Thread 127145014

I think the reason ITAOTS didn't cross over to the zoomer zeitgeist is because it's an extremely lore-heavy album. There's really not much to appreciate if you don't talk and read a lot about it and the context that goes into it. It's an album that can't really exist in a world of algorithms because as a set of songs isolated from context it's not that impressive or interesting. No one ever talks about the record without talking about Mangum's obsession with Anne Frank, nervous breakdown and subsequent withdrawal from society. People don't really talk about music much anymore outside of cursory memes. Blogs are irrelevant. Forums are dead. Spaces don't need to exist anymore. There's a digital conveyor belt that just kinda serves you endless content divorced from peripheral information and in a situation like that, the only records that flourish are the ones that stand out on the surface level and make an immediate and lasting impression. ITAOTS is not one such record.

>lore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVm35BlstjY&pp=ygUec3BvbmdlYm9iIGNyaW5nZSBjcmluZ2UgY3Jpbmdl
>cringe cringe cringe cringe based based based based cringe based based cringe based criiiiiinge baaaaaaaased

>>127145014 (OP)
>There's really not much to appreciate if you don't talk and read a lot about it and the context that goes into it.
i.e. it actually sucks

>>127145044
>take art
>remove context
>remove everything that makes it mean anything
>point at what remains
>see? it sucks lol

>>127145014 (OP)
why do people nowadays have to read into records so much? why can't we just take the music for what it is? everything doesn't have to have a meaning, and records like this that are kind of ambiguous should stay just that: ambiguous. Just appreciate the music for the fact that it sounds good and leave it at that, imo reading into stuff that doesn't need to be read into kind of ruins great records like this one.

>>127145056
you dont need context to enjoy good music.
the music should be good.
When you read the context, the music is still the same, it doesnt magically get better

>>127145044
I wonder if this is why people like AI art despite it being so vacant and devoid of meaning. People legit just don't give a shit about context. You can play them some suno.ai slop and it's indistinguishable from music written by people to them, because they don't really pay attention to anything beyond just how the music sounds. They don't think of music as artistic gesture, nothing really means anything to them, it literally just boils down to "huh. this sounds cool I guess. Onto the next thing."

>>127145091
>you dont need context to enjoy good music
THIS

>>127145091
you need context to enjoy good music.
the music should be multifaceted, that's what makes it good.
When you read the context, the music is transformed by the information that accompanies it, it magically gets better.

>>127145091
This kind of mindset is why people go to the museum, see the paintings without reading the accompanying placards, do not look into anything at all, take no interest whatsoever and leave uninterested. They're just looking at the pretty colors at that point.

>>127145117
>When you read the context, the music is transformed by the information that accompanies it
well, on your mind it is, but the sound is still the same

>>127145148
Yeah, dumbass, that's what art is.
>bro it's just a statue. it's a lump of clay arranged to look like an object that is not clay. the meaning is all just in your mind
Like... yeah. lol. Yeah that's kind of the point. You think I'm staring at the statue because I like the clay?

>I can enjoy music without having any context because all that matters is sonic quality
See, this is why discussing stuff on /mu/ is pointless. Imagine making a declaration like this and then listening to two separate jazz songs from the same artist. You don't have a name, a time period, you aren't even aware if they're on the same album, all you know is they're both by Miles Davis or whoever. Could you honestly even make a rational judgment? What if you weren't even aware of who recorded it? How about I just shove a bunch of random instrumentals onto your device and strip the metadata out so you're left in the dark? No one is telling you to read all the reviews and articles about music before you dive into it (in fact you should really only do this after so your opinion isn't influenced) but you still need SOMETHING to work with, anons. Every album has a bit of lore, a reason to exist, even if it's as simple as a label contract or collecting old demos.

>>127145260
>words words words
I like it when music sounds good to me and when it sounds good I listen to it more and again
I don't know shit about jeffery mangun or whoever and his apparent nervous breakdown but I like the potato head boat girl album in op's post. it's fun to sing that song that I think is about anne frank and that other one about jesus christ (who I also love)

>>127145367
Describe any of the instrumentation on any of the album's tracks since you clearly love it so much. You should be able to do that, surely? Go ahead, I'll wait. Say what SONICALLY makes the album good in your opinion, since you're insistent that the backstory behind it doesn't matter.

>>127145367
anti-intellectualism is going to be the death of art

>>127145260
Yeah I guess you'd need a ton of context to enjoy sonic earpiss like jazz

Zoomers unironically only listen to music in the same way trained mice press buttons to collect sugar water. They never connect to anything on a level deeper than that. This applies to almost everything they consoom, too. Movies, video games, you name it. If it doesn't scratch the itch, it gets discarded.

>>127145396
there are guitars and horns and drums. sometimes the drums are fast. a guy sings in a voice which is not conventional but very passionate.
>>127145419
you're right I don't understand the music at all if I haven't memorized the names of every band member, studio producer, the artist of the album art, and determined if the album is objectivley at least ranked 8.5 out of 10 in objective quality otherwise it wouldn't be worth listening to

>>127145396
also I like the lyrics
I like the part where he says it's strange to be anything at all. I like the part where he's like it's so sad to see the world agree that they'd rather see their faces filled with flies. I am aware of the semen stains the mountaintops line but don't go tee-hee semen when I hear it like a child

>>127145523
>you're right I don't understand the music at all if I haven't memorized the names of every band member, studio producer, the artist of the album art, and determined if the album is objectivley at least ranked 8.5 out of 10 in objective quality otherwise it wouldn't be worth listening to
notice how literally none of that shit resembles anything I actually said

>>127145523
Got it, so you like the album because it has guitars, horns, fast drums and unconventional vocals. Big fan of ska, huh?

>>127145546
okay fine you're right I don't know what parts of it are in 7/4 phyrgian scales or whatever
what am I supposed to pay attention to, oh enlightened one?

>>127145556
I like no doubt and streetlight manifesto if those count

>>127145558
I didn't say any of that shit either. goddamn you are literally just making shit up to get mad at.

>>127145575
>anti-intellectualism is going to be the death of art
is what you said
so again, what am I supposed to pay attention to beyond using my ears to listen to the sounds for enjoyment?

I didn't know who this was until /mu/ became obsessed with them. There are two great cuts on this record and everyone knows which ones they are.

>>127145091
trvth nvke
critic-core fellating pseuds seething

>>127145421
you dont like music, you just want fashion wear

>>127145608
I said that because your response of "words words words" was dismissive and indicative of the kind of anti-intellectual predisposition that coincidentally highlights why you consume music the way you do. you aren't open to ideas. you don't pay attention. you need to be spoonfed everything. it's depressing and that kind of attitude will destroy the relationship that people have with art as a whole if it spreads far enough.

>>127145657
yes my sarcastic 4chan response is definitely indicative of who I am. you're reading a whole lot into this. there's plenty of music and art that I enjoy on plenty of levels. There's also a lot of music that I just like the sound of and haven't read into. I'm not even denying that there isn't some bigger story behind the lyrics or making of the album which might make some of the strange parts of it make more sense. totally cool! just trying to say that I can also find plenty of enjoyment in the music without engaging it beyond a collection of songs I occasionally put on.

>>127145653
You don't like music, you like the mythomania surrounding it

>>127145014 (OP)
Streaming apps were a mistake in hindsight. They have encouraged a mode of operation that is a lot less intentional and committed than previous formats of music distribution.
The thing that physical albums and local digital files had in common was that you had to actively foster a relationship with your music instead of having it brought to you and discarding it. You had to venture.
With CDs, vinyl records and cassettes, you had to buy each record individually, so you had to KNOW for sure whether or not it'd be worth the purchase. You had to pay attention to the artist at a close level and talk about them with others to get a feel for what they're all about. Maybe the record store would let you take a listen before buying sometimes. Then, after the purchase, you had to continue listening to that same record repeatedly, otherwise it was a waste of money. So you had to familiarize yourself with it, notice new things about it, really appreciate it.
Same thing with the iPod to a lesser extent. Now you didn't really have to pay for the music because piracy was so much easier but you still couldn't just burn through music while paying so little attention to it. You had to manually build your own library and listen to what you had in store.
With Spotify and Apple Music, you can pay $10/mo and just kinda treat music like junk. You have it bring you random crap and you listen to it once and move on. You consume but do not savor. You don't analyze or think about or even remember most of it. The whole thing is a giant shuffle button for everything ever recorded. It conditions you to play music just to fill the silence, not to actually pay attention to it. It's sad.

>>127145695
>yes my sarcastic 4chan response is definitely indicative of who I am.
yeah. the way you behave, especially when you do not have a reputation to uphold, is indicative of how you think and ostensibly who you are.

i'm not reading the rest of your post.
>words words words blah blah blah

>>127145698
back when I had to buy all my music I was a dweeb who only listened to like 3 specific subgenres of metal because I didn't want to waste money on a fucking jazz album that I might not even like at all. Now that it's all at my fingertips I can check out random deep house tracks, dive into discographies of weird old euro prog groups, pull up a playlist of contemporary pop when I've got friends in the car, and more. Sure plenty of people might rely too much on the algorithm, but I personally enjoy a much broader spectrum of music thanks to the internet. (still prefer soulseek to spotify but sometimes it's not as practical to play my downloaded files)

>>127145706
man you really are mad about a post you didn't understand to begin with
sorry I wasn't nicer to you on the internet
hope your day only gets better from here

>>127145726
Tbh that sounds like a (You) problem. It was not difficult to be a music nerd before Spotify. It was not difficult to grow wide and varied tastes back then.

>>127145091
>you dont need context to enjoy good music.

>>127145748
no one's mad, i'm literally just mimicking your behavior lol

the history of punk which is dead is important here

>>127145091
>6,000 "based" + pepe.jpg responses incoming

>>127145752
If I had been a bit older it may have been different. I got real big into Children of Bodom-adjacent power metal when I was about 12 in 2002 after my main exposure to music was tepid contemporary rock stuff that my parents liked. It wasn't until I was able to drive a few years later that I could actually go to a store that sold CDs that wasn't fucking Wal-Mart, and even there I had to go to the counter and special order all my Stratovarius and Kreator albums

>>127145794
I mean idk, I was 14 in 2002 and I was already trading rare demos n shit with my friends by then. I used to make fucked up shitty IDM on the family computer and burn it to CDs and sell them for cheap. It felt effortless. Maybe it's a matter of how social you are, or where you grew up.

>>127145014 (OP)
you don't need "lore" to get this album, retard. your entire thread has a false premise as a foundation.

>>127145844
I have literally never seen anyone talk about the record without talking about all the stuff surrounding it.

>>127145833
Didn't really have any friends that were deep into music. One other guy kinda got into bands I would show him. Another friend would only listen to the first Jet album on repeat because he thought it was super badass that one of the songs said "bitch." Everyone else listened to (if anything) OCRemix VG tracks.
We had a family computer in the 90's with a midi tracker which I found fascinating. Loved watching the piano roll while it played canyon.mid and the other stock songs. Fucked around with something similar in the myspace days and had an awful midigrind project best forgotten and did more punk-adjacent synth stuff in my 20's before burning out on making music. So it all happened eventually, but only once I had free reign of the internet to check out whatever, whenever.

>>127145833
Music nerd in 2002:
>Knows the specific gear used by all his favorite artists
>Has made a few songs and shared them on niche forums
>Probably keeps tabs on a bunch of different labels
>Loads of physical media in collection, still pirates lots of music

Music nerd in 2025:
>Watches an Anthony Fantano review
>Watches a Benn Jordan video essay
>Watches some random fag deconstruct an Aphex Twin track
>Tries to listen to an album for five minutes before getting an anxiety attack and opening up three tabs of Twitch streams

>>127145861
>I
good thing you're not the entire universe, dumbass. the title track is a nice song about the fleeting nature of life. the anne frank shit is interesting but way too overstated by people. maybe because they're too retarded to appreciate the album's music.

Listened to this album a couple of times. It's overhyped.
If it relies on lore or some external context to be good then it's fundamentally not a good album.

>>127145014 (OP)
>immediate and lasting impression. ITAOTS is not one such record.
In other words, it's not good, and the only reason anyone ever cared about it was the hero worship of the amerimutt version of syd barrett (another overrated le tragic figurino) by tryhards who were too "smart" to worship someone like kurt cobain (who actually did make something that made an immediate and lasting impression besides his shotgun mouthwash)

>>127145965
The record is fantastic but, like all records, demands to be experienced under a specific set of circumstances. Also, you are an asshat.

>>127145896
>good thing you're not the entire universe, dumbass
You literally can't prove that you faggot. My perception is reality.

>>127145965
>amerimutt version of syd barrett
Syd Barrett is actually good
you have no taste

>>127145896
anon don't be so disingenuous, you know damn well that 80% of the albums appeal is its narrative and mystique. the music is good but the music is definitely not what people actually talk about most of the time.

>>127146027
He's okay but no one besides a couple of cambridge boomers would even care had it not been for wywh, a record that can easily be enjoyed without even knowing who syd was (and I suspect most listeners at the time had no idea who he was, heck most people didn't even know who the band members were or how they looked like, even after dsotm), so much for context

>>127146234
you dont like piper?

>>127146297
I like his solo stuff better, reminds me of donovan

>>127145627
...In the aeroplane over the sea and two headed boy part 2?

>>127146372
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(Spade gang)

blah blah blah another retarded thread by milennialcucks seething at us zoom zoom gods
go back to the retirement home unc

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Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


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Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

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Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

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(Spade gang!

india was aryan first if that matters

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


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(S

he came from a rare n64 game

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S....

im a slf

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(Spade gang!!!

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S.......

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S

>assmad zoomer spazzing out
lmao

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S.1

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(Spaaaaaaaaa

'emmy

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit

Shartyfags are a poor imitation of what we used to be, when we raided, we didn't do it to make fun of marginalized groups and be dicks to people, we made our posts to take out hateful bigotry like right wing podcast hosts and sites where christian women fought abortion, we were fighting against the establishment and not for it,. Of fucking course zoomers just use our old raiding tactics to be racist pieces of fucking shit now, kill yourselves NOW. Seriously fuck you

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(Spaaaaa

>>127146845
>when we raided, we didn't do it to make fun of marginalized groups and be dicks to people
...anon.

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(Sbbyv8vt8v8yc7t7vt

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S.........

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S...............

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S.....

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>average shartyfag intelligence
Rofl

is...is that it? is he done?

Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

(SPADE GANG!)

Suck these black cocks like a vacuum nigga you tiny white pecker

Cob the party with them spadey niggas and them gangnam niggas

Bump the thread and they saging niggas we negating nigga

No chud, you a loser nigga, goon that pecker nigga


On the log, feral posting coal I'm saging them some more

He wanna fuck a woman -ACK! no white babies anymore

Man it's sad I sucked the sperm up, but negative once more

I be suckin 15 inches every night I'm a whore


On the onions my cord be posting gems, QAfe bumpin cobs

Catch a ban postin mori, janny hates his shota cock

Put more cobbies on the booru, climb up another spot

Oldfags seething bout the spam but my cobbies to the top


I'm not fuckin no white boys, only kangs tho

Floodin spadeson in the catalog, another seething chud

Only save it if it's cob jak, not a dust jak

I'ma post it then ratio, bump the thread back


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


Crackers sissy though, gemson got the spadey tho

Got the spadey, tho takin up a pozzy load

All my cords, posters top 50 though

Nigger coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho


Post a thread, chuds mad, replies a hunnid

Page 40, grab a Cob and then I bump it

Sage me, I ratio, my script toggle it

I aint wanna flood the log, but nigga fuck it


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


I'm on some sage a ferals shit, make a /q/fag bitch

In detroit suckin nigs posting cobs takin dick

I flood another page, every thread a hit

Go up, all of kuzzies jannies quit


(S......

>>127145014 (OP)
My two cents are that music on that album is still pretty good, its obvious to me that Jeff was heavily inspired while making this, theres no other possibility from which such good music would come out off. Melodies are original and really catchy

>>127145014 (OP)
People on TikTok love this album

>>127145367
>>127145523
>>127145537
>>127145558
>>127145575
>>127145695
>>127145748
Not even in the argument but Christ you're such a tedious fake-cool faggot. This whole
>bro it's just like... sounds, bro
>I just like how it sounds bro... it's not that deep bro... it's like, totally chill and shit
routine is the mark of someone who never matured past 16

>>127147381
He might unironically be 16 actually.

>>127145014 (OP)
>lore

>>127147453
LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE

>>127147381
literally all I'm saying is I've listened to aeroplane over the sea and enjoyed it and have no idea what the backstory is beyond "hipsters and 4chan like it." No one's given me a compelling reason to care about it's context any more than I would any other piece of music I enjoy. Not even denying that there isn't probably some interesting shit that went into the making of the album, I just think the music already speaks for itself.
>>127147407
i'm "unironically" 36

>>127147583
>i'm "unironically" 36

>>127145014 (OP)
>There's really not much to appreciate if you don't talk and read a lot about it and the context that goes into it.
So pretentious basedboy hipster trash like most of /mu/ has been for the last 15 years

I guess "Death of the Author" isn't a thing anymore?
Personally I think good art should stand on it's own

>>127147955
that's not really relevant in the way that you think it is.

>>127147955
>good art should stand on it's own
That is literally impossible. Art is all about semiotics. Nothing can exist in a contextual vacuum.

>>127148034
why not though?
Can no one in this thread give a straight answer?

>>127148048
Death of the Author not Death of the Entirety of the Rest of the Universe.
I know enough about Anne Frank and Jesus Christ and how many heads boys are supposed to have to draw my own conclusions about the art. Whether my conclusions are the ones the artist wanted me to draw is irrelevant to me enjoying the piece of art for what it is.

>>127147955
Death of the author refers more to the subjectivity of the interpretation of artistic intention by the art's creator, not the ornamental influences that inform one's interpretation of the art.

I really think that for a lot of us, our love for and the significance of an album is very much tied to our own personal lore that surrounds it. I have so many memories of me and my friends around the fire at various stages of fucked up sining and playing these songs. I was a fan of the album before this, but it holds an even more special place for me because of it.

>>127147955
>>127148109
why do you speak of Death of the Author as if it's a law

>>127148109
>Whether my conclusions are the ones the artist wanted me to draw is irrelevant to me enjoying the piece of art for what it is.
No one refuted that. I think you're fighting a claim that was never made.

>>127148135
I find it a practical way to approach art. The art is the statement. If the artist has to explain it beyond the art itself, then the art did a poor job of conveying their intended message.
OP says that this album is "not much to appreciate" if you don't know all the lore. I contest this as I have always generally enjoyed the album without knowing about whatever schizo shit the band did during/after release. According to everyone else in the thread I'm doing it wrong for unspecified reasons.

>>127148194
I agree. Art has to be able to stand on its own, and shouldn't have to be contextuslized in order for it to be enjoyed.

>>127148240
contextualized*

>>127147955
>I guess "Death of the Author" isn't a thing anymore?
...?
the stuff surrounding the record wasn't deliberately implemented to be a part of it by the artist. it just happens to be a huge, integral part of the reason the album is so celebrated. death of the author is irrelevant here.

>>127145117
>>127145194
So you don't actually get anything out of art-you need someone else to come and tell you why you should appreciate it?

>>127148240
>and shouldn't have to be contextuslized in order for it to be enjoyed.
This is nonsense. This is a nonsense statement. All art is inherently contextual whether you choose to acknowledge that or not. When you enjoy it you're merely choosing which contextual perspectives to enjoy it from. All art is literally just material + context. It is impossible for a work of art to exist without conveying at least some information, no matter how closely integrated to its concept that information may be.

>>127148327
Do you enjoy the painting for the paint, or for what's been painted?

>>127148194
>The art is the statement.
The statement can be an incomplete part of a larger conceptual whole. This is why we bother to do stylized press material, album covers, music videos, etc. Things that are all not particularly "on" the album itself but to inform how the album's material is perceived and digested. Of course you can ignore all that stuff if you want to, the same way you could listen to only the first three songs on the record and judge the record as a whole based on just that, but why should you? Why not engage with every aspect of it?

>>127148327
Context is more than just what other people say about the work. It's an amalgamation of a great many separate compounding details.

>>127148327
why can't the information conveyed by the art count as something you get out of it? when you hear a song do you literally just go "hm yes i like this particular sequence of notes" and that's it? there's only 12 notes in an octave and only so many ways to arrange them, don't you get bored?

>>127148476
>there's only 12 notes in an octave and only so many ways to arrange them, don't you get bored?
some posts on this board make me convinced that none of you even like music to begin with.

>>127148578
>coming from the guy who literally only appreciates the notes and nothing else about the music

>>127148334
What I mean is that you shouldn't and don't need to read Beethovens biography in order to enjoy his work. I guess I'm using context in the way that OP implied. In a broader sense, you can't escape it, of course. But to say that Aeroplane doesn't hold up as work of art without the context of all of the Jeff Mangum lore is false. I fell in love with NMH on first listen, without any knowledge of the making of that album.

>>127148632
>you shouldn't and don't need to read Beethovens biography in order to enjoy his work
You absolutely should, actually. You should understand the contexts under which his compositions were devised, and what purpose they served. You should understand what the standard of the time was so that you can truly know why Beethoven's works were exceptional. You should listen beyond just the music. You should absorb everything you can. You should be curious and hungry. I don't understand why you'd want to be so clueless about the art you engage with.

>>127148476
No I need to know it was recorded in Amsterdam during a difficult period of the artists life before I can enjoy a song

>>127145014 (OP)
>There's really not much to appreciate if you don't talk and read a lot about it and the context
stopped reading there, kill yourself. it's a great album just musically without any background knowledge whatsoever.

no one ever gave a fuck about this record then or now
the singer just keeps shilling it here

>>127148716
Thats a schizo take. You think that Jeff Mangum over the years has actively been shilling Aeroplane on 4chan? You find that ti me a more like scenario as opposed to people just really loving the album?

>>127148681
why do you keep getting hung up on the biography of the artist? why are you so afraid of knowing more? why is it so hard to believe that the more you come to fully know a work, they more you can fully enjoy it?

>>127148779
Theres a different between context enhancing enjoyment and co text being a prerequisite for enjoyment of a work. Whats being argued here is the latter, I don't really disagree with the former

>>127148681
What do you even like about ITAOTS? The guitars? There's guitars everywhere? Or is it the horns?

>>127148806
the latter is just straight-up factually true though. without the learned context of musical structure, music is just noise. without the context of language, speech is just vocalization signifying nothing.

art IS information. it IS context.

>>127148673
>I don't understand why you'd want to be so clueless about the art you engage with.
I've enjoyed Aeroplane Over the Sea on the occasions I've listened to it, always because I saw the image online somewhere and put it on at a whim. I listen to a lot of music because I am generally curious and hungry for art. I like the album, I'm not obsessed with it. There's a bunch of music that I like without really knowing everything about the artist. Some artists aren't that public. Some I wish I knew less about, frankly.

>>127148828
oh my god you are such a tryhard.
he's not saying "context" as in music theory, he means "context" as in "surrounding information about the artist which is not conveyed on the album itself"

>>127148860
and why should that information be excluded? how does anything mean anything in a total informational vacuum?

>>127148769
https://archive.is/iD4ei
>And sales accordingly skyrocketed in the years following Aeroplane’s 1998 release. A hilariously timid Merge Records master release estimated the record might sell around 8,000 copies, but today it’s one of the most consistently profitable albums on vinyl, an essential part of the starter set for any kid digging into underground music. It’s one of the weirdest success stories in the history of the record industry
it flopped because it's shit and sounds like shit, i know because i'm old enough to remember getting a demo in a playstation magazine
capitol did the same shilling the beach boys 24/7 when they rereleased that smile boxset

>>127148828
Thats true but we're arguing 2 different things. I'm arguing OP's initial statement. He was arguing that biographical context is a prerequisite to enjoying Aeroplane. I don't agree with that statement. Of course context, in a broader sense, is inescapable and will always influence our appreciation of art. I'm not arguing that, though. I'm arguing OP's initial point.

>>127148843
>I listen to a lot of music because I am generally curious and hungry for art.
But not really. You want to eat a little bit of everything without really knowing what you're eating. You don't really engage with any of it on a level deeper than the most superficial. If you're not really thinking much about what you're listening to and it's not really affecting you on any particular level because you don't care to look into any of it any further, that's the opposite of curiosity. What's the point?

>>127148889
And you think they achieved that by shilling the album on an anime imageboard that is far past its prime and clearly on its deathbed?

>>127148893
it kind of is though? itaots is only a mildly impressive musical work on its own, in a vacuum. if anything it's just kinda good. kinda off kilter.

>>127148632
anon, have you ever wondered why baroque compositions are so dense and complex in comparison to a lot of the music that gets the most attention upon release today?
hint: it has to do with contextual information.

>>127148879
is the "total informational vacuum" in the room with us right now?
OP says "There's really not much to appreciate if you don't talk and read a lot about it and the CONTEXT that goes into it."
Everyone's got some amount of context from existing in reality. The context we're talking about is "Mangum's obsession with Anne Frank, nervous breakdown and subsequent withdrawal from society," which I would argue is not required knowledge for enjoying the album, no matter how interesting it may be or how it changes how you view it.

>>127149000
>which I would argue is not required knowledge for enjoying the album
i think you're wrong. if you play the album for most people with zero context regarding its creation or anything like that, they likely wouldn't hear anything special about it. if they would then the narrative surrounding the record wouldn't have overshadowed the record the way it did.
you are an anomaly.

>>127149053
Not just not hear anything, it sounds like absolute ass.

I'd love to reply to this thread but I would need to know more about the people making the posts first like their age, sex, musical taste, when they first started listening to music, nationality, history, education etc. in order to appreciate them fully and give an appropriate reply
As they are they are just worthless words on a screen, sorry

>>127149062
>Not just not hear anything,
nigger what the fuck are you saying?

>>127149072
wait...

>>127149072
false equivalence. this thread isn't art.
still, you do have all the context you need to fully understand and engage with it intellectually. everything is supplied.
the same can't really be said for itaots.

>>127149082
>they likely wouldn't hear anything special about it
I was referencing this my illiterate friend

>>127149000
Fucking THANK YOU

>>127149053
I don't give a fuck what most people think. Most people think (whatever bullshit music is popular right now take your pick) is good.

>>127149124
then why did you bother responding to this thread and defending your statements so feverishly?

>>127148930
mangum has been shilling it here for almost two decades

>>127149000
>"Mangum's obsession with Anne Frank, nervous breakdown and subsequent withdrawal from society,"
I think those were just off-hand examples anon, the overarching point is that the appeal and merit of ITAOTS is a little too wrapped up in its ethos to translate well to a largely algorithm-centered listener base. The record doesn't introduce well. Good album, but it doesn't play well out of context.

>>127149171
>ethos
Mythos*

Well, I guess either could apply.

>>127149093
>you do have all the context
Yeah no sorry, I get to decide that, and so far I don't have enough context
For all I know I could be talking to someone with zero musical education who started listening to music this year and as such any argument would be a waste of time

>>127149171
The sticky thread on this board is a meme reference to the album. There have been threads on here forever dedicated to memeing lyrics from the album. I'm no tiktoker but I'm pretty convinced it's only a matter of time before one of the songs goes viral because it's EXACTLY the kind of retro-quirky those types seem to latch onto, context be damned.

>>127145091
TRVKE

>>127149196
>goes viral
Lmao maybe in mutard copes. The album is mediocre slop and there's literally zero catchy moments. Something actually needs to sound catchy to go viral

>>127149181
even worse false equivalence lmao. this thread doesn't exist to be enjoyed as art in the same way that an album of music does. this feels...desperate.

>>127149196
...anon you're just listing examples of the effects of the album's mythos. you're arguing against your own point.

>this album is unique in that a large part of what makes it so special is the story of its creati—
>OH MY GOD WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERY MUSICIAN EVER JUST TO LISTEN TO THEIR MUSIC????
This board has the reading comprehension of a lamppost.

>>127149215
I'm not denying that the album has lore
I think that the mythos on this board is proof that the album could translate well to the algorithm crowd, even if in their own shallow way.
I do not think that said mythos is required to enjoy the album itself.

>>127149206
>this thread doesn't exist to be enjoyed as art
never said it did, just explaining why any argument to be had is pointless, perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension :^)

>>127149261
i never said you said it did, i'm just explaining to you why your equivalence doesn't work and is put forth in very poor faith.

>>127149257
the fact that the communication of that mythos is so necessary for the album to thrive is exactly why it CAN'T and HASN'T translated well to the algorithm crowd.
no one is saying it is physically impossible to enjoy the record without the knowledge of its surrounding mythos. it's just that the records reputation is largely shaped by that.

>>127149232
If a large part of what makes an album special is its creation story, it's a shit album.

>>127149309
no, the music is quite good, but there are many other things about the music to appreciate alongside just that, and those things are easy to lose.

>>127149309
>if the creation of the album is impressive, that means the music itself has to be shit. can't be both.

>>127149324
>as a set of songs isolated from context it's not that impressive or interesting.
OP's words

This thread is full of the same types who thought Death Grips was dangerous and scary and mysterious and then got mad when it turned out it was just a couple of dorky art dweebs

>>127149357
yes. what about them?

>>127149357
And they're accurate. Separated from their larger context, the songs themselves are not THAT impressive or interesting. They're just good. As an artistic gesture, though, the record can be quite impactful. It carries weight. Both of these things can be true simultaneously. The meaning is what makes the album so good, not necessarily the composition of the music. Although the composition is good too.

>>127149317
>the music is quite good
Proofs?

>>127149410
me

>>127149410
- I say the music is good
- my opinion is more important than yours
- therefore, the music is factually good