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Anonymous No.42448658 >>42448709 >>42448710 >>42449068 >>42449071 >>42449073 >>42449174 >>42449586 >>42449599 >>42449610 >>42449611 >>42449798 >>42452069 >>42452363 >>42453757 >>42453942 >>42454353 >>42455257 >>42455445 >>42456994 >>42456995 >>42456996 >>42458473
Can you read a book, /mlp/ or are you too stunted?
Anonymous No.42448685
I think the last book I actually finished was years ago and it's because I was reading it along with a friend and I was able to use it for a writing assignment. It's hard to find something that hooks me especially when I can get my quick dopamine hit from vidya or 4chan.
Anonymous No.42448709 >>42449603 >>42450753 >>42451918 >>42457379
>>42448658 (OP)
Currently reading Anna Karanina. Overrall I'm a sucker for 19th century literature. Last book I read by a living author was Tao Lins 'Leave Society' which is about a asian-american hypochondriac living in Taiwan with his parents, being stoned and in constant pain. It was a cute book but ultimately pointless, especially because Tao Lins world view is uncomfortably weird.
Anonymous No.42448710
>>42448658 (OP)
>Can you read a book, /mlp/ or are you too stunted?
I'm reading For a New Liberty
Giraffe Twi is ought to be executed for her crimes against the populace
Anonymous No.42449068
>>42448658 (OP)
Everyone can read here
Anonymous No.42449071
>>42448658 (OP)
There's no such thing as a good book. All of them are slop.
Anonymous No.42449073
>>42448658 (OP)
holy heckin twilight slide thread
Anonymous No.42449174
>>42448658 (OP)
reading fucking rocks
as far as non fanfiction goes i really enjoyed The Cremator by Ladislav Fuks, Nightclub by Jiří Kulhánek, Taming of the Shrew, and good old Medeia, Clockwork Orange is fine reading material too. I honestly think that most kids dislike reading because they are forced to read stories they wouldn´t be interested in even if they were in any other type of media, there are of course some that are straight up incapable of reading and comprehending text but overall i think they just don´t read because they think all books suck
Anonymous No.42449586 >>42449601
>>42448658 (OP)
does fimfic count as reading a book?
Anonymous No.42449599 >>42451918
>>42448658 (OP)
I love reading, but I'm terrible about following through so I mostly end up reading short stories I can do in an afternoon, thank you Chekhov.
Anonymous No.42449601
>>42449586
it´s letters, it makes you imagine, fanfiction can get quite long. sure why wouldn´t it
Anonymous No.42449603
>>42448709
>tao lin
is he still a /lit/ meme
Anonymous No.42449610
>>42448658 (OP)
Punctuate properly and then ask.
Anonymous No.42449611 >>42451918 >>42457402
>>42448658 (OP)
I'm about 2/3s of the way through The Great Gatsby at the moment. I've been reading it because I never bothered to in highschool. Shame that I didn't it's actually pretty good, I enjoy the casual slurs.
Anonymous No.42449798 >>42449806 >>42453825
>>42448658 (OP)
>stunted
That's not how you spell stupid. And to answer your question, yes, I am too stupid to read books, but at least I'm not too stupid to spell stupid correctly.
Anonymous No.42449806 >>42449825
>>42449798
At least look up the word you absolute faggot
Anonymous No.42449825
>>42449806
Nice screenshot. Now do one for "troll".
Anonymous No.42450753
>>42448709
Anna Karenina was really good. After I got about a third of the way through, I couldn't put it down and I spent the next two days doing nothing but reading it.
Anonymous No.42451245 >>42452475
>reading
Nah, there's objectively better entertainment nowadays like movies and videogames.
Anonymous No.42451287
Fanfictions are leagues better than any traditional book, not even close
Anonymous No.42451918 >>42452434 >>42453820 >>42457150
The last book I read was How God Becomes Real by Luhrmann. The author is on the leading edge of academic interest in tulpas and tulpamancy, and while this book was written before the tulpa studies, her perspective on the cause and function of our relationship to is really enlightening. I mostly just bought it to support her and her work (and pay back for the meal she gave me at her house during the interview) but I would definitely recommend a couple chapters of it to anybody who's curious about that sort of stuff.

I have a handful of 'open books' that I open every once in a while because they weren't compelling enough to keep me engaged all the way through: McKenna's Archaic Revival (too zany), Crowley's Magick Without Tears (kinda feel like I tested out of this one desu), Deleuze and Guttari's Anti-Oedipus (arcane as fuck but still lucid)

In general I only really get into nonfiction books, I love to learn and they satisfy curiosity. I don't dislike fiction but it takes a lot to convince me a piece of fiction is worth my time, I'm really picky. I don't read fanfics or greens generally, although there's one singular author I keep my eye on who does the most beautiful and inspiring character focused stories about my pony wife. If I do go for fiction it has to be something grand and fantastical or really creative - I can't imagine anything less compelling than a novel about a plausible situation like >>42448709 is talking about or Gatsby >>42449611.
>>42449599
short stories are underrated. They totally sidestep my problem with fiction (time investment vs value). Way too many greens etc. try to become novels and generals instead of wrapping up concisely in less than 5-10 posts.
Anonymous No.42452069 >>42452596 >>42452829
>>42448658 (OP)
I've just completed the 'Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn' trilogy.
I liked it, it was a lot of fun. The ending might have been a bit fast, compared to the rest, but nothing felt unearned or unfulfilled, so it didn't bother me.
Don't know what I'll go for next, maybe Tad's other series 'Otherland'.
Anonymous No.42452363
>>42448658 (OP)
books are for uncs, phones are for the modern times
Anonymous No.42452434 >>42452800
>>42451918
Writing a good short story is much harder than writing a regular length one though.
Anonymous No.42452475
>>42451245
This. The worst video game is better than the best book.
Anonymous No.42452585
I just bought some more books.
- 'The Heart of What was Lost'
- 'The Darkness that Comes Before'
- 'Ronja Røverdatter'
Looking forward to getting them!
Anonymous No.42452596 >>42452609
>>42452069
>I've just completed the 'Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn' trilogy.
I've been meaning to read the first part to the second book I bought like 2 years ago, but the pages are too fucking damaged to really enjoy. Sad!
Anonymous No.42452609
>>42452596
>but the pages are too fucking damaged to really enjoy. Sad!
Sad! It's a really good series.
Anonymous No.42452800
>>42452434
I think most of the time all it takes to write a good short story (as far as greens go) is to stop writing after the juicy part is over.
Anonymous No.42452829 >>42456047
>>42452069
Great series. I was really marked by the passage in the first book I believe were Simon wanders in the dark tunnels.
Anonymous No.42453757 >>42453799
>>42448658 (OP)
I read fanfiction, does that count?
Anonymous No.42453799
>>42453757
Only if you print it out on paper.
Anonymous No.42453820 >>42453911
>>42451918
Fuck you, don't (You) me just to be a smarmy faggot.
Anonymous No.42453825
>>42449798
>>stunted
>That's not how you spell stupid.
It sure fucking isn't, kek.
Anonymous No.42453911
>>42453820
geez man it wasn't a dig, I'm just stating my opinions. People in such a hurry to take things personally these days
Anonymous No.42453942 >>42454339 >>42456898
>>42448658 (OP)
I legit can't. Can't process almost anything I read, even paperwork or instructions. I also forget anything I do read very quickly, within seconds or minutes. A medication made my brain work normal for a few months, but the medication stopped working (Wellbutrin) and nothing else has worked. Being able to read books is something I've dreamed of for a long time.
Anonymous No.42453947
I’m enjoying the Sweetie Chronicles: Fragments fic, it’s been what I’ve been reading recently.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/2593/the-sweetie-chronicles-fragments

I’m currently on “backwards through the mirror” pt2
Anonymous No.42454339
>>42453942
>Twiflag
Anonymous No.42454353
>>42448658 (OP)
I only read educational books, since they give a structured way with much less misinformation to learn about a subject. Finished reading overcoming gravity, very practical beginner calisthenics book, and useful excercises.
Havent read a book for fun in a decade (unless you count fanfiction), video games and movies tend to be more enjoyable
Anonymous No.42455257
>>42448658 (OP)
no on god
Anonymous No.42455445 >>42456879
>>42448658 (OP)
Got done reading IF Stone's 'Trial of Socrates' last week. I think it was a kike writer making propaganda to soothe himself in his old age, but it was short enough and had just enough literary value that I'd suggest it to others. Reading 'Algorithms to live by' now after that's been taking up space on my shelf for seven years. This is an easy read for anyone who's mind clicks with statistics. I'll also shout out Olmstead's 'History of the Persian Empire' which is ~80 years out of print but incredibly fulfilling in not just covering how kings came to power and moved borders, but also how economy, taxes, artwork, and pacification of minorities in the empire shifted over hundreds of years. This was one of the best books I've ever read.
As for fiction, I really only read through my collection of printed MLP fanfictions I've accumulated over the years and a small number of books/light novels I enjoyed alot as a teen/early 20s, things by Michael Crichton or the Youjo Senki LN.
Lastly as someone big into motorsports I've gradually accumulated a small collection of racing history stuff but these really aren't for reading as much as they are for referencing and collecting.

Biggest thing I learned once I started having disposable income and could buy my own books: There is alot of just outright garbage out there. I'll hear people say 'read nigga read' but they'll drop the most useless obvious propaganda history books, complete prattling nonsense about self-inserting their own biographies into true crime, the most gooner-ish woman's fiction, or the blandest wish fulfillment out there. There are alot of voracious readers out there who will keep gigantic lists of shit that they have read but none of it sticks with them outside of the barest skeleton, and recs from people going through like 15 or more books in a year are almost always useless because it's all 'random junk in random junk out'.
Anonymous No.42456047
>>42452829
>I was really marked by the passage in the first book I believe were Simon wanders in the dark tunnels.
I understand. Genuinely. That segment is a fantastic example of... I don't know what to call it...
There's a sense of isolation and alienation and transfiguration in there. Simon becomes "something else" for the duration of his blind journey through the primordial caverns. And it's completely born out of a necessity to survive.
It's something I've looked for, for a long time, and very few stories get it right.
The segment you (and I) are talking about, is rather short, but it does capture that feeling of what I want to experience in a story.
Anonymous No.42456434
...buks?
Anonymous No.42456473 >>42456898 >>42456979 >>42460101
Reading is a lot of fun and everyone who fancies themselves capable of rotating the imaginary apple should be doing it. Fanfic is fine, but there's a whole lot of garbage to sift through to find anything worthwhile. If you must, you can pick up any decent book and simply imagine that the characters are ponies. I do this involuntarily.
Anonymous No.42456592
I just reread Listen, Little Man by Reich. Really fearsome critique of, well, human nature and especially the problems we're becoming aware of in the information age, i.e. the psychology and tactics of selfish/small-minded people that make up the common man and the ranks of the government. I don't want to spoil it but it ends on an optimistic note, surprisingly.
I'd recommend it to everybody, especially if you're keeping an eye on politics and concerned about the fate of humanity. It will probably make you a little angry, just keep in mind it's his rant against like all of humanity and generalizes to an extreme degree. Reich, apart from being a psychologist, was a bit of a crackpot and came up with the concept of Orgone, so please excuse his weirdness.
Anonymous No.42456879 >>42456912
>>42455445
You make me feel better about reading only one book a month. I can't stand speed reading. I want to slow down and enjoy the story word by word. I know there are people who read two or more books a week, but I can't imagine enjoying myself at that pace.
Anonymous No.42456898
>>42453942
>>42456473
I struggle to visualize also.
Anonymous No.42456912
>>42456879
I'm a very slow reader also, because I like to take the time to really visualize what I'm reading about. Don't understand why anyone would want to speed read a story they're actually enjoying. I mean I can read a lot faster, I do it every day on the internet, scanning text, etc. but why would I want to do that with fiction I'm supposed to enjoy?
Anonymous No.42456979 >>42457010
>>42456473
Visualizing the apple and where you have it placed is a mental muscle that needs to be worked out. While it's been 15 years since reading it, 'Picturesque America' and 'Picturesque Europe' from the 1870s were the best training for this mental muscle that I ever got. I would never have been able to enjoy most fimfics or ponepaste greens if not for the workout those books gave my brain.
Anonymous No.42456994
>>42448658 (OP)
I recently read Twice Dead King Ruin by Nate Crowley. Its a really fun read and and gives a ton of juicy background and characterisation on the most unknown species in 40k. It has some very interesting characters and the mc is literally an angsty 300 year old teen listening to linkin park in wars and has too many tulpas to talk to and hate equally
The atmosphere is pretty heavy but its not too serious, the prose is pretty easy too and its a fun read overall
Anonymous No.42456995
>>42448658 (OP)
Currently reading the lord of the rings and I'm on the last book
So far I'm bored out of my skull anytime there's focus put on hobbit shenanigans
Like the first 200 pages of fellowship is just Frodo and Sam fucking around until Aragorn gets them on track and things pick up
When it switches to Aragorn, Gimli, Legolos, and Gandalf the books get more engaging for me
Which is weird because I loved the focus on Bilbo when reading the Hobbit
I get it's like that because the grander scope of the world is foreign to Frodo and Sam so it's from their perspective on it but the way it's described puts me to sleep
Anonymous No.42456996
>>42448658 (OP)
I'm reading Honore de Balzac's Cousin Pons, which is a Victorian era French novel about an old art collector who's dying while all his fucktard family tear each other apart trying to get bits of his inheritance. He and a few other characters throughout the story do have genuinely heartwarming friendships though so despite the fairly dark subject matter I'm sure Twilight would approve. Schmuke is basically German Pinkie Pie.

I'm also reading Anatoly Sobchack's For a New Russia, which is basically a memoir/political thesis written by the Mayor of Leningrad during the Fall of the Soviet Union, so it's interesting to see him argue for and dream about a democratic system that ultimately never came to be. Also he got assassinated shortly after the book came out, probably by Yeltsin, but he was also a corrupt motherfucker so he probably deserved it. I'm not sure Twilight would approve of this one because she's super pro-monarchy but at the very least she'd find it interesting.
Anonymous No.42457008 >>42457015 >>42459917
Am I cringe for trying to read HG Wells and enjoying the Time Machine, only to drop it halfway to read Fahrenheit 451?
Anonymous No.42457010
>>42456979
I always like to imagine things. Text-based vidya and books made me imagine what really is happening.
Anonymous No.42457015 >>42457364
>>42457008
Not really
As someone myself who read the time machine it's not that all interesting
Anonymous No.42457103 >>42457128
I finished a cool book on Slavic folklore a few weeks ago. Did you know that in the Balkans vampires turn into/are represented by black butterflies instead of bats? Butterflies sort of represent souls or spirits because of the whole rebirth motif. In some legends killing a vampire without blessing the body will allow the butterfly to escape through the mouth of the vampire. From there it can fly into the mouth of another corpse and make another vampire.
Right now I'm reading Hard Boiled Wonderland & The End of the World by Haruki Murakami. It's kind of neat.
Anonymous No.42457128
>>42457103
Ah, while I'm here, Anna's Archive is a great site for finding ebooks. Project Gutenberg can be hard to navigate and isn't meant for contemporary literature and Archive dot org has gotten super lame with its weird digital checkout. Maybe it's old news to a lot of you, but for those like me who are trying to figure out what an "electronic book" even is in the current year, it's been a godsend. Hasn't failed me yet.
Anonymous No.42457150
>>42451918
>there's one singular author I keep my eye on who does the most beautiful and inspiring character focused stories about my pony wife.
Who ?
Anonymous No.42457198
I'm in the middle of reading First Channel.
Got it in the free books bin at the library, I've been on an oddball old sci-fi kick so it was a great find.
Anonymous No.42457320 >>42457526 >>42459435
>Buy a few books because I need to actually start reading stuff again
>Never even open them
I used to be that kid who would stay up with a flashlight under the covers reading at night.
Anonymous No.42457364
>>42457015
I see. Maybe I should have started with War of the Worlds.
Anonymous No.42457379 >>42457440 >>42457699 >>42459760
>>42448709
How do you get through Tolstoy and Dostoevsky? I read Crime and Punishment, and it felt like the literary equivalent of wading knee-deep in mud.
Anonymous No.42457402
>>42449611
You ought to read "The Front Page".
>"Listen, Woodenshoes, this guy Williams is just a bird that had the tough luck to kill a nigger policeman in a town where the nigger vote is important."
Anonymous No.42457440 >>42457596 >>42457612 >>42459806 >>42460577
>>42457379
Crime and Punishment plot be like:
>man brutally murders a woman with an axe
>feels bad afterwards, which is the "punishment"
>moral of the story: you can kill someone and just feel bad about it and it counts as a fair punishment
Peak russian literature right there. They even teach this moral to kids in schools, Crime and Punishment is in the school literature program in russia. If all russian literature is like that, their kids are cooked
Anonymous No.42457469
I remember reading Cell by Stephen King in school and having to hold my head down so people wouldn't see me crying when Alice died.
Anonymous No.42457526 >>42459435
>>42457320
i know that feel
the hardest part about reading is picking up and opening the book, after that i can read for hours and hours at a time. try leaving the book at like a side table of your favorite spot on the couch or your favorite arm chair, or at your computer desk, anywhere you spend a lot of time really, it helps you remember you actually have the book and when it´s right there all the time you might just pick it up an open it since it´s teasing you. or you can carry it around and replace your time wasting methods of choice by reading it when you´re commuting or sitting somewhere and waiting, basically reading anytime you have some short downtime, the key is to get in to the habbit of reading, after you´re there it´s easy.

tl;dr: avoid storing it on a shelf where you don´t have access to it most of your time, avoid long periods of not reading, once you force yourself to open it you´re basically 3/4 of the way there
Anonymous No.42457596
>>42457440
Unlike Americans who feel no remorse but only feel bad because the state punishes them for their actions?
Anonymous No.42457612 >>42457685
>>42457440
Funnily enough, this is basically the same way the show handles its moral lessons.
>pony makes the wrong decision
>realises her actions have consequences, feels bad
>owns up to it and gets forgiven on the spot
Anonymous No.42457685 >>42457691
>>42457612
Anonymous No.42457691
>>42457685
>"You promise not to mind control ponies again, Starlight?"
Anonymous No.42457699 >>42460596
>>42457379
It's a longer one, but for me, it flew by. Honestly, don't sunk cost Dostoevsky. You'll know if you gel with his sense of humour and the themes he's getting at within the first few chapters, and if it doesn't stick, then you've not got much to show for the few-hundred-thousand words of awkward, rambling prose you're going to have to slog through. That goes more for prospective readers than yourself, however. Which publisher and translation did you read? I can see how it'd be confusing if you read an un-annotated edition, for example.
Anonymous No.42458473 >>42458953
>>42448658 (OP)
no
Anonymous No.42458953 >>42459731
>>42458473
Stupid cunt.
Anonymous No.42459435
>>42457320
Genuinely, just force yourself to read. I've been in the exact same situation, and I had to really strain to actually get going with reading again (it's so worth it).
Yeah, there were a couple of not-so-fun evenings of boring reading (not that the books were boring, I was just stuck in the 'instant-dopamine' mindset of the internet), but once you get into the flow again, everything changes.
This >>42457526 is good advice, also.
Anonymous No.42459731
>>42458953
Rude.
Anonymous No.42459760
>>42457379
I don't like Maud Pie, in fact I detest her. Unfortunately I am Maud Pie incarnate. So I don't think my perception of social interactions do the phenomenon justice. I have also lived quite a sheltered life and have managed overall to avoid violence, betrayal and drama. Reading these authors gives me insight into human nature because so far my fate has neglected my first hand taste of it. I know that the way people talk in Dostoyevsky/Tolstoy isn't representative of real humans, but their actions are. People are nuts and often behave in ways counter intuitive to theirs and their loved ones interests. Reading these two and their ilk offers you, at least me, very valuable lessons. These two authors and the drama that transpire in their books are quite juicy, so when I realized that pretty much every living moment, every meeting of people, every personal history, is just such a juicy and dramatic moment that could happen in their books. Just add terminal digitalization, social atomization, pony derangement, lack of hygiene etc etc and going to a BronyCon would have been complete stimulant overload to me because I'd be psychoanalyzing everything and everyone (most certainly 100% incorrectly). I hold no animosity towards you or people who dislike reading or even just these Russian authors specifically, but I do think in the deepest of my heart that we're two utterely different breeds of people. And I'd say that you're likely the person way better off and the one to be envied, because I am thoroughly soaked in self-perception, unfortunately not narcissistically tho.
Anonymous No.42459806 >>42459850
>>42457440
Thing is I've never murdured anyone and haven't been planning it. As a youth tho I was a very based social darwinist. I think C&P is a good illustration as to why it is impossible (for some) to rationalize bad behavior from a purely ideological lense. Unless you're born a psychopath, or molded into one due to circumstances, it should and probably is impossible for a "normal" person to be killer through rational or at least thought through reasons. Raskolnikov rationalizes that he will create a better world through the murdur of an old witchy crone, but because he isn't a killer at heart and merely by an attempted sincere ideal, he commited the crime through youthful folly. Your little reduction, while humorous, indicates that you either didn't understand the novel, or its fundamental message somehow offends you (not unlikely, some people are easily intellectually offended just like Raskolnikov) so you decide to derride its message as if it is somehow indicative of a pecuiliarily poor characteristic of the Russian nation, something which Dostoyevsky might have agreed with you on, for as much as he loved Russia he shat on it a lot.
Anonymous No.42459850
>>42459806
NTA. Good commentary. I think Raskolnikov is designed to resonate with twenty-something doomers who secretly think they're the only sentient human on the planet, so if you either aren't in that headspace or you've already overcome it, it might be tough to understand where he's coming from. Still, as a western reader coming in a century and a half later, I can still readily understand and empathise with all of Dostoevsky's characters, so it definitely isn't an issue of a cultural divide. Methinks anon's biases are leaking in to justify him simply not enjoying the book.
Anonymous No.42459886 >>42459897
what would his favourite pony be
Anonymous No.42459894 >>42461090
Hey, has anyone checked the property line lately? I think the board next door is getting in.
Anonymous No.42459897
>>42459886
trixie because she was gonna get vored by that manticore because she was :(
Anonymous No.42459917
>>42457008
Yes. Incredibly. You were enjoying the book and you quit? LMAO why. Scratch that don't answer that, I am dropping this conversation halfway through to reply to another com
Anonymous No.42460101 >>42460123
>>42456473
What books have you read that you have visualised ponies and it made the book better to read?
Anonymous No.42460123
>>42460101
I couldn't shake pony imagery from my reading of Kafka's In The Prison Colony. There's absolutely nothing pony about the narrative, so I guess I was just too mare-brained at the time to keep them from getting into my mind's eye. It's a perfectly good story on its own, so I wouldn't say it needed ponies to enhance it, but it did amuse me to superimpose them over what I assume was the intended mental image. Up until the machine got to work.
Anonymous No.42460577
>>42457440
Omitting some very important plot points.
>man brutally murders a woman with an axe
Raskolnikov murders a woman whom he deems a wicked parasite who's better off dead to the world. He murders her while believing himself to be a great man who has been ordained to make such decisions for the betterment of mankind and thus, not a true crime.
>feels bad afterwards, which is the "punishment"
His murder is witnessed by the pawnbroker's sister whom he also murders, and this causes him to feel bad because she was innocent in all this. Now he has committed a crime that he cannot justify with his warped superman morality. The crime and punishment refer not only to Raskolnikov's murders and his guilt/paranoia, but the philosophy that led him down this road: What constitutes an actual crime? The letter of the law or something more universal? How should those who commit the latter crimes be punished and by whom? What gives someone the right to exact such punishment?
>moral of the story: you can kill someone and just feel bad about it and it counts as a fair punishment
He feels bad about it throughout the book, but that guilt doesn't matter nor does his punishment under the legal system. The epilogue establishes that punishment falls secondary to growth of character. Raskolnikov realizes that he is not a superman who should be allowed to act as judge, jury, and executioner. If he were to be released without having had that revelation, there'd be no change. Part of him would still believe that half of what he did was right.
Anonymous No.42460596
>>42457699
>it flew by
Crime and Punishment did?
>You'll know if you gel with his sense of humour and the themes he's getting at within the first few chapters
I go the themes and found it interesting on a philosophical level, but the prose bogged me down.
Also, humor? There's humor in that book?
>awkward, rambling prose
It's strange. There's some awkward, rambling prose that I enjoy. I like Lovecraft's overly-verbose Anglo larping, and I've always found James Joyce's prose to be enchanting. After 5 attempts, I even came to appreciate Dune. But reading Dostoevsky exhausts me.
>publisher and translation
I have no idea and would have to dig through everything to find my copy. I don't think it was annotated though.
Speaking of sunk cost though, I've been entertaining the idea of trying Les Miserables. The 1998 adaptation with Liam Neeson is one of my favorite movies. I'm guessing the novel is extraordinary as long as I can get into it and appreciate it. Fuck the "Lay Miz" musical faggotry through.
Anonymous No.42461090
>>42459894
nah it's all good