Thread 127348643

Live jazz is best jazz edition

Previous: >>127251514

How about it's ASS projection instead haha.

>>127348643 (OP)
when I look at a guitar fretboard in the context of jazz and the theory that comes with jazz, I get very scared and intimidated

i dont even know who that is

it's this guy in disguise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLGFMGsTbw

>>127349605
>jazz theory
Not a thing.

where sticky

>>127350579
keep coping retard

>>127351356
None of this is specific to jazz and originated well before jazz ever existed. The only theoretical concept that originated in jazz is swing, which is notoriously difficult to quantify and model.

>>127351501
keep coping retard

Who is y'all's favorite jazzer making music today?

>>127348643 (OP)
>DUDE THING JAPAN LMAO

>>127350527
Masayuki Takayanagi.

>>127351524
He's right though, there's no such thing as "jazz theory", it's just music theory.

>>127351561
keep coping retard

>>127350579
He didn't say "jazz theory" strawmanning retard, he's talking about specific habits that have been measured and formulated that are characteristic of jazz, like old standards using very specific circle of fifths progressions over and over. There's certain theoretical stuff that comes with jazz often, just like classical or blues or whatever.

>>127351528
There's a ton of excellent players. But in terms of people actually doing innovative and interesting things, I like the Pi recordings guys like Steve Lehman, Vijay Iyer, Tyshawn Sorey, as well as M-Base guys like Steve Coleman, Miles Okazaki, Jonathan Finlayson etc.

>>127349605
Why? Jazz guitar theory is easy and formulaic because it all forces you into the same tonalities and hand positionings. Jazz piano theory is the big boy stuff because 10 fingers = way more complex harmonies and shit to explore, not to mention learning how to improvise differently with left hand vs right hand, which guitarists can't do.

>>127351614
Oh, and Henry Threadgill, Braxton and their acolytes, of course.

>>127349605
Don't think, just play.

>>127351631
Don't listen to this asshole, this is how you end up with fusion and free-slop. Think AND feel at the same time if you want to be one of the greats.

>>127351640
Eh, the real key is to internalize in a way that makes you truly conversant.

>>127348643 (OP)
>Live jazz is best jazz edition
>OP just shows some random guy and isn't a live jazz album
I don't think you get how this works.

You now remember Chris Potter

>>127351724
literally who

>>127351640
Fusion is all thought.

I'm leaving, jazz is not even that great anyway, stuff like Trout Mask Replica mogs.

ATTENTION!!!

Things that are jazz:
>Guitar
>Banjo
>Soprano saxophone
>Clarinet
>Flute
>Vibraphone
>Tuba
>Trumpet mutes
>Vibrato
>Singing
>Violin
>Mandolin

Things that are not jazz:
>Any electric/electronic keyboard/piano
>Electric bass guitar
>Guitar pedals
>Distortion
>Electric violin
>Fusion in general
>Drum kits any bigger than pic related
>Oboe
>Cello
>British "people"

Thank you.

>>127352003
The listenable stuff is, most of it has little to no thought at all

>>127352027
You were never welcome here

>>127352421
Good luck keeping the threads alive without me.

>>127352534
Don't worry, I'll keep them alive

>prog/fusionshit tourist admits he never even liked jazz to begin with
LOOOOL

>>127352027
>Trout Mask Replica
watered down blues and free jazz for mogs who lack the soul for proper blues and free jazz. decent album, though.

Why is /jazz/ suddenly a successful general again

>>127353432
It happens, props to that guy for lasting longer than most others kek

>>127353703
>succesful

>>127354014
Anything over 30 posts is pretty successful desu

Who tf is krush and why did I get accused of being him for posting this the other day?
https://youtu.be/8_bTHeNIJhQ?si=Gg5G1Yn9zB29RhCO

>>127354283
No idea.

Awful, pointless music though.

>>127353432
they just want saxophones and double basses playing riffs, they have no idea what jazz is even supposed to be or feel like

>>127354462
They unironically need to listen to Wynton more, both his talks and his music.

>>127354487
That would be a start

>>127354300
You know nothing about music if you think this is pointless

>>127352027
You will never be important and you will never be missed. Enjoy listening to power chords for the rest of your life.

>>127351528
Marshall Allen, Joe Lovano, Charles Lloyd.

>>127354533
It's a very boring throwback piece that's not even executed particularly well. I suspect you only like it because it's by a Japanese guy and you also think the concept of using a feedback loop is somehow novel.

>>127354573
Nah I like it because I like atmospheric weird jazz not executed particularly well

>>127354655
So in reality, it turns out that you're the one that knows nothing about music?

>>127354694
There's charm in that sloppy execution fren. Sorry if it's not for you

>>127348643 (OP)
fuck yeah and all that jazz bitches have a brew

>>127354979
Kill yourself.
>>127354747
Develop taste and learn more about music.

>>127354655
>I like atmospheric weird jazz not executed particularly well
You must love a lot of Japanese music

>>127355076
I do!
https://youtu.be/ZhzH8VlUGlc?si=jiKp7KDR73gLPdQm

I've been awake for 48 hours straight and I just saw TRIAD live.. The vibes were immaculate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q11IZHm7sjI

the weebs are asleep, post actual good japanese jazz
https://youtu.be/_4EmjvtUMFc?si=vEeHMh44D39le0mh

>>127353703
its just the same 4 people bumping it and the rest of the board is on life support

Late night jazz for sextet havers

Can anyone recommend a jazz vocalist with a similar vocal timbre to Chet Baker? I’ve been really enjoying Chet Baker Sings.

>>127359814
10/10

>>127359814
No one sounds exactly like Chet, sorry.

>>127348643 (OP)
Just listened to >>>127319252 Not seeing how this isnt jazz

>>127353703
It doesn't actually take much to keep a general alive you just need one or two people consciously bumping or covert bumping and discussion keeps going as long as its bumped. I admit to being a bumper

>>127362121
I too enjoy a proper bumping

Hello sars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrUm4CsKW8c

Soooo, I don't really care too much about jazz, I only like My Favorite Things (couldn't tune into literally no other Coltrane piece), but I fucking love mammal hands and gogo penguin. Without telling me how shit my taste is and how this crap has nothing to do with jazz, what else should I listen to? BBNG are OK, but nowhere near as good as those two for me. Some Yussef Dayes stuff is OK, Yesterday Princess is kino.

oh also $.99 Dreams and Low Kick Collective are cool, but a bit too schizo for what I'm after.

>>127364137
>I only like My Favorite Things
listen to more McCoy Tyner then, he's the pianist making that song so special

>>127364137
ryo fukui scenery

bumping before bed
https://youtu.be/rbUsJu8ZcAg?si=I4OCrC6c1x_FiJua
for fans of bill evans/jim hall duos if you couldn't tell from the intermodulations cover art

A couple songs by a Finnish guy named Jere Laukkanen were played over the loudspeakers before the start of a Chicago concert a few days ago, I'm not sure if he even has any other albums with his ensemble, the rest was poppier jazz and R&B like Quincy Jones, Prince, Dave Weckl, Marcus Miller, this was by far the most obscure act they played during the pre-show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_873JlQtww
https://musicbrainz.org/release/1565ece3-e6bc-4d5a-88a4-6d7d928899ee

>>127364137
A lot of that kind of extra-soied fusion draw heavily on 70s ECM shit.

>>127367973
nice

>>127368234
>Chicago concert a few days ago
What artist/group?

>>127370969
Chicago

bump

>>127358942
Love that album

What is the shittiest band formation in jazz and why is it the septet?

this sounds like big band but its also very not like big band

>>127375733
>conducted by oliver nelson
thats why, he had the touch

>>127362101
The retards who said it wasn't jazz didn't even listen to it.

>>127372118
right, you were in Chicago, the city, you said that, but what artist were seeing??

gnight /jazz/

wow terry gibbs is still alive

such a cute and interesting tune
https://youtu.be/BLJmwxJPkLs

https://youtu.be/KzZ1CGpdHEk
love me some blues

>>127383512
I'm seeing a blues concert in Sept.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CiTfbWcMTj8&t=14s&pp=2AEOkAIB

>>127384387
they could use herbie hancock comping their cheesy ass blues licks imho

>>127378032
These guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA59MVXP-Og

>>127384432
oh he jelly

>>127348643 (OP)
I regret sleeping on Kenny Dorham. This is something else.

>>127387552
I prefer when he isn't quiet

Goodnight jazzers.

i prefer the large ensemble tracks on delightfulee
i wish he recorded more large ensemble work in his later life (does his final album count?)

zajj

>>127387623
sounds much better now than the first time i heard it

I'm new to the genre and I'm going by one of the /mu/ jazz charts. I'm a bit confused now because Giant Steps by Coltrane is included in "beginning of modal jazz" but when I search it up it is labeled as hard bop everywhere. How should I understand it? Is it hard bop with some elements of modal jazz?

>>127394060
you dont seem so confused

>>127394060
It's both, the 1960s is when people started combining subgenres together and I don't just mean jazz fusion. Trane learned modal jazz from being in Miles' band, so he continued that when he left after Kind of Blue. The true confusing thing is trying to figure out what "post-bop" means, which I guess Giant Steps counts as, too?

>>127394210
george russell wrote a book called "Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization", bill evans and coltrane both played with russell before they joined miles band

>>127394310
i know

>>127397075
Ah yes, the actually good soprano sax (Bb clarinet)

Any ideas for an easy way to play Coltrane Changes?

>>127401036
Augmented hexachords, movable patterns, guide tone lines, the list goes on...

its funny how some instruments that were so prevalent in earlier eras are suddenly dropped in later ones

why did he do it?

https://youtu.be/lz3d8C6xnmU?si=-yCPwUmEcxgw-584

>>127403786
He loved to count

>>127403786
Nice of Johhny Griffin to share
https://youtu.be/mthiJTVNBTM?si=tdKktSyt3fWKqGCs

>>127404240
cool. it's a nice tune. i had only really listened to monk's tunes on his jazz messengers date so far.

this one kinda suprised me with how good it is, this doesnt even sound like its from the 60s https://youtu.be/NlVPDaYu5EQ

what 1960s bass even sounds like this? is remastering a form of wizardry?

Who is your favorite Indian (or Indian-American) jazz artist, saars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLNOPcdmsgY

>>127349605
251, spam that tritone sub, second dom, dim passing chords, shell chords+add and inversions. pretty much all you need to sound jazzy.

>>127407862
if he plays all that shit with pop/rock harmonic rhythms then it's not going to sound jazzy at all

>>127405778
they all sound like this if they were recorded by a semi decent engineer
i think sometimes people mistake rudys prevalence for mastery

>>127407919
Really symmetrical face

>>127375733
cool. listening to Bayou now.
reminds me of The Individualism of Gil Evans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDOIfdvHIh0
Jimmy Smith used a big band for at least one album. the band is fun but not especially interesting. Smith is always great, though, imo

I just wanna say how cool the picture of Takayanagi on the OP is.

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5bfhz0l0UJoNGEIVg7jCA5UZS6_RpH8U&si=Qf5vbn_pejzUplHt

certifiable kino

>>127408973
yeah i enjoyed that song so much that i tried a couple of jimmy smith albums, good compositions and playing but i just wasnt in the mood for just b3 organ so i kept it too one listen

>>127407423
thats like the only guy i know about that i can think of really

>>127409059
fuck off

>>127410221
Vijay Iyer?

For me, it's chamber jazz

these guys are on fire but i have to go to bed now, night jazz

https://youtu.be/ACunWGEQ3LY

>>127348643 (OP)
ed edd n eddy music

>>127348643 (OP)
Bump

>>127352344
>electric piano isn’t jazz
Retard

>>127411003
and thats a good thing

>>127412601
He's right

good morning jazzers

swinging with an orchestra sounds amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIbVx-dAQY

>>127414641
sup

>>127410889
very cool.
reminds me of Maiden Voyage era Ramsey Lewis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnGRfQtFmp8
he also did Quinn the Eskimo on that one

>>127414905
always has

Man, raptourists sure are impressed easily...

>>127415755
its too 70s for me, i needed 3 attempts to get through the album. theres a bunch of stuff i like there but when they start playing beatles its becomes too much for me

>>127418440
never heard this album but it sounds like something i would say or have said before

oldie but a goodie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJpFkgiPpEk

>>127417572
they're barely jazz to begin with. also hip hop fans into jazz and their opinions shouldn't matter, they literally would call TPAB a jazz album

what are the essential jazz fusion albums?

>>127419589
red clay and don't go a step further to fusion

>>127419589
tony williams lifetime emergency
one of the only fusion albums with a cutting-edge rhythm section

>>127419132
>they literally would call TPAB a jazz album

Chet “relentlessly handsome” Baker

>>127354300
You just described jazz/folk, honestly even kpop is better than those genres, music for old senile hermits.

>>127421496
Can't handle strong music, typical weakling

>>127419589
for me its pic related

>>127419813
I'd add "Sunflower" (1973), "Circles" (1970), "Ethiopian Knights" (1972), "Emergency!" (1970) and maybe "Afric Pepperbird" (1971) to also actually good fusion records.

>>127423446
Oops, "Afric Pepperbird" actually came out in 1970, not 1971.

>>127414905
Based jazz jew, can't believe how much good shit he puts out there for free.

>>127425497
ew

Jazz is making a comeback

>>127425704
2kino4u?

>>127354283
i really like otomo yoshihide stuff

>>127423446
no

>>127425707
Jazz makes a "comeback" every 10 years or so, which invariably brings out all the pretentious tourists trying to shill some half-decent singer as the literal savior of the genre lol. This is nothing new or interesting.

>>127423446
afric pepperbird is not really fusion

I saw Otomo Yoshihide live two months ago and I bought this sweet box set and he signed it for me :)

>>127427067
I'd say it's fusion-adjacent, like a lot of those Don Cherry records released around that time and that hugely influenced them.

>>127425707
Jazz has been having a continuous comeback since the 2010s

>>127421496
Extremely weak bait

>>127417572
These folks seemed like plants but I think that's obvious. A lot of articles focusing on them being zoomers and a lot of made for Instagram photo ops. I wouldn't mind if jazz became a zoom generation thing but I was not that into this music

>>127419589
Bitches Brew

>>127427192
Based jazz jew is way more important for promoting jazz to zoomers and highlighting actually good zoomer jazz musicians.

>>127427225
he even made me warm up to the soprano sax! https://www.youtube.com/live/q09FAhLhuiE

>>127427443
Truly a miracle worker

>>127427139
I'd say it's not fusion

>>127427225
i wonder if that retard who thinks john zorn is a zionist would seethe over him too kek

>>127427225
Genuinely some of the best showing of music on the modern era. Reminds me why I love jazz. So many players playing with a click track now and it's all over engineered and shit. I can't stand "jazz as an art from".

Jazz is a music to get together with your buddies and swing hard first and foremost.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBppVe7nhM
One of my favorites. Granted I'm a huge Stanley turrnentine fan and this is one of my favorite songs but alas

>>127430375
great sax performance with the fun comping

>>127430375
>players playing with a click track now and it's all over engineered
that shit makes me fucking sick, rap truly poisons everything it comes into contact with

Recommend me smooth jazz to eat my bf's ass to

night jazz

finna bump

Saved ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geasRdRR_18

anyone got any more tracks where the trumpet player sings for their second chorus? like https://youtu.be/LSHevGXSKuk or https://youtu.be/qzZOiVtsJiI

vump

>>127348811
what the hell does this nigga even mean by this

>>127440406
maybe he would like to be inside of one

>>127432429
seconding this request even though I'm single

the bootlegs from the european tour that followed kind of blue are better than the album?

https://youtu.be/HgaAM4pTIqw

>>127444054
Duh, Wynton Kelly is way better than Bill Evans and was an actual member of the band, not just some overrated ytboi Miles only included to steal tunes from.

>>127444079
I will not stand for Bill Evans slander.

>>127444977
He's alright, but a bad fit for that band specifically.

>>127444977
Everyone loves Bill Evans… as long as he sticks to his thing. He was a mediocre sideman.

Bill Evans the banjoist > Bill Evans the penist

>>127444977
He was goated in the late 50s and early 60s. I don't care for his material much beyond that.

>>127444079
Kys

>>127447772
Chilllll bruh, smoke a blunt or sumn

>>127449978
nta but ok

>>127445274
*digs

>>127432429
>>127442338
Grover Washington is my favorite for that sorta stuff but here's a bunch of songs you can pick from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVDZ5UY_oDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6T8r4U4pJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Vy43XK7GI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jgmV1-7VGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jvdy6khEmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPH1IuMtFGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzfzQ1TvzJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2AW5JUhTNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHtjTnNZ_Tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RXakApNPmg

>>127450203
>posts smooth jazz
>thread nearly dies
Wew

>>127451779
its happened before, too

Post kino live performances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E41aJtQbzis

Anyone familiar with the band Hiroshima? I don't know what's popular. Recommend me stuff similar to this or just instrumentals you like and I will give them a listen. Some songs from the band:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uoqer1oN01s&pp=%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZi1nprkb-k&pp=ygUQa29rb3JvIGhpcm9zaGltYdIHCQmtCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7o18CSYRo1Q&pp=ygUSb25lIHdpc2ggaGlyb3NoaW1h

>>127413691
Dolphy ?

>>127425729
Doesn't it show up on YT's spam suggestions

Jazz is...

>>127452306
holy shit sex with Esperanza aaa!!!!!

>>127453109
Yes ?

What if Mark Turner was a Mexican woman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGvDicyI4d4

>is titled 'images of Curtis fuller'
>not an image of Curtis fuller
What did he mean by this?

Think about jazz you like. Did the musician partake in heroin? If yes then it’s fucking shit and you are a retard.

>>127458063
Dumb post

>>127458177
t. incensed enjoyer of heroin noodling

>>127457397
*What if Sonny Rollins was a Chilean woman

>>127457397
>Mark Turner
This album was great. I still need to dive into more of his stuff, happy to take recs.

>>127459118
Sonny wasn't really into that upper register almost overblowing stuff she's doing, which is very much a Mark Turner thing.
>>127459137
The first two Fly (trio with Grenadier/Ballard) discs are very good. Also "Turning Point" with Aaron Goldberg, "Perspective" with Jaleel Shaw, "Cities and Desire" with David Binney, "Parallels" with Lee Konitz and "The Next Step" with Kurt Rosenwinkel, though most of these are pretty essential to late 90s/early 00s jazz in general, so I'd assume you've heard some of them before.

>>127459187
I've listened to all of her studio albums and many live performances, she's a Rollins girl through and through

The best thing about listening to jazz is when you acquire an ear for all the different styles over the past century and then find a musician that can coherently incorporate all of them into one song or solo. Pianists are unsurprisingly the best at this. When someone can seamlessly go from 1920's stride to 1940's bebop, then 1950's hard bop and 1960's postbop stuff all in one go, it sounds like nothing else. It's the type of shit jazz was made for, as this is when it truly unlocks musical and emotional territories no other genre can do. Guys like Jaki Byard were masters at this, and understanding that level of musicianship is by far some of the most satisfying times I've had being a music fan.

>>127459187
Thanks for the recs, I've heard some Konitz which I enjoyed and some Rosenwinkel which I did not. I'm more into Sonny Fortune, David Murray and Joe Lovano for that period.

>>127459555
Agreed.

I also use this as a criterion for assessing "free jazz" musicians.

>>127459088
>noodling
go back

>>127458063
they were men with their eyes, ears and minds open in a brutal, racially segregated society. you cant really blame them for wanting to put the blinders on from time to time

>>127460841
The generations of black jazz players before them had it much worse and didn't become heroin junkies. Fucking stupid excuse.

I never really like solos played on this instrument because they sound strained, like the instrument does not want to be played quickly. Does that make any sense

>>127462621
Drug war barely existed back then, retard. Heroin was exponentially more popular in the 50s than in the 40s, and even more so in the 60s than in the 50s, etc. You're delusional if you think chattel slaves wouldn't do hard drugs if they had the means/opportunity
>>127462725
I know what you mean but there are slower double bass soloists out there. I think that's a bigger problem with the flute.

>so-called jazz fan only listens to white artists
>not primarily, only

Red flag or SJW overreaction?

>>127462873
Not wrong for liking the music, but stupid for limiting themselves for no reason

>>127462810
>Drug war barely existed back then
That's not true. You're a moron. A literal know nothing fucking retard faggot.

>>127462911
I know about the 1920s mobsters if thats what your hormonal outburst is referring to, but black communities barely had access to hard drugs until the1950s. Whatever dope they had beforehand was peanut crumbs by comparison. This is fact, I know this because I've read Gary Webb and Michael Rupert and other investigators who spent years talking about this stuff. I even know a guy who once met Oscar Danilo Blandon, so I know way more about this shit than you ever will. Now fuck off.

>>127462873
usually the former, sometimes the latter in my experience. like, you REALLY have to go out of your way to only listen to white jazzers unless you only listen to like three dudes, probably chet baker and bill evans and dave brubeck, maybe stan getz too

>>127462911
nta but u mad lol

>>127462942
>but black communities barely had access to hard drugs until the1950s
Holy shit stop posting. You have no idea at all about this subject.

>>127463019
You have no evidence or argument and you know it. Fuck off and don't come back, retard.

BLACK PEOPLE COULDN'T GET DRUGS BEFORE THE 1960s!!!!

I said "barely existed" for a reason you illiterate vermin.

BLACK PEOPLE COULDN'T GET DRUGS BECAUSE THEY BARELY EXISTED BEFORE THE 1960s !!!!

>>127463125
>>127463506
you're supposed to use greentext here, newfaggot

BLACK PEOPLE COULDN'T GREENTEXT BEFORE 1960 BECUASE OF RACISM!!!

>>127462989
>you REALLY have to go out of your way to only listen to white jazzers unless you only listen to like three dudes
>three dudes
No I'm talking the type of person who goes out of their way to listen to dozens of different artists, not some retard "list goes on" type of tourist.

>>127462911
Considering the term wasn't coined until the 1970s (along with drug epidemic and other terms to highlight how far black and hispanic communities lost some of their economic prosperity), pretty sure that guy is closer to the truth, and pivoting from shitty arguments to babby's first trolling just makes you look like a dipshit. Maybe get your high school diploma before typing online.
>>127462885
>no reason
Come on, we all know what their reasoning would be.

>>127348811
Live ass is best ass edition

No dude I swear blacks did not have access to drugs before bebop and they got addicted to heroin because of racism

>>127463580
Nobody was even using words like "epidemic" to refer to the war on drugs until the 1990s. Retard zoom-zooms born this century are completely ignorant of the facts, it was crazy how bad shit was getting year after year but it's all been memory-holed - we've all moved onto fentanyl and ozempic now.

>>127425707
And it's all thanks to Laufey and Ryan Gosling

Dear hipsters: please stop ruining Alice Coltrane. That is all.

>>127463971
>please stop ruining my hipster music

>>127462725
If you look really closely at scott lafaro during his solos you'll see that he's not playing bass but instead toying with a tiny rubber band for his own amusement

For me it's third stream

>>127464645
lol

>>127462725
Double bass fingering is absolutely awful, very wide spaces to cover

I can't put my finger on why Snarky Puppy sucks so much ass

>>127462725
It's bad because you only hear the attack if the phrase is too rapid, but literally every bass player except for overrated youngsters like Lafaro knows this and will thus tend toward slower, legato phrases that often cross bar lines, with the occasional fast flourish or rhythmic effect (like the very common Blanton triplet drop).

>>127465754
Cause it's a boring throwback to the worst style of jazz.
>>127465739
Intonation is literally not an issue other than for beginners. Even rather small women have no problem developing efficient technique.

>>127465805
Genuinely, thanks for the insight. I hate to be the "NAME THREE SONGS" kind of faggot but could you tell me a recording I could check out if I want to see what you mean?

he looked like such a disgusting junkie in his later years
https://youtu.be/dDvmNk50MOQ

>stumbled across Portrait of Tracy
>find it immensely spiritually moving
>wow this Jaco Pastorius must be a genius composer
>listen to all of the albums he put out in his lifetime
>literally every single track on them except for Portrait of Tracy is blackened brimstone, proto-Seinfeld theme, soulless youtube virtuoso crap completely devoid of any emotional heft or compositional maturity

The casuals who just listen to an artist's most famous song were right in this instance. What a waste of time. Fusion crap lets you down every time you give it an honest chance.

>complete silence
>sad single piano block chord
>depressing breathy drawn out trumpet or sax note
>more silence
>pointless trumpet/sax phrase that goes on for too long and says nothing
>second piano block chord
Welcome to every other bebop recording. The other kind is crackhead noodling that sounds like a bumblebee shitting itself.

chadbop make ya seethe

>>127468605
That sounds more like typical ECM crap tbqhwy

>>127464037
I've been listening to her for decades before p4k and fantano existed, go back, kiddie

>>127468605
>bebop
>silence
doubt

>>127465754
Pop music played with woodwinds and brass. They are the least jazzy-sounding jazz band of our times.

>>127469706
It was always hipster jazz lol

>>127471997
She didn't always play le spiritual ambient stuff, tourist. I'm talking about people who only listen to Journey because it's so light on jazz elements.

>>127468566
I wanted to hate this post due to Montpetite posting but goddamn is it a truth nuke.