Thread 23612255

Max in his VF-1
vs
Amuro in the Nu

Who wins?

Amuro Because funnel would carry his ass, any other suit, Max would fly circles around him, because you're basically fighting a Zeta but even faster piloted by someone even more collected in the head than Kamille as a prodigy pilot. It would boil down to Amuro needing to pin down the VF-1 into Close quarters melee and that's something VF aren't really known for until Fontier and Delta. Max does apparently have a VF-29, though...so i don't even think the funnels would be much to help him.

A VF-1 would handily run circles around Nu.

>>23612255 (OP)
Whomever the writer wants

>Minovsky particles disrupt radar so it’d eventually end up becoming close quarters
>Fin Funnels
>Amuro’s Newtype abilities
>Psychoframe

Yeah, sorry. Max would put up a damn good fight but Amuro undoubtedly trounces him.

>>23613239
In macross, they all use some super dimensional bullshit radar.
It is not the convetional radar.

>>23612501
>>23613239
VF-1 has a sensor range of 321 km, Nu Gundamm has sensor range of 21km, Nu will be sniped from very afar with reaction missiles

>>23614642
Amuro would dodge them.

>>23614643
Both of them have the skill to render long range attacks useless. As stated it boils down to close range attacks, and Nu Gundam is quite literally not for show when it comes to that. VF1 would be at a disadvantage. VF 29 though, that's would probably more than even things out for Max.

>>23614651
What if Max uses the power of music?

>>23614643
reaction missiles are proximity missiles and they have a blast radius of like a nuclear attack. it just needs to around Amuro's mid range to explode and Nu will be gone

>>23614659
Max doesnt need that, the power of music is a plot device made so that people ask, why don't they just let max literally erased the threat out right.

>>23612255 (OP)
I like Gundam more but isn't the VF-1 literally space alien technology

>>23612255 (OP)
Macross technology is so far advanced compared to Gundam you need to get to late UC before you have mobile suits can even compete with the VF-1.

The AUs are much better for this, like 00.

>>23614661
Amuro can shoot down the reaction missiles just like how Max can shoot down the funnels. Again as >>23614651 said it all boils down to close range attacks and the VF-1 is disadvantaged here because it doesn’t have close range weapons unlike the Nu which has beam sabers. However if you give Max anything with pin point barriers then it becomes more of a toss up due to those solving the close range issue. Even then I would argue that Amuro still holds the edge as he can generally sense what his opponents next move will be.
I want Max to win this but the cards are just stacked against him here.

>>23614731
Amuro would have exhausted his beam rifle, bazooka, head vulcans, shield missiles and funnels and his MS' generator before the VF-1 can run out of 12 reaction missiles and 720 micro missiles (940 if it has the super packs)

Nu Gundam is simply outgunned

>>23614731
Max can potentially win it, Being a new type isn't being able to see into the future in shit. it's just extremely sensitive spatial awareness. Max has pretty good spatial awareness too, but his trump card is how mobile a VF is compared to a Gundam. As long as he can keep up pressure weaving in and out of Battroid and fighter jet mode and doesn't get pinned to long in one mode, he'd be fine. Amuro oddly enough has barely any experience fighting against Transformable suits. he only fought Asshimar notably and that was like the slowest of the transforming suits in Zeta. The only person in UC Gundam you could pair to being a Macross fighter is someone like Kamille, Yazan, or Roux, and even VF's are on another level in that regard, on top of that. Max is literally the inventor of Rapid mode switching in Macross. every pilot in Macross learned it from him.

>>23614768
> Being a new type isn't being able to see into the future in shit. it's just extremely sensitive spatial awareness.
When I was saying Amuro can generally sense what his opponents next move will be, I more so meant he can sense what his opponent is thinking, not that he can see the future.

> As long as he can keep up pressure weaving in and out of Battroid and fighter jet mode and doesn't get pinned to long in one mode, he'd be fine.
>Amuro oddly enough has barely any experience fighting against Transformable suits.
For some reason I had it in mind that the fight would be Battroid vs Mobile suit but you’re right Max would transform and keep the fight mid to long range where he has the advantage. Also it’s weird that Amuro has only fought one transforming suit in animation, I thought it would be more given how common transforming suits are in Zeta but then again Amuro is barely in Zeta.