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Anonymous No.23561431 >>23561942 >>23562318 >>23565583 >>23566087 >>23566680 >>23576999
Late UC thread
F90, F91, Crossbone, Victory, G-Saviour: anything goes!
Anonymous No.23561764 >>23561948
I like this time period as it shows how even though the Federation won 4-5 pyrrhic victories in a row, Zeon broke the people fundamentally bringing the whole thing down after they are gone.
Anonymous No.23561774 >>23561855 >>23565774
Here's a page from the G-Saviour manga.
Anonymous No.23561786 >>23563084
Anonymous No.23561787 >>23561836
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Anonymous No.23561793 >>23561949
Anonymous No.23561836
>>23561787
Still waiting for its prototype to show up in Cluster.
Anonymous No.23561850 >>23561939 >>23573977
I tried Crossbone, but I can't get over the art in chapter 1.
Anonymous No.23561855
>>23561774
Wahh, so cool ..
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Anonymous No.23561912 >>23561915
Seabook and Cecily are so cute together, best part of Crossbone and makes me even more mad F91 never got a full series
Anonymous No.23561915 >>23561937 >>23565190
>>23561912
Thank Hasegawa for diverging from the original Tomino's plan.
F91 not getting full series is a blessing for them.
Anonymous No.23561937 >>23561952 >>23565190
>>23561915
Tomino was out for blood, huh? Can't say that isn't like him hah
Anonymous No.23561939 >>23573905
>>23561850
It gets better over time.
Anonymous No.23561942 >>23561951 >>23561955 >>23562814 >>23562831
>>23561431 (OP)
should i watch G saviour?
Anonymous No.23561948
>>23561764
Federation was really, really REALLY fucking lucky Zeon was even worse than them because that was the only thing giving them any shred of legitimacy. And even then, genocidal maniacs were still enough of a counterforce to the prospect of continued Federation rule.
Anonymous No.23561949 >>23561978 >>23566008
>>23561793
Anonymous No.23561951
>>23561942
it's an extremely okay movie, nothing more and nothing less. Meming it as the worst thing in Gundam is just that, meming.
Anonymous No.23561952 >>23561979
>>23561937
They survived, it's just you wouldn't really cheer them getting together by the end.
Anonymous No.23561955 >>23581419
>>23561942
You should play its video game sequel.
Anonymous No.23561978
>>23561949
Afranche...what are you doin', brother?
Anonymous No.23561979 >>23562014
>>23561952
elaborate
Anonymous No.23562014
>>23561979
You can read Crossbone draft yourself.
https://zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=8635
Anonymous No.23562052
G-Saviour, my beloved...
Anonymous No.23562054 >>23574272 >>23574300
I LOVE F90 I LOVE F90 I LOVE F90
Anonymous No.23562127 >>23562130
>Universal Century
>Goes on for longer than a Century
Anonymous No.23562130 >>23562146
>>23562127
>anno domini
>lasts longer than an anno
Anonymous No.23562146 >>23562274
>>23562130
By that logic the oyw war should have taken place in the first Universal Century at UC 00.79, Hathaway's Flash the 2nd Universal Century in UC 01.05 and G-Saviour the 3rd Universal Century in 02.23
Anonymous No.23562274
>>23562146
...I like that logic.
Anonymous No.23562318 >>23562358
>>23561431 (OP)
Anonymous No.23562358 >>23562835
>>23562318
Cool pre-CCA antique. What does it have to do with Late UC though?
Anonymous No.23562814
>>23561942
Yes, It’s got the best girl cucking in the franchise
Anonymous No.23562831
>>23561942
As you cannot decide for yourself, the answer is 'no'.
Anonymous No.23562835 >>23563076
>>23562358
antiques are used in late UC
Anonymous No.23562877 >>23562892
For me late U.C. is ok up until F91. Until they fill in all the gaps and tie up loose threads things are just too all over the place after that.

However I do like some of the designs in the Crossbone mangas
Anonymous No.23562892
>>23562877
The Batalla and all its offshoots are kino
Anonymous No.23563076 >>23563077
>>23562835
True, but that one in particular wasn't featured in any late UC stuff afaik. Not even as a cameo.
Anonymous No.23563077 >>23563131
>>23563076
wait shit, it isn't?
Anonymous No.23563084 >>23563175
>>23561786
this thing has a lot of firepower, wow
Anonymous No.23563131
>>23563077
Yeah, there were some AoZ Reboot cameos in Cluster, but no Rehyze as far as I know.
Anonymous No.23563175 >>23563266 >>23563299 >>23563411 >>23568420
>>23563084
It also is basically the fastest suit in UC
Anonymous No.23563266 >>23563302
>>23563175
Close enough.
Anonymous No.23563299 >>23563326
>>23563175
Pretty sure that Vanilla V2 is faster.
Anonymous No.23563302 >>23563313 >>23565649
>>23563266
You can't just slap bunny ears on a V2 and call it a new suit
Anonymous No.23563313
>>23563302
V2 is just a big V slapped on Victory
Anonymous No.23563326
>>23563299
>basically
Anonymous No.23563331 >>23564944
I wish they make Gaia Gear manga so that we can see more the mecha design
Anonymous No.23563356 >>23563358 >>23563423
Jamesgun Short Shoulder is very cute and innocent
Anonymous No.23563358 >>23563362 >>23563367 >>23563423 >>23566241
>>23563356
CUTE
Anonymous No.23563362 >>23566356
>>23563358
INNOCENT
Anonymous No.23563367 >>23563396
>>23563358
Is that ideon?
Anonymous No.23563381 >>23563390 >>23563399 >>23565612
Since V2 have the same developer of the W type for the F90, wouldn't that made it unofficially the F100?
Anonymous No.23563390
>>23563381
Victory in general is a descendant of SNRI tech
Anonymous No.23563396 >>23563404
>>23563367
Jamesgun Short Shoulder
Anonymous No.23563399 >>23565612
>>23563381
>F100
That would be F910, but if we count unofficial expansions like that V2 should get in line. V1 itself uses Cluster-derived Core Block.
Anonymous No.23563404 >>23563423
>>23563396
Anonymous No.23563411 >>23566443 >>23566454
>>23563175
By killing off the man behind the both the Warbird Type and the V2 development (also assuming that he's also behind the development of the Record Breakers), Zanscare has inadvertently squandered away any chance of a WoL successor within the UC. Sure we did get Phantom Light Variants, but they all based off of a failed attempt to reverse engineer stolen technology from SNRI.
Anonymous No.23563423 >>23563426 >>23563434
>>23563356
>>23563358
>>23563404
Looks like an uglier gundvolva ripoff
Anonymous No.23563426 >>23563430
>>23563423
you are extremely stupid and dishonest
Anonymous No.23563430
>>23563426
You just know that I'm right deep in your heart, but too afraid to admit it
Anonymous No.23563434
>>23563423
Embarrassing for you
Anonymous No.23564891
mysterious motherfucker... gotta get a mobile machine at some point, right??
Anonymous No.23564899 >>23564901 >>23565629
Whatever happens to SNRI? I know the the other SNRI branch turned into Bespa but what happened to the main company? Did the Crossbones manga ever mention?
Anonymous No.23564901
>>23564899
It's still around, what would happen to it?
Anonymous No.23564935 >>23564937 >>23565054 >>23565150 >>23573523
I do wonder if Hasegawa is planning on going into the rise of CONSENT, if he is going to make up his own new future

So far, nothing has contradicted G-Saviour in official Sunrise works, and this is the first time anyone has even approached it in the timeline, even if the Crossbone series is only dubiously canon.
Anonymous No.23564937 >>23564952
>>23564935
Crossbone is as canon as anything else
Anonymous No.23564944 >>23566265 >>23566877
>>23563331
Gaia Gear designs are things you look at in painted images. These designs are too complex for traditional 2D animation and they would be really obscured in manga panels.
Anonymous No.23564952 >>23564954 >>23566286
>>23564937
Only filmed works are canon or "official", this was established a long time ago and nobody from Sunrise has changed it afaik.
Anonymous No.23564954 >>23564956
>>23564952
no, it's been changed over a decade ago at this point but westerners keep repeating it because they're incapable of processing new and changed info
Anonymous No.23564956 >>23564964
>>23564954
Source?
Anonymous No.23564964 >>23564973 >>23565097 >>23565142 >>23566286
>>23564956
in the first place "canon" is just not a concept here, don't use that stupid word again
what we do have are terms like
"official" (公式)
"official history" (正史)
"semi-official" (準オフィシャル) [used by Inoue]
"semi-official" (セミ・オフィシャル) [used in MS Encyclopedia]
"semi-official history" (準正史) [per Minakawa]
then we have comments on the whole thing such as Great Mechanics 2005
>So, what is the basis for saying what's "official" in the Gundam world? This magazine asked the well-known Koichi Inoue, head of Sunrise's planning and development office.
>"The first thing we have to say is that, where the Gundam world is concerned, the true official--that is, what could be called Sunrise official setting--should, strictly speaking, be thought of as limited to the films and to things that appear in the filmed works.
>However, even if they're not like the above, Sunrise supervises and gives publishing permission to books and games that deal with the Gundam world. Thus, in a broader sense, the original setting that appears in these could be called semi-official.
or Gundam Encyclopedia
>The addition of "*" to the timeline is a method that began with "GUNDAM OFFICIALS U.C.0079~0083" (compiled by Yuka Minakawa, published 2001 by Kodansha). The designation "official" invites misunderstandings, but don't think that material it did not include is unofficial. (After its publication, the Gundam world has continued to expand.) The idea is not to divide things into official and unofficial, and books, games, and models approved by Sunrise are all assumed to be official. However, there is an order of priority to the information, and one could say that it ranges from white to very close to black. (The original anime being white, and from there it enters the "gray zone.")

TL;DR it's not hard and fast rules or unanimous agreement, don't force western fiction issues onto it
Anonymous No.23564973 >>23564974 >>23565014
>>23564964
lmao, you just posted exactly what I already said. How are you going to post these quotes and then pretend like they don't say what they do?
>"The first thing we have to say is that, where the Gundam world is concerned, the true official--that is, what could be called Sunrise official setting--should, strictly speaking, be thought of as limited to the films and to things that appear in the filmed work

First order is films, they override anything else and take precedence. Your personal vendetta against the word "canon" has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous No.23564974
>>23564973
fantastic job having zero fucking literacy, I guess that's to be expected of your kind
Anonymous No.23565014 >>23565029
>>23564973
I'm glad that we agree that ANT overrides Zeta.
Anonymous No.23565029 >>23565035
>>23565014
Zeta is also filmed. Like 0079, it follows two timelines. Oh, are you an ESL and thought 'filmed' meant only theatrical releases?
Anonymous No.23565035 >>23565096
>>23565029
ESL isnt an insult. Speaking multiple languages is a sign of above average intelligence. Only speaking english is a sign of below average intelligence.
Anonymous No.23565036 >>23565038 >>23565054
Does Xi count as "Late UC"? Because I like the Xi and how bulky it is (and how it looks like its wearing a fez)
Anonymous No.23565038
>>23565036
yah
Anonymous No.23565054 >>23565056
>>23564935
Would Hasegawa even do anything with CONSENT? He prefers to set his stories out of the Earth sphere.
>>23565036
I wouldn't count it, but it's close enough.
Anonymous No.23565056
>>23565054
>He prefers to set his stories out of the Earth sphere.
not really?
Crossbone : half in Earth Sphere
Skullhearrt: roughly half
>Steel 7: most in Earth Sphere
>Ghost: all in Earth Sphere
>DUST: all in Earth Sphere
>X-11: All in Jupiter Sphere
Seerauber is up in the air at this point.
Anonymous No.23565096
>>23565035
speaking English is the only sign of intelligence you retarded brown termite
Anonymous No.23565097
>>23564964
thank you for explaining this
Anonymous No.23565142 >>23565149
>>23564964
Their use of the term "official" means the exact same shit as "canon" in the western nerd fandoms.
Anonymous No.23565149 >>23565153 >>23565638
>>23565142
no it does not and even if it did that wouldn't matter since western nerds don't matter
Anonymous No.23565150 >>23565151 >>23565156 >>23565158
>>23564935
>So far, nothing has contradicted G-Saviour in official Sunrise works
Gaia Gear, which was referenced in the F90FF manga.
Anonymous No.23565151 >>23565153 >>23565198
>>23565150
you're not very smart are you
Anonymous No.23565153 >>23565155 >>23565199
>>23565149
>>23565151
Keep crying, faggot.
Anonymous No.23565155 >>23565195
>>23565153
not everybody that calls out your bullshit is the same person. You're not special, just bigoted.
Anonymous No.23565156 >>23566146
>>23565150
Gaia Gear is 20 years before G-Saviour. 20 years is plenty of time for the dissolution of the Federation and the establishment of Consent.

Not only that, but Gaia Gear can't be canon or official in any way, since Sunrise does not own it and Tomino doesn't want it to ever be brought up again, much less connected officially to Gundam. The rights to individual mecha designs could be a different type of licensing, but Gaia Gear as a story cannot be integrated unless Sunrise buys out the rights from Tomino and the magazine.
Anonymous No.23565158
>>23565150
all they did was drop in Zorin Soul as a one-panel easter egg
Anonymous No.23565190
>>23561937
>>23561915
Hasegawa largely followed the outline of Tomino for Crossbone though, except for the loli shit and retarded plotlines and the shitty ending
Anonymous No.23565195 >>23565199
>>23565155
You typed both of your posts in the exact same way, retard.
Anonymous No.23565198
>>23565151
You don't have to reply twice, retard.
Anonymous No.23565199
>>23565153
>>23565195
not many ways of calling out a dipshit
Anonymous No.23565428
Regular Victory or Hexa?
Anonymous No.23565447 >>23565475
I love Victory and I think all it's kits should get revives but more specifically the Gun-EZ, Gedlav, Javelin, Jamesgun, Zoloat, and Rig Contio.
Anonymous No.23565448
Anonymous No.23565462
For me, the farther in the future it is the better
Anonymous No.23565472
Anonymous No.23565473 >>23566524
Anonymous No.23565475 >>23565558
>>23565447
I want a Galiscon kit.
Anonymous No.23565478 >>23565862
Anonymous No.23565479 >>23565835
Was there a Monthly Mobile Machine 36 last month or the Rock one is still the last?
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Anonymous No.23565558
>>23565475
That'd be great though only after I get my Einrad
Anonymous No.23565583
>>23561431 (OP)
Any new anime coming out in this time period?
Anonymous No.23565612 >>23565686
>>23563399
>>23563381
F100 would be, given its name, some form of tribute to the Hyaku Shiki incorporating next-generation Formula tech and possibly early versions of Saviour project tech, given Crossbone's newest installments are getting close to the formation of CONSENT chronologically
Anonymous No.23565629 >>23566443 >>23567254
>>23564899
Some databooks suggested SNRI basically split and became BESPA and the R&D division of the League Militaire. Actually, IIRC one of the old guys in Victory and Usso's mom were the SNRI engineers in charge of the F99 project in one of the Crossbone spinoffs. Plus there's the Cluster Gundam Kai's connection to the GunEZ and Victory.
Anonymous No.23565638
>>23565149
Yes, it does. It's literally the exact same context that Star Wars defined canon before Disney bought it. There were the Lucas directed films as the strictly official canon, the spinoffs that Lucasfilms was involved in coproducing, and then the licensed third party stuff like the Expanded Universe
Anonymous No.23565649
>>23563302
It also has VSBR funnels on the skirt armor!
Anonymous No.23565686
>>23565612
>Crossbone's newest installments are getting close to the formation of CONSENT chronologically
Are they at the Gaia Gear era yet?
Anonymous No.23565774
>>23561774
That's a fucking Heavy Metal
Anonymous No.23565835 >>23565863
>>23565479
They were on hiatus for the latest chapter, Rock is the most recent one.
Anonymous No.23565862
>>23565478
WhERe IS HE ??!!
Anonymous No.23565863 >>23565865
>>23565835
Welp, that was a decent consecutive run.
I guess they ran out of obvious stuff to talk about.
Anonymous No.23565865
>>23565863
illiterate
Anonymous No.23565998 >>23566000
Where can I read the rest of DUST? Is it even fully translated yet. Since Dex and Comick went under, I've been high and dry.

Same for X-11 and whatever's out of Seerauber.
Anonymous No.23566000
>>23565998
wait till zeonic or scanguard translate them
Anonymous No.23566008
>>23561949
>ywn get GG adaptation where Ikeda plays Affranchi Char and groans in his sexy voice while furiously jerking off in the cockpit.
why even live? it's not fair sisters.
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Anonymous No.23566087 >>23566176 >>23566269 >>23566659 >>23566715
>>23561431 (OP)
Why is it that the more "futuristic" a mecha gets, they all start to resemble Xenogears
Anonymous No.23566146
>>23565156
Gaia Gear is its own thing.
Anonymous No.23566176 >>23566446 >>23570779
>>23566087
Because it’s all drawn my Ishigaki
Anonymous No.23566241 >>23566263
>>23563358
So the big innovation is remembering the anti-personnel hand guns like in Dougram and Dragonar?
Anonymous No.23566263 >>23566337
>>23566241
it's not an innovation, it's a terror weapon
Anonymous No.23566265 >>23566267
>>23564944
That didn't stop FSS
Anonymous No.23566267 >>23566272
>>23566265
don't be obtuse
Anonymous No.23566269
>>23566087
It isn't supposed to be futuristic. It's supposed to be a weird newtype variant with funnels. Its sister units are relatively normal.
Anonymous No.23566272 >>23566293 >>23566296 >>23566315
>>23566267
I'm serious. There isn't a matter of "it's too hard", most obstacles can be overcome with will + money. The question is more whether someone has the will to make a manga of Gaia Gear. I don't think an anime would happen without significant changes to the story since the very first chapters have a huge ass anti-white rant and there's the masturbation chapter but maybe they'd do an adaptation of the radio drama version.
Anonymous No.23566286 >>23566312
>>23564952
>>23564964
Here's something fun that Ogata said seven years ago in an interview:
>――新たな宇宙世紀100年の歴史を描く新作タイトルをシリーズ展開していくプロジェクト「UC NexT 0100」はすごく大きな意味合いをもつ発表だと思います。ここで描かれるのは宇宙世紀の本伝になるのでしょうか? それとも外伝的なスピンオフものになるのでしょうか?
>「本伝です。もちろんパラレルで今までの『サンダーボルト』のようなものもあったりするんですけど、『UC NexT 0100』とついているタイトルに関しては、全部正規のナンバリングタイトルです。これはある意味で決意表明のようなものですね」
Of course, everything is a subject to change, but recent F90 project and Crossbone are a part of UC NexT 0100, meaning that at least at some point those were considered by current Gundam executive producer to be either "canon" or to be adapted into "canon" in the future.
Anonymous No.23566293
>>23566272
come on anon, you're better than this
Anonymous No.23566296
>>23566272
>The question is more whether someone has the will to make a manga of Gaia Gear
No, the question is if Tomino, Kadokawa and Banrise all agree to commission a manga artist to make an adaptation of Gaia Gear. And the chances of that are infinitesimal
Anonymous No.23566312 >>23566329 >>23566330
>>23566286
It’s crazy how fucked the federation gets between UC 0105 to 0123
Anonymous No.23566315
>>23566272
>Five Star Stories: Film from 1989
>Gaia Gear: Nothing animated and it's now 2025, the dark age of anime
Anonymous No.23566329 >>23566352 >>23566431
>>23566312
Does it though? I feel like ever since ZZ their main schtick was repeating "Nothing ever happens." and basically being right every time, because its every problem basically gets solved by concerned citizens (or it is literally a nothingburger like with Unicorn).
Anonymous No.23566330
>>23566312
they've always been like that
Anonymous No.23566337 >>23566356
>>23566263
Adding more vulcans in a different spot than just the head or chest isn't very terrifying.
Anonymous No.23566352
>>23566329
If you keep saying "nothing ever happens" when stuff happens and is solved by not-the-goverment, people stop paying taxes to said government or respecting its laws.
Anonymous No.23566356 >>23567176
>>23566337
>>23563362
Anonymous No.23566431
>>23566329
Im a zoomer who lives in a post unicorn world where post CCA the Feddies have an almost pre OYW strangle hold on the earth-sphere
Anonymous No.23566443 >>23567249
>>23565629
As >>23563411 stated, Zanscare pretty much guaranteed that WoL remained forgotten tech as The V2 is the last Mobile suit to properly have one. This explained why we never seen such tech around the events of Gaia Gear and G-Savior.
Anonymous No.23566446 >>23566459
>>23566176
Is that the prototype for the Zanspine?
Anonymous No.23566454 >>23566503
>>23563411
Zanscare had nothing to do with that??
Anonymous No.23566459
>>23566446
completely unrelated, actually
Anonymous No.23566503 >>23566508 >>23567254
>>23566454
I think he meant the Jupiter Empire as they killed the SNRI folks in S7. Although I don't think they started the Victory series development at that point yet, or at least be fully along enough to where they wouldn't have the data to make the WoL after.
Anonymous No.23566508 >>23567254
>>23566503
yeah that's decades too early for Victory
Anonymous No.23566524
>>23565473
check this out, Jamesgun Ver. Ka
Anonymous No.23566659 >>23566667
>>23566087
So, they all eventually become shit?
Anonymous No.23566667 >>23566674
>>23566659
I said Xenogears, not your mother.
Anonymous No.23566674
>>23566667
Ah yes, so you meant Xenogears a shit, yes, that's true.
Anonymous No.23566680 >>23566686 >>23566695
>>23561431 (OP)
Someone tell me what's the point of UC shows that go past CCA when Amuro and Char bite the big one?
Does ANYONE like these post-CCA shows?

It just reminds me of how everyone during 0079 have all died and makes me sad.
Anonymous No.23566686
>>23566680
Pretty sure everyone in this thread likes them. That's why they're here.

And everyone you ever know or love will be dead in a short few decades, including yourself.
Anonymous No.23566695 >>23566917 >>23566965
>>23566680
there are still plenty of characters in 0079 that are still alive during the time of Unicorn to Hathaway era.
it only get's a bit ridiculous by F91 and truly absurd by Victory when even the children during 0079 would be elderly bed-ridden fucks.
and don't get me started on G-Saviour.

i would say it does get pretty dark once you realize that human society never got better past CCA, and in fact got worse and worse, with never-ending wars sprouting everywhere and technology in decline and Earth being a backwater planet.

sad shit
Anonymous No.23566715 >>23566839 >>23566992
>>23566087
It's shocking how good looking the original RX78 looked like. It's so simple, clean, and easy on the eyes, and yet it's so iconic and unique.

All these other Gundams and mechs have so much fucking doodads/details/panels out the wazoo, no to mention that so many of them have a shit ton of spikes or just plain ol' metal blocks.
They all remind me of Michael Bay Transformers where it's a visual amorphous clusterfuck and there's no simple unique eyegrabbing thing to it.
Anonymous No.23566839 >>23566866 >>23566992 >>23573940
>>23566715
Here's your original RX-78 bro
Anonymous No.23566866 >>23566874
>>23566839
when will Gundam designers learn that less is more?
Anonymous No.23566874 >>23566964 >>23566992
>>23566866
Here's your original RX-78 bro
Anonymous No.23566877 >>23570849
>>23564944
>These designs are too complex for traditional 2D animation
Gundam doesn't do traditional 2D animation anymore, it's almost all 3DCG now.
Anonymous No.23566895
I find it kind of amusing that V2, which is more or less the most powerful machine in UC, doesn't have any built in system to facilitate newtype hax
Anonymous No.23566917 >>23567157
>>23566695
I think the funnier irony is how by 0172 the Jupiter colonies are supposedly ideal and peaceful while the Earth Sphere is in endless Civil War with itself. Meanwhile Mars is where all the outcasts go to ignore both.
Anonymous No.23566964 >>23566992
>>23566874
Why are you lying?
Anonymous No.23566965
>>23566695
>avifag
Opinion discarded.
Anonymous No.23566970
Anonymous No.23566992 >>23567232
>>23566715
>>23566839
>>23566874
>>23566964
What do the crotch squares do?
Anonymous No.23567157
>>23566917
Because the Jovian Sphere has a solid mostly-stanle government that cares about the people. It also has a gun to the rest of the solar system where they can stop the energy fleets so no one tries to invade them.
Their main issue is their crown princess was lost in cold sleep for a decade and is now eloping with a guy going on a Paul Atredies golden path journey.
Anonymous No.23567176
>>23566356
He could've accomplished the same thing with the head vulcans.
Anonymous No.23567232 >>23567624
>>23566992
Crotch square or thigh square? The yellow bricks are like supercapacitors to help the motors
Anonymous No.23567249
>>23566443
The G-Self Perfect Pack has that weird particle propulsion that comes off of the clear parts of its cannon-wings. And the Kabakali's minovsky flight creates some sort of propulsion in atmosphere that lets it fly around. Like halfway between a minovsky craft and the minovsky drive. Considering they're both using ancient UC technology, i wouldn't be surprised if they're minovsky drive derivatives because they're both particle-based propulsion. The Perfect Pack's is probably close to the minovsky drive since it's the main propulsion on earth and space.
Anonymous No.23567254 >>23567292 >>23567302
>>23566508
See >>23565629
Same people

>>23566503
The Wings of Light did survive and get to Jupiter, who made the Phantom Gundam. The data could have survived through them, backed up on some hard drive somewhere even if it's not the real deal. Plus some other people tinker with the Phantom Gundam too in Dust so it's possible that the idea survived.
Anonymous No.23567292
>>23567254
>The Wings of Light did survive and get to Jupiter, who made the Phantom Gundam. The data could have survived through them, backed up on some hard drive somewhere even if it's not the real deal. Plus some other people tinker with the Phantom Gundam too in Dust so it's possible that the idea survived.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Phantom got eventually mass-produced by not-Titans in Earth Sphere and Minovsky Drive used was improved significantly compared to knock-off from the original Phantom (though it is still not quite as good as Victory 2's).
Anonymous No.23567302
>>23567254
yeah we know they're the same people, no secret. But at this point Victory was at absolute most a hint of a twinkle in their eyes, and even that would have been a very different concept than what was made in the end. I guess it's just semantics, in a way.
Anonymous No.23567508
Rig keeps growing on me l
Anonymous No.23567624
>>23567232
Naruhodanke
Anonymous No.23568302 >>23568323 >>23568494
Anonymous No.23568323 >>23568496
>>23568302
I've just been thinking about G-Cannons.
I hope we'll get more variations of it and Heavygun.
Anonymous No.23568420 >>23568490
>>23563175
>holds the record for an absurdly long time
How did they do it?
Anonymous No.23568490
>>23568420
I don't think 3 years is a long time.
Anonymous No.23568494 >>23568496
>>23568302
Hardygun is mostly likely coming next around this month, I can feel it
Anonymous No.23568496 >>23568752
>>23568323
same, though I really wish they made G-Cannon 650 and Magna 700. It would fit in much better with everything else.
>>23568494
or they'll leave it at this and not make another Silhouette suit for a year. It happened before.
Anonymous No.23568568
I love how Font got a harem of 3
Anonymous No.23568621 >>23568724
Gundam will never move on from the early UC.
Why you think they had to desperately resort to an alternate universe UC like Origin or Thunderbolt?
Anonymous No.23568724
>>23568621
Define move on. Because the thing that the Gundam would never move on from isn't even early UC, it is OYW specifically.
Though if you mean that Gundam will never explore UC 0110 and beyond it is a midwit take, especially with Hathaway movies being a thing now.
>Why you think they had to desperately resort to an alternate universe UC like Origin or Thunderbolt?
Because they couldn't reasonably fit it in the regular UC. You'd have a better point if you pointed to GQuuuuuuX, but that opens a different can of worms.
Anonymous No.23568752 >>23568756
>>23568496
They should've just made the G-Cannon a 2-star 700 cost. 750 cost is full of nothing but Crossbones and Neo Gundams I'm one of them
Anonymous No.23568756 >>23568762
>>23568752
that's too much, G-Cannon would be great for 650 but a cost above Den'an Zon and even with F90 is swinging too far in the opposite direction. Having it at 600 sucks mostly because it reaffirms the misconception it's Heavygun's GM Cannon equivalent
Anonymous No.23568762 >>23568767
>>23568756
Isn't the F90 700? And the Den'an Zon should be 700 too. 750 needs more (good) content.
Anonymous No.23568767 >>23568782
>>23568762
yeah F90 is 700, you suggested G-Cannon at 700
And I agree, Den'an Zon should have been the first 700 grunt. It's really not inferior to F90.
Anonymous No.23568782
>>23568767
Misread that. I thought you were trying to say it was above the Den'an Zon and even the F90. The G-Cannon isn't really that far below the F90 in specs, if at all. It trades some thrust-mass ratio for a bigger reactor, but if it detached its guns it'd probably be a solid dogfighter. And they both lack a beam shield. It's really only the Heavygun that's really subpar.
Anonymous No.23568783 >>23568786 >>23568789
I never watched anything past CCA.

Do the late UC shows mythologize the OYW or Amuro Ray?
Does his legend fade to myth?
It'd be funny if folks during the future UC are like archaeologists of sorts and treats ancient extinct societies and do the same for Zeon.
Anonymous No.23568786
>>23568783
nobody cares about some soldier that fought in a war 50 years ago
except religious nutjobs
Anonymous No.23568787 >>23568792 >>23570839
By the time of G-Savior, everyone from the 0079 era is long dead.

in G-Savior, what connections are there to 0079 that are shown?
if none are shown, is it really a UC show?
Anonymous No.23568789 >>23568816 >>23568833
>>23568783
No, and most people don't even remember the Gundam too well. The F91 is only dubbed the "Gundam" in the movie because one girl is like "hey wasn't there a famous mobile suit a long time ago called the Gundam?" Maybe engineers called it the F91 Gundam during internal development, but the rank and file and civilians don't really know about Gundams so they just read the numbers on the shoulders and were like "so this MS is called the F91" until they dubbed it a Gundam based on likeness.
Anonymous No.23568792
>>23568787
are you stupid?
Anonymous No.23568816 >>23568818 >>23568948
>>23568789
Soldiers do remember a bit more. BESPA had several pilots that were angry the LM was using the Victory as it had a Gundam head. It was something along the lines of "how dare you claim to have a Gundam when we have the righteous cause".
So it was a bit mythologized that the "good" side has a Gundam, but that leaves open the question why Zanscare didn't make such a MS head (in universe).
Anonymous No.23568818 >>23568822 >>23568881
>>23568816
>why Zanscare didn't make such a MS head (in universe).
Shokew. Didn't work out.
Anonymous No.23568822 >>23568825 >>23568881
>>23568818
Eh I'm pretty sure that is just supposed to be an insect head like the rest of their suits. It doesn't have the face vents a Gundam does. And the eyes are wrong.
Anonymous No.23568825
>>23568822
nah, it's a gundam through and through
Anonymous No.23568833
>>23568789
How many normalfags would generally know about Gundams in general?
Anonymous No.23568881 >>23568883
>>23568818
>>23568822
Shokew had such a sleek and pleasing design.

I was hoping that it would be the secondary mobile suit for the main cast, kinda like the Hyaku Shiki in Zeta. Marbet could have used it.
Anonymous No.23568883 >>23568949
>>23568881
Yeah I do need to pickup the RE-100 sometime
Anonymous No.23568948 >>23568963
>>23568816
BESPA is former SNRI so they'd probably know more about gundams.
Anonymous No.23568949 >>23568963
>>23568883
it has a good bootleg
Anonymous No.23568960 >>23568961
How many kits are left before they have no choice but to 2.0 this bad boy?
Anonymous No.23568961
>>23568960
infinity
Anonymous No.23568963 >>23570785
>>23568948
I must have blanked on Zanscare's military then as that's who I meant to say. Unless everyone from the first 10 episodes was all test pilots from BESPA.

>>23568949
I saw and might consider it. I bought the Osiris Dominator as my first bootleg this week.
Anonymous No.23570779
>>23566176
Missed opportunity to call it "Zandam"
Anonymous No.23570785 >>23570788
>>23568963
>Osiris Dominator
That's 3rd party
Anonymous No.23570788
>>23570785
same shit
Anonymous No.23570802
Man, I hope some chang at Daban gets pissed off enough to make a MG Dijeh, Bawoo, or Zaku II Kai like they did with the Jagd Doga
Anonymous No.23570839
>>23568787
The things you see in the first 5 minutes.
Anonymous No.23570849 >>23570869 >>23570870
>>23566877
No one wants to see that though.
Anonymous No.23570869
>>23570849
let them cook

find out the customers don't want it

they keep cooking the same thing anyway and make enough money to keep them going but not enough money to stop pushing gundam completely
Anonymous No.23570870
>>23570849
delulu
Anonymous No.23572328 >>23573321 >>23573486
I love Font
Anonymous No.23573321 >>23573331
>>23572328
His plan makes sense but

three nations to balance eachother out.
1. Jupiter sphere
2. Earth sphere colonies
3. A new earth Federation?

Why do that? How is this new Feddie government supposed to be on equal terms with the colonies and Jupiter if it's entirely earth-based with barely any spaceborne territory?
Anonymous No.23573331 >>23573591
>>23573321
Remember the Cyclops would be at the center of it and they're an actual functional military unlike small scale garrisons and militias of the colonies. Even if all these come together into a formal alliance Federation will still have certain advantages over them. Enough to be its own player but not capable of overwhelming the Colonies, let alone with Jupiter as a distinct faction.
What's really funny to me is how Mars isn't even a consideration, it really is an absolute backwater.
Anonymous No.23573486
>>23572328
We know, Belle
Anonymous No.23573523
>>23564935
Why you say Rise? That sounds so sinister. CONSENT as a whole was good for the people who wanted it and only had a few bad apples like Garneaux and other former Feds
Anonymous No.23573591
>>23573331
>What's really funny to me is how Mars isn't even a consideration, it really is an absolute backwater.
Don't worry Uranus Zeon will make it important again when they will use as their main base in the region.
Anonymous No.23573904
yearning for 99...
Anonymous No.23573905 >>23573908
>>23561939
You are a lying liar.
How does it feel to have your pants constantly on fire?
Anonymous No.23573908
>>23573905
it doesn't get better only because you can't improve perfection
Anonymous No.23573940 >>23573964 >>23573970
>>23566839
I feel like Bandai has forgotten that the reason Gunpla was so popular is that they were cheap and easy to build, they were perfect for kids. Who would wanna build this abomination?
Anonymous No.23573964
>>23573940
They have their fingers in all the pies, they're also making new EG kits and producing more RE/100 and Full Mechanics instead of costlier MGs
Anonymous No.23573970
>>23573940
The Gelgoog and Light Guncannon were huge sellers. Scalpers were doing stupid things with the extra Red Gundam Bits.
Anonymous No.23573977 >>23573979
>>23561850
With the character art I agree, I'm not a fan of how he tends to draw the features of his characters and give everyone a wide muppet mouth. I've noticed when his characters get put in games like G Gen and SRW they usually redraw and fix that. As for the mobile suits I think he was doing fine up until around Steel 7, then he went off the deep end. A lot of the mobile suits in the sequel mangas look more like they belong to some goofy country in G Gundam.
Anonymous No.23573979
>>23573977
filtered
Anonymous No.23574272 >>23574444
>>23562054
What MS is that on Vol.2’s cover?
Anonymous No.23574300 >>23574557
>>23562054
I dunno. F90FF manga was boring as fuck
Anonymous No.23574444
>>23574272
Mars F90 Gundam unit 2 with the mission pack N-Type Verethragna
Anonymous No.23574557 >>23574576 >>23575286
Gump is a classic of course, but I think the Buddy/Badi is underrated, its head is a Dunbine reference.
>>23574300
skill issue. Sad!
Anonymous No.23574576
>>23574557
I'm a little bit pissed now that there wasn't a mixing build MS in Dust based on Galbaldy and referencing L-Gaim.
Anonymous No.23574590 >>23574591 >>23576810
For me, it's the Midas
Anonymous No.23574591 >>23576810
>>23574590
I fucking love Midas
Anonymous No.23575286
>>23574557
>its head is a Dunbine reference.
The body looks like something from Turn-A
Anonymous No.23576730 >>23576734
My mum came over carrying some books neither of us recognised asking if they were mine and I get a metaphorical punch to the face because the cover of the book on the top of the stack has the fucking G-Saviour on it.
Anonymous No.23576734
>>23576730
That's fucking wild.
Anonymous No.23576810
>>23574590
>>23574591
I like long leg guy.
Anonymous No.23576999 >>23581090 >>23581124
>>23561431 (OP)
>*casually survives the end of the universe*
Anonymous No.23581090 >>23581124 >>23581369
>>23576999
I mean, not a lot of original Zaku IIs survived OYW, so it only stands to reason that Borjannons would be replicas with open-sourced spec.
Anonymous No.23581124
>>23576999
>>23581090
Wonder if the Borjannons were Oldmobile type Zakus with late UC tech but OYW body/frame or if they are retro OYW models made for historical parades and reenactments.
Anonymous No.23581369 >>23581392
>>23581090
a shit ton of Zakus survived the war because there was a SHIT ton of Zakus built
that said it's very strongly implied Borjanons are the early type RF units or closely based on them
Anonymous No.23581392 >>23581394
>>23581369
No, there were a ton of Doms and Rick Doms built, but most Zaku IIs were destroyed. By the end of the war Zeon had more Gelgoogs than Zakus.
Anonymous No.23581394
>>23581392
no
Anonymous No.23581419 >>23581421 >>23581422
>>23561955
Is the game in english?
Anonymous No.23581421
>>23581419
No it's not and it's extremely text heavy.
Anonymous No.23581422
>>23581419
yes and there's not much talking anyway