Thread 128018086

Chopin edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hNRLhmMNHo

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

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Favorite Schumann chamber piece?

>>128018282
I always get him confused with Schubert

>>128018282
I don't listen to much Schumann at all but I've recently learned to play his first piece of the Gesange der Fruhe for piano and it's a sweet little piece, I might learn the rest of the opus later

>>128018282
Ah, he's got so many. Violin sonatas, piano trios, string quartets, piano quartet and quintet, various cello pieces like the Fantasiestücke... anyway, favorite would have to be the piano quartet and quintet. Supreme masterpieces.

Piano Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-KnX46yew

Piano Quintet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qab8uZUMfRY

video I came across: My Disaster at the Chopin Competition: A Pianist’s Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQHWKQAphHE

Reminder that Bach and all major composers were Christian.

>>128018458
Most of them were atheist. Bach was likely one as well.

>>128018458
and how is that knowledge useful to us

>>128018458
>>>/pol/

>>128018469
Correct

List of Atheist Composers:

John Cage
Philip Glass
Uhmm
Iannis Xenakis

>>128018488
Uhmm is way too fucking underrated here

>>128018472
But how does that affect you?

what would you say are the main aspects you focus on when listening to music?

I can't stop listening to Beethoven's piano sonatas, so good! Lately with a focus on the early ones (No. 16 and before). I should start leaning more heavily on the ones after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqp1wMwU3yk

Essential Beethoven Piano Sonata cycles

>>128018507
I'm just listening to enjoy. I guess sometimes I'm trying to keep up with the form.

>>128018526
>fucking Levit but no Ohlsson or Goodyear
well at least you have Kempff and Gulda there

Any pianists have cheap electric keyboard recommendations?

Only worthwhile Beethoven cycles
>Backhaus
>Arrau
>Gilels

>>128018543
Ohlsson has a cycle? Didn't know. I recognize the craftsmanship and vitality of Goodyear's cycle but it's too fast, too virtuosic for me. I like my Beethoven with less aggression and power, more poetics and sensitivity. One could argue virtuosity, aggression, and power are essential to the true Beethoven spirit, a point I wholly respect, but it just doesn't sound good to me. Maybe someday I'll come around on it. I'm gonna give it a full listenthrough soon. Many critics agree with you on it though.

>>128018582
retarded boomer
>>128018589
Ohlsson is to me the essential modern cycle. check out his No. 23.

They're not going to let this fatso win the Chopin competition I bet. It has to be some beautiful woman or a handsome man

>>128018526
if you're a period instrument guy like me, listen for Ronald Brautigam's cycle

>>128018582
Love Backhaus but I haven't heard his cycle in ages, and I recognize it's not for everyone, and in fact one could argue his positive traits have since been supplanted by more modern cycles. I'll have to revisit it before I truly decide.

>>128018627
That's the cycle I give to someone I hate for Christmas. Teasing. I'm sure his is great if you're into that sound but I am not, sorry.

>>128018663
Understandable. My logic is that it's what Beethoven would've heard. There may not be much of a difference, but I think there is.

>>128018684
"heard" who am I kidding

>>128018684
>beethoven
>heard

Beethoven wasn't born deaf though.

>>128018684
Meh, things like that don't factor into my thinking whatsoever, I just look for whatever sounds best to me, whichever satisfies the aesthetic traits I desire.

>>128018561
Dear music lover,Looking for a budget-friendly electric keyboard? There are great options under $300 that offer solid sound and playability for pianists. Here are some recommendations and tips to guide your choice.The Yamaha PSR-E373 (~$200) is a fantastic 61-key keyboard with touch-sensitive keys, 622 voices (including quality piano tones), and features like a metronome, lesson mode, and USB MIDI connectivity. Its semi-weighted keys and built-in speakers make it ideal for beginners or casual players. It’s versatile, with 150+ accompaniment styles for jamming.The Casio CDP-S160 (~$250–$300) is a step up, with 88 weighted, hammer-action keys that feel closer to an acoustic piano. It has 10 tones, including a warm grand piano sound, and a slim, 24-lb design. With USB MIDI, headphone jack, and sustain pedal input (pedal not included), it’s perfect nigger for pianists wanting authenticity on a budget.For portability, the Alesis Recital (~$200) offers 88 semi-weighted, touch-sensitive keys, five voices, and a lesson mode. Its 20-watt speakers and USB MIDI make it great for practice or music production. At 15.7 lbs, it’s easy to move.For beginners, the RockJam RJ761 (~$120–$150) is a 61-key bundle with a stand, bench, pedal, and headphones. It has 100 voices and rhythms but non-weighted keys, best for casual use.Prioritize weighted keys for a piano-like feel if you’re serious about technique. Ensure touch sensitivity for dynamics and check for USB MIDI if you use music software. Bundles save money, and sales on Amazon or Sweetwater can lower costs. Used keyboards from Reverb or local shops are also worth exploring.The Casio CDP-S160 is my top pick for pianists, but all these options deliver value. Happy playing!Best,
A pianist

Reminder BIABH

>>128018469
Atheists are not known for their honesty.

>>128018892
they're "known for honesty" much more than any religious leader ever has been that's for sure

>>128018913
t. revisionist faggot

>>128018913
no

>>128018941
have you simply never read anything about anything at all or are you just baiting?

>>128018973
I don't read democrap politricks

>>128018973
You talk like a marxist, atheist scum.

>>128018797
Thanks for the recommendations, going to play some at a local music store before pulling the trigger on anything.

>>128018986
>>128018991
>>>/pol/

>>128019000
it's AI bro

>>128019000
Looks like an AI response, I'd doublecheck the information before making a decision.

>>128019005
>>Reddit

>>128018561
This is the kind of question that reddit is better suited for, perhaps on /r/piano

>>128019006
>>128019009
Yeah it looked weird as fuck - I'm an idiot apparently

>>128019025
Not at all. It's just a brave new world we're living in, a techno-hellscape which requires constant vigilance and a critical lens of everything.

>>128018913
Exactly
>>128019015
Fuck off back there, yes.

now playing

start of Schubert: Symphony No. 8 in B Minor, D. 759 "Unfinished"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hh77j8zDpA&list=OLAK5uy_m8z32N2zVICTysuTRSC2HI11SSTCGwimU&index=1

start of Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C Major, D. 944 "Great"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bryZqI9Rz7I&list=OLAK5uy_m8z32N2zVICTysuTRSC2HI11SSTCGwimU&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m8z32N2zVICTysuTRSC2HI11SSTCGwimU

feeling like it's time to finally revisit Jochum's Bruckner, back to where I started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6Id777Hnk

>>128019035
Yeah... it's a bit maddening to be around coworkers who sing the praises of AI all day long.

>>128019070
Album cover looks like Lenny just got some devastating news while on the phone lol

>>128019113
Lol no, it's like my 5th favorite Beethoven symphony, and I listen to Beethoven symphonies like once a month.

>>128019171
>Lol no, it's like my 5th favorite Beethoven symphony

>hfw

>>128019038
>lefty sissy faggot

YWNBAW

>>128019190
>religious crybaby bursts in tears
>troons out of nowhere
kek

I'm listening.

In the end, everything is ultimately all about Wagner. He is the prophet. The one who will guide us to salvation. This planet should turn into a giant place of worship, where everyone comes together dressed in togas to recite and celebrate "Wagner" around a bonfire. The world as Wagner envisioned, a world with merriment and joy. All people regardless of color, culture and race united in one spirit.

Wagner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-n0TLAk-28&list=RDD-n0TLAk-28&start_radio=1

>>128019460
In this moment I am euphoric Wagnersister

>>128019460
>>128019478
>>128019521
Praise W.

I can only masturbate thinking about Tannhäuser overture. I avoid listening due to overstimulation.

>>128018582
Gilels doesn't even have all of them lmao

>>128020634
Still essential tho

I asked my kitty who's her favorite pianist, and she purred in reply,
>ARRAUW!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O6aBBFJ9xY

>>128020634
The best a man can get

>>128020705
It's not a cycle.

Does Karajan follow Mozart's repeats? I can't remember.

now playing

start of JS Bach: Partita no. 3 in A Minor, BWV 827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0BykKOEKyo&list=OLAK5uy_lsdWcZ8MdDjangaO2NKOaNQZ-xc5Q1dUk&index=2

start of JS Bach: Partita no. 1 in B-flat Major, BWV 825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhT5Oy9pOLc&list=OLAK5uy_lsdWcZ8MdDjangaO2NKOaNQZ-xc5Q1dUk&index=9

start of JS Bach: Partita no. 6 in E Minor, BWV 830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4nAGum_x5E&list=OLAK5uy_lsdWcZ8MdDjangaO2NKOaNQZ-xc5Q1dUk&index=14

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lsdWcZ8MdDjangaO2NKOaNQZ-xc5Q1dUk

Always on the lookout for great recordings of these works, especially because there aren't many that scratch the itch. Sure, the popular idiomatic ones like Hewitt and Perahia and less well-known romantc ones like Maria Tipo and Irma Issakadze are pretty enjoyable, but I wish there were more like Koroliov's -- slow, contemplative, poetic. I guess I can't really complain because they are supposed to be dance-like. Anyway, let's see how Goode does it, I'm sure it'll be solid.

>>128019283
People still use AAC?

I don't listen to any recordings from the 21st century because I'm afraid it's going to infect my taste with its spiritually inferior performance quality.

>>128020959
That is a good practice. Not listening to any modernist performers, as in anyone born after 19th century is even more admirable.

Can't tell if having a different favorite performer/recording for each Beethoven piano sonata is based, excessively autistic, or even outright silly.

>>128020959
Just admit you're too scared to listen to classical recordings that hasn't been pre-curated for you by the filtering vicissitudes of time.

>>128021228
All 3 at the same time

>>128018619
I hope Yanyan Bao or Kałduński win. But it's probably going to be Kevin Chen or Eric Lu.

>>128020959
Only listening to composer's own recordings is the best form of purism

>>128021228
none really
it's mildly interesting at best and perfectly normal if he is your favorite composer

>>128018561
Casiotone ct-s300 is okay but it doesn't have all 88 keys.

>>128021741
Most composers weren't exceptional conductors and don't make the best recordings of their own works.

>>128020935
I guess? I convert flac to opus, but sometimes the albums come to me as any other format and I dont care that much.

>>128022214
This, but the exact opposite.
Conductors who don't compose, pianists who can't improvise, aren't worth shit. You can clearly hear this from the golden age of recordings. All the expressiveness those composers brought is lost in time.

>>128022568
>Conductors who don't compose, pianists who can't improvise, aren't worth shit.
I agree, but the opposite isn't true. You can have great composers who are middling conductors. Think of Stravinsky.

>>128022624
but he has the best recording of his own Rite of Spring

>>128022998
No he doesn't...

watching the NFL on mute while listening to classical :)

>>128022998
Would this technically be HIP?

>>128018440
QRD?

>>128023809
because of the recent Chopin competition

I LOVE the Andante/2nd movement from Beethoven's 5th, he must have been so happy to have composed it, a true stroke of genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwylm2DZgs&list=OLAK5uy_lGBIeEzw-xZS9cytpIxmlrXZ4KlA7nkGw&index=18

>>128023823
>Use coupon CHOPIN2025 for a 40% flash sale to ALL of my courses:
gross
just seems irrelevant if you're not an actual pianist who would want to play in these competitions. it's not even about this year's competition. you don't have to share every video that you come across. thiss video was already recommended to me a bunch of times but i didn't click on it because i have other things that are more worthy of my time. by the way, when adults talk about waste of time, it has a more profound meaning, that life will be over before you know it so you should treat yourself and others with decency and respect.

>>128024359
and I didn't even watch it myself! hehe

idk I saw some anons posting about the competition these last few days so felt like someone else might be interested, that's all

>>128018582
no Gulda? no Kempff?

>>128024512
yeah, he's good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9I3DBPGItc&list=OLAK5uy_nldn1GtPphb9PyIBpze9wkAJh9wA_lWJA&index=2

Took me a bit to realize the genius of Gulda's Beethoven. His cycle has the rare distinction of sounding amazing every sonata, every movement, every note, which many of the other great cycles can't even do. You put on any sonata from his and you're struck with 'damn, he pulls it off.'

Here to once again shill this new album

>>128021741
Beethoven’s conducting of his 9th was so terrible that no one knew how great the work was until someone else conducted it after his death. He was deaf ofc

now playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlxl8Dpbp0

>>128025220
Anon the very first performance of the 9th was a famous success

>>128025265
don't reply to trolls.

>>128023292
yes he does, with the Columbia Symphony Orchestra. it's even is Stereo
>>128023761
I guess

>>128025198
obligatory
>George? Chopin was gay??
post

>>128025340
Unironically people do try to claim that although not because his lover's name was George.

>>128024086
Listened to the 5th through the 7th from this cycle just now, and gotta say, this uber slow Beethoven doesn't do it for me anymore. Sorry, Barenboim.

now playing

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 23 in F Minor, Op. 57 "Appassionata"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvZUQHM2_Ds&list=PLwwzaMTPIDW9AOYshf5ZEaDTqfX4o0A65&index=45

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 3 in C Major, Op. 2 No. 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTmsBxFvLEg&list=PLwwzaMTPIDW9AOYshf5ZEaDTqfX4o0A65&index=48

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 25 in G Major, Op. 79 "Cuckoo"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2-pej7_yV8&list=PLwwzaMTPIDW9AOYshf5ZEaDTqfX4o0A65&index=52

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 27 in E Minor, Op. 90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXj2AICuPRU&list=PLwwzaMTPIDW9AOYshf5ZEaDTqfX4o0A65&index=55

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 28 in A Major, Op. 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj4yGVajhYA&list=PLwwzaMTPIDW9AOYshf5ZEaDTqfX4o0A65&index=57

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lj_mxOV372__0dfMGW-WLBbfWOWEfJQKA

>>128025198
It's not hard to find but you could at least post a link, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Kam-KJ_Ms&list=OLAK5uy_mlnnUCrDloqapfO3E5oGgrP2hC5HnlWnc&index=1

I intend to listen to every recording of Liszt's Annees de pelerinage, Harmonies poetiques et religieuses, and Sonata in B minor. Anyone else have any pieces and composers they feel the same way about?

Devienne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plOA-5fzY-Y

>>128025340
why was a woman named George in the first place

>>128026374
idk, why am I named Jessica as a man? sometimes it just happens

Schiff doesn't have a recording of Bach's Art of Fugue? How embarrassing.

>>128026472
more like Ard of Fugg.
:DDD

>>128026515
i wish, tonight all I'm getting is the Art of Tuggg

>>128026532
never goon.

>>128026560
lmao that filename wtf

>>128026374
it's a pen name, not her real name

Relating to the topic the other thread, y'know what piece I've found is ironically awful for falling asleep to? Bach's Goldberg Variations. There's way too much going on, too beautiful, too vivacious. Maybe how it was originally performed on the harpsichord was different, given what it was written for, but yeah, whenever I've tried using it to sleep, I end up staying up and having to change to something else.

>>128026067
>Bach's Christmas Oratorio, Goldberg Variations.
>Cantigas de Santa Maria
>All of Hildegard von Bingen

>>128026602
>Goldberg Variations.
for real? I was just thinking about this earlier in this context, except I was thinking about how there are way, way too many recordings of it. No one who isn't getting paid to listen to and review music could listen to even half of all of the well-produced recordings of it out there.

Going back to this

>>128026620
Not in an exhaustive way, thats impossible as you say (almost all of the famous Bach works are like that). But I really enjoy listening to a lot of recordings of the same piece, and I have never attempted to reduce my digital collection to a subset of hand picked performers or recordings (a ver common mindset in this general).

>>128026686
>But I really enjoy listening to a lot of recordings of the same piece, and I have never attempted to reduce my digital collection to a subset of hand picked performers or recordings (a ver common mindset in this general).
My brother.

>hey guys, tried any good Beethoven cycles lately?
>schnabel schnabel schnabel
>uh, yeah, nevermind

speaking of trying new Goldberg Variations recordings, tonight let's try Jeremy Denk's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu2h_aB0aIo&list=OLAK5uy_nHUdugP6HFfDNsZwO50H1nSr8jIEnh75s&index=1

>>128025198
>anything recorded after the 1960s
no thanks lel

Listening to Vivaldi.

Top 10 most mentioned composers on /mu/
>Bach (probably inflated by other Bachs) 67K
>Beethoven 61K
>Mozart 56K
>Wagner 30K
>Chopin 19K
>Mahler 15K
>Brahms 14K
>Debussy 14K
>Schubert 12K
>Stravinsky 12K

Most composers don't make it past 10K
Normalfags sure love talking about Bach without having listened to a single other baroque composer. Or Bach for that matter.

>>128028564
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F03_f0,%2Fm%2F082db,%2Fm%2F04k15,%2Fm%2F02xp9,%2Fm%2F06c44&hl=en
curious

WAGMI wagnerbros

>>128028784
>>128028837
Retard, choose composer when typing their name, not just 'search term'. There are other Wagners people have been searching for lately.

Kałduński and Khrikuli styling on the asians.

Chopin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTntMIwimXw&list=OLAK5uy_kk5hQNfa8RdELbhsa8dJ6XA_FwIyhOuR4&index=5

>>128029248
>piano goats
>piano gots
?
Lol
>pachmann
Based. But that barcarolle is incomplete. And it's the second time you're posting it kek

>>128029349
ah yes i posted it when was an anon asking for every baracolle recording to decide which one is the best

Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBK4FKR5QGQ

Besides Muti's set, what are some other good non-HIP sets of Mozart's last symphonies that observe the repeats?

>>128018282
Piano quartet.

>>128028784
Mozart is unironically underrated because he is so popular. People appreciate his work less because it is less "special", not realizing that he is special because everyone after him takes elements from him. Same story with Haydn but at least he is liked by contrarians.

>>128028784
>>128028837
Who the fuck just googles "mozart"?

I want to say something, but I can’t say it.

>>128029466
N

With the South Koreans advancing and currently performing in the Chopin Competition, let’s take a moment for some words of praise for my favorite Asians, the South Koreans. We have to give it to the 200 IQ South Korean who adopted Judeo-Masonic, Anglo liberal capitalism and 120%, balls-to-the-wall speed ran it to its logical conclusion in literally less than one generation:
>0.00 birth rate
>deranged feminism
>income/wealth disparity
>hyper-competitive society/upbringing
Still, the based Korean turned his rice farm that wasn’t supposed to make it into the most impressive, admired, technologically-advanced Great Power in the world (I mean Great Power literally, as in IR theory, Korea is a cultural, economic, military Great Power with power projection). The South Korean Man marches on. I’m a big fan.

>>128029524
competitions are for horses

>>128029524
If only we had North Korean recordings, there have been orchestras, composers and performers from there but not one recording to my knowledge ever came out of the country.

If they ever open up tourism again, I want to go on a tour with a performance of their national symphony orchestra just because I am genuinely curious what it sounds like. Would it sound like you just got transported into the mid-20th century? If so, that'd be awesome.

>>128028564
>Taneyev 0.2K

ngmi.

>>128028564
Bruckner is under Stravinsky? Huh

Igor Levit's Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UqfzsLBi0&list=OLAK5uy_lzzDwhIVQgvT6z17nCI8DFxrhPtAuhRik&index=26

>>128029948
Yeah... this is a 10/10

So I'm trying classical for the first time and besides some speed violin from Vivaldi, all the mainstream ones are just not that good. Classical is like elevator music. Do people unironically enjoy it or is it something whites say they like in order to have a culture?

>>128030149
this just means you only like fast angry music like some teen

>>128030149
No we're just faking it. You figured us out.

>>128030159
Music has to be stimulating otherwise it's background noise.

>>128030211
stimulate THIS
*turns around and spreads asshole enough for you to see my prostate*

>>128029974
t. Levit

>>128030277
Try it.

>>128030337
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkeiHYIBpGU&list=OLAK5uy_l_2TW2dhbfveOU5-j69rTMu2MwyfTcscM&index=26

>>128030385
I love, love Arrau but the recording quality on this is unlistenable. I wish it were in better quality.

now playing

start of Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 in C Minor, WAB 108 (1887/90 Versions, Ed. Haas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28CWYr1FMVk&list=OLAK5uy_mVUKQsfUnNJrVduVZh2wacLPwqmI5bf4Y&index=30

start of Bruckner: Symphony No. 9 in D Minor, WAB 109 (Ed. Nowak)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uditADtRN5g&list=OLAK5uy_mVUKQsfUnNJrVduVZh2wacLPwqmI5bf4Y&index=33

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVUKQsfUnNJrVduVZh2wacLPwqmI5bf4Y

now playing

start of Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 in C Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_TO8YJB6zI&list=OLAK5uy_nCwDrTOdeZKlfj93Ub2PoehwNcFTVRxxk&index=2

start of Bruckner: Symphony No. 9 in D Minor, WAB 109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMeWKpsvAMw&list=OLAK5uy_nCwDrTOdeZKlfj93Ub2PoehwNcFTVRxxk&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nCwDrTOdeZKlfj93Ub2PoehwNcFTVRxxk

Crazy Jochum has a 27:25 Adagio yet a 20:46 Finale in the 8th, you don't usually see that large of a disparate ratio.

When some anons here won't even give modern recordings a try, it does somewhat lead credence to the idea they are only into classical music as a mechanism of revolt against the modern world.

>>128030480
arr sound same, it's like they all had the same teacher

>>128030534
...? You might've had a stroke, anon, go see a doctor.

What's the best collection of Schubert Lieder? I only want the good stuff.

>>128030562
That's really more of the kind of thing where you choose your preferred recording based on the quality of the vocalist.

>>128027079
>he doesn’t listen to Glenn Gould’s Mozart or Beethoven

ngmi

>>128030640
>he listens to Gould

>>128030149
It’s an acquired taste for most people who weren’t raised in a household that listens to it. Vivaldi is actually my favorite composer as well, if you like his violin stuff try Bach’s violin works.

>>128030640
How is Gould's Beethoven anyway? Obviously his piano concertos with Bernstein are fantastic but I don't think I've ever heard his renditions of the sonatas.

>>128030618
Any particular singers you could recommend?

>>128030655
I listen to Gould playing Schoenberg

>>128030659
Okay, will do.

>>128030663
Actually my favorite Beethoven by him is his transcription of the 5th for piano. If you think that can’t be fantastic, then you’re in for a shock

>>128030640
I've tried listening to Gould's Mozart and I could barely stand 20 seconds of it.

>>128030666
Doing a quick search as a refresher, I've enjoyed recordings of Schubet's Lieder by


Anne Sofie von Otter
Jessye Norman
Elly Ameling
Janet Baker
Kathleen Battle
Christine Schäfer

some samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZYiZdPMqk&list=OLAK5uy_kRLgjTk7tRsTn7NOJyNZA3DaE22_3GhNM&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vPX-g-SFEI&list=OLAK5uy_k2iuCL4KM2zIihzgVmNH0LgCMUo60-Q2A&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yYiUhQrZwk&list=OLAK5uy_kIs4SnMaItXczg5i0OzgvWPJuqNH4xxSQ&index=1

Unfortunately I'm not as up-to-date on more modern sets, which isn't aided by the fact they very rarely ever used the word 'lieder' in the title so it can be difficult to discover them if you don't already know the vocalist's name beforehand. I digress.

>>128030685
It’s used for exorcisms

>>128030702
kek

no but seriously, if a new set of Schubert's Lieder uses the title of just 'Schubert' as many modern sets do, I don't understand how you're supposed to discover it if you don't already know the singer's name or a chance encounter with a review or sample, because searching 'schubert lieder' won't pull it up, so annoying. Again, I digress

>>128030724
If you have the Apple Classical app then you just go to recording information, and tap the work the recording has, and it will bring up every recording of that work

>>128030751
Okay, and what if you don't use a fashion company's product to listen to music?

>>128030751
That's smart thinking and a useful feature. I don't use Apple Classical but still, thanks for sharing. I suppose I could just try searching the direct piece names too; instead of 'schubert lieder', I could search 'Geheimes, D. 719'

>>128030760
No worries, because you obviously use something better

In the rare event that a new release is actually worth listening to I'm sure some autist will post it here

>>128030788
>In the rare event that a new release is actually worth listening to
yeah yeah yeah whatever

>>128030562
pic rel is a treasure trove

now playing

start of Schubert: Piano Sonata No. 19 in C Minor, D. 958
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRtfQBrYg6c&list=OLAK5uy_k1B2bvvQFjKBmLX58XpJrZABfDn-Vx-5k&index=2

start of Schubert: Piano Sonata No. 20 in A Major, D. 959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfS07WgpUJQ&list=OLAK5uy_k1B2bvvQFjKBmLX58XpJrZABfDn-Vx-5k&index=6

start of Schubert: Piano Sonata No. 21 in B-Flat Major, D. 960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOUNRRAFozA&list=OLAK5uy_k1B2bvvQFjKBmLX58XpJrZABfDn-Vx-5k&index=9

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k1B2bvvQFjKBmLX58XpJrZABfDn-Vx-5k

>Perahia's up against some heavy competition from the likes of Arrau, Brendel, Pollini, as well as old-timers like Schnabel and Edwin Fischer. Even in such company he acquits himself well, playing with lean sonority that clearly etches Schubert's melodic lines and clarifies the structure of these sprawling works. In the B-flat Sonata he clearly differentiates the basic tempos of the first two movements, which can often blend into each other by pianists who just play them as two slow movements. In the great Andantino movement of the A major, he's alive to its inherent weirdness as Schubert sends a nostalgically beautiful melody off the deep end to fragmentation, then reassembles it into a broken shadow of itself. His approach here is effective, if relatively restrained as he keeps to a generally classical view of works some turn into Romantic extravaganzas. Perahia's is a worthy addition to the Schubert discography and an excellent way to get fine performances of all three of these great works in one well-recorded, neatly space-saving package. --Dan Davis

These sonatas are perfect for a grey, rainy morning like today. Get comfy and enjoy sublimity.

Anons here are afraid of trying new recordings because then they'd actually have to think for themselves. Listening solely to the recordings of the older greats, performances which have been curated by standing the test of time and developing a robust reputation, one always has permission of the cultural elite to enjoy. But a new recording? You'd have to actually think about the performance and determine its merit on your own. We can't have that now, can we?

I tease. Listen to whatever you want however you want. I believe in supporting those who are trying to keep the classical tradition alive.

>>128030825
These are enchanting recordings

>>128030960
:D

Volume 4 Disc 1... lets goooo

>>128030149
Listen to Rachmaninoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xQodIz01s&list=OLAK5uy_lgVzHhxfdv3NXjHGu_2cb1jEuh7RdahIQ&index=33

>>128030149
You likely are not listening to it properly and/or just not approaching it in an intellectually honest way.
>Classical is like elevator music.
>is it something whites say they like in order to have a culture?
You clearly have some level of distaste for it, with this attitude, you are never going to like it. It's the same as saying "Jazz is a jumble of baboon voodoo noise" and then wondering why you dont enjoy it.

>besides some speed violin from Vivaldi, all the mainstream ones are just not that good
What do you define as "good"? It seems like your main source of quality is how virtuosic it is rather than any substance within it's writing. There's more to music than just playing a lot of notes fast. You also likely are enjoying Vivaldi more because he generally writes in Ritornello form, which is quite easy to comprehend for someone used to pop music due to it having a repeated refrain. You should read up a bit more on the later forms and understand how those work. Namely Sonata-allegro.

>>128030699
Thank you, these are nice. I especially liked Elly Ameling. Do you have recommendations for male interpretations?

>>128031075
>You likely are not listening to it properly and/or just not approaching it in an intellectually honest way.

What a fucking dork lol. This general really attracts some losers I’m telling you

>>128029534
The losers do get put down

>>128031300
Do you want to actually get into classical music or not? Because you do have to approach the music differently than how you'd approach other styles. If you do not have the ability to do that because you think it's a dork thing to do, then nobody can help you with your question. And you might want to just go back to >>>/mu/ instead wasting yours and other people's time with dumb questions you already answered in your mind

>>128031300
/lit/ is worse

There is not enough mention of the "Great Lord" Bruckner in this thread, This is now a Bruckner discussion only zone.


We know every other composer except Beethoven cannot hope to compete with Bruckner, so lets just drop our copes and admit he is the greatest. Please folks, accept truth and reality and just say it, say it with me.

"Bruckner is the Greatest"


B R U C K N E R
R
U
C
K
N
E
R

Bruckner.

Bruckner.

B.

Scriabi recommendations?

>>128031300
You won't get into classical with that attitude. Since you're new and ignorant you should learn to listen to others first and foremost, or you're welcome to continue listening to your slop over at >>>/mu/. Would be a shame though, since you'd be missing out on some great music.

>>128031429
Bruckner knelt before Wagner and kissed his hand.

>>128031450
Chen’s recording of his sonatas

>>128031412
>>128030149
Try any “top 100 classical” collections, there are a lot of them, and skip until you find works you like. There will be many. That’s a good entry point

>>128031451
I watch ballet and opera and this is some of the most pretentious posting I’ve seen on 4chan

>>128031486
That is the worst fucking way possible to do it. Just listen to some of the fucking established composers, start with baroque and move your way up. And what you call "pretentious" is just approaching the medium with any level of respect, please kys asap

>>128031412
That wasn't me, I saved a Bach violin playlist like another anon suggested and I'll give it a try when my mind is clear.

>>128031300
if you're put off by dorkiness then you'll never get into art.
art is a nerdy and dorky thing

>>128029435
IMO I find Muti's Mozart to be bland and uninteresting.

>>128031157
>male lieder
What, you think I'm gay or something?

Kidding. Nah, I'm not into male lieder. Either someone else will have to help you there or try just searching 'schubert lieder' on Spotify/Apple Classical/YouTube Music/Amazon and see what comes up with male vocalists.

>>128029435
My main man James Levine, of course. Surely you have his set already, MahoAnon?

Haitink!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ggwP-3vuU&list=OLAK5uy_lPHmk6mTK50NtmUerUkCj2nO7csNChp3Y&index=1

>>128031061
I never even heard of Rachmaninoff but that's a great piece.

>>128031458
Gay

>>128030659
>Vivaldi is actually my favorite composer

>>128030149
there is a lot of pretentiousness and people have bad taste so they obsess about some specific composers but they can feel elitist because it still counts as classical music even though they listen to different composers than the good ones. some music is meant to make you sad or whatever, some people say they literally cry tears. you probably need a good audio system to appreciate nuances properly because the recordings are generally not as heavily processed and vulgar as popular music, there's a lot of overlap between classical music listeners and audiophiles.

a different Mozart Piano Sonatas cycle to try, this one by Lili Kraus, whom I'd never heard of before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe9OnSjIkrc&list=OLAK5uy_mhYYOjmfMVrtQo132wRZGPQ9ASXBNjFzQ&index=46

Other sets on my to-listen list: Barenboim, Wurtz, Schiff

let's get Hiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT8tY_RZEwc&list=OLAK5uy_kCtB8YEBKjAZ-eokRlqMsNZvqFdcvilYo&index=50

>>128032091
love that set

>>128032195
I'm starting from the beginning of it, and so far the Preludes are incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds0vKVm_0io&list=OLAK5uy_kCtB8YEBKjAZ-eokRlqMsNZvqFdcvilYo&index=5

I could definitely see this set being one of my new favorites for Debussy, which is great because I've always had issues finding a set that was just right for his solo piano music.

>>128031967
>bad taste so they obsess about some specific composers but they can feel elitist because it still counts as classical music even though they listen to different composers than the good ones.

I'm sorry.

WHAT??? Can someone translate this sentence for me
>you probably need a good audio system to appreciate nuances
No you don't. A decent pair of headphones will do.

>>128032300
It's already in English, Ranjesh

>>128032550
It doesn't make any sense

>>128032576
To you maybe

>>128031450
Zhukov for the Sonatas
Ohlsson for the Etudes & Poems
Horowitz for everything he has of Scriabin
Muti for the Symphonies and other orchestral works
Ashkenazy/Maazel for the Piano Concerto
Alexeev for everything else

>>128032839
More like to anyone else in the thread

>>128033147
that's enough now anon

>>128033174
Enough what?

>>128030149
these are the works that got me into classical music
Rimsky-Korsakov - Scheherazade
Rachmaninov - Symphony No. 2, Piano Concerto No. 2, Paganini Rhapsody
Dvorak - Symphony No. 9, Cello Concerto & Violin Concerto
Brahms - Symphony Nos. 3 & 4, Piano Concerto No. 2, Piano Trios & Quartets
Elgar - Cello Concerto & Symphonies
Ravel - Piano Concerto for left hand
Chopin - Nocturnes, Ballades, Sonatas
Bach - Matthaus-Passion, Violin Concertos, Keyboard Concertos
Mozart - Requiem
Handel - Messiah, Organ Concertos
Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring
Raff - Piano Concerto
Scriabin - Piano Concerto, Sonatas, Etudes
Medtner - Piano Concerto Nos. 1 & 2

>>128033240
Great list.

>>128033240
Scheherazade is a total snoozefest that I wouldn't recommend to anyone who doesn't have years of classical listening experience under his belt

>>128033240
i'd skip the bach pieces too boring

>>128033240
>>128030149
oh yeah and i almost forgot Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto in E minor, Op. 64

>>128033290
You mean you'd skip the iconic 1st chorale of matthew passion, Erbarme Dich, double violin concerto and D minor keyboard concerto? The most newbie-friendly Bach? Even if you don't like Bach, you gotta admit these are the pieces that will get you interested in checking out the rest

>>128033218
That'll do pig, that'll do

You know how people used to play Operas and Symphonies with cuts? That's how I feel about the Schubert Impromptus. They would be way better if you cut them by about 30%.

The ship has sailed for being a virtuoso, I don't play this stuff. I just listen to it.

>>128033476
nothing wrong with that

>>128030149
Listen to Scriabin, you fucking pussy. The gunshot at the beginning should get you hooked immediately, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKA

>>128031450
Desert island album.

>>128033689
I have this on a wallpaper in my room, btw. I also sleep with my Helena Blavatsky underpants on and Scriabin etude scores under my pillow.

>>128031157
Hüsch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4PQgZxpaLE&list=OLAK5uy_nKzQy1EA5iyBer9-FCl5QBsZ-qPjTFHo8&index=30

Explain the differences between Bruckner and Mahler, in your words.

>>128034314
Bruckner is like a dry-aged steak: heavy, brawny, and unpretentious, but with plenty of craft, complexity and care put into it if.
Mahler is like an overpriced burger at a hipster bar: basically a cheap piece of shit covered in fancy ingredients to trick you into forgetting that you’re eating a glorified piece of shit.

>>128034862
So Bruckner is good meat served in a dull fashion
Whereas Mahler is also good meat but paired perfectly with appropriate ingriedients and a lively atmosphere?

When its time for the daily reminder

>Today I will remind them

BAB
A
B

>DAILY REMINDER
>DAILY REMINDER

IAA
A
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>average BABIAA listener

We will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin Nocturne

We are the Mockers of Mozart
We put a chokehold on classicism

We are the Cuckolders of Chopin
We are the Rapists of Romantics

We are the murderers of Mahler
We strike fear in every pretentious and neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies

>Listening to Bach
>not listening to Mozart
>Listening to Marais
>Not listening to Haydn
>Listening to Ravel
>not listening to Mahler
>listening to Stravinsky
>not listening to Schoenberg or Shostakovich

Is there a better feeling in this world?

>Your Romanticism
>My Foot
>Your Classicism
>My Fist

I will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin

>Bach
>Machaut
>Ives
>Marais
>Buxtehude
>Stravinsky
>Reich
>Bartok

No Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No Mahler
No Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul

Mozart gives me the ick,

As does Brahms, Mahler, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and Prokofiev

That is all

>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court
>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School
>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms
>No Perotin or Medieval Music

>If it ain't BAROQUE, don't fix it
>I dumped her because she BAROQUED my heart
>I had to go to the doctor because I BAROQUED my leg in a gondola accident
>I would go to the concerto with you, but I'm BAROQUE
>The Baroque BAROQUED the renaissance mold

Remember not all Romantics are bad but all bad composers do tend be Romantic, except for Classical, all Classical composers are shit
Below is a list of acceptable Romantics:

Field
Chabrier
Franck
Tarrega
Wagner*
Any of the Russian 5
Grieg
Alkan
Late Beethoven

NO MOZART
NO CHOPIN
NO MAHLER
ALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!

ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIE
THIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!

SONATA FORM SHOULD DIE
ONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!

HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEAT
WHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITE


BACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER

>>128035701
Almost everyone who cares about medieval and Renaissance and early baroque music is a classical listener tho.

>>128034314
Mahler is a lot more colorful. Bruckner more explores every shade of a single color.

>>128033278
hehe good one

It's impossible to not enjoy Scheherazade

>>128035721
Do you know how baroque is actually pronounced in French?

>>128035751
>>HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEAT
>WHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITE

cute

https://youtu.be/yZDsiH63RJE

Been a while since I’ve listened to the Cavatina - had me crying.

strauss

have a bad headache so couldn't listen to any classical music today :(

>>128038222
Get well soon, anon.

>>128038222
put a bullet through your skull.

>>128034314
>Mahler
Individualist, neurotic, ugly in a beautiful way
>Bruckner
Collectivist, poised, tryhard

>>128034314
Mahler is Wagner for wandering Jews and Bruckner is Wagner for Catholic peasants.

>Coughing at the 2025 Chopin Competition
https://youtube.com/shorts/kc8W-XCpWnE?si=1qQRbhUlQy04wuEh
rofl

Please don't share this with anyone else, but the reason I like classical so much is that whenever I lay my head to rest or am feeling otherwise calm, peaceful and serene, the compositions which I have studied/played multiple times can be turned on inside my head without the assistance of an intermediary device. Vaughan-William's Lark Ascending, for instance. Sometimes the compositions, especially in regard to Mozart, turn on by themselves. Regardless, I would like to reitterate my embarrassment in the sharing of these intimate thoughts and persuade anon to not shame or bully in some manner the input which I have shared.

>>128029554
That is a rather cool and intriguing thought to have shared.

>>128029554
>>128039454
There are some live recordings of e.g.Tchaikovsky's 6th by North Korean orchestea, it's not that deep, just search it on youtube.

>>128039409
I don't perform classical music but I also imagine it in my head, played at my own tempo and my own "interpretation", whenever I want, which is cool and all, but it also works with non-classical music, I don't listen to that anymore however.

>>128039488
I hate non-classical music for that very reason, especially pop-rock and electronic music. Maybe because I'm unsure whether those categories and more from the mainstream have been influenced by the intelligence agencies, such as Tavistock or the CIA, with the intention of grabbing hold through psychological means my brain and thus willpower. Classical music on the other hand is free from the influence of state power, unless it comes from schoenberg and his ilk, and, as I'm sure anon agrees, comes as more natural remedy in its application for healing the soul.

>Haydn was a friend and mentor of Mozart, a teacher of Beethoven, and the elder brother of composer Michael Haydn.

>Haydn's lifetime overlapped substantially with those of the most celebrated masters of Baroque music: he was born 18 years before the death of J. S. Bach and 27 years before that of Handel. Yet the models that influenced him, according to Karl Geiringer, were not at all these composers, but rather the leaders in the earliest development of the emerging Classical style, particularly in Vienna: his employer Johann Georg Reutter, Georg Christoph Wagenseil, and Georg Matthias Monn – none of whom wrote music that is widely played today.[74] This was a period of exploration and uncertainty, and Haydn was himself one of the musical explorers of this time.[75] Fairly early in his career Haydn discovered, and quickly came to revere, the music of a composer from outside Vienna, J. S. Bach's son Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach. Geiringer emphasizes how Haydn was struck by the emotional depth of Bach's work: "Up to then he had been familiar with the gay and superficial idiom of the musical rococo; here he found compositions that deeply stirred and excited him."[18]

J. S. Bach fanboys on suicide watch

>>128039679
It is well known among connoisseurs that large scale forms began to flourish with CPE Bach and Haydn. J.S. Bach was only good at counterpoint and fugues.

>>128039679
>>128039759
CPE Bach's music holds up genuinely well, much better than his father's. I never got why he's so underplayed

>>128040036
Because people are stupid. What do you expect?

>>128040073
I bet you can't explain the following comment, "Because people are stupid," without revealing a sense of indignation for the welfare of humanity. What causes this attitude and may haps it enters into force only for those within cities, not the country side or more remote regions of the world? Hrrrmphh.

>>128040036
For the same reason nobody plays the John Field Nocturnes.

>>128034314
Mahler's writing is like poetry, Bruckner's writing is more like a prayer.

To be less metaphorical, Mahler is a lot more varied, expressive and is less consistent in how he approaches form. Bruckner on the other hand sticks to a certain mood throughout each work and he is very consistent in how he structures his symphonies: his second movements are always in some form that resembles five part song form, it always begins and ends in his modified sonata-allegro form, his scherzos always have the same general characteristics. Mahler has a bit more variety on that front.

>>128034314
Aside from the responses received already, I would like to add something not yet mentioned, and that is this, Mahler was a Jew, who pretended otherwise, and Bruckner an ardent Catholic. The former is particularly concerning for obvious reasons, while Bruckner's situation requires a little nuance to deconstruct. The issue here is that the papacy has not been functioning under the ordinance of God, that is, of Saint Peter. Latin masses, praying in mosques, allowing female priests and promoting gay relations, these are all anthema to the teachings of Christ. Ever since the Great Schism of 1054, the Church established by Christ has been in a perpetual downfall, with respect to the ethical and jurisdictional framework established by the ecumenical councils and in regard to, specifically, the first sea of Rome.

>>128040500
>first sea of Rome

>>128040500
>>128040523
STAPH
NO
RELIGIOUS
DEBATES
PLEASE DUDE, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT MUSIC MAN, THIS IS NOT COOL

>>128040500
>The former is particularly concerning for obvious reasons,
Bigotry?
>papacy has not been functioning under the ordinance of God, that is, of Saint Peter
Good.
>more bigotry
Shocking.

>>128040716
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP

>>128040723
Bigotry must be shunned. We will not allow it here on /classical/.

>>128040730
SHUT UP
KILL YOURSELF
NOBODY CARES
YOUR MOTHER IS A WHORE
YOUR FATHER IS A HOMOSEXUAL I RAPED IN THE ASS

>>128031744
Levine was a gay pedophile, not the biggest fan of that. Upon learning that he molested younger members of his orchestra, I always feel a bit uneasy listening to his recordings.
>>128031721
I agree he doesn't have too much personality in the outer movements, but i always find him to do a great job with the andantes

>>128029554
I'm still taken aback by the uniqueness of your perspective. Very impressive. north korean anime.jpeg

>>128040744
>On December 2, 2017, it was publicly revealed that an October 2016 police report detailed that Levine had allegedly molested a male teenager for years. The alleged sexual abuse began while Levine was guest conductor at the Ravinia Music Festival, outside Chicago, where Levine was music director for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra's summer residencies from 1973 to 1993.
the fuck, im hearing this for the first time

>>128040730
KEEP TALKING
STAY ALIVE
EVERYONE CARES
YOUR MOTHER IS RESPECTED BY EVERYONE
YOUR FATHER IS OWED GRATITUDE BY THE ENTIRE PLANET

>>128040730
TALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
CHOOSE WHETHER YOU LIVE OR DIE
PEOPLE MIGHT CARE
YOUR MOTHER MAY OR MAY NOT BE A PROSTITUTE
YOUR FATHER COULD BE OF EITHER SEXUAL PERSUASION AND MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN RAPED IN HIS REAR

>>128029554
>>128040750
Its genuinely amusing that classical performers seem to always have the most balls when choosing places to perform. During the height of the cold war, they'd just waltz into the soviet union to play a show, then come back like it was an everyday thing. Meanwhile any rock act going to the soviet union made it this giant deal

>>128039679
>>128039759
>>128040036
Lol. Most of Classical period (and Romanticism) sounds like the wheels on the bus go round and round compared to late Baroque music. The latter literally hits the sweet spot between surface beauty and structural sophistication, it's the perfect synthesis of intellect and pleasure.

>>128040853
>The latter literally hits the sweet spot between surface beauty and structural sophistication, it's the perfect synthesis of intellect and pleasure.
That's a pretty accurate description of Bruckner, but he isn't baroque, tard

>>128040858
I would probably agree, but Bruckner has nothing to do with any of those posts, and nobody asked you anything, "tard."

>>128040853
I outgrew baroque.

>>128040905
People get dumber as they age, it's alright.

>>128040853
>>128040905
>>128040916
You can just... like Baroque, classical and romantic music at once. Don't know why there's a recent attempt to put the three against each other on this general

https://youtu.be/_YHhW0Gu4GY

>>128040916
They also grow wiser.
>>128040926
CIA. Just kidding, of course.

Next edition candidates: Mahler, Mednelssohn, Schoenberg, Alkan, Meyerbeer.
Choose wisely.

Next edition candidates: Wagner, Wagner, Wagner, Wagner, Wagner
Choose Wagner.

I'm actually getting tired of pretending music exists outside of british composers of the late romantic and early 20th century. Elgar and Vaughan-Williams, for instance, carry the whole weight of their predecessors within an admixture of Ruskin's enthonostate philosophy and aspiring religious pursuits.

>>128040926
>people mentioned: kanye west

>>128041008
Everything about it is weird. The album it's on, why the album cover has a leathery texture ontop of it, that youtube thinks it mentioned kanye west.

Altenburger's recordings are pretty good, he deserves better than this

>>128041027
As long as it's not HIP, I'm fine with it. Kanye West made me lol though

>>128040926
You're right. You can have preferences, but there's something from every period you can grow to love.

Stockhausen edition next or I'm not posting.

NEW THREAD

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>>128040764
What'd you think the sisterposter's jokes were all about?