Thread 23561893

He didn't say that.

>>23561893 (OP)
>You are saying we should rebuild Mazinger?
IIRC, Mazinger Z was mostly fine by the end of Great, and even if it was heavily damaged, it's probably already repaired by the time of Grendizer, given it sat out for a while till the end of Great, and by the time it showed up, it was better than ever. So Z should be in good shape in Grendizer anyway. All that being said, it would have made the Vega Forces look much more threatening if they had the power to fight Grendizer and Mazinger Z at the same time.

>>23562070
would mazinger even matter? At this point, the powercreep was so crazy I dont think mazinger would be able to do anything.

>>23562086
Power levels are bullshit. The Z went from getting trashed by two Mycenean Mechabeasts at the end of its own show to defeating several Battle Beasts and Generals at the end of Great.

>>23561893 (OP)
IIRC at the end of Great it was mentioned that both were retired and placed at the robot museum as beacons of peace, that being said both can be reactivated as seen in the VS movie but it is risky as the saucer beasts and later Vega beasts were much more powerful, besides it’s not like kouji wanted Mazinger Z to go out of retirement, it served its purpose as earth’s defender. I think the original manga adaptation had both active towards the end

>>23562086
Mazinger Z was powered up at the end of Great Mazinger to be on par with it. Remember that Kouji fights most of the final battle while Tetsuya is busy being trashed and having a depression arc during the final episode.

>>23562086
I would agree with you, but every time Z gets repaired, its power jumps into the skies. See the end of Great for that, Grendizer U is getting a power up from it, and every SRW game with Grendizer in it usually has Mazinger Z keeping up.

>>23562086
Power levels didn't really exist like you think they do now back then. they were always doing crossover movies and shit.

>>23562167
Not canon.

>>23562134
>and every SRW game with Grendizer in it usually has Mazinger Z keeping up.
Often when they're both in the same game they're using crossover movies as part of the source material anyways
And SRW smooths out the extreme ends of strength in general, but you still gotta wonder how good Neo Zeon's medical benefits are for a guy in Geara Doga to charge at Shin Getter's ankles.

>>23561893 (OP)
I prefer the Italian localization.

https://youtu.be/S_jqKBanIG4?si=qX0ZN-nKm740AnTl

>>23562524
how do they pilot or operate machinery when they are doing those hand gestures all the time?

>>23562086
On what actual basis are you even saying that? All these Mazinger bots operate on the same scale, use mostly identical weapons and fight similar enemies. You wouldn't be able to tell at all that one is stronger than another if these shows had no dialogue or magazine blurbs making these claims. Hell if anything Grendizer would probably be seen as the weakest since its chest beam doesn't do any direct damage, it has no eye beams or wind move, there's a lot it can't do without combining with other things, etc

>>23562542
>It has no eye
DIZER BEAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stcwBNq_PY0

the movies can't be cannon. Getter robo appears in some of them, and you'd think Mazinger would have done something about the fucking underground dinosaurs and demons.

>>23562570
In what world do you live in where crossovers are usually in the same continuity?

>>23562682
I don't.

>>23562478
Canon didn't really exist so much either.

>>23562167
>Power levels didn't really exist like you think they do now back then
Astro Boy had power levels. Literal power levels. They were on episode titles.
THE 1,000,000 HORSEPOWER ROBOT PLUTON

>>23562542
I mean, Mazinger Z in the tv finale is completely destroyed by two Warrior Beasts, so power levels were clearly a thing. But, yeah, it's repaired and upgraded by late Great Mazinger.

That said, in Grendizer vs Great Mazinger (which established the Mazinger Z was stored in a museum by the time of Grendizer, something actually referenced even in Infinity), Kouji outright says the Great Mazinger is stronger than Mazinger Z.

>>23562570
Mazinger vs Devilman has a completely different debut from the tv show for the Scrander.

Getter Robo G vs Great Mazinger has a completely different death for Musashi.

The others could fit fine, I think. The crossovers with Getter also only happen by the time of Great Mazinger and I could see Tetsuya just focusing on his mission. It's not like he's even helping out in Grendizer.

>>23562490
>you still gotta wonder how good Neo Zeon's medical benefits are for a guy in Geara Doga to charge at Shin Getter's ankles.
The pay and health are some of the best you can ask for. Sadly, you will not get to use them after Sieg Zeon because there's nothing left of you after 1 Getter Beam.

>>23561893 (OP)
Retarded post.
Grendizer is set a year after Great Mazinger and Mazinger was already repaired and upgraded by that time but it wasn't strong enough to fight the highly advanced Vega beasts.
this show wants to sell Grendizer toys, not Mazinger after all

All I'm saying is, It's Mazinger Z's franchise, he should play a more prominent role.

>>23562013
He did in my sub

>>23562701
Comic books have been using continuity to sell themselves since the 60s at the very latest.

>>23562988
Tetsuya is also still supposed to be hospitalized in Grendizer, according to supplements released around the time. It just never comes up in the series, and they don't touch on Jun. Well, it wasn't even intended to tie into Mazinger from the start but had to by Koji being added.

>>23563197
I heard it was going to eventually bring back Sayaka as a Spazer pilot, but they ended up making Maria instead because somebody at Toei really liked Majokko Meg-Chan.

>>23563211
I've heard that rumor and I think it came from some Italian fans as speculation first, but haven't been able to find anything in Japanese sources on Sayaka. All I keep finding is that Banta was going to be the Spazer pilot but they thought three guys would be too similar to Getter Robo, so they nixed that and stopped using Banta and then had Hikaru become a pilot along with creating Maria.

>>23563254
Well then somebody needs to rewrite this TVTropes entry.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/UFORoboGrendizer

>>23563268
Unfortunately, TVTropes /m/ and /a/ entries tend to be pretty unsourced and full of longstanding rumors or Tokupedia-level autist messing around. Part of what comes with TVTropes, but hopefully someone gets on that.

>>23563275
Do you know where I can find the "Fukuda was fucking Cagalli's seiyuu" rumor?

>>23563275
Yeah, even the gaiking page still references the so called “Gaiking lawsuit” when that never happened, go nagai only left due to unpaid royalties Mazinger Z and Grendizer
>>23563211
Down to the same voice actress, the marketing for that anime must’ve been a success since historically it was the first magical girl show to be specifically and intentionally targeted towards both girls and boys

>>23563278
>historically it was the first magical girl show to be specifically and intentionally targeted towards both girls and boys
Cutie Honey was aimed at only one?

>>23563180
Japan never got serious about sequels until around Zeta Gundam. Before that it was a lot of baton passing with heavy retcons or follow up show in the same vein as its predecessor.

>>23563280
It’s pretty obvious on what demographic that show was aimed towards ;)

>>23563345
Is it? I've head the original was supposed to be for girls, but then Imaishi got his hands on the franchise and it's been for guys ever since.

>>23563348
The story goes that it was originally intended for girls however the time slot it was supposed to have aired on was occupied by another series presumably the forgotten limit-Chan, the only time slot available was in a block specifically aimed for boys so the series was heavily rewritten and modified to the show and manga we all know today. Much to go nagai’s suprise it gained an unexpected female following so the next show which was a more traditional magical girl series aimed on the time slot that cutie honey previously occupied would be aimed for both demographics

>>23563275
Why don't you make your own account and try fixing it? I have my own, but I'm not emotionally invested in Gaiking, so I can't do the job.

>>23563197
>supplements released around the time
Give them to me, give them to me immediately.

>>23563268
>>23563275
I feel like even if you did some retard would just put it back and probably ban you for not pushing rumors as fact. The problem with rumors is that anything can be a rumor and they don't need an ounce of proof and true or not you get the idea in people's heads.

>>23563268
The fact Grendizer U had Sayaka and she pilots a spazer makes this a possibility

>>23564259
Or else?

>>23564283
My patience should not be tested. I WILL cry and that's not a threat: it's a promise.

>>23564259
UFO Robot Grendizer Encyclopedia, which specifies that along with Mazinger being kept at the Robot Museum.

>>23564303
Where do I read that, I'm lonely

>>23564303
Different anon, is pic related the correct book? Asking because for a moment, I mistook your "UFO Robot Grendizer Encyclopedia" for the Grendizer U one.
https://e-hentai.org/g/3442429/521e5a3d64/

>>23564318
Think that should be it, brand was Elm

>>23561893 (OP)
KEK

>>23564281
Grendizer U had Kouji pilot the Mazinger while wearing blue. It's not reliable enough.

>>23564276
I've been on a campaign to toss out unsourced rumors from the Gundam pages, and I've actually succeeded in tossing out all the "Cagalli fucked Fukuda" stuff without getting held up. It's possible, you just need to ask about it before jumping to deleting shit all of a sudden.

>>23564646
I thought it was Fukuda flirted with Cagalli's VA and Fukuda's wife got jealous over it.

>>23564883
You thought wrong

>>23564883
The rumor is false regardless of how it's phrased.

>>23564642
It's why that's the lesser Koji, much like U Duke has less manliness than classic.

What's wrong with Koji's blue outfit? It looks cool

>>23565157
Koji looks far better in warm colors.

>>23565157
It's his uniform for piloting Spazers. If he's piloting Mazingers, he should be in red.

>>23565162
whats up with go nagai and crucifixion? Why does it show up so much in his manga kek

>>23565262
It's a pretty effective way of torturing, humiliating, and sending a message. Plus it's not like Japan didn't crucify people. When the shogunate banned Christianity, they decided that they should crucify the illegal practitioners for public display.

>>23565294
I've heard crucifixion was a popular punishment during the Sengoku Jidai, but that might be embellishment.

>>23565305
Yeah, there's records of them doing it as late as World War 2. From what I've read it was mainly for theft or arson, to discourage imitators that might see. Japan has always had a kink for public humiliation.

>>23565305
They even got a little fancy with it.

>>23565329
Damn, they gave bruh his own ball platform. He must've been packing.

>>23565322
My point was that I heard it predated the Nagasaki massacre.

>>23565377
Oh yeah, I just mentioned the massacre because it was a notable crucifixion event.

>>23565262
Always look on the bright side of life.

>>23562490
>medical benefits

lol this is how Americans think

>>23565391
probably the funniest image ive seen on here. kek

>>23561893 (OP)
Aha, so bottoming to the alien prince was his choice then.

>>23565391
>Always Look On The BOSS Side of Life

>>23565984
>boss on a cross

Did they ever say what the Spazers are made from? SRWZ implies they're made from New Super Alloy Z, same as the Great Mazinger.

>>23567816
Yeah, Super Allow New Z, like Great Mazinger's, but with a Photon Reactor like Grendizer's (光量子) rather than a photonic reactor (光子力) like the Mazingers.

>>23567884
Anime or manga?