Sorry for all the bandaibabies, it must be hard only getting 1 good model a year lol

>>23512501
Noin's Taurus. Any modern Big Zam release.

>>23512501
Virgo

Who the fuck shipped that shit like that? Chinks are like that retarded? Did you pay 2$ shipping or some shit? Did you miraculous built the chink kshatriya?

>>23512523
Postal workers are humans too and they also want a piece of that snap action

>>23512527
Yes I know that but that kshatriya came in chink walmart bags or some shit

>>23512511
Fingers on the F91? Those must be tiny.

>>23512523
theres the possibility they changed the packaging to lie to customs so they can pocket some of the import tax money

>>23512540
I thought people stopped being able to do that like 10 yesrs ago when they started tracking everything

>>23512501
>>23512501
Anything from Gaia Gear.

>>23512501
Ex-S Ver Ka.

>>23512501
Master grade zok

>>23512501
RG hyaku shiki

>>23512544
thats why some of the shipping says no box
it makes tracking difficult when the invoice says ""sprues for repair"" and the box is a bunch of plastic sprues

>>23512501
PG GM

>>23512501
PGU Sazabi

>>23512560
it will happen eventually

>>23512564
Right after RG Zeta 2.0 and The O for sure.

>>23512563
I don't want this.

>>23512564
*monskey's paw's finger curls
Granted, but it's (at the least) as bad as the RG Akatsuki

>>23512501
i feel like anything AoZ would be welcomed here
i want more MAs. maybe even the ships.
a 1/3000 of gadelaza would be nice, it would be like 10cm long

>>23512570
You do, your wallet is just protesting.

>>23512573
Bandai is dumb but I don't think they're dumb to the point of messing up one of the most beloved Char suits.

>>23512199
>>23512194
>>23512191
oh yeah im getting this

BR anon here.
Kits still cost double here because of super import taxes.
Next year we have presidential elections so the government might offer temporary discounts or incentives, making kits more accessible.

>>23512501
OZ-12SMS Taurus and some other tako units from the universe that haven't been made yet. Also an Geara Zulu MG would be nice and some aerial zaku from UC. Also official MG Kshatriya and could be a PG Z'Gok

>>23512625
>PG Z'Gok
Sorry I meant to say PG Zok

Kino.

Cringe.

are there any alternative parts I could buy for these. I'm not really a zeon suit design style fan so I've never encountered them before

>>23512636 >>23512645
these are cringe
this >>23512194 is kino

>>23512103
I like it, except for the straight pegs in the biceps. Probably my favorite Zaku-esque kit to date

>>23512621
>the government might offer temporary discounts or incentives,
You know damn well the current administration won't do this. Your only way out is to not vote for the Worker's Party. Again.

>MG Mk-V will arrive tomorrow
FUCK YEAH!

>>23512719
>MG Mk-V arrived today
Into the box fort.

>MG zaku I conversion kit arrives thursday
What color do I paint it? I am leaning heavily towards Ramba Rals zaku.

>>23512636
>plain simplistic designs are cool too!
>now pay the peeb tax for it

>>23512501
MG Leo

>>23512727
does it have the right chest bit to be Rals zaku 1?

>>23512671
I don't mind the biceps having extra rotation. Easier to pose. If you hate them, just keep them in place.

>>23512736
It's a GTO zaku I but I could just modify the chest to have the little doodads and add a commander fin.

>>23512631
No you misread why you want a pg of a 4secs appearance Zok

>>23512757
might want to get rid of the chest vent/verniers and will need a second shoulder pad but should be close enough

>>23512857
I can scavenge and modify the other shoulder from the base zaku kit if they're similar enough.
My plan is either that, or just painting it Chars colors. That will require a lot less custom work. I will decide once I have everything fit to the frame and know how much more work I feel like putting into it.

>>23510985 (OP)
Kpop demon hunter x 30MS when? And DX saingeom sword too.
Since Kpop demon hunter is more popular than demon slayer in Japan, Bandai shall make Kpop demon hunter plamodel and toys. And Bandai must make solo leveling plamodel of Sung Jin Woo HGWT, DX Sung jin woo blade and talking Igrit doll.

>>23512650
Yeah, metal ones on a spring. Your local hobby shop should have them.

>>23512501
MG The O Ver.ka

>>23512903
Back to /toy/ with you, gook

>>23512923
30MS is plamodel and therefore /m/.

>>23512923
More /m/ then that unko plamodel which pajeets would love at least.

>>23512904
I should replace the pipes of my kits with these.

>23512903
I like my gook slop as much as the next guy, but fuck off.

>>23512932
30ms x KDH and HGWT sung jin woo plamodel will solve Gunpla stock issue, as Japanese kids would like Solo leveling and KDH plamodel and it would relieve gunpla scarcity.

>>23512501
Zeong could use a new MG to put next to the MG 3.0 RX-78

The RG showed just how much potential there is in Zeong, and the current MG is ancient.

>>23512937
I have one arriving this month. I'll post about how well it holds up then. A lot of kits from its time are very good.

>>23512932
They look so much better, also paint them with a colored clear coat to keep the original colors.

>>23512937
Zeong should have gotten its 2.0 when the Zaku II and Gelgoog got theirs. It's long overdue

>>23512939
Keep me posted, if you have a MG 3.0 Gundam show how they pair. I have a feeling MG Zeong would need a lot of custom work to look good next to the 3.0

But the RG 2.0 and RG Zeong pair nicely.

>>23512949
I do but it's very poorly built and dusty. I can post them together but keep that in mind.

>>23512393
Cool to see a mega size; but otherwise, not much.

>open China GBWC
>look inside
>it's just diorama

>>23512998
In an attempt to stand out form one another, they all end up blending together.

>>23512501
>HGAW/MG Virsago/Chestbreak
>HGAW/MG Ashtaron
>HGAC/MG Hydra

>>23512945
The Zaku 2.0 is so disappointing, you can't pose it without having to put it back together. Looser than a $10 lot lizard. Which sucks because it has fucking amazing panels and articulation.

>>23512587
it will reuse the RG Zeta joints because gotta keep up the lore accuracy.

>>23512998
pass a link

>>23512998
GBWC has always been about the dioramas in combination with the mobile suit than just the mobile suit on it's own. Literally every single nominee from last year's finals has a custom diorama.

>>23512998
can't blame them because judging at GBWC changed to discourage extensive kitbashing of gunpla to the point it becomes unrecognizable blobs. 2013 will always be my benchmark on what a good GBWC champion looks like.

>>23513059
nice longsnap

Just got my GFRED and retail box Heavyarms Custom

>>23513074
The heavyarms is a fun quick build. Enjoy anon.

>>23512501
RG Ex-S would sell out immediately and crash HLJ. It would be another RG Hi-Nu situation all over again

>>23513079
NTA, would you say the Heavyarms is a good kit to customize? I've been looking for something to break up my routine of ground gundams/gms and zakus/goufs.

Here's your guntank

>>23513145
Yes, it's a great kit to customize. A ton of the 30mm stuff fits really well, you can even modify the HGCE and P-bandai striker packs to fit on the model with nothing more than a hobby knife.
It looks awesome with the good custom Gatling gun too.
Good luck anon, happy building.

new mini 4wd leaked with an all-new chassis

>>23513191
Actually, here's your Guntank.

>>23513255
sir this is anti air.

>>23512904
do the metal sets also account for the slightly narrower ones

>>23513297
i bought replacements for my gouf's pipes on aliexpress and those had a bunch of different sizes so i assume probably

>Metal frame for Unicorn came in
>Bonus pack-in metal horns are only for Unicorn mode, Banshee, and Phenix
>Metal frame parts are chrome-colored/polished, not the gunmetal shown in the picture.
Paint the frame or nah? Going to be in a Full Armor in Destroy mode.

>>23513191
the fuck? they put a nix walker upper body on a mini truck? why? i mean it's cool but why?

>>23510989
Painted the Purple gradient on the HIV's funnels. Turned out better than I was expecting. I thinned the hell out of the paint and ran our them a dozen times to keep the gradient from looking speckled.

>>23513446
Looks good and mostly even across all of them. Nice job.

>>23513257
>The Type 87 Self-propelled Anti-aircraft Gun (87式自走高射機関砲, 87-shiki jisō kōsha kikanhō) is a Japanese air defense weapon built around the Oerlikon 35 mm twin cannon system as used on the Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft gun. The system uses a modified Type 74 tank chassis. It is also nicknamed by field officers as "Guntank" after the similar-looking mecha in the Mobile Suit Gundam series.

>>23513446
That's a nice purple

>>23511597
I really like the look of this but the cost plus shipping plus sales tax plus tariffs plus tip is going to be a real bitch

>>23513446
smooth as fuck
are you going to edge highlight the darker sections?

>>23513446
good job anon

>>23512501
Virgola Glory

here's your chang gunpla btw

>>23513505
>Bandai releasing kits entirely in Chinese now
It's Joever, /m/ros. They are slowly overtaking us in the culture war.

P-Bandai US closing up shop soon.

>>23513440
Post a pic of yours. Mine came in last week and it's gunmetal, like in the pictures.

It's been an excellent support for the boxfort so far.

>>23511500
>keep the surface details to the moderate amount
To a minimum, you mean.

>>23513543
I think there should be some amount of surface detail on a model. The lineart of a mech is usually more detailed than the animation version.

>>23512501
Megas XLR

>>23513469
fugg I asked in the wrong thread

>>23513505
>the kungfu bot released by kungfu land
KINO

Who is the best Chinkpla company? So far I've tried SNAA Gawain and Orange Cat's Estailev Neamhain, both were pretty good for the low price. The designs were also more relevant to my tastes compared to the usual spiky Chinkshit.

>finally get time to do some snapping
>hands are sweaty AND cold at the same time
I'm gonna kill myself

>>23513579
Hurry up and get your parts ready so you can start painting.

>>23513581
i'm not in a painting mood right now that's why i'm snapping
i usually assemble the kit and have it sitting within sight for a few weeks or even a month before i decide on how to paint it

>>23513505
Wait what, this is real? Since when does China get region exclusive kits?

>>23513589
just now. They're also reprinting the Build Fighter kits with china exclusive manual and texts

How do you guys prefer to do shading
I'm trying to do some preshading with a deep black over gray primer but the basecoats will all be dark hues and I feel like it'll get covered up easily
Also I get terrible atomization if I drop below like 20 PSI but everyone I see talking about it is painting way lower than that

>>23513596
I do the opposite of shading I start with the dark colors and add white to accentuate the highlights

>>23513505
plot twist: this is supposed to be the caravan-exclusive kit that's usually given away at events, but Bandai decided to sell it to chinks instead.

>>23513596
i'm a lazy asshole so i just do flat paint and then use weathering to fake shading

>>23513505
>china gets an exclusive mold
>again
I'm tired

>>23513613
it won't be for long
this will be bootlegged and easily available through ali within half a year

>>23513562
>I think there should be some amount of surface detail on a model.
You can think that, you'd just be wrong.

>>23513623
>china gets an exclusive mold just for them
>they bootleg it and sell it to gweilos
It's like poetry or something

>>23513596
zenithal shading
>paint everything darker than it should be
>spray diluted white at a certain angle, never changing it. this emulates the light source hitting the object.
>spray diluted blue/black at the opposite angle, simulating shadows

>>23513045
It was incredible for its time, but yeah it hasn't aged well. I remember when it came out people here were saying it was one of the best kits.

>>23513647
As many issues as that kit and its derivatives have, it's still a great build experience.

>>23513596
60 psi all day every day

>airbrush highlights
zeninthal or directional highlights over a contrasting shadow looks pretty nice. dark colored primers other than black are great for this, but there is something very lazy about it too. for the truly lazy, do this with only rattle cans.

>washes
oil washes are something I've only recently tried. I don't think I have them down yet but they look super good when they are done right
acrylic washes stain a lot and the capillary action is much worse, great for shading, shit for panel lining
alcohol inks I have no clue what to do with. they stain a lot, flow like shit, and make acrylic paint peel

>brush techniques
layering to build up to a strong color with extreme edge highlights is tedious but is a timeless classic technique for a reason

>dipping
the forbidden technique! needs trial and error to get the dip thinned properly and to not shake too much off after.

>>23513505
The shoulders and head look better than the HG, but it's probably going to be a grenade like the rest of Strike EGs.

>>23513505
The shin parts are just one piece each, so it won't be compatible with Star Build Strike parts.
Why even bother, then?

>>23513589
They get some exclusive special colour but this is a first for an actual kit I guess.

>>23512501
MG Hygogg

>>23513661
Probably made in China like EX standard and SDW.

>>23513473
>are you going to edge highlight the darker sections?

I don't think I'll have much choice given how dark the purple is, a lot of detail just vanishes. I have a few purple test parts I'm trying different things on but basically, yes..

>>23513679
I want all the water boys in MG.

>>23512423
Brother!

>>23513632
This would look like shit on a gunpla kit. You put an HG painted like that on a shelf and it'll look like you fucked up a diorama and scrapped it halfway through.

The painting techniques used for minis are generally not applicable to scale models and vice versa. It's why the first piece of advice for every Tau player in 40k is to buy an airbrush, because if you try to paint a crisis suit like you would a guardsman it'll look like hot ass. The purpose of
>this emulates the light source hitting the object.
is because minis are mostly very small and normal lighting conditions are more likely to drown out details than accentuate them and so you have to basically fake your own lighting. Gunpla don't have this problem, they're large enough to still show lots of detail and create natural shadows in crevices, so most gunpla shading techniques try to supplement what exists instead of creating shadows from nothing. You CAN do shit like that with gunpla and it can look great, but the vast majority of painters aren't going for that look at all. If you've got any kits you've done with that technique then I'd be happy to see what they look like, though.

>>23513709
Worked for this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_2S8Gz_FWQ

>>23513709
>the first piece of advice for every Tau player in 40k is to buy an airbrush
zenithal is mostly an airbrush technique...

I think the larger problem is that it would look really bad the moment it's posed differently than how it was painted, whereas a lighting-neutral paint method like pillow shading would still look good in any pose.

just do highlighting like a normal person

>>23513706
lol im also the one working on their mk2 right now too. Will be doing elbows (biceps/forearms are done, I'm just waiting on the elbow joint to seam fill to do that), waist, and magnetizing the weapons later today.

>>23513727
NTA, but an anon with experience in wargaming: I don't know about "mostly" but it certainly is exclusively an air-painting technique. I mean I guess you could try hand-doing it but the whole point is emulating primary source lighting easily. Rattlecan primer is extremely common in the miniworld though since one big ole rattlecan of overpriced GW primer is a few boxes of minis anyways and handpainting is the norm for everything (even Tau regardless of what advice he's hearing) with airbrushing being relatively uncommon. It's almost the inverse of gunpla, but I think even less people brushpaint gunpla than people who airbrush 40k stuff. There are a lot of minis that are absolutely better airbrushed (especially the tanks of most factions) but it's kinda an investment for models that still want a lot of hand painted details anyways 9 times out of 10.

The beauty of zenithal is the simplicity of it and the ease with which it can uniformly express lighting across a whole army and tie them together. It's also particularly easy for minis because they are static and will never be posed in other ways, like you said.

>>23513744
Oooh, are those plaplate greebles and custom scribbed panel lines? I'm interested in how it turns out, its looking very nice. I love Gryps era MS designs.

I'm still waiting on my Hyaku Shiki 2.0 to arrive, I haven't ordered the Zeta Ver.Ka yet but I plan on doing soon. I couldn't find one in stock.

>>23513746
>but it's kinda an investment
>implying the tank doesn't cost more than your whole airbrush setup

>>23513709
It's an airbrush technique to begin with.

It would look fine, as long as the model is glued into a pose permanently, such as how you would do for a diorama.

>>23513750
Depends honestly, there's a large secondhand 40k market which is how many people who couldn't otherwise afford to actually get shit. It is, quite frankly, also an investment that isn't worth it for a lot of people because they'd rather pay for the tank than the airbrush and just keep painting the way they know how anyways. Airbrushing is a small hobby unto itself and again, can't do 90% of the work like it can for gunpla. It's more like it can do about 75% of the work on maybe 10% of your army. Lots of people don't even like the painting side at all and just turn in minimum effort (or none but usually people get pressured into painting a scheme for themselves, usually).

>>23513749
Yeah, I got sick of practicing on scrap kits so this kit will be my first full kit that I'm doing it for. Mainly just winging it and borrowing patterns from existing work that I've seen. I'm not sure what I'll do after this but the Rick Dias is calling me and I want to try and make it into something that will stand fairly in line with the mk 2 when done and the zeta ver ka. Ver ka is great btw. Big fan of the proportions and I wish I had gotten it sooner. Also have the clear version of the shiki 2.0 being boat shipped right now because I didn't want to strip the coating.

How DOES bandai do the multiple colors on a single runner thing? I've never seen that from any other company yet they do it even on the cheapest most throwaway entry grade kits.

>>23513765
Look up multi injection molding.

>>23513746
I wrote "mostly" because I've seen people try to do zenithal with drybrushing or sponges, and rattlecans are common too. I also paint miniatures, though not as regularly anymore and I'd rather not think about the size of that backlog. Please don't buy the 50 dollars a can games workshop rattle cans.

I have a bunch of space marines I did a zenithal base coat on recently and while I was really pleased at first I'm so temped now to strip them and start over. On the other hand, I've had these models unpainted to 6 years and they are never going to be done if I keep going like this...

>>23513760
these days even "pro painted" ebay warhammer models are expensive. What's the point in paying 60% of MSRP when you've got to put in more work to strip the models and clean up mistakes?

>>23513765
they have gates in the mold they can use to control the flow, swap out sections, or have multiple injections. I think the poseable parts that use similar manufacturing to ball valves are really really cool.

>>23513765
my guess is the machine's injection control somehow extends into the molds or is included as part of the mold designs allowing them to ensure the plastic from the Yellow Section doesn't enter the Red Section, then the Red Section gets injected once the Yellow Section has solidified and so on

>>23513770
I mean you don't buy the "pro painted" shit. You can still go find people cashing out of the hobby because baby/GW bad/the meta shifted. People playing the game will cut deals outside the hobby store all the time if you talk and meet with them, anyone deep in 40k has shit lying around they were totally gonna do something with or got as a prize or whatever. I'm not saying you can always get everything you want for cheap but if you sit around on FB marketplace and be around in whatever local community there is you'll find shit for deals instead of GW prices.
Personally I don't play much of it anymore, only Battletech now really. The GW rattlecans were always a ripoff. I've pretty much just been using Mr Surfacer for everything for about a decade at this point.

How do you guys paint and detail the inner frames of stuff like MGs and PGs? Do you even bother? Does painting them fuck up the articulation? I was thinking about just hitting it with a coat or two of black gloss primer and calling it a day there, scared that if I layered up too much paint it'd just cause problems.

>>23513505
Who cares, all these strike variants look identical

>>23513797
i actually paint them to tighten the joints of frames that would be otherwise a hand grenade without it. just don't do multiple layers so they don't get too thick. most painters i know only does one coat, or sometimes just straight gunmetal primer and leave it at that.

>>23513797
I hit mine with Mr. Surfacer 1500 black and then drybrush some metallics on that to make the details pop a bit. I might hand paint a few details but mostly leave it at that. Painting them actually makes them tighter and less fiddly, which is a good thing.

>Daban Hyaku Shiki comes with parts for the Ballute System, MP Kai variant and the Super Mega Extra Huge Dab Dab Nigger Launcher
How come no one told me this before? Shame they skipped out on the Kai backpack parts to round out the whole package though.

>>23513797
On MGs it's usually a nonissue, dunno about PGs.
I just blast the frame with Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black and then drybrush gunmetal just like >>23513809, then detail some of the molded on visible details like pipes

>>23513797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2W8w_LnTc

>>23513505
Unironically why they choose Build series for attracting Chinese market? Also are they catering to Chinese market because of burger tariffs or trying to push them away from bootleg?

>>23513866
chinks like SEED stuff, and Build Strike is based on a SEED suit.

>>23513866
Build Fighters is basically an advertisement for Gunpla itself with a meta story narrative. It is a gateway for new fans to enjoy gunpla and gundam without having to pirate 10 different shows for homework. Also, the Chang literally worship SEED, so selling a custom Strike Gundam is just common sense.

>>23513866
a) changs love SEED
b) changs love martial arts
Build Strike is both

>>23513811
?
we had a lengthy conversation about Daban Hyaku Shiki in the previous thread bro

>>23513866
>Also are they catering to Chinese market because of burger tariffs
Poltards like you should just fuck off. Gundam has always been a king in China.

Imagine wasting 20,000 Yen on gunpla gacha and only got the shit reward. gacha is such a scam.

I wonder how much will this cost in comparison to the moedroid kit

>>23513905
>spent 20k
>got 5.8k worth of gunpla

>>23513905
That's 1k per roll, which is fine really

why the hell does mg char's gelgoog not come with the normal head part without the antenna?

>>23513505
So it's a FG disguised as an EG.

>>23513891
Yeah because every single one of use 4chan 24/7 because we have no life. This discussion was 10 years ago bro, use the archive.

>>23513460
>They nicknamed the Gepard "guntank"
Well they can go to hell.

>>23513927
>>23499437

>>23513932
The thread is dead, let it go.

>>23513925
>Hideous box hands
>They can't even rotate now
Bandai is confirmed full of mentally ill.

>>23513939
>Can't even rotate the hands
Wasn't there an anon in this thread or the previous proclaiming how amamzing bandai's engineering is and how much they've contributed to the world?

>>23513925
It's vintage-esque, philistine like you wouldn't get it.

>>23513942
There's always some bandaibaby sucking their cock in every thread

>>23513946
I have a handful of vintage kit and they are posable. Or with static kits, the fixed poses look good.

>>23513925
>Bandai shills furiously typing "So what bro just mod the hands and paint it and mod the skirts and mod the saber it's no big deal bro just do all the work that should be base-standard yourself bro"

>>23513957
But anon! Military boomers sculpt entire cockpits out styrene blocks all the time! If it has too many features out of the box it's a bad model kit!

>>23512501
Perfect Grade and/or Mega Size GM

I want grunt suits in military model scales like 1/35, 1/48 and 1/72

picture of the chinkified Build kits.

>>23513925
I would accept this if it was like FG and they actually made kits of every noname AU mook fucking ever that would never get a kit but they won't so this is just retarded bullshit
can't believe bandai made even worse hands, actually the greatest joke on me

>Bandai figured it out how to make these box hands unremovable now
Ooohh boy...

>>23513975
Yeah no, i'm fine with RE100 and FM for no name mooks and obscure grunts. Atleast their box hands look decent enough to forgive.

>>23512501
HG Sisquiede
HG Virgo
RG Master Gundam
MG Doven Wolf

>>23512719
>Mk-V arriving today
The time has come and so have I

>>23512756
I don't mind the extra rotation but I had a problem on my Hobby Hi-Zack specifically where the upper arms loosened and fell off from gravity. Haven't had that issue on my Custom (I have both) but I'm more wary of posing that one since the arm pegs seem kind of short for the connection

>>23513974
>no X Maoh
>even Chinks don't like the X

>less posability
bandai caters to REALMODELERS now

>>23513925
It is not EG, just " 1/144 scale ". Non grade if you want to call it that.

What's everyone's favorite Zaku?

And by that I mean MS that has the classic Zaku head and overall shape remeniscent of the Zaku, mono eye, boxy vent mouth. Zeta Zaku doesn't count, but I'd count Goufs as a Zaku here despite Ramba Ral's protestation to the contrary.

For me its the Zaku II FZ

>>23513986
I wouldn't have issues with it if the hands weren't those fucking boxes again.

>>23513988
tieren
if that doesn't count then police zaku
yes i hate zaku

>Non Grade
>Unremovable box hands, they are static too btw
>Minimal articulation, yet still looking like a happymeal toy
This is it. This is Bandai's magnum opus.

>>23513994
I'd say they both count.

>>23513988
AOZ Hi Zack

>>23513988
For me, Geara Doga is still the best looking Zaku has ever been.

>>23513988
zeta hizack

>>23513988
Hi-Zack Custom

>>23513988
For me it's Zaku Sniper and Zaku Cannon. Dozle Zaku as honorable mention.
As for FZ I like it in the animation and the line art, but in a kit form it just doesn't hit the spot for some reason

>The box hand and the forearm are molded as a singular piece
Ok, which genius at Bandai greenlit this shit?

>>23513978
RE100 will never give us the absolutely never-evers like SEED's FG line gave. No other line's gonna make a fuckin ZuOOT or GOOhN anymore. Ultra-simplistic construction isn't that bad if it's a well molded kit without the insane cutaways of the EG line. I would buy some Pisces and Virgos if they were cheap kits like this, or all the X MS like Rasveht and G-Bits, whatever.

>>23514010
Never sell your soul to the devil, anon. Don't wish for something that you can't even modify to improve just because your favourite obscure robots don't have kits. Plenty of vintage kits exist, yet not many people huntdown the remaining copies. Always dream bigger.

>>23514009
it's payback against the chinese

>>23513988
>>23514001
same, Geara Doga is perfection.
I really like the random Crossbone Zaku though too.

>>23513988
In no particular order? Zaku II F2, AOZ Hi-Zack and AOZ Zaku III. luv me squinty bastards

can't believe people buy big glass display cases just for snapshits

>>23514013
You can modify this to improve it though. It's like the old LM or EG kits, or magazine options like Sword Calamity/Rasiel/Wagtail but with generally better molding. We have lots of options for joint and hand transplants if it means we get cool shit molded for cheap. Doesn't mean that though so oh well.

>>23513974
>literal press conference outdoors
What the fuck?

>>23514020
You betcha. Even got my old gouged and horribly nub cleaned kits in there from years ago :)

>>23514022
>cool shit molded for cheap
I don't think I'm quite understanding how this makes the end product cheaper.

>>23513988
Does the Messer count? If not Geara Doga.

>>23514009
seeing how the gun is also in one piece (the other side is hollow), it's probably meant to be a workshop kit, but Bandai had the genius idea to sell it to the chinks instead. >>23513607

>>23514043
Bandai can slip this "technology" into every other grades at any momment. This is such a dangerous precedent

>>23514042
How accurate is the wikishit in regards to development? It claims it was developed from the Doga.

>>23513536
I did check the eBay listing. It was shiny, in every picture past the first two. Looked decent on Unicorn mode Unicorn.

husky little fella

bought these guys to practice non-parts-separated hand painting but i'm thinking i should've gotten one of the variants that aren't all one color, just to make it a bit easier to tell the details

>>23514047
That's how it worked in the Giren's Ambition games at least.

>be EG
>supposed to be cheap but good 1/144 scale kits
>no fucking EG zaku
What the FUCK is wrong with bandai? You'd think it would the most obvious MS to be turned into an EG kit and would incentivize multiple repeat purchases for army building of THE grunt MS in the series but we still dont have it. WHAT THE FUCK

>>23514064
yeah, they basically did it with the Leo and Windam already (they're EGs in all but name)

>>23514047
The HG manual said it so it is definitely canon.

>>23514047
the name Geara Doga keeps making me thinking of that dumb KARA BOGA meme

>>23514066
i need one of zaku. a really cheap simple zaku that i can build multiples of in a couple of days

>>23514047
Messer is developed from the Doga yes
however some of its equipment is likely older (shield is similar if not identical to the one used by the Gelgoog III)

Why are people crying about a no-grade kit being bad and cheap? That's the point.

>>23514064
Anon was beyond adamant that the MG MK V's frame would be used for an MG Doven wolf. 5 years later and only the HG exists. bandai is not a company where the obvious happens/gets done.

>>23514088
I guess some of us expect more from bandai instead of expecting them to put happy meal toy features in their kits.

>>23512501
MG Stargazer Gundam and MG G-Self Perfect Pack

>for once chinks get a short end of the stick
>/gpg/ complains

>>23514094
They do, it's called literally every other grade of kit.

>>23514106
I'm a vocal critic of bandai greed resulting in low quality products.

What are they really doing in the 2nd factory?
And don't say shit and dinosaurs because us gaijins don't see those either

>>23514102
of course we complain
we want a good EG of Build Burning Strike and changs are guaranteed to bootleg it even if it's an exclusive

>>23514118
metal builds
it's just the metal builds factory

>>23514118
Figure rise dragon ball, 30mf, unko soul

>>23514113
But the whole point of NG is that it's a low quality product for an extremely low price. That's the give and take. RG Akatsuki having the old MS frame legs is something legitimate to complain about.

>>23514118
tfw the
>wait for the second factory
posts were simply made by bandai employees posting here to gaslight everyone into thinking bandai would do something good.

>>23514128
How does molded unmoving hands make the kit cheaper? Doesn't the Leo which literally goes for 10 dollars have rotating hands?

>>23514106
but the quality and what is included in their other grade kits has been going downhill too. just because they introduced "NEW! Somehow Our Grade Tet!" isn't a W or excuse them from mockery.

>>23514133
*"Somehow Our Shittiest Grade Yet"

>>23514133
NG isn't new.

>>23514128
>But the whole point of NG is that it's a low quality product for an extremely low price.
No it is not.

governors are so tiny
thought they'd be around 10cm but they're not even 8

>>23514133
I don't get why they had to half ass that NG Build Strike. Their previous NG kit seems pretty decent.

>>23513996
The real kicker is how it's for the chinese market when chinkpla has been steadily catching up and even beating Bandai engineering

>>23514089
i just dont get it. zakus are popular. cultural icons even. an EG would be a no brainer money maker and the low cost accessibility would have mass appeal

>>23514175
Bandai is just that tonedeaf. They have been making literall shitpla for some reason when they could have just sell them as their own Bandai Playdoh. They also give alot of their FRS and non gunpla kits box hands, even went as far as making the mold super unique so you can't do anything about it. I feel like they are just rage baiting at this point.

>>23514176
bandai is a company of greedy schizos. Don't try to make sense of anything they do.

>>23514118
wasting it on useless shit like the chink Build Strike

>>23514185
if they are greedy, they would make an EG zaku. they are just retarded

>>23514189
The revive Zaku is literally just an EG in disguise. It took me like 30 minutes to put it together.

People meme about box hands but I'd much rather have those than barely functional grippers that can't hold shit and fall apart if you so much as sneeze at them. I'm looking at you, MG F90

>>23514193
>I'd much rather have those than barely functional grippers that can't hold shit
But enough about box hands

>>23514189
That's the schizo part, it overrides the greed sometimes.

>But but NG is supposed to be dogshit
>But but boxhand can hold things, except when they can't
Bandaitard is going full damage control today

>>23514193
>MG F90
Do you have pictures to elaborate? I have yet to build my Zeon F90 or the N(lol) type fuck the rest.
>box hands
Box hands are ugly and they aren't much better in terms of function either. That's why I don't like them.

So why doesn't Bandai just sell kits directly off their website? Why do I have to buy kits second hand from scalpers?

>>23514204
Box hand is objectively the second worst next to articulated fingers. They solely rely on the tightness of the armor part to press the weapon in place, which is the least reliable thing ever from a modelkit. The trigger finger type along with its similiarly designed weapon gripper are still the best one, they look good and also having a ridge to keep the weapon in place.

>>23514219
> They solely rely on the tightness of the armor part to press the weapon in place, which is the least reliable thing ever from a modelkit
That's why I say they aren't much better. There are articulated hands which you press the weapon into a blade and then wrap the fingers around to offer stability. Those depending on the weight of the gun work really well as well.

>>23514192
One of the key selling point of EG is that you don't need nipper or apply sticker (except for EG Nu shield). EG Wing Gundam have no stickers compared to HG

>>23514236
Zaku is just a green blob. You can just ignore the monoeye if you dont want to work with stickers,

>>23514225
Most of modern MGs have moved on from fully articulated fingers and are objectively stronger than their HG box hand counterpart now. Even when these new MG hands have become fully spaghettified, you can easily thicken them and they still look good.

>>23514250
inb4 zaku gets EG and it ends up being the first non-rg 1/144 to have a physical eye part

>>23514264
>it ends up being the first non-rg 1/144 to have a physical eye part
Did you forget someone?

>>23514064
I'm guessing EG kits aren't actually that profitable and they're pushing non-newbies to buy at least HGs. Even the Strike/Nu option packs cost more than the actual Gundams.
Of course if they made EG Zaku or GM for cheap I'd gladly buy some too.

>>23514287
The classic GM HG kit is still pretty cheap and serviceable enough if you can forgive its polycaps.

>>23514204
>Do you have pictures to elaborate?
F90 kits use swappable fingers made of hard ABS plastic. While this isn't a problem for most MGs, many late UC designs have tiny hands with equally delicate connectors. Due to their smaller size there's no security tab so everything handheld is kept in place with friction. They can hold rifles and sabers (mostly) fine, but bigger accessories, like the G-Type sword rifle, will rip the fingers from the palm if angled incorrectly. A regrettable downpoint to an otherwise great line of kits.

>>23514056
is that the Sheik Mainland set? What did you think of it. I've been considering getting them since they look like Front Mission and there seems to be a serious lack of kits from that IP

>>23514299
unironically, the bootleg F90 beam rifle holding fingers are tight fit to the legit bandai F90 hands that you can use it so the F90 and its variants will not have trouble holding bigger weapons

>>23514303
Build is very simple but also pretty nice. Plastic is basically bandai-equivalent, which I didn't expect because the plastic on the Zarov Marine Type was weird and chalky.

It's a very simple and cheap kit but has a remarkable amount of customization and articulation points.

Do note that all the joints are ball joints and they show in a lot of spots, mainly a painting consideration.

>>23514299
You can be fixed with you painted that hand, it will tighten the joints alot. Also, those fingers seem to be static, which is good. Definite taking these over fucking lego hands any days.

>>23514335
*It can be fixed. Damn, i might having a stroke.

>>23514315
>the plastic on the Zarov Marine Type was weird and chalky
Odd, my Yunque is smooth and even somewhat glossy. Do they use different plastic for different kits?

>>23514340
i might've just gotten a lemon, dunno
the zarov plastic didn't LOOK weird, it just behaved weird when i sanded it

>>23514340
He meant the rubbery plastic Sheik Mainland uses for the kits. They don't feel like actual ABS or KPS, but some sort of weird mixture between PC and ABS

>>23513988
Zaku III Custom. I just love the bulk and the long back skirt, the only improvement I'd make is giving it a longer front skirt.

>>23513446
Very good

>>23510989
magnetized the hands. Works pretty well. They aren't super strong but they won't fall out unless unless I shake it so I consider that to be an improvement.

>>23514433
What size magnets did you use?

>>23514442
2x2mm. guess i could have gone slightly bigger but it's done with now and should suffice

>>23514386
Yeah the rubbery plastic on my black Yunque didn't feel chalky at all which is why I found it odd.

>>23514192
anon what the fuck are you even saying? theres significantly more parts in the revive zaku. higher price point. stickers. better articulation. theres nothing here that makes it an EG in disguise. anon it's easier to call bandai a retard than to do these weird mental gymnastics to defend the lack of EG zaku while at same trying to call bandai greedy. genuinely what are you doing?

>Thunderbolt zaku with the big gun arrives at the end of the month
Fuck yeah just in time for my birthday

>>23513984
>MK-V delivered
based
>FedEx also dumped a neighbors package on my doorstep
meh

>>23514553
Fuck, is it finally time? That kit has been holding up my USAGS preorder for almost a year. Also, happy birthday anon

>>23514264
Like HG Zgok'E?

>>23514524
90% of these threads are people making shit up in their heads, then sperging out when corrected.

>>23514264
>>23514594
>first non-RG with eye part
>like HG Zgok'E
and NG:
>Z'Gok E
>Hygogg
>Rick Dom II
>Kampfer
>Zaku FZ
>Gelgoog Jaeger
and HGUC:
>Rick Dias
>Dom/Rick Dom
>Dom Reopen
>Rick Dom II
>Zaku Sniper
>Acguy
>Zock
>Juagg
>ZoGok
(and the already mentioned Z'Gok E

>>23514630
Also HG Zudah

kits Bandai could make MG’s of based off of arnir and inner frame runners from other kits but don’t for some retarded reason:
>Geara Doga Kai
>Psycho-Doga
>Geara Zulu
>GM III
>Zaku III
>Doven Wolf

>>23514644
>Geara Zulu
maybe 50% of the frame could be reused.
>Zaku III
the fuck?
nothing could be reused for this that currently exists.
>Doven Wolf
at best 25% of the inner frame is recyclable.
while outwardly similar, the MK V shares very little outside of the abdomen and waist, with the arms, head, lower legs, feet and knee joints needing entirely new parts for a doven to exist.

>>23514524
>better articulation. theres nothing here that makes it an EG in disguise
If you have built both EG kits and Revive Zaku then you wouldn't saying this shit. Revive Zaku has the most basicbitch articulation you would expect from a modern HG, it is not some sort of super complex masterpiece that makes you salivate upon looking at it.
>Stickers
EG have stickers. Nothing in this line indicating that they don't.

>>23514673
>Revive Zaku has the most basicbitch articulation you would expect from a modern HG
thank you for further confirming you haven't built the kit.
if you did, you'd know better.
it has types of articulation that no other 1/144 kit has ever had.

might have been a little much on the skirts but I wanted it to have the top and bottom sections that sort of frame the side skirts like those silver bits on the rg hi nu. Those will be a light grey here though

>>23514684
>Static butt flap
>Half assed waist
>A literall green blob with a single sticker for the monoeye
>it has types of articulation that no other 1/144 kit has ever had.
Delusional retard

>>23514702
>pectoral articulation in two axes (no kit has ever had this)
>double jointed waist
>flexible skirt
you haven't built the kit

>>23514708
>>flexible skirt
Retard, almost every HGs have articulated skirt. You can split them in two because every time they have balljoints at the end of the peg. Did you actually like, modify your kit before?

>>23514717
>Retard, almost every HGs have articulated skirt.
you just keep digging that hole deeper lmao
also
>ESL

I really don't see why there's so much kvetching ITT over a low budget chink-exclusive kit from a spinoff
Surely none of you actually buy EGs when the whole point of that line is being for kids too young to trust with nippers, there's literally no reason to ever buy one otherwise

>>23514724
>He doesn't know about the HG skirt mod
Actual moron.

>>23514708
>pectoral articulation in two axes
The what?

Now this discussion kinda reminds me, how many of you anons actually cut the HG's singular skirt piece in two? Or you just let them stand in Katoki pose forever so you don't care?

>>23514728
and you don't even understand what "flexible" means in this context, further illustrating that you didn't build the kit.
>>23514729
you can compress and expand the upper chest so it can pull off the bazooka firing poses from the show and more. Dalong did not showcase this, hence why this ESL goober doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>23514748
> you don't even understand what "flexible" means in this context
You mean that rubber skirt piece? It is fucking trash and unpaintable, who the fuck think that shit is good?

>>23514758
>had to look it up to figure it out
gg, better luck next time

>>23514075
That Rifle is familiar, at least the front 2/3rds

>>23514748
>you can compress and expand the upper chest so it can pull off the bazooka firing poses from the show and more
Wasn't that just a reused tech from GTO? You seem abit silly, anon.

>>23514761
>Soipog over GTO Zaku pecs and literall rubber skirt
Pffttt i wasn't wrong when i said this trash is a literall EG in diguise. Such a useless addition to the line.

>>23514784
>gets angry
>english skills start to break down
classic

>>23514780
these are pegged in place. no articulation.
>>23514784
samefag esl moment

>>23514788
>these are pegged in place. no articulation.
They do. I built Char version before.

>>23514788
no they aren't, they're on a hinge. i've got that kit right here. the range of motion is much lower than this >>23514748 picture though

>>23514784
Calm down

>>23514791
I'll walk that back and admit I was wrong. But it's still only in one axis and very limited range of motion. This whole part is on a ball joint on the new HGUC Zaku

>>23514761
Brother, i have the kit right here, along with the rubber skirt. I have 2 copies infact. It feels very basic and totally on late 2010 HG standard. Yes the GTO pecs is cool and all, but i have seen them before. The lack of accessories is a huge letdown, too. No magazines on the left shoulder, no rocket launchers on the legs. This is why i said it feels like an EG, Bandai made the kit very basic to make it cheaper.

>>23514804
Compares to the old HG Zaku, it has this.

The virgin HG Zaku pecs vs the chad EG Build Strike's waist.

>>23514804
votoms ATs really should have been the blueprint for grunts instead of zakus

>>23514815
They were both designed by the same guy weren't they? And the AT came years after the Zaku

>>23514810
What is the purpose of this?

>>23514804
>feels like EG
I forgot that every EG has a 75% complete inner frame, my bad
>>23514810
>good because it has articulation that no one will ever use
you're a certain kind of special, huh.
>>23514821
for discussion like this, clearly

>>23514821
ginyu force

>>23514820
it came after but not years
regardless they are such better utilitarian mass produced designs than a long legged dude with a gasmask

>>23514830
>1979
>1983
>4 years
>it came after but not years
the intellect of this thread never ceases to amaze

>>23514827
I honestly don't care if Zaku 2 has structure frame or not. Even EG kits themselves pull some impressive stuff. You have to understand one thing, that EG have very strong part separation and they are also very new, started in 2021 i think. The only thing holding this line back is the forced cheap price, Bandai will chop off literally anything to make the kit cheaper.

>>23514835
I stand corrected I thought votoms was 1980
And the zaku is still a piece of shit

>>23514842
I like Okawara but i still find Zaku 2 in general to be extremely mediocre.

>>23514821
>What is the purpose of this?
To show off how far Bandai's technology has come ( No no, ignore those box hands, you fucking plebs. Stop noticing them ).

What are the best HG kits?
The revives?

>>23514850
Just buy the hand DLC bro

>>23514837
your statements would be meaningful if you had any coherent narrative.
>EG good, because new!
>only 2mo newer than the zaku
>Zaku bad, because articulation bad!
>still better articulation than any EG
>color separation in EG is good!!!
>zaku has better color separation than the newest EG (Nu)

Sawed gusion side skirt boosters. The first one is a mess, trying to salvage it with CA glue. Second one turned out nice. Pondering whether or not to give haji another pair of arms on the backpack. That'd be double the amount of swords

>>23514852
Nonsensical question

Noticed a strong uptick in box/lego hand shitposting. Better invest early because I predict this one dying out pretty quick.

>>23514828
I accept this response.
>>23514850
I've just never understood why people cream themselves over ab crunches and shit like that.

>>23514856
>your statements would be meaningful if you had any coherent narrative.
You were picking fights because i said Zaku is just an EG in disguise. I explained my point. It is a generic HG that has been chopped its extra accessories off. You argument about how it has stickers or having good engineering has nothing to do with EG kits themselves. EGs have good engineering, they are modern and they are starting to have stickers. Asking for an " EG Zaku " when the HG Revive is literally that under a different brand is a waste of energy.

>>23514877
>I've just never understood why people cream themselves over ab crunches and shit like that.
I've noticed that it's usually the people that collect capeslop action figgies that get obsessed over articulation that is unnecessary beyond what is needed to recreate all the relevant keyframe poses.

>>23514862
It's been around for like a year or two

>>23514882
Yeah but it’s been in overdrive recently.

>>23514879
I think I'm starting to realize that all the additional articulation people beg for is actually negatively impacting the quality of several robots. If I recall correctly the Stein Ver Ka Narrative's marketing showed off it having the capability to bend its legs to the point of it touching itself. However, that offers no advantage to anyone.

>>23514889
Sinanju ver Ka's articulated fingers literally made the kit unable to hold its weapons. It is very common for the owner of this kit to buy DLC hands.

>>23514878
>You were picking fights because i said Zaku is just an EG in disguise.
It's not
I explained my point.
You didn't.
It is a generic HG that has been chopped its extra accessories off [holy esl].
It's a OYW zaku accurate to the TV show, the three tube leg missiles first appeared in MSV. Only OYW TV accessories missing are cracker grenades.
>You[r] argument about how it has stickers or [it] having good engineering has nothing to do with EG kits themselves.
Except it has better engineering than any EG. You are saying it is an EG.
>EGs have good engineering, they are modern
Worse engineering than said zaku.
>Asking for an " EG Zaku " when the HG Revive is literally that under a different brand
it's not, we can go over this as many times as you like.

>>23514862
it's not shitposting, are you retarded or just autistic

>>23514898
There is no revive HG Nu Gundam and there is no EG Zaku, because they have existed already. End of discussion.

>>23514862
Pointing out the dogshit is shitposting now?

>>23514910
why do you continue to move goalposts to things we aren't even talking about?

>>23514889
I legitimately believe mecha gaikotsu and his rhetoric is has been negatively affecting plamo.
like sure, The O is a "brick" because it can't do the splits or move it's head to look directly upwards or whatever the fuck but why would you ever want it to, even if it could

>>23514929
fortunately bandai doesn't listen to him, but the phenomena you describe is real.
most visible case is influencer praise of thin phones leading to shitty bendy phones and loss of headphone jacks and SD cards. it's wholly possible that a few Japanese influencers are having the same effect on plamo.

>>23514929
He also refuse to use cement and has a habit of shaking the kit to see if it is solid or not. Also, his content feels very inconsistent. He complain about the lack of color separation even though he apparently familiar with Warhammer kits. Even when you ignore his inflammatory behavior and speech, he is very questionable and disingenious.

When are the Ex-S and FAZZ going live again? October?

>>23514860
I mean in terms of engineering and kit quality. Like what are the HGs people generally consider to be of the highest quality.

>>23514936
Good color separation also benefits people who paint. There is no reason to not want it to be good.

I know it’s my fault for expecting anything but it really does suck how grey/blue P-Bandai kits don’t have the cool in-universe information in the instructions.

>>23514942
Yeah good color separation benefits everyone.

>>23514942
Part separation =/= color separation. Mecha kits themselves are already more than good enough since you can dissect them into individual limbs, head and torso so you can paint them gradually.

>>23514952
Different colored parts being different colors is good design and benefits everyone.

>>23514954
until it doesn't, like how the sleeves details on th RG are mushy garbage compared to the crisp molding on the HG.
you are right in most cases, though.

>>23514940
People constantly praise HG Moon Gundam, so there's that. HG Dragonars are also pretty good iirc. Truth is, anything past 2010 or so should be fair game, except for some ibo frames maybe

>>23514954
[sinanju]

>>23514966
>>23514961
RG sinanjus sleeves are fine. The problem people have with them are the gold plating. Of all the problems with that kit, the sleeves being color separated are not one of them.

>>23514973
no, the detail is significantly more rounded and less sharp.
it's a detriment to anyone who is painting the kit.

>>23514978
That's just not true.

>>23514980
get your eyes checked

>>23514988
This is so insanely zoomed in. In reality it's far less of an issue. You would know this had you built the kit.

>>23514997
I accept your concession.

>>23514988
honestly I think the way the gold "feathers" are smushed together as one part is more offensive than the rounded detail.
the HGUC keeps them distinct.

>>23514695
Looks fine to me anon. Better work than 99% of the shitposting dickheads in this thread can produce.

what happens if you don't accept a concession

>>23515090
You make love

>>23514988
Are you trying to make the argument that this is due to part separation and not due to bandai?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSD2AoG31kE

man zak's contest has a lot of killers
i wouldn't have chosen the same top 3 but still good

>>23514954
if you paint it makes no difference. e.g. the ot mmm junone that's basically fully parts separated but moulded entirely in grey plastic

>>23515146
Without having watched, what do you think my odds are of placing in the next zakpetition (I am the second best builder in gpg).

>>23515155
sadly zero we're not big on dioramas here

>>23515154
Color separation makes it easier to paint too. it doesn't help any more than that does but thanks to modern engineering there's no reason to not separate colors if you're already doing it with the parts.

>>23514963
Thanks. I just wanted to grab a few to practice on and wanted to see what the best HGs were like compared to the older ones I'm used to.

>>23515157
I've done a diorama once before. It was okayish.

is there a good site that indexes all the good third party chink kits that are out there? some of the one's I've seen look really cool but it's hard to shop them by brand

I am gonna be working on a resin conversion kit for the first time tomorrow. Anyone have any sage wisdom?
So far my plan is to clean everything with 91% IPA to remove mold release but past that I'm still kinda blind. I also know that the dust is toxic if it needs sanding. I am going in expecting some fit issues and to need to do a lot of gluing.

>>23515214
Have you preemptively gotten your sperm frozen?