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Anonymous No.23566185 [Report] >>23566306 >>23571129 >>23574282 >>23574769 >>23575123 >>23577353
Can we talk about the Hathaway suits for a moment — especially the Penelope?
Like, how is it so ugly, yet somehow, they made it look genuinely cool in the movie?
Anonymous No.23566190 [Report] >>23566407
>Um
>Can we
>Uh
>God
>Can we just
>Like
>How
>Um
>Gods
Anonymous No.23566306 [Report] >>23571098
>>23566185 (OP)
I like bulky suits and I think the XI is really top tier. But the fucking Swan neck on the Penelope looks too retarded for me
Anonymous No.23566407 [Report]
>>23566190
Aww geez anon, give him, like, a break, y'know?
Anonymous No.23568258 [Report]
what is this shit? it looks like a chicken
Anonymous No.23568340 [Report] >>23568342 >>23571129 >>23590895
best looking MS in Hathaway com'n throo
Anonymous No.23568342 [Report] >>23574851 >>23575558
>>23568340
I never noticed.
Anonymous No.23571098 [Report]
>>23566306
Agree, I have nothing else to say because you already said it
Anonymous No.23571129 [Report]
>>23566185 (OP)
all these newer gundams just start to look alike.
just a bunch of spikes and triangles slapped on gundam for no rhyme or reason.

this >>23568340 one is a bit better, since i always liked the classic Zaku, but even this one has problems since there's so much busy details and doodads slapped on the Messer.
the general form and shape of the Messer is okay, however, though i think it needs a bit less angles and more curves.
Anonymous No.23574282 [Report]
>>23566185 (OP)
It’s the weight and heft of the thing. These things are built more like battleships than humanoids but they actually move like they look
Anonymous No.23574758 [Report] >>23574771 >>23574855 >>23575217 >>23575353
Why wasnt Banager Links piloting the Penelope????
Anonymous No.23574769 [Report] >>23575633
>>23566185 (OP)
Quick Question. Just saw the movie. Can novel readers tell me if Hathaway permanently lost half of Xi Gundam's equipment from the botched resupply drop at the end of the movie? They said much of the equipment fell into the ocean. Does Mafty recover the equipment later or is it permanently lost?
Anonymous No.23574771 [Report]
>>23574758
Banana is an oc donut steel that is only allowed to pilot modifications of classic suits outside the Unicorn
Anonymous No.23574851 [Report] >>23575277 >>23575379 >>23575558
>>23568342
People always bitch about it being too dark, but when I watched it in HDR on an OLED (in a dark room like I do with all movies) it looked fine to me and I could see the action. Did anyone in the theater bitch about it? I'm really wondering if either the SDR rips or whatever you are using to watch the HDR rip on a SDR display is the problem.
Anonymous No.23574855 [Report]
>>23574758
Unicorn isn't canon to Tomino late UC stuff.
Anonymous No.23575123 [Report] >>23575215
>>23566185 (OP)
Will the second movies bring new designs? They need to sell new kits after all
Anonymous No.23575215 [Report] >>23575219
>>23575123
Probably will be a upgraded Odessyus model and new Gustav Karl model since they have rezel beam rifles in the trailer but I doubt Xi gets a new model to the 3rd movie
Anonymous No.23575217 [Report]
>>23574758
Didn't exist before Hatway books existed but he would also tell the Federation to fuck off if they asked him
Anonymous No.23575219 [Report] >>23575424
>>23575215
I wonder if we're getting the missile pod/booster for Xi
Anonymous No.23575277 [Report] >>23575558
>>23574851
I watched it again this morning and action seemed fairly comprehensible, there was this image I didn't save of someone showing how mobile suits should look in the dark based on precedent and they also have them look like how the image depicted in certain scenes.
Anonymous No.23575353 [Report]
>>23574758
The Penelope isn't beam magnum compatible plez understand.
Anonymous No.23575379 [Report]
>>23574851
I think the editors have their monitors set to gaming mode which is why it looks so dark. But what they don't realize is that cgi mecha doesn't look good in darkness if you're cel shading them.
Anonymous No.23575424 [Report]
>>23575219
I assume in movie 3 for the final assault
Anonymous No.23575558 [Report] >>23575560 >>23575590 >>23575635
>>23574851
>>23575277
>>23568342
Nope. The director said he purposely made the battle scenes covered in darkness. Because he thought that the idea of giant mobile suits you can't completely see would be more imposing and frightening.
Anonymous No.23575560 [Report] >>23575573
>>23575558
Yes and it was effective but it's nowhere near as dark as the screenshot would have you believe.
Anonymous No.23575573 [Report] >>23575579
>>23575560
>Yes and it was effective
If the Japanese audience complained about it, then it's not effective.
Anonymous No.23575579 [Report]
>>23575573
Maybe I'll get my lying eyes checked by an optometrist then.
Anonymous No.23575590 [Report] >>23575608
>>23575558
There's a lot of appeal in making the mechs a bit more distant and dark and looming, but that's not what they did. They're fully center frame and clear. They're also for some reason always bathed in shadows. It's the worst of both worlds.
Anonymous No.23575608 [Report]
>>23575590
Exactly. It clear the Director had an interesting idea. But his execution was very poor.

If he studied cinematography and lighting, then he would know that objects and dip in and out of darkness. It doesn't make any sense for the characters to be fully lit and visible by the city lights, but the mecha to be shrouded in darkness.

I'm not sure how good modern animation software is at simulating lights and light bounce (seems like something Nvidia Ray Tracing would be helpful at), but the director messed up.

I'm Honestly surprising no one at Bandai told him at test screenings that the battles were just too dark.
Anonymous No.23575633 [Report]
>>23574769
So can anyone answer Tha question? I just want to know if Xi is fighting with a handicap or is lacking equipment.
Anonymous No.23575635 [Report] >>23575657 >>23575710
>>23575558
Meanwhile in an actual imposing and frightening shot from a properly animated gundam series.....
Anonymous No.23575657 [Report] >>23575702
>>23575635
Composition, lighting, and cinematography from the 1990s.

Ah...what a lost art. What happened to this skill? It's like modern animators learned nothing from the past and just spam CGI like it's the answer to everything.
Anonymous No.23575702 [Report]
>>23575657
All the good artists and directors retired or died. Or rather, there's too much anime being produced too quickly due to digital speeding things up. So actual good animation gets buried under the all the mediocre shit and the audience comes in with low standards since everything looks mediocre.
Anonymous No.23575710 [Report] >>23575719 >>23575724 >>23577385
>>23575635
Why doesn't modern anime have this level of shading? I thought computers were supposed to make things easier?
Anonymous No.23575719 [Report] >>23575725
>>23575710
Cels are analog, so they have much more variables(film grain, viginette, lit up with natural light) and produced on film. You can replicate it with digital with a little more work(like the gundam wing anniversary video) but it's faster to just produce shit and have people eat it up.
Anonymous No.23575724 [Report] >>23577505 >>23586348 >>23591165
>>23575710
No money. If you check the credits of a random show you'll most likely see bunch of korean names they outsource the animation to for the sake of cost-cutting
Anonymous No.23575725 [Report] >>23575730
>>23575719
So what you are telling us is that instead of making high quality anime easier to produce at a moderate pace...they decided to make shit quality anime at a very fast paced.

So CGI only ended up help slop tier anime get made more? The amount of high quality anime is the same of even less?
Anonymous No.23575730 [Report] >>23590161
>>23575725
Digital anime started in like 2000, back then computers sucked ass and couldn't produce 1080p video, so they had to ink/color at a lower res like 720p, they couldn't be bothered to make it look more analog(kinda like g-reco's lineart and color palette). Anime went through a "reset" where it looked like shit and eventually everyone got used to the shit and didn't desire good looking anime....they just wanted more moe shit and big tits so anime became cheap shit and stayed that way.

Would've been nice if they just kept tracing cgi like with Unicorn but that's just too much to ask for.
Anonymous No.23577319 [Report] >>23586183
I love him
Anonymous No.23577353 [Report]
>>23566185 (OP)
>Can we talk about the Hathaway suits for a moment

Yes, they look like trash, next topic.
Anonymous No.23577385 [Report] >>23577487
>>23575710
Computers never make things better
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org No.23577487 [Report]
>>23577385
pirating anime is exponentially better with computers compared to mailing blank vhs tapes to canada
Anonymous No.23577505 [Report] >>23579977 >>23584130
>>23575724
How can Japanese studios possibly have no money??? Tomino even said the anime industry is getting flooded by foreign investment and so much money is being made from companies like Netflix or Amazon. What's the deal? Where is all the money going?
Anonymous No.23577555 [Report]
Penelope is a girl's name.
Anonymous No.23579977 [Report]
>>23577505
VAs
Anonymous No.23584130 [Report]
>>23577505
Drumpf.
Anonymous No.23586183 [Report] >>23594675
>>23577319
but does he love you?
Anonymous No.23586348 [Report]
>>23575724
and not all those korean studios are south korean
Anonymous No.23590161 [Report] >>23594333
>>23575730
It's also worth pointing out that digital moreso made making anime quicker and cheaper, the amount of anime that aired in around 2003 ballooned far ahead from the previous years so there's this deluge of mostly dogshit and nips happily accepted this, leading to the current climate.
Anonymous No.23590895 [Report] >>23590907
>>23568340
Marasai 2.0 feels every time I look at it
Anonymous No.23590907 [Report]
>>23590895
Agreed. It's imitating a Zaku, but lacks that certain Zeon charm.
Anonymous No.23591165 [Report]
>>23575724
Animation has always been outsourced
A bunch of episodes of 0079 were animated by koreans
Anonymous No.23594333 [Report]
>>23590161
Wrong.
Anonymous No.23594675 [Report]
>>23586183
I hope so