Thread 23586188

This shit filtered me hard.

you weren't filtered. it's just bad.

>>23586188 (OP)
How far did you get?
If by the time ID first appears and drops a battleship on bart and co you are not feeling it, yeah you won't like the rest.
Not like the combat in particular ever gets better or anything, and i will conceede the second disc is just a summary of what should be happening, but i still like it a lot.

>>23586188 (OP)
I got filtered by the first rocket punch boss for days until I accidentally did defeated him somehow. All went like an easy slog since then.
Anyhow the novelty of the combo system it has wears off exponentially since halfway into the game. It also doesn't help that some late game maps are designed to make you get lost while flipping switches. The writer got too high on his surface understanding of depth psychology and alchemy to realize the ending isn't interesting or satisfying for the crap you had to get through to finish the game. All the mecha fanservice is superb though.

>>23586336
>How far did you get?
A little bit after the shitty tournament to save the dumb princess, I can't even recall what happens afterwards.

>>23586347
>The writer got too high on his surface understanding of depth psychology and alchemy to realize the ending isn't interesting or satisfying for the crap you had to get through to finish the gam

I loved it >>23587891
but maybe if disc 2 was an actual game the pacing would be better and you'd feel a differently.

>>23586188 (OP)
I can understand no remake (sort of) but how has this not gotten the typical Switch port with a bunch of quality of life stuff that so many PS1 RPGs got

>>23586188 (OP)
I got filtered by the second disk. That was way too boring.

>>23586347
>I got filtered by the first rocket punch boss for days until I accidentally did defeated him somehow

That's because if you don't upgrade your engines to get more output you basically do no damage to him outside of your strongest attacks but since the fuel is the same and the game doesn't explain how output works some people don't bother to get the engines.

>>23588304
Since it's owned by square still, I'd assume they loath it and want to bury it. It's actually kind of amazing it got into the list of ps1 games you could download for the psp.

>>23588338
The second disk is the best part
>>23589075
Not the case at all, they keep releasing figures of the characters and mechs and featuring the OST everywhere.

I've tried to get into it 3 times and yeah each time filtered me hard.
Sometimes it's "what the fuck are these people even talking about" and sometimes its "god this gameplay fucking sucks". Usually I can stand one or the other but both of the same time is usually no fun.

>>23589226
Go read up on Gnosticism and you will get the entire plot.

>>23589256
It's less I don't get the "plot" but more the situation, and what the fuck is happening right now. It's the same whole /m/ thing where they throw you kinda in media res and you're left going like who tf is this guy who tf is that guy and I get it WILL answer it eventually but with shows I can just power through and see what happens. XG gameplay though is so fucking ass that even speeding through the garbage ass battle system and map navigation, it's still not to a point where I'm "okay I'm starting to get shit."

>>23589256
But will it make the plot good?

>>23586256
Nah, the game is great.

>>23594099
If it doesn't vibe with you it doesn't vibe with you.

>>23589289
I mean I got the whole plot but I was a younger man and had more time to care about the characters and the backstories.
So I get it if you are busy or also want to play or do other things in your free time, Xenogears might not be for you.

>>23596498
I think for me the gameplay was too boring, way too much talking around for a half baked story and the actual gameplay was spread too thin into separate sections without any semblance of coherence.

>>23589185
>The second disk is the best part
I really don't understand how it's considered "the best part", unless you're into the story, which is fine. But it's not really a game at that point.

>>23594099
Yes. It's literally the greatest story ever told through Video Game media. I won't say it's the best game ever made since the fights aren't the best and the Disc 2 isn't really a game, but story-wise, there's nothing like it. A true masterpiece.

>>23601682
>It's literally the greatest story ever told through Video Game media
Unique yes, better than average yes, greatest no.

"Here's some lampshading exposition! Well, aren't you intrigued by the word salad?"
"And then, a disaster happened!"
"Here's some more lampshading exposition! This will turn out to be a huge nothingburger by the way!"
"Actually, the latest plot so far was just a build up for this cool anime moment"
"And then, a disaster happened! Man I love a sense of urgency kicking status quo in the nuts. Hopefully you're not bored of this!"
"Hey, about these teammates. Remember they had some story around them during their recruiting arc? We neither, but at least we'll have characters related to them appear for exposition and plot device reasons once in a while"
"And then, a disaster happened! But this time I'm going to wrap it up in a small text dump with a few animations. Just don't ask how come that's enough to cover what normally be 1/5th of the gameplay plot"
"Someone we didn't flesh out just died, isn't that impactful?"
"It'd be much more dramatic if you weren't stopped from eating from this tin can. :)"
"No, Lacan, you don't need therapy. Here, I have some brain nanomachines just for your case"
"I think this was supposed to be a mystic or Jungian reference, but I'm not sure if I got it right so I'll at least make it look like it's awe-inspiring"

If we don't count VNs as games, then, off the top of my head, even SRW originals and most of Deus Ex entries had more coherent, engaging, unexpected stuff going on.
Takahashi should've doubled down on reincarnation romance instead of piles of grandiose drama. Now then it could've been sweet and the greatest.

>>23601682
I think you need to play more games.

The Evangelion of vidya.

Starts out promising, delivers, and then goes to shit due to delusions of grandeur and mismanagement of time and funds.

It was worth the playthrough though.

>>23601729
Evangelion is easily rewatchable, meanwhile I would never replay Xenogears for free