Thread 127122330

Or am I just "thing, Japanese thing-ing?" Could it surpass the sovl of its black American roots?

>>127122330 (OP)
j-fusion would be the only type of jazz that could be argued as better, but it's pretty distinct from american fusion

The japs can't even touch Davis let alone Mingus.

almost all of the harmony and tonality of jap jazz has already been done by powell and brubeck

jazz fusion is one of the most overrated genres of all time, regardless where it comes from

Listen to Hank Jones, my nigga

>>127122330 (OP)
I like hearing Japanese jazz pianists in jpop. I mean, you can tell a lot of them are jazz trained.

>>127122613
>most overrated genres of all time
quantify this statement in ANY way. seriously. i've never once heard someone in real life say they like jazz fusion, let alone japanese jazz fusion. say "casiopea" or "t-square" to the average person in the street and they'll have no fucking clue.
and, what's the american equivalent? Weather Report? when was the last time you heard someone say that was their favorite band?
this reply has to be bait with how much of an unsubstantiated such an assertion is. OP's album isn't even jazz fusion.

>>127124072
i've never even heard someone talk about jazz fusion outside of specifically threads mentioning jazz fusion specifically or the comment sections of jazz fusion songs.

>>127124186
I have and I've been listening to jazz for nearly 30 years. Fuck off kid.

>>127122330 (OP)
picrel is whatever but casiopea is peak

>>127124388
not big on either but i agree that the mario kart band is far more emotive and interesting than shitty barry harris

>>127124388
T-square is also great
>picrel is whatever
it's alright, but it's not super original. the problem is it got big a few years ago with people who've never really listened to Jazz before, that synthesized with the whole 'thing, japan' phenomenon and lead people to gush over this album unwarrantedly so. that being said, it's still pretty good.

anyone have any recommendations for artists like himiko kikuchi? both western and japanese is fine

>>127122330 (OP)
Aesthetically yes. Technically no.

Jazz doesn't sell well.Be a red nose.
https://youtu.be/kUgguQk7e_g?si=89aN68tWrJejpYba

>>127122330 (OP)
jap jazz has a sterile mechanical perfection which ruins its jazziness.

>>127124591
Yellow Magic Orchestra, or any of Haruomi Hosono's projects

>>127122330 (OP)
they have always been copycats from the beginning, downbeat even wrote about it in their first article on japan

>>127122330 (OP)
The japanese have zero soul. They are the richest average people on the planet, they suffer from nothing but meme loneliness and live in the safest most comfortable place in the world. Meanwhile the original american jazz dudes were social outcasts living on the edge, focusing their whole existence on their craft and their addictions, they threw everything away for a chance at showing the world what they were capable of. If you can't tell soul apart then you should just give up.

no

>>127123928
I like George Duke, and his best stuff is fusion.

>>127126313
Define "soul", just not being in control of your emotions?

>>127126865
Literally who? Proving his point.

>>127126313
If soul is created from the existentialism brought on by living conditions than you could argue the unique existentialism of living the Japanese lifestyle could lead to soul in the same way poverty does for niggers. It’s not fair to say only the specific struggle of niggers in america is capable of producing soul, especially if your main reasoning is that the struggle alone is what makes them unique. Everyone has struggles to draw from and the Japanese are especially capable of putting their craft before their well being. It’s even an aspect of their culture to do so. And if you’re going to somehow shit on this or call it fake, remember you’re arguing that the life of a struggling alcoholic is more self devoting to art than people who will work themselves to the bone for little pay, just for a chance to get their work out.

>>127122330 (OP)
No.

Just like with any other country, all the best Japanese jazz artists lived and worked in America.

Also, the best countries for jazz outside of America are actually Denmark, Italy, Finland and Brazil.

>>127126870
Soul is channeling higher ideals into an earthly vessel. Look no further than samurai. The Japanese invented soul.

>>127122330 (OP)
>Or am I just "thing, Japanese thing-ing?"
this
you are doing this

>>127126896
>you’re arguing that the life of a struggling alcoholic is more self devoting to art

He has something to express, lived experiences, suffered. All things Japanese never do, because they escape into their cartoons and gadgets instead of actually having a life.

>>127126911
sweden and portugal have nice scenes as well

>>127126932
>All things Japanese never do
True, they just copy the west in every thing, although they oftentimes do it better.

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>>127126911
Japan bought up most if not all looms from the US sometime either in the late 70’s or 80’s. The looms were phased out because they had no inconsistency’s with weaving fabric leaving the fabric with more texture and depth. The Japanese turned that ‘flaw’ in the vintage looms into an aesthetic art form making some of the best heavy denim IMO. Then dig into rope dying denim with real indigo over ink dyes.

Japan doesn’t fuck around when it comes to any craft, the master it. I’ll never wear anything else that Japanese denim. Japanese pressings are great too.

>>127126896
That’s very nice and all but doesn't change the fact that all japanese jazz is derivative garbage vastly outmatched by american AND european jazz musicians, europeans who don't get even an ounce of the worship japanese get because there's no sugoi kakoii aesthetic linked to them that could attract masses of internet tourists who have zero interest in the actual music and simply want to use it as a fashion accesory for their deluded idea of what life is like.

>>127126890
The absolute state of /mu/

>>127122330 (OP)
>Or am I just "thing, Japanese thing-ing?"
its literallly just this, and it doesn't take much knowledge of/experience listening to jazz to figure this out.

>>127123928
That's a you problem lmao loser, L take

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>>127127294
did you even listen to OP album? It is phenomenal

>>127127477
Everyone and their mothers have already listened to it. Now the question is, how many other jazz piano albums have you listened to?

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>>127126932
All jazz is derivative and life is life. Just because Europeans act like they reinvent everything they touch doesn’t make what they do any less derivative than when Japanese do it. When the Japanese take on a form, they often improve upon it while respecting the inherent nature of the form. Just look at the Beatles. Came to America, went back to the UK, started getting more into soul music, transcendental hippie BS, folk rock (Bob Dylan, Byrds, etc), and the LSD movement before smushing it all together. Consequently everyone acts as if they reinvented rock and roll with Rubber Soul not realizing they were falling for something similar to “thing, but Japanese”. Then regarding living, the average Japanese has worked harder than the average nigger across all decades of time.

>>127127319
Nobody knows who this is nigga

The Japanese are good at imitating but nothing else which is why they have fallen behind for decades and live off legacy soft power media aimed at balding millennials

>thing, :|
>thing japan, :o

>>127127699
There's a reason European jazz is considered a genre by itself, they did create their own thing. When you describe an album as "European jazz" you know exactly the kind of sound you're gonna get. You are just embarrassing yourself showing how little music you've listened to and proving you're just a japanophile with no arguments beyond stupid esoteric shit ala muh honorabru samurai they perfect their craft wow

Well, Japan doesn't have Miles Davis so... no.

>>127122330 (OP)
/mu/tards are so mindbroken that at this point that they automatically hate anything that's Japanese.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE THAT, MY HECKING BLACKERINOS DID IT BETTER

>>127128003
Not really. There are styles we typically associate with Europe (European free improvisation, ECM style jazz), but they all have American analogues or American antecedents..

>>127126313
their entire country has been economically stagnating for 30 years

>>127128048
>/mu/tards are so mindbroken that at this point that they automatically hate anything that's Japanese.
OP said it was better than american jazz and it isnt. OP image is mid

>>127128419
I'd say it's straight up quite bad actually. No idea why weebs are obsessed with this rather than someone like Toshiko Akiyoshi, who is not only an extremely legit player but also a woman(!)

>>127128408
Oh no that's a tragedy

>>127128048
Lmao my nigga bill evans did it better and hes just a quirked up whiteboi with a little sauce on

>>127128048
>MY HECKING BLACKERINOS DID IT BETTER
they did it first and they did it way, way better

>>127128908
>they did it first
Jazz is Irish

>>127128936
Which Irishman could play as good or as innovatively as Bird?

>>127128949
Larry Bird, famous NBA player?

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>>127128867
Are you religious? Then every human being has a soul. Are you not? Then no human being has a soul. There is not in-between and no religion that believes in the soul thinks there is an inbetween in any capacity, this meme is retarded.
>Inb4 muh hylics
It's a concept only taken seriously by people who were too schizo for the Christian church (Gnostics), get better material for fucks sake. I am sick and tired of this shit being said every thread
>X DOESN'T HAVE A SOUL
>THEY DO HAVE A SOUL, Y DOESNT HAVE SOUL
>BUT Y DOES HAVE SOUL BUT X DOESNT HAVE A SOUL
>REEE NO Y HAS A SOUL
>NO X HAS SOUL
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARDED FAGGOTS, I HATE ALL OF YOU, I FUCKING HATE YOU. X AND Y HAVE SOUL AS LONG AS THEY'RE HUMAN, SHUT UP ABOUT THIS ARGUMENT, IM SICK OF IT, EVERY FUCKING THREAD ABOUT NIGGERS, JAPS, AND ANY RACE IS LIKE THIS. YOU ARE RETARDED, R E T A R D E D. SHUT UP

>>127124400
limp dick response kwab

>>127122330 (OP)
This album sucks btw
>>127122532
Not even remotely true. No fusion touches the fusion era of miles davis

>>127124715
it's crazy how stubborn and obnoxious most j-jazz is, sounds exactly the same as it did in the mid 70s and refuses to evolve. sad.

>>127127268
your "English" belongs in a torture chamber

>>127127294
All latin jazz and all arabic jazz is more interesting than asian jazz. asian jazz is one of the worst kinds especially these days.
>>127127477
there's no way you're over the age of 23

>>127127699
>All jazz is derivative and life is life.
You have no idea how to sound smart let alone defend your own nonsense beliefs properly, do you
>>127128397
Japanese jazz is far more Americanized than Euro jazz, larping tourist

>>127129734
Depends on what European scene we're talking about. But even in the cases of the pan-European styles, we're basically just looking at guys doing a bad impression of Shepp, Braxton, Coleman, Taylor or Jarrett, depending on what decade we're in and what players we're looking at.

>>127129853
better than bad impressions of list goes on types which is most jap jazz

>>127129986
i don't see why you're under the impression that I'm here to defend Japanese jazz. My stance is that American jazz is naturally by far the best, and that good non-American performers all either live and work in America, or exist in scenes highly intertwined with American jazz, such as the Italian and Danish scenes.

>>127130022
I'm not defending either one, either. They're both the most mechanical and soulless jazz types out there but the Euros have more tricks up their sleeve for sure

>>127130031
That I would certainly agree on.

if you're gonna simp for Japan at least simp for something they do well like horror movies or classic literature

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>>127130044
Splendid, neither of you actually listen to any jazz. Good to know

>>127130280
you want to sound smart and le sophisticated so bad

>>127122330 (OP)
what's with the fascination with this fucking album? is mid jazz piano. if this impresses you Bill Evans or Oscar Peterson should blow you away. is it just another case of "thing, but JAPAN"?

so stupid that these obvious bait threads are always more bussin than /jazz/

>>127131283
he died and then totally uncoincidentally the album went mega viral via youtube algorithm. pretentious hipsters shilled him as some long lost iconic genius because they don't know the first thing about piano trios lmao. also the artwork is actually pretty good.

>>127122330 (OP)
Thank you for sharing that you're fat and retarded. Anyway no,you do not in fact "listen to jazz". Stfu.
>>127131010
So does weeaboo anon haha. See previous comment. None of you have a genuine interest. You like anime osts and only "jazz" that sounds like that probably. Hence the total universal lack of knowledge of soul music and the obsessive hatred of videogame Soundtracks aswell as classical.

>>127133420
i barely play video games and i havent paid attention to anime in years. i listen to oliver nelson and eric dolphy, retard, relax.

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>>127133369
It is far more virtuoso than your meme black men. He can actually play.

>>127133482
You play many videogames haha

>barely pay attention

Which is admitting that you actually do. I work at a fucking car wash. I own a used ntendo wii with nothing to plug it into. You're not fooling anybody. Just admit to liking what you like and ig get judged accordingly for it.

>>127133491
Soul Musicians mog virtually all Jzz Musicians and were virtually all like black southern baptists thoughbeit.

Maki Asakawa is my favourite JapJazz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrLyGpIqFM&list=OLAK5uy_mQbsKVmCOR3riHEK1aolCddzXXDxLKYfY

>>127133510
did you just cut and paste and rearrange my fucking quote to strawman me out in the open? like a fucking retard? LMAO

>>127133482
>you not being retarded
>you actually listening to either of those people regularly

You meant either lo fi beats to study too or the persona 5 soundtrack.

>>127133561
Spastic ahh response. No I'm fucking working it's just slow rn. I don't have the time nor energy to be doing that. I'm just stating what is very very obviously true.

>>127133491
Bill Evans was a white nerdy looking dude and could play circles around your mediocre tiktok trended jazz artist

>>127133536
hi nico tranny, we missed you

>>127133614
>i concede
i accept

>>127133561
The tard rage and the focus on everyone else being stupid except our big special boy is part of how I know you're not actually listening to jazz on the regular. Dad probably told you to say this to seem less creepy to bitches.

>>127133677
Oh shit you're talking in the pre programed phrase retard speech again haha. So anyway you meant Persona 5 ost music. Glad I could help clarify. The meltdown makes it all worth while.

>>127133576
you have no idea who marion brown is do you lmao

>>127133639
I'm not trans. That's wyou being schizophrenic unironically and also probably rightfully insecure in your manhood which you just barely have given your disheveled nature and lack of excersize. But no you do not "listen to jazz". Shut the fuck up hahaha.

>>127133491
>can't improvise without repeating triplets over and over
>virtuoso
>>127133510
Not paying attention to this autistic chain of comments but reddit spacing so you lose.

>>127133732
Neither do you. I do know who Claude Vivier is though. Gonna be funny when you wake up one day and realize you're not too bright. Jazz is irrelevant btw.

>>127133746
i'm trans btw

>>127133781
You're literally a retard. That's why you're so defensive over it. Nl yu do not "listen to jazz",the make believe shit is sad. You wear a fedora in public and pretend to maybe but no.

>>127122613
you dont talk to people irl do you?

Those anime osts aren't real jazz and don't count haha. Stfu singularity

>>127133838
That's good for you. Either way you're not getting your dick sucked by larping like this. Probably being on my phone too much though. Will continue this later.

>>127122330 (OP)
It's not even superior to Chinese jazz.

>>127122330 (OP)
>Is Japanese jazz superior to American jazz?
Yes, but only the real shit, not the fake plastic trash they hype up on Youtube and TikTok these days.

>>127133931
He's saying this because he's a fat glompy retard/future rapist and he doesn't actually listen to jazz. He listened to his "example artists" once or twice and is actually talking about anime osts. Most of you have probably listened to more videogame Soundtracks than I have but if you bring them up you all go into a fit of rage,etc,etc. It's fine. You can stop pretending to have interests beyond gaming and anime.

>>127133984
They're talking about Pogcel Zoomer Genre not jazz hahahaha

>>127134030
I know that's what I meant by plastic trash

>>127133887
Some count, and unsurprisingly none of them are Japanese

>>127134051
True but if it wasn't they wouldn't listen to it. Too scary and challenging.

>>127131283
it is 'thing, Japan' 100%

>>127134076
Whoa! Is actually just a videogame soundtrack,what did you know? I'd take BGM or Chiptunes over what you tards think is Jazz easily btw haha,actually jazz aswell. I get your personal insecurities prevent you from admitting jazz is boring dogshit and also that you have literally never listened to it though.

>>127134339
>Is actually just a videogame soundtrack
pajeet detected. opinion discarded.

>>127122330 (OP)
That album is shite, I don't understand why is it held in such a high regard. It is totally unremarkable

>>127122330 (OP)
is that le japanese man that taught himself how to play at age 26 that means we obese weeaboos still got time and hope of achieving something!? zaaayuuumm its like an anime but irl lol thats craazy

>>127134361
I'm not. I work with them though and desu would probably get back with my Desi ex haha. Provided she yk learns to manage money a bit and time tbqh. I work with FOBs and most of them are chill though idrg why you guys hate Indians so much in particular.

>>127134393
Yeah this is the audience for it. Why gigazoomcels like it.

>thing, japan
>pushed by algorithm
>easy to get into, can say you like a jazz album
>has mystique

it's just very appealing to the normal faggot. maybe it's the cowboy bebop soundtrack of our time.

>>127123928
My high school band teacher's favorite band was Weather Report. He was a faggot though so I think you're right in theory.

im convinced this is all some sort of weird long form viral/guerrilla marketing attempt to move this shit record
it makes sense if you think about it

>>127122330 (OP)
desu zoomers just want to latch onto things they think seem cool for social status and end up driving them into the ground. their nasty claws take everything and they just make the conversation around it dumber. they never even search for their own shit to gloat their "taste", just whatever's been trending. soulless cattle behaviour.

>>127134450
Yeah also this. It's retardbait haha. Almost nobody actually cares about jazz anymore. It's a dead medium largely because it was boring and honestly pointless. Soul Music replaced it because it's good.

>>127134339
you want to sound so special so bad
>>127134450
cowboy bebop at least has a couple good songs, scenery is extremely derivative and only impresses retards

>>127134666
You're a retard haha. Guessing you couldn't memorize that yourself?

>>127134684
I don't. I was literally diagnosed at 7. I wasn't lying about that part. I am special and it is quite honestly a source of great insecurity. You're projecting. If I could feel less special i would.

>>127134684
Yeah and that's your only reference point for it. Please give this up. It's depressing.

>>127134674
This. It's because they're sexually and also intellectually. It's a crutch. They're not even listening to it in full probably.

>>127133848
>calls someone else retard
>can't use the word literally properly

>>127122330 (OP)
>retroactively refuted by T. Monk at your own game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Q_AGKtvJg

>>127134361
he's not a pajeet, his gf is

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>>127134855
Ok. Doesn't negate that I'm right desu.

>>127134789
I was using it very properly.

>>127134888
ummm literally actually it literally does

>>127134918
Interesting. You don't listen to jazz either haha.

>>127134926
Cope and mald more larping tourist. You will never be le smart and you will never be le sophisticated.

>>127134918
I meant im the medical sense haha. But no you do not listen to Jazz. Fit throwing will not cause this to suddenly be true.

>>127134984
>"larping tourist"

You are mentally incapable of processing music haha. It's fine. Go back to discussing anime and gaming. I've spent years of my life actually playing. None of you listen to jazz. You would hate jazz for the same REAL REASONS you aggressively hate videogame Soundtracks and classical. This isn't a real discussion nor somethimg that actually happened. I don't have to engage it as if it is.

>>127134995
unironically what are you listening to right now? i'm listening to cassandra wilson, surely a fedora smoking pipe wearing gentleman like you knows her?

>>127134984
>"will never be Le smart or sophisticated"

This is you projecting. I don't really care least not yk. I just actually like music. Something most of you probably can't comprehend because it's less funko pop than "liking" /mu/core is. 90% of humanity is more "le smart and sophisticated" than you are though. That's why you have such obviously fake insecure takes on everything.

>>127135026
Unironically? Idk man I just got off work. I'm trying to decided if I'm spending my tips on dispensary weed or on food. I'll probably be happier on some level if I don't get more food but eh. I'm unironicslly like gucking mick German Dutch so my hands fucjing burn from the sun haha. I don't tan. But yeah idk man. I'm just tired right now. I don't think i even processed what you just said to be incredibly honest.

>>127122330 (OP)
I'm not sure but Casiopea is top tier

>>127135026
I do not own a fedora nor smoke out of a pipe. Nice projection though. Yes this is how you sound and are pretending to like that crap haha. I work at a fucking car wash man. No but I like prog and classical more desu. I know that won't get me cool points but whatever. Soul Music is based though. I like that much much more than Jazz.

>>127135020
touched a nerve huh, kek

Sinatra is jazz right?

>>127135193
No not really. You still do not actually listening to jazz though. That would be j pop.

>>127135193
The discord admin speech patterns are not making it more convincing either I'm gonna be real with you.

>>127133818
>he admits it

>>127135213
Yes. He plays both pop and jazz, sometimes separately and sometimes together, which is apparently too nuanced a concept for some people to understand.

>>127135446
You have this really aggressive spastic retard energy. I'm gonna assume you fo not know. I listen to actual classical. It is in fact too intelligent for you yes. You are literally literally retarded.

>>127122330 (OP)
I'm a pretty massive weeb and will defend Japan on a lot of fronts but not on this one. Tsuyoshi Yamamoto is the only Japanese jazz artist that I've come across that really stands out but he's no Bill Evans

>>127135552
You don't actually listen to jazz either though haha. But at least you're honest about where you stand. Not trying so desperately to seem cool.

>>127135020
>anime bad
>videogames good

Your autism has developed multiple personalities

It's crazy how the people most opinionated on jazz by far are people who just started listening to it or admit they don't but are addicted to the culture wars nonetheless. I will sit here listening to Sun Ra watching you all squirm like ants drowning in raccoon vomit.

>>127135614
I don't actually like gaming that much either. But in terms of pacing THE MUSIC THEY USE is better. Specifically I mean Chiptunes and BGM maybe some stuff from horror and fantasy titles. I'm mostly just thinking electronic music. I don't like J Pop and like spacy electronics prettymuch. But the music often used in anime does definitely upset I think most people with a functioning attention span. Gaming itself I'm not as into. But some older videogame music is fascinating due to technical limitations. Maybe though idfk. I'm tired and my back hurts. I might say fuckit and get food haha.

>>127135552
>Tsuyoshi Yamamoto
I'm interested, favorite songs or albums of his?

>>127135793
See now you I believe

>>127135815
Wild how you all pretend to like this crap but not compositional forms actually relevant to Japanese culture i.e. videogame Soundtracks mostly which you all vehemently despise for absolutely zero reason.

>>127135614
The difference is just that the music is good versus isn't desu. Is all about pacing and presentation for me. Most of my epic autism moments and hot takes on here come back to that. Atmosphere etc. I'm not trying to seem sophisticated either. I just smoke too much weed so I like some unusual stuff in there.

I'm pretentious but not consciously or attentionslly haha.

>>127135793
Wait people hate Sun Ra? I thought he is beloved

The Anime Sounstracks I hate so much are the intros and songs that sound like they could be. The sort of super hyperactive j pop type garbage. When I say I like JRPG Soundtracks I mean the borderline neoclassical or ambient super needy fantasy/sci-fi stuff with lots of synth and atmospheric bits. This is also probably reflected in my opinions on the vu and Hollies and jimi hendrix being "better than" the Beatles.

>>127135922
He is. I remember listening to him in high-school actually and Chet Baker as a kid and Mingus because my parents liked those.

>>127135614
so has your spacing

Ik from new England and was not at all working claws growing up and I'm from like ye Olde time German family. I unironically view Nico and CAN and other like 70s Euro Psych as the pinicle of culture haha. My parents like jazz though. But personally feel more authentic playing more prog and psych and classical+eurofolk inspired stuff heckin problematic as it may be. Also what I like in black metal. Verymuch a continuation of the western singer songwriter tradition.

>>127136016
Nah I get what he's saying. But it comes down to pacing for me. In terms of like hearing shit blasted by drunk college kids or fucking coworker music or your high with friends and they try to put on some songs they like hearing it's from an anime is usually way worse than hearing it's from a videogame. Also in terms of my YouTube recommendations honestly. I've probably seen more anime tha I've played videogames in the last ten years even. Buy videogames lend themselves to better soundtrack work. I also like a lot of stuff from horror films desu like the old ones. Horror Synth. It's not a particular interest in gaming nor really my main issue with anime as a genre which it is.

The music used in videogames is like tends to be some mix of classical/eurofolk/electronically but by a Japanese guy. The music used in anime is J Pop which is realistically just the precursor to K Pop. Unironically vudeogame Soundtracks are comparable to shit I've already said I like and Anime Soundtracks to shit I already said that I hated. At least like you know the stuff I'm actually talking about. It you only get your musical opinions from playing vidya you're probably a retard but like resident e IL type music and shit. JRPG Soundtracks.

Very consistent autism haha. I like slow plodding ominous bullshit a little bit or at least Moody introspective probably.

>>127135922
I wasn't implying people hate him. In fact he's one of the few bigger names that both posers and fans agree is good.

all jazz sounds the same

this has to be the nico tranny, no one is this fucking obsessed or retarded

>>127136557
That's because you're a braindead retard

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>>127136682
As much as I keep hating on Jazz it definitely doesn't "all sound the same". Several very obvious distinct styles. I

>>127136629
Absolutely seething that I called out the most obvious shit imaginable. You do not listen to Jazz. You are a discord admin.

>>127136964
no one cares about you or your worthless opinions, faggot

>>127122330 (OP)
>Is Japanese (music genre) superior to American (music genre)?
Yes.

>>127137037
i pop in every couple hours. you have been here refreshing and responding to comments within minutes LMAO. obsessed faggot retard.

>ANCIRIENN ZSCHAPPANEEZ SHRAXSHAPHOEN PAWRISHED 10,000 TIME WID ANNEEMAY SAMOORIE COED UF HONAWR
no, fuck off weeb

>>127122330 (OP)
japanese “jazz” is soulless. just how city pop is watered down disco

>>127133859
can't even argue a single point kek

>>127122330 (OP)
Not really. Everything the japs did, the yanks did 30 years earlier.
Even all the wacky synthesizer shit that is attributed to the japs was done by herbie hancock long before.

Japan should stick to porn/hentai, its the only thing they're good at anymore

Outrun OST is jazz is japanese and it's fucking perfect.

Deal with it.

>Music
:I
>Music (Japanese)
:O

People just like cool jazz and the youtube algorithm blew this album up

>>127142029
True but keep in mind that the Japanese stuff is novel because it isn't corrupted by jews, so everything becomes innately precious.

I'm listening to Cassiopeia, and it's kind of funk. It's jazz, but it leans toward funk. Even much of Masayoshi Takanaka's work is rooted in funk. I personally like Jap jazz, but I understand why jazz fans don't like Japanese jazz. It's because these people don't like the genre. Their taste comes from the accessible funky sound, mainly because of anime and games, and also that thing about Japanese music “sounding different,” which really bothers me about the “different” statement because a lot of non-English music, including pop, sounds different. And these people are incapable of appreciating it; they're not much better than a normie who gobbles up anything that's popular to score points with other normies. That's my only pet peeve. The rest are just butthurt jazz fans grasping at straws.

>>127122330 (OP)
Japanese jazz isn't even jazz.

I wouldn't say so but I do like hideous date and soil and pimp

>>127142021
>OST
not music

Has Japan invented anything other than anime?

>>127142332
weebs will get autistic over every metal/rock subgenre but still dont have the brains to properly distinguish one black genre from another kek

>>127145258
they invented junior idols

>>127145258
vhs tapes, bullet trains, practically 80% of hardware gadgets you first encountered in the 70s and 80s

>>127145258
Idiot

>>127124955
It is far more technically advanced though, which is more important than "soul" which no one can even define regardless.

>>127149312
here's your (you)

>>127149312
>more technically advanced
japan gets mogged by poland, denmark and others when it comes to post-bop big band so no

It’s good these guys are just sour and never really bothered hearing it out.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zd65AZgT2lU

>>127145258
QR codes

>>127152541
ITS JAPANESE INJECT IT IN MY VIENS!!!

>>127137232

Literal meltdown btw. Super sophisticated stuff haha. Listening to traditional cambodian music right now btw but sure. Japanese Meme Jazz haha. Very pog....much fedora....much sophisticated computer render pepe with cigar.....
>>127137941
This. City Pop is more watered down soul music though of which JPop arguably is aswell.

But yeah it's because it's epic reddit pop culture music that any of you give so much of a shit that and being mentally fried. Jazz sucked. It was simply never that good. I'm listening to fucking ethnic cambodian music right now was listening to trini cult music earlier. It was impressive to boomers because they had more limited options.

>>127137895
Bro is desperate holy fuck haha. You know this won't get you laid and you're still for sure dying alone right? I fucking garuntee it. The waiting room muzak will not change that you're gonna be a male loneliness victim haha. Just something to think on. Nobody thinks you're actually sophisticated for liking that crap anymore.

>>127145433
Soul Music is way way way better. Jazz is shit they play in the dentists office. It's soulless haha.

>>127122330 (OP)
1. Nordic jazz
2. Japanese jazz/American jazz

>>127133859
Nobody in current year is walking around talking about jazz fusion though and most off that shit is just seen as psych rock or prog in retrospect. Jazz was interesting to people in the cringe and lame time before psychedelia happened mostly because there was nothing else prettymuch. You guys can't into Psychedelia so you got into something lamer and more safe. It's fine.

>>127153863
Nordic Trad Folk is better. I'm listening to fucking cambodian shit right now though. Worth checking out but I fear many of you could not follow it.

>>127126313
>poor people are just magically better cuz poor
what a very middle-class American kneeler take
i'm an artist and was (very) poor.
I can only say fuck you and your demeaning fucking attitude.

>>127153863
You got any funky ass Nordic fusion? I'll listen to any cool shit desu

>>127153882
Two of my favourites are Sinikka Langeland and Như Quỳnh.
Different sides of the Earth but both touch my brain and heart deeply.

not fusion, but great:

https://youtu.be/gQdYflQi7cQ?si=MRsc7M1F6iCTfa4J

>>127126922
holy based

love Mr. McCoy

excuse reddit spacing im drunk