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Anonymous No.23585661 [Report] >>23585691 >>23585917 >>23585929 >>23585933 >>23586542
Do we agree with this ranking?
Anonymous No.23585691 [Report]
>>23585661 (OP)
In regards to?
Anonymous No.23585698 [Report] >>23585873 >>23585926 >>23585930
The incessant need to rank and score stuff on r/Gundam is so fucking pathetic.
Of course they got filtered by Reccoa and have the rankings that pretty much amount to girls which are nice and cordial with their self inserts.
Anonymous No.23585873 [Report]
>>23585698
>characters that are mouthpieces for the creator's politics are good
How about you go into space and see how long you last without a helmet on.
Anonymous No.23585917 [Report] >>23586262
>>23585661 (OP)
I like Beltorchika’s character arc a lot, weird to see her that low even if it is an 8.55. I’d put Quess and Reccoa much higher as well, maybe a 9 and an 8, don’t see a world in which either of them are worse than Nina.
Anonymous No.23585926 [Report]
>>23585698
tomino is just saying real women are as retarded as reccoa. that's not a point in her favor.
Anonymous No.23585929 [Report] >>23586262
>>23585661 (OP)
Sometimes I feel like the only person that thinks Rosamia is both a better character and more likeable than Four. And the episodes she appears in are better too. It's a shame that she kind of sucks in the Psycho-Gundam Mk. II but at least that machine got a good showing in ZZ. This part of the story was fascinating to me.
Anyway, I do think Emma is overrated generally. Sure she fights good and she defected from the Titans which means she seems awesome initially. But then she spends most of the story either on the sidelines or being Queen Bitch of the Argama, slapping people up for not accepting all the bullshit that comes their way with a smile, or chewing them out for having human emotions. It's very apparent that she still remembers all her Titans training. Fa is really the only woman that comes out of Zeta looking like a decent human being.
Roux is like the main thing that makes the first half of ZZ bearable for me so it's good she is up there. Not a particularly deep character but just someone you are glad is there, fun to watch, good rapport.
I understand Reccoa being low of course, her arc definitely feels fumbled and incomplete or unfitting, but that is an incredible score. She's neither pure evil like Katejina or Kycilia, nor ideological like Haman, nor particularly sympathetic like Cima or Hamon, so I guess it makes sense that there is basically no angle from which she is likeable. It's just such a drastically lower score than even widely despised characters like Nina and Quess.
Surprised Sayla isn't right up close to 10/10 since literally everyone likes her. In particular, everyone likes her way more than Beltorchika, who is only a little below her in scoring here.
Anonymous No.23585930 [Report] >>23585959
>>23585698
Tomino is clearly trolling here calling her the sole reasonable person in Zeta. You can like her if you want but this was not a serious comment.
Anonymous No.23585933 [Report] >>23586262
>>23585661 (OP)
Turrible ratings. Reccoa was at least cool for a short while before going batshit insane because she wasn't getting enough dick, while Sarah was on the level of the shitty version of Reccoa from the start. Probably even worse
Plus the Palace Athene is one cool customer
Anonymous No.23585959 [Report] >>23586136
>>23585930
>Tomino is clearly trolling here calling her the sole reasonable person in Zeta
it was a mistranslation, typical deacon.
Anonymous No.23586136 [Report] >>23586139 >>23586445
>>23585959
No it wasn't. Tomino had a fucked view of women prior to Turn A.
Anonymous No.23586139 [Report] >>23586146
>>23586136
>a fucked view of women
lol
Anonymous No.23586146 [Report] >>23586157 >>23586445
>>23586139
Have you watched Ideon? Or read Kycilia's motivations in G-Qux that Khara lifted from the Gundam novels?
Anonymous No.23586157 [Report]
>>23586146
damn you are an actual retard, my bad
Anonymous No.23586262 [Report] >>23586293 >>23586457
>>23585929
>>23585917
>>23585933
A lot of people absolutely hate Reccoa for basing the colony
Anonymous No.23586293 [Report] >>23586457
>>23586262
>basing
Gasing*
Anonymous No.23586445 [Report]
>>23586136
yes it was, both things can be true at the same time.
this interview was after Turn A.
>>23586146
have you watched ideon? nothing is as egregious regarding women, compared to l-gaim and zeta.
>read Kycilia's motivations in G-Qux that Khara lifted from the Gundam novels?
nothing shocking about a fascist nutjob craving aryan children.
Anonymous No.23586457 [Report] >>23586540
>>23586262
>>23586293
but even that's interesting because she also thinks it's a reprehensible thing to do, but she can't go back to the aeug anymore, she'll be killed for being a spy if she tried
she desperately wanted the aeug to stop her from gassing the colony, but could only stall for so long before it looked suspicious, and when ultimately they failed, and she twisted it into justifying her defection
i'm not trying to say she's secretly a good person or anything, but i do think she's pretty realistic in that she fell under the sway of a very charismatic man and felt compelled to do whatever he wanted, even if she personally disagreed with it
in the end she died with everyone hating in the aeug hating her for being a traitor and gassing the colony, and with the titans wiped out there was nobody who would shed any tears for her, just like emma warned her
Anonymous No.23586540 [Report] >>23586547 >>23586606
>>23586457
People (rightfully) think Reccoa is refusing responsibility for something very predictable
This isn't even the first time the Titans have gassed a colony, AEUG exists because of such crimes. Reccoa can't act outraged so late in the war after choosing to defect.
Basically she's turned retarded by Scirocco, which is the kind of thing that always just looks fucking ridiculous to everyone except the person involved. Maybe it's realistic, I can't say I've ever seen it happen personally but I'm sure it does happen. But it still seems pathetic and idiotic, chasing your Id without any concern for morality or consequences is something you are expected to grow out of by the time you reach school age. Naturally people are unimpressed seeing a woman in her 20s do it.
Anonymous No.23586542 [Report]
>>23585661 (OP)
Yes if it's a least realistic women ranking. The lower it goes the more realistic the characters get.
Anonymous No.23586547 [Report]
>>23586540
>But it still seems pathetic and idiotic, chasing your Id without any concern for morality or consequences is something you are expected to grow out of by the time you reach school age. Naturally people are unimpressed seeing a woman in her 20s do it.
being a OYW veteran at young age who has seen their comrades die and getting sexually assaulted tends to fuck with people's minds. It makes Reccoa go out on a dangerous missions to get thrills and makes her second guess her identity as a soldier and a woman. War sucks and her circumstances are not healthy.
Anonymous No.23586606 [Report]
>>23586540
doing whatever scirocco wants isn't exclusive to reccoa, sarah and yazan are also very much swayed by him
nothing is ever made clear with scirocco, but i think he may be using his newtype abilities to influence some of the more weak willed people around him, consciously or not
reccoa was already at the end of her rope after her failure at jaburo, being unable to get char's affections, and then being caught again on the jupitris
she has heaps of issues from her past, due to being a war orphan and child soldier, along with being raped at some point in her past, all on top of being an adrenaline junkie made her easy prey for scirocco
remember that her defection was not an instantaneous thing, she returned to the argama and felt the pull of scirocco and the jupirtis for some time and was snapped out of a trance by kamille at least once, until finally falling into his lap
again not justifying her actions, she clearly had put some thought into it and knew it was a bad idea considering that she warns fa to not end up like her, but there is something of a through line to her turning traitor