Thread 23570897

Why is it I only now see how milquetoast Katoki's renditions of the original 5 are

>>23570897 (OP)
you've finally entered his strike zone and understood them

I don't get why people loved Katoki's Wing so much. It was literally just a pallete swapped wing zero custom.

>>23570897 (OP)
The Katoki versions always sucked.

>>23570950
Wing designs always sucked in general, Okawara had already long fallen off by that point

>>23570897 (OP)
Some designs were an improvement, some weren't. I much prefer the GOL version of altron over the EW version. Same goes with wing, I just don't like zero and proto zero.

>>23571694
Nah.
>>23571702
>I much prefer the GOL version of altron over the EW version
Because GOL Altron is just TV Altron (the superior version)

>>23571704
Okawara peaked in late UC and then dove headfirst off a cliff

Katoki is fucking overrated
Ippei Gyoubu is way better

>>23571715
pity reply

>>23570943
That was kind of the entire point, so that their lineage is a lot more obvious. Proto Zero was the "original" Gundam that was designed with the expertise of all five Gundam Scientists, and the baseline from which the other Gundams were derived. They collectively realized that Wing Zero would be absurdly and stupidly overpowered and that nobody should have that much power, but they could still downgrade the design and specialize it for their own individual roles for Operation Meteor.

>>23571704
GOL Altron still uses the Katoki design.

>>23570897 (OP)
Katoki's original 5 Gundams were designed a couple of years after Endless Waltz and were approached as downgrades that were eventually remodeled into what we saw in the movie. Designing something backwards liege that always has weird results.

>>23571804
But it uses TV weapons.

>>23571963
Yes. Still a Katoki design though.

>>23571771
>They collectively realized that Wing Zero would be absurdly and stupidly overpowered

Now remove the Twin Buster Rifle and disable the Zero System. Is it still stupidly overpowered?

People like to talk about the Zero System as if it's impossible to divorce t from the Wing Zero itself, but what about it just in terms of being a Mobile Suit?

>>23573820
That's basically the Wing Gundam, which they DID build

>>23571771
what's funny is that every time Bandai goes back to Katoki to make more wing merchandise there keeps being additional differences between the Wing Zero and Wing through equipment or armor changes to fit new lore that it's starting to become less of a pallet swap.

>>23570897 (OP)
The original 5 were ALWAYS milquetoast

>>23570943
Wing Zero Custom is -ridiculously- popular though, more than Wing as a series itself. So, a derivative design being liked isn't surprising at all.

>>23574280
WZC is garbage and always will be.
WZ is so much better and cooler and stronger (WZC can't even fire three blasts before blowing up LOL)

Wing Zero with the bird wings was always tacky and I'm glad more people are waking up to the fact

>>23570897 (OP)
Those RG wings look too big....why did they did this? Is it because WZC had big wings?

they just randomly decided to changed the MS designs for an OVA and those designs became popular enough for them to make merch off of it for years to come.
It's basically a HiNu/Nightingale situation.

>>23574529
they don't look to big retard
they are too big
just compare it to the anime

>>23574503
Bandai does not care. WZC is a moneymaker.

>>23574529
>>23575083
First thing I noticed with the RG wings. Almost same size as the MG's.

>>23574529
I really don't get why it's so hard for bandai to get the proportions right, the RD looks too slim, the MRS has weird looking legs, the RG has retardedly big wings. The only one that looks half decent is the HG.

>>23574529
>>23575083
>>23575105
The RGs aren't meant to look lineart-accurare, they all have stylized designs and proportions.

>>23570897 (OP)
>>23571694
I never liked the wing designs as a whole because there's no cohesion. They're fine individually, but as a team? the theming is all over the place. G Gundam makes sense, X makes sense, 00, etc. But Wing's designs don't really merge well, they feel ike they come from 2 different shows.

>>23575149
>They're fine individually, but as a team?
They're not a team. They're built by 5 different people who weren't in contact with each other. They make as much sense as G's.