Thread 23545838

>The black dog pilot wears read
>the red dog pilot wears blue
>the blue dog pilot wears black then pink
>the yellow dog pilot wears orange
>the green dog pilot wears green

>>23545838 (OP)
>The new fag can't understand things if they're not color coded

>>23545869
I've been here since before you were born, homo

>>23545838 (OP)
ngl this bugged the shit out of me as a kid

Based green dog pilot

>>23545838 (OP)
All of them are just varying degrees of colorblind except green.

>>23545869
I mean, they are. Their suits are color coded. Their mecha are color coded. They just don't match.

>>23547190
Then they're not color coded. Just because it has a color doesn't mean it's a code.

>>23547309
it's a secret code

Red is the hero's color.
Pink is the girl's color.
Blue is the cool color.
Orange/yellow is the fat color.
Green is for whoever's left.
Black is the aloof/dark color.

>>23547457

> color coded stereotypes

Thats racist mang.

>>23547457
>>23548054
https://youtu.be/mOyE_l80D4Y

>>23545838 (OP)
Getter Robos didn't freak you out?

>>23547457
Blue is the scottish color actually.

So tell me, everything I heard about Golion is that it is a very mid mecha show for its era that was completely outclassed in every aspect by its contemperaries, and that it would have been completely forgotten about if it were not for Voltron. How true is that

>>23552441
It's not THAT bad and I'd gladly watch it over a bunch of other shows like, say, Gold Lightan or Albegas.

>>23552441
The basic issue I've heard is that Golion just feels like a mediocre attempt to replicate the Robot Romance Trilogy

>>23552441

> outclassed by its contemporaries

https://youtu.be/QHq4UqC_y68?si=4u4ERcV583UXWfNL

>>23552441
It's true that it was perhaps seen as underwhelming but that can often have very little to do with the show itself. Could have been a broadcast issue.

>>23554638
>Except for them

>>23554662
That's fucking awesome what the fuck

>>23552441
It's fairly solid and had decent production quality compared to its contemporaries.
But it's true that it just didn't stand out much.

>>23554638
Good god anons weren’t wrong when they said that beast king golion was more horrifically brutal compared to other super robot shows at the time and I’ve watched plenty of them and none of which went this far, not even nagahama’s shows.

>>23552441
The funny thing is while Lion Voltron is far more remembered than Vehicle Voltron, it's the opposite on the other end, where by all accounts from what I'e heard, Dairugger kicks Golion's ass

>>23555026
What about Albegas? Is that any good or does it stink? The toy could have multiple arms and be like mecha shiva

>>23545838 (OP)
It's the fact that one of them DOES match that makes it worse, really.

>>23555051
I'm a few episodes into it. it's alright so far. Pretty basic but entertaining. I'm not really sure what I was expecting from hearing it was going to be Gladiator Voltron but there's very little Gladiator like qualities to it. Pretty silly unless things suddenly swerve.

>>23555072
"Going back to basics" was more or less Toei's intention with the show and, to be honest, it ended up being one of the big issues along with Albegas itself being kinda lame despite its six forms gimmick, Goro and his robot hogging way too much screentime and being not even remotely as fun as Boss and the Borot and the high amount of "it's a Dellinger in disguise again - yes, we're still falling for this after the fourth time..." episodes.
(not to mention the "are you shitting me" factor of the final episode where they obviously use animations that were intended for the arcade game)

>>23555101
Then I guess it’s not worth my time

>>23547457
Why mutts always disrespect the color green?
It's the color of heavens

>>23556308
why are yuros like you always gay trannies?

>>23556308
brain rot

>>23554889
Sadly there's only a handful of times when the Govarian kids go full Scanners on the bad guys. Otherwise the show is pretty unremarkable. Even the PSYCHO CROSS stock finisher looks kind of shitty. Plus some stuff like Govarian's rifle never makes into the series.

>>23556308
green is the color of hope

>>23552441
It's not really a bad show. I enjoyed its story trajectory where they have to build a coalition of planets to go against the bad guys instead of the entirety of the show being on the one planet. The monster of the week battles are pretty good, all said. I think it gets a bad rap from the aggressively circumcised American version and the resultant association with the nostalgia industry.
>>23555051
>What about Albegas?
Albegas was OK. I'm fairly indiscriminate in my mania for 70s and 80s mecha anime, though. I can't think of any that I hated off the top of my head.
>>23555026
>by all accounts from what I'e heard, Dairugger kicks Golion's ass
I thought Armored Fleet Dairugger XV was kind of repetitive and boring at times, and I don't think it really innovated on the formula that the Robot Romance established beyond just the sheer number of mechs required to combine into Dairugger. I guess two competing survey teams is an innovation, but the different planets they found were just a background to the monster of the week fights, and the enemy alien race were just kind of retarded about it, so in the end it didn't really add anything to the "doomed alien enemy is coming for your land because it's planet is blowing up soon" thing. I'd say out of the three associated with "Voltron" Dairugger was the least interesting. Maybe if they had fewer characters to deal with it would have had been better.

>>23565849
The fact WEP flat out owns Golion and Dairugger due to 80s licensing BS and there aren't any Japanese home video releases probably makes it worse too.

>>23565982
Asuka the Disc Dog sold passable knock-off blu-rays (a couple of the Go-Lion episodes were out of order.) I should have got more before he was shut down.
Related: does anybody know if they popped up again under a different name?

>>23565849

The only reason anybody even remembers or knows of this show is because of the "circumcised" american version.
Deal with it.

Anyone remember that crazy Filipino guy Buddy who'd like to make videos and fics of the Golion team being killed by Voltes V? His logic was "Voltron" ripped off Voltes because they stole the "Volt" (that's dub tho) and the five member team and attractive male villain formula.

>>23565849
yeah it takes a bit to get beyond "we found a planet! sure hope the blue guys aren't on the other side and the planet ends up exploding!"

I headcanon the production of Golion was misreading the western demand for bible-themed content like Flying House and Superbook as just a general interest in stuff with like, lions, and crosses, and ghosts, and, like, a bunch of bronze age people getting the fucking shit killed out of them

>>23567049
The Japanese saw the originals before the Voltron adaptations.

>>23567049
This is such a brainlet American take. Every Europoor and Spic remembers all the random Japanese shows that were dubbed for their countries but US execs throttle their media so much the three robot shows Americans got in a single decade are somehow the cornerstone of all entertainment.

>>23565982
No licensing BS. Toei willingly sold the rights as they didn't see them as profitable.

>>23567130
No.

>>23567171
>Every Europoor and Spic
Nobody fucking cares.

>>23567172
Somebody needs to let the Jen know before she goes on a Breadtube grift then.

>>23567049
>The only reason anybody even remembers or knows of this show is because of the "circumcised" american version.
>Deal with it.
Weirdly defensive of a heavily censored localization, and also a low IQ take. By that logic nobody would ever know about any anime they had not first watched a shitty dub of, which is clearly not true. I have seen many obscure mecha anime that were never adapted for American children. Deal with that, brainlet.

>>23567171
yurop is a third world country with no money. the US is the only market that matters

>>23567694
you seethed first, yuropoor
also israel is in yurop

>>23567614
NTA but in his defense Voltron was much more successful and helped what started off as a failure to toei to a pop cultural icon, yeah it was edited heavily did you not see >>23554638, to 80s kids that would’ve been on the level of Friday the 13th or nightmare on elm street

I def recall on Futaba the chatter around Golion was usually
a) lol americans
b) WAN
c) also Daizyujin

>>23567774
>to 80s kids that would’ve been on the level of Friday the 13th or nightmare on elm street
I was an 80s kid, my man. It was always about what parents thought kids should see and never about what kids could actually handle. American parents like to pretend their kids are pure and innocent and fight to keep them infantilized rather than guiding them through growing up.

>>23567837
It doesn't help Jameson Brewer, who was in charge of the Americanization of Battle of the Planets, was the guy that had to try to make sense of the gore and tone everything down for USA kids again with the Voltron robos.

>>23552441
The protagonists are retards but the gore is great

>>23567130
He's dead
No seriously his brother said he got diabetes and died

>>23567171
I'm a Burger and I dislike American exceptionalism but from what I can tell Japan didn't care for Golion all that much to begin with.
Though to be frank and please correct me if I'm wrong but had Voltron been derived from any other super robot anime it would've still saw the same success because any super robot anime that came at the same time, at the same place for an audience unfamiliar with robot anime period would've been attached to it all the same.
Voltron nostalgia is weird because most of it comes down to liking the IDEA of Voltron rather than the actual fiction.
Even stuff like Generation 1 Transformers (which Voltron beat in ratings when it was alive) generates discussion on the actual characters and plots despite how hokey they are.
Voltron's appeal comes from a lack of competition when it was airing so even a heavily censored Golion (and frankly I don't blame the people who had to make Voltron for the censorship cause Golion was unusually gory even for standards at the time in Japan regarding contemporaries and well, the FCC and soccer mom mentality wasn't something you could just circumvent) would stick out.

>>23567972
>and I dislike American exceptionalism
faggot

>>23567974
We're not the center of the world
Our opinions, sensibilities, personal drama, etc shouldn't take priority over everyone else on this planet

>>23567972
lion voltron did better than vehicle voltron. it was the combination of lack of competition and the mecha design is pretty cool. Like zyuranger basically had the best possible design for the suits and the mecha for the US when it came out. That's a big reason why it's remembered more than the later seasons
>>23567977
we are the center of the world. Japan and Korea are our colonies, fuck everbody else, I'd say hk is cool too, but they aren't anymore

>>23567972
>Voltron nostalgia is weird because most of it comes down to liking the IDEA of Voltron rather than the actual fiction.
I don't get it either. It's in the same category as Robotech in that there always seems to be a group of people ready to gush about it but this group doesn't seem to be actual mecha anime fans in general, just super happy about a reminder of their childhood being referenced in a marketable way.

My problem with GoLion/Dairugger was that they couldn't decide on the names and/or designs for some of the attacks.

>>23567972
Well that would have certainly proved that had daltanious been brought over as initially planned it would’ve been a big hit on western airwaves. That’s just makes me even more intrigued as to what could’ve been since this series was more kid friendly compared to nagahama’s previous works. Meanwhile Golion would’ve lived in infamy as that one violently over the top super robot show.

>>23567978
Golion is the cooler design (and makes for the better toys) but Americans have a bad case of "not muh" when it comes to change

>>23568074
Fighting General Daimos had a shortened American adaption and me and my friends fucking loved it. It was either a movie or some kind of shortened edit. For the short time it was on TV it was all we talked about, and then it disappeared and I had no information about it. It drove me nuts until Discotek released the bluray and I had instant recognitiin of it. If they had done the whole series I believe it would have been as iconic as Voltron and Robotech became.

>>23568081
>Golion is the cooler design (and makes for the better toys)
golion is the lion voltron, aka the popular one in the US.
the Zyuranger megazord is a better design than golion/voltron by the way. it was made by the guy who made golion/voltron's apprentice and it's cooler because the t-rex, mastodon and pterodactyl aren't just a pair of arms and torso

>>23568094
>golion is the lion voltron, aka the popular one in the US.
Yeah, I know
That's what I meant
Lion Voltron is the better design but I think Vehicle Voltron simply being called "Voltron" alienated people upon reveal and would've had better reception without the name given

>>23568087
Also Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger were mashed into Tranzor Z in the US. I remember watching this on TV as a kid, but I don't remember if anybody but me and my one other friend liked it. I think Transformers, GI Joe, and He-Man ended up crushing the market with their dominance.

>>23568087
It was a compilation movie, Starbirds.

Story-wise, I prefer Dairugger XV to GoLion.

Never seen the two Voltrons.

>>23568105
No Great Mazinger episode was used in Tranzor Z. Great's appearance is actually from the last episode of Z.

>>23568125
I was 9 when I watched Tranzor Z, so I don't remember it well. I think I might have read part of Great was used, but I'll take your word on it.
>>23568119
Neat. Didn't know what it was called.

>>23568125
Great was originally going to be part of Force Five though but got switched out.

>>23567965
Well dang, since 2017 even. Here's a museum exhibit of those going f to such a bizarre soul.
https://www.artwanted.com/imageview.cfm?id=977045

>>23568151
He literally died two to three months after /m/ found out about him
Shame his fanfic will never be finished
Do you think he would've liked the live action Voltes V series?

>>23568146
What does that have to do with Tranzor Z?

>>23545869
What the fuck is the point of sticking them in colored jump suits if you aren't going to coordinate them?

>>23568202
It's possible, might've distracted him from his rage about K-dramas taking over society.
kek it's funny it took /m/ so long to find out on him because he and his madness littered a bunch of anime forums. He'd join just to yell about how Voltron was an evil ripoff and Voltes could kick its ass, even if the board was for totally unrelated anime. Kind of like the /a/ and /m/ version of one of the Toonzone schizos.

>>23568151
>54 in 2010
>61 when he died
What the fuck he'd be 69 if he was still alive today?
That can't be right, he'd be 21 years old when Voltes V first came out in Japan

>>23568260
Wonder if Go-Lion staff were ever interviewed about that or their goals with the show, the deal with Shirogane, etc.
Strange that nobody's identified Amue's actress after all this time, but it'd have to be someone that was cast as another character and doubled for her as things would usually go.

>>23568720
His brother's account and the FB for "remembering Buddy" confirm the age. He was an oldhead with so much dedication to hating Voltron, Lea Salonga, Christianity, and effeminate men up to his final days.

>>23554885
That promo was hilarious
Shame it was taken down with the rest of the channel

>>23568729
>Lea Salonga
A quick skim tells me she's like the Dolly Parton for Filipinos
What did she do to piss him off?

>>23568729
I'd say he's in that great Jollibee in the sky but he probably wouldn't want it anyways

>>23545881
My HOUNDS...

>>23568741
Not sure, but she was among his many hated subjects on one social bio too. Maybe with his hate for men who were too fruity, he was all about avoiding anything for the gays as much as he was for the fundies.
>I'm a comic book writer and artist, an avid fan of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Voltes V. I hate Voltron, Smallville, Jesus Christ Superstar, Leah Salonga, Christian Fundamentalist Music and Battlestar Galactica.