Thread 128080852

Karlheinz Stockhausen Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLMtP8ejKA

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

prev: >>128067671

>Stockhausen edition
I am posting.

>>128080872
And we shall find out if I made a mistake...

Stock housing essential works?

speaking of Chopin, now playing

start of Chopin: Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-Flat Minor, Op. 35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_T7oSVcDI&list=OLAK5uy_n01kZ77ZSuBf7rkScZir5bZYFJz2IJ4c0&index=2

Chopin: Nocturnes, Op. 48: No. 2 in F-Sharp Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGWfVlLk3gs&list=OLAK5uy_n01kZ77ZSuBf7rkScZir5bZYFJz2IJ4c0&index=6

start of Chopin: Piano Sonata No. 3 in B Minor, Op. 58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC-Ah_otPS0&list=OLAK5uy_n01kZ77ZSuBf7rkScZir5bZYFJz2IJ4c0&index=7

Chopin: Barcarolle in F-Sharp Major, Op. 60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18KrcGBxR48&list=OLAK5uy_n01kZ77ZSuBf7rkScZir5bZYFJz2IJ4c0&index=10

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n01kZ77ZSuBf7rkScZir5bZYFJz2IJ4c0

>Rafal Blechacz has been deeply associated with the music of Fryderyk Chopin across his whole career. His devotion to the music of his great compatriot began long before 2005 when he won the Warsaw Chopin Competition. "I learnt both sonatas while still in my teens. Now I think it was the right moment to go to the studio and record this programme. I didn't want to wait any longer." - Rafal Blechacz.

I'm still on the search for my favorite recording(s) of Chopin's piano sonatas. Hopefully this one is a winner.

>>128080916
>Chopin's piano sonatas.
No.2: Rachmaninoff
No.3: Cortot
It's simple really.

>>128080924
>No.2: Rachmaninoff
Is that piano roll?

Do you have any modern favorites, RachAnon?

>>128080931
not that anon but my favorite is Gilels for both

>>128080911
non, he sucks

>>128080940
why? i like this piano piece OP posted, sounds a little like Messiaen

>>128080951
>why?
too much avantgarde foolery

>>128080911
I don't listen to Stockhausen, but what I would do is go here
https://www.talkclassical.com/threads/compilation-of-the-tc-top-recommended-lists.17996

and then ctrl+f 'stockhausen' and see what comes up, and if any do, those can be safely said to be essential. It probably won't be comprehensive but surely a good start, leading you in the right direction.

>>128080939
I do love me some Gilels. Didn't know he had any Chopin but I suppose I should have figured.

>>128080931
No. Listen to that funeral march (the reprise) and the finale is unlike anything else, and the rest obviously, it's something only Rach could do. Or has done at least. Horowitz and Godowsky are good also.
>>128080939
Yeah Gilels is good. Rach is over the top good for 2nd.

>>128081009
>it's something only Rach could do
well, he did have an unfair advantage.

>>128081009
>No.
If you have the time and inclination, you should give the Blechacz one I posted a quick sample. It may suck, I'm not vouching for it since I haven't heard it obviously, but yeah, you never know.

>>128080916
So this guy won the Chopin Competition in '05, and this recording came out in '23. 18 years. So that means in 2043, whoever wins this year might be releasing a similar album that will be posted here. Interesting to think about.

>>128081037
Sure why not. It probably won't suck though lol, piss label is actually good.
>>128081036
True

Listen to that smooth ascend into forte. And then descend back.
https://youtu.be/HdTX6RdI1zc?si=ZaMdow2aln6zZWZY&t=59
It's unbelievable.

Listen to that smooth ascend into forte. And then descend back.
https://youtu.be/HdTX6RdI1zc?si=ZaMdow2aln6zZWZY&t=59 [Open]
It's unbelievable the command he has over the instrument. That bit sounds almost dreadful. In a good way. Compare it to any other version.

Listen to that smooth ascend into forte. And then descend back.
https://youtu.be/HdTX6RdI1zc?si=ZaMdow2aln6zZWZY&t=59
It's unbelievable the command he has over the instrument. That bit sounds almost dreadful. In a good way. Compare it to any other version.

Third time's the charm.

:-D

What are some good Chopin pieces to listen to while having sex?

>>128081437
Cello sonata

>>128081437
Raindrop Prelude, thrust with the beat

James Tenney

>>128081437
Sonata No. 2

I've heard and digested the 1st and the 5th and have listened through the 4th. So far my favourite movements are 5.1+2, 1.3+4, and 4.1. The second half of 4 felt way too cheery for my tastes, I like drama and hysterics. Which symphonies do I go for next?

>>128081437
I don't know about Chopin, but I've fucked to Korsakov's Scheherazade, shit's dope

>>128081943
The 8th is his best.

>>128081943
6th obviously. Then 9th, then rest.

>>128081943
Just go in order from that point imo. 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

>>128082099
He'll quit before he can digest the 3rd. I still can't.

>>128080916
chopin is boring ;/

>>128081437
Lemon Incest aka Étude Op. 10, No. 3, unironically

>>128082731
>Lemon Incest
What??

https://youtu.be/2F843eLg07c
Please acknowledge Villa-Lobos please.

>>128081437
>listening to chopin
>having sex

that is reserved to Scriabin chads only, sorry
in that case, poem of ecstasy and 10th sonata

>>128082772
mm okay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mljkIfLGhCU&list=OLAK5uy_la2MeOSa2-HFEDd0IMr7Pj9tT8tR2Kg7E&index=5

>>128082802
Based Scriabin chad, the middle sensuous works are also great for kissing and feeling up a bitch as well

>"Anyone who knows how difficult it is to play harmonic modulations and good counterpoint on the lute will be surprised and full of disbelief to hear from eyewitnesses that Weiss, the great lutenist, challenged J.S. Bach, the great harpsichordist and organist, at playing fantasies and fugues."

>*blachs your path*
>nuthin personnel

Was there a more chad composer in existent?

>Today I will remind them

BAB
A
B

>DAILY REMINDER
>DAILY REMINDER

IAA
A
A

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>average BABIAA listener

We will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin Nocturne

We are the Mockers of Mozart
We put a chokehold on classicism

We are the Cuckolders of Chopin
We are the Rapists of Romantics

We are the murderers of Mahler
We strike fear in every pretentious and neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies

>Listening to Bach
>not listening to Mozart
>Listening to Marais
>Not listening to Haydn
>Listening to Ravel
>not listening to Mahler
>listening to Stravinsky
>not listening to Schoenberg or Shostakovich

Is there a better feeling in this world?

>Your Romanticism
>My Foot
>Your Classicism
>My Fist

I will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin

>Bach
>Machaut
>Ives
>Marais
>Buxtehude
>Stravinsky
>Reich
>Bartok

No Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No Mahler
No Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul

Mozart gives me the ick,

As does Brahms, Mahler, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and Prokofiev

That is all

>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court
>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School
>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms
>No Perotin or Medieval Music

>If it ain't BAROQUE, don't fix it
>I dumped her because she BAROQUED my heart
>I had to go to the doctor because I BAROQUED my leg in a gondola accident
>I would go to the concerto with you, but I'm BAROQUE
>The Baroque BAROQUED the renaissance mold

Remember not all Romantics are bad but all bad composers do tend be Romantic, except for Classical, all Classical composers are shit
Below is a list of acceptable Romantics:

Field
Chabrier
Franck
Tarrega
Wagner*
Any of the Russian 5
Grieg
Alkan
Late Beethoven

NO MOZART
NO CHOPIN
NO MAHLER
ALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!

ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIE
THIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!

SONATA FORM SHOULD DIE
ONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!

HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEAT
WHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITE


BACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER

I kneel

Chopin complete Etudes best recording?

How did he do it bros? How come organ sounds like complete fucking shit after Bach only for this Flemish saint to bring it back from the dead?

And why does it sound so awful after him aside from Vierne, Jongen, Durufle, and a handful of Messiaen pieces where he isn't spazzing out like a modernist autist?

>>128083869
2nd best Chopin Nocturnes recording

>>128083894
?

What does /classical/ think of recordings by the Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra? I have a bunch of CD rips here.

https://gofile.io/d/ikSkH0

>>128083869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVVMjLWjks

Liszt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IimY_LP8VYY&list=OLAK5uy_npRU6ykx5j7UglQH5c8N_4knOX3cuZkEY&index=2

>Among his piano roll recordings is a performance of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 12; he annotated this recording to suggest that it was how he had heard Liszt play it.

cool

>>128083930
anything from the 60s or later?

>>128084437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVsQ2nKBpc
or just get the samson set i guess

>>128083877
What about Bruckner's organ music?

>>128080852 (OP)
Gesang der Junglinge or Kontakte, /classical/?

>>128084569
i like Cziffra's Liszt, didn't know he did Chopin's etudes

>>128084331
Which Liszt student is that?

>>128083869
>>128084437

There are hundreds of recordings of them, many many good ones. Anyway, if you like fast, Yunchan Lim; if you like slow, Jan Lisiecki; and if you want middleground, Pollini, Ashkenazy, or Perahia. Take your pick, and enjoy!

>>128085192
>The pianist who recorded a performance of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 12 and claimed it was how he had heard Liszt play it was Bernhard Stavenhagen, a Wikipedia article states. He was Liszt's last pupil, and this piano roll recording from 1905, which is preserved as a valuable historical document, included an inscription suggesting it was performed "as played by Liszt," according to MusicWeb International and a YouTube video.

Actually, forget Mozart, I'm gonna go through my Chopin obsession phase.

>>128083877
>Flemish saint
Cesar Franck is wallon, don't ever call him flemish you pillock

>>128083877
I like most of the French Notre Dame school following Franck.

Damn, the Pichon hype is actually deserved unlike most critical fixations. One of the best Vespers recordings I've heard.

>>128086865
That's what I've been sayin'! Glad you liked it. Now to check out the rest of his wonderful "third way" style recordings.

now playing

start of Chopin: Nocturnes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3b8xtQKYiY&list=OLAK5uy_l28sAu2WSXQH6xxfn31xCP2ov5LXaZwuA&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l28sAu2WSXQH6xxfn31xCP2ov5LXaZwuA

>A graceful and charismatic performer, Fliter is known for her effortless technique and thoughtful, sensitive music-making; every performance is deeply personal and full of freshness and poetry, perfect for exploring Chopin's masterful Nocturnes. Chopin composed his Nocturnes throughout his creative life and succeeded in both elevating and popularizing the form. His inspirational and original style, evident from even his early works, grew and matured to create an epic collection of gorgeously melodic piano music. Fliter included a tantalizing taster of this new album on her Preludes recording, adding Nocturnes Op. 9 No. 3 and Op. 27 No. 2 to round off the performance, which had several critics hungry for more. Her Preludes album was named 'Recording of the Month' by Gramophone, which also named it among the top 10 Chopin performances ever recorded. On this new recital Fliter delights us with characteristically insightful interpretations of which showcase both the sensitivity of her playing and the poetry of the composer's music.

This is one of those mixed order recordings of the Nocturnes -- most go chronologically, but that can sometimes result in the pieces becoming a bit contextually stale, so by mixing it up, you can get the pieces heard in new and fresh ways. The main benefit is the usual opening, No. 1 in B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1, is a bit tired, but again, placed in a different spot, it gains a new source of life. That's the idea, anyway. I certainly was glad not to hear it immediately when I pressed play.

thoughts on Stephen Hough's recording of the Chopin Nocturnes?
i think they are probably the best modern recording.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxV6VwFCe969zVpmG7aftc9Xyg7qw0JSQ&si=ryUZNq5HxG1g8KcX

>>128087307
>>128087305
sp00ky

>i think they are probably the best modern recording.
It's certainly up there. Hough is always, always worth listening to. If I were stranded on a desert island and his was the only recording of the Nocturnes I had, I certainly wouldn't be upset.

>>128087313
yeah i saw that post show up as i was typing my post, i thought it was weird as well.
but yeah, everything i've heard from Hough has been very good, i think favorite Nocturnes are still Arrau, but these are great.

Definitely one of the best recordings of the first two movements of this symphony. I'd say my favorite final movement is still Szell's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pvcpPbmyvw

>>128082802
Based.

buncha' cheap bastards removing Szeryng's set of Bach's Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin from YouTube Music. I mean I downloaded it, but still, it's weird

>>128087484
It's pretty great, yeah. I'll admit though, I'm such a sucker for the 8th, that any performance of it at minimum sounds good to me

>>128083869
Juana Zayas according to Jed Distler.

>>128083869
i like
<----

>>128083869
Backhaus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbmRyn4KTGw
First complete set recorded

has anyone heard any of Kaija Saariaho's music?

>In a 2019 composers' poll by BBC Music Magazine, Saariaho was ranked the greatest living composer.[2]
>Saariaho studied composition in Helsinki, Freiburg, and Paris, where she also lived since 1982. Her research at the Institute for Research and Coordination in Acoustics/Music (IRCAM) marked a turning point in her music away from strict serialism towards spectralism. Her characteristically rich, polyphonic textures are often created by combining live music and electronics.

I'm gonna go against my normal dispositions and try out Berglund's final Sibelius cycle with the Chamber Orchestra of Europe. Usually when I see "slimmed-down performance" and "chamber orchestra" I run for the hills, but I'm why not, and it is Berglund's final word, a legendary Sibelius conductor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGt5u0mh2Ag&list=OLAK5uy_mOQZAjlPdnwtnwwMc8fE8B5lxGt0p4GVY&index=15

Old man who has lost his touch and mind, or the mature accumulated wisdom and developed skill of age? We shall see.

>>128087629
>gooner classical

>>128087768
hey if it's good it's good

>>128087768
By that logic, is this also gooner classical, but for gay men?

>>128081437
>>128082802
Do you guys listen to classical music dick in hand or something, why are you so obsessed with how sexy the music is

>>128087814
Yeah I'd turn into an animal to avoid sex with a Rachmanimoff listener too

>>128087744
This... is actually sounding pretty good so far. Great, even. You were right >>128075239, instead of an atmospheric soundscape, the actual voices and melodies are emphasized.

>>128087871
must've been an arthoe pajeet. nicce

>>128087940
Do Indians like Rautavaara?

>>128087946
My mistake, I thought your post was referring to Sorabji, whoops. Is Rautavaara good?

>>128087965
He has his qualities. I'm fond of his harp concerto.
https://youtu.be/JPYGRfzfBew

>>128087965
His piano concerto makes very nice use of cluster chords.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFIGoB7rK70

>>128077711
>Wish a recording existed that had the lean forces and clarity of this one but without the weak, anemic Norrington-like HIP string sound. Oh, well. Nice vocal conducting and I enjoy the unusually bright and sweet tone of the female soloist.

lol yeah that's why whenever I listen to recordings by choral gurus, I have to make a mental note not to take their orchestral side too seriously. Sometimes I imagine they're singing over a recorded orchestral track kek.

Anyway, there are some. Kegel's recording of the German Requiem, for example.

let's get HIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PYaiOqnXkw&list=OLAK5uy_ndHFept9Tu-wvwS4P0W0_iSFk-UtTlZC8&index=1

>>128088142
kek

So difficult to find good recordings of Schumann's solo piano music, and they only ever include one or two pieces max, so you have to go looking for more anyway, and almost none of the complete sets are very good. Annoying. Else I'd listen to it more tbqh

What do you guys think of this Bruckner 7?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TgOzwqFCc

Honestly pretty sad that szell never did a full cycle, I think all of his Bruckner recordings are solid at worst

>>128087807
>listen to classical music dick in hand
I mean, that's the only authentic way to listen to Scriabin.

>>128088352
Glorious of course, if a little lightweight.

hip strings sound like synths

It's funny to see so many of the regulars here go through different phases except for the Telemann and Rach/Chopin anons, their love remains eternal.

>>128088691
>Rach/Chopin
I have different phases too anon, I don't listen to Chopin all the time. I'm having Beethoven and Bruckner phases recently

>>128088834
>I'm having Beethoven and Bruckner phases recently
hopefully finally an ally in the quest for the best beethoven piano sonatas cycles

Les Troyens

now playing

start of JS Bach: Die Kunst der Fuge, BWV 1080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpynr0s_6Sk&list=OLAK5uy_lVW2Wop1-PNb8_X6BLNyKkn1LWtTq6Gho&index=2

start of JS Bach: 6 Partitas, No. 2 in C Minor, BWV 826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbGZa-6lBH4&list=OLAK5uy_lVW2Wop1-PNb8_X6BLNyKkn1LWtTq6Gho&index=21

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lVW2Wop1-PNb8_X6BLNyKkn1LWtTq6Gho

>>128088843
I'm not as hardcore as you, but I'll do my best :S

If I were a pianist, I would dream to become Sokolov, but in real life I'd actually be Schiff

>>128088859
<3

Obviously do whatever you like, but the easiest way is to adapt the 1:1 approach -- for every familiar recording you listen to, next time listen to a new one. Works for me.

>>128086496
>Lisecki
pfff ahaha

>>128088967
>pic related: me tossing your post into the air like the detritus it is

>>128088988
what a gay post no wonder you like lisecki

Scriabis Diner

>>128089047
Explain the joke.

Bach is my GOAT

Bruckner is my HORSE

E flat minor

Andante spianato et grande polonaise brilliante in Eb major op. 22

>>128088691
>except for the Telemann
But I'm currently going through a big late Baroque phase in general, anon. Telemann is my primary focus but before that I was in the middle of my third or fourth repeat of Scarlatti's 555 keyboard sonatas. I've also been listening to Vivaldi, Zelenka, and Handel a lot recently.

>>128088988
You sure are a 'tosser', huh?

>>128089145
>Scarlatti's 555 keyboard sonatas
How do you suffer through all that, multiple times

>>128089246
No one one his death bed has ever wished he’d listen to more Scarlatti keyboard spnatas

kinda cool, Janowski came out with a Dvorak Stabat Mater recording this year, and I'm in a choral mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e87TbdRw5ZA&list=OLAK5uy_kCje5ZkKWtSil1wwCt_tHjwXkeA6E-91s&index=1

>The Dresdner Philharmonie and Marek Janowski present a recording of Antonin Dvorak's Stabat Mater, together with the MDR Leipzig Radio Choir, Hanna-Elisabeth Muller (soprano), Roxana Constantinescu (mezzo-soprano), Christian Elsner (tenor) and Tareq Nazmi (bass).

>In terms of scope and duration, Dvorak's Stabat Mater is the largest setting of this sacred text to date. Likely inspired by the tragic death of all his three children - in the timespan of just two years - the work is heartrending, yet establishes a gradual path from darkness to light, from despair to peace and hope; ascetic and restrained, yet full of suspense.

>This recording, made in connection to a live performance commemorating the bombing of Dresden, offers a rendition that never drags, avoids excessive sentimentality, and is all the more moving as a result. Marek Janowski is one of the most celebrated conductors of our time and has a vast PENTATONE discography, chiefly consisting of German operas and symphonic works.

>>128089246
That's a loaded question.

>>128089145
>But I'm currently going through a big late Baroque phase in general, anon. Telemann is my primary focus but before that I was in the middle of my third or fourth repeat of Scarlatti's 555 keyboard sonatas. I've also been listening to Vivaldi, Zelenka, and Handel a lot recently.

Not to be rude but isn't all that the same phase? Or is Telemann not 'late Baroque'?

>>128089339
If we're going to make a distinction between Chopin/Rach and Beethoven/Bruckner phases, then we might as well make a distinction between Baroque composers. They're quite different.

>>128089358
Hmm, touche, well said.

>>128089335
Just answer the damn question.

>>128089374
Chill, obviously they like it, or at least most of it.

>>128089374
I don't suffer through it. If it wasn't already abundantly clear, I'm autistic as fuck and a kind of completionist, which means I like to go through entire opuses and stuff systematically. I also like to search for different performances/recordings. Combine all of that with a love of keyboard music and Scarlatti having 555 sonatas is like a wet dream.

>>128089421
based

now playing

start of Chopin: Mazurkas (selected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs4qtfkzKlk&list=OLAK5uy_lT4Mt0H_OE1TL9sYK2l-bxO13AkmV8bCA&index=2

Chopin: Prélude in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 45: Sostenuto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nIOjWbCVhQ&list=OLAK5uy_lT4Mt0H_OE1TL9sYK2l-bxO13AkmV8bCA&index=12

Chopin: Ballade No. 1 in G Minor, Op. 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mghfm9Kjx5Y&list=OLAK5uy_lT4Mt0H_OE1TL9sYK2l-bxO13AkmV8bCA&index=13

Chopin: Scherzo No. 2 in B-Flat Minor, Op. 31: Presto - Sostenuto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0FynZgSOSE&list=OLAK5uy_lT4Mt0H_OE1TL9sYK2l-bxO13AkmV8bCA&index=13

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lT4Mt0H_OE1TL9sYK2l-bxO13AkmV8bCA

>>128089452
Not based, not based at all

>>128089529
This reminds me of one time when someone was asking everyone's favorite recordings for Beethoven's late string quartets, which actually garnered a surprising amount of replies, and one anon goes, "I actually have a different one for each" and I replied, "holy based" because I think that level of acute specificity in taste is kinda cool even if I don't feel the same, and the sisterposter replies, "no, not based," that it didn't make sense at all and was in fact silly to have different favorites like that. Still makes me laugh when I think about it.

>>128083680
>>128083693
>>128083660
>>128083605
>>128083593
>>128083567
>>128083550
>>128083527
>>128083509
>>128083496
>t.

https://youtu.be/TqmFYe32kWM?t=56

>>128089578
I do imagine the average gigachad poster who claims to like Bach to look like this and say this

what do we think of Arrau's performance of Chopin's 4th Ballade?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8CBAj6sUo

>>128089705
Decent. Bit too slow. I like how he pays attention to inner voices, not always, but he's attentive. And his rubato is not bad.
One of the better ones, I like his 3rd more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4vtD8pAz4&list=OLAK5uy_nMurUBks8BDcfHZM0_qPVRi3aNHIMITiA&index=3
And his Scherzos are likewise good. I think he was too old here, it's why he's slacking, but still a master.

continuing the Tchaikovsky cycle by the conductor whose name you cannot say on 4chan

start of Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 36, TH.27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsBuUygMHGs&list=OLAK5uy_n1T4LsTjr-pKykHWNTpmH0LmMz-H5_Qk8&index=15

start of Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 5 in E Minor, Op. 64, TH.29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HvBtnZmVEw&list=OLAK5uy_n1T4LsTjr-pKykHWNTpmH0LmMz-H5_Qk8&index=18

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n1T4LsTjr-pKykHWNTpmH0LmMz-H5_Qk8

I've been enjoying the performances of the symphonies so far, the sound is fresh for works which are almost always performed in roughly the same way, though I'm not putting it over any of my other favorite cycles quite yet, we'll see with these last four symphonies. And I'm really looking forward to the piano concertos with Kirill Gerstein, whom you might know from his wonderful Liszt Transcendental Etudes or Busoni Piano Concerto recordings.

>>128089705
https://youtu.be/uV72ErJS_J4?list=RDuV72ErJS_J4&t=2838
live ones are way better

>>128089911
thank you

>>128089931
:o

>>128087807
Because unlike you tranime fag, we actually get laid here, and if we don't we see volcels like Brahms. Women also comprise a lot of classical players as well, so it helps you have sensuous music they like

I will give you "all new recording suck" anons one thing, the old masters performing Bach's Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin seem to possess some depth of soul that you don't hear with the newer most popular performers of the work, no matter how technically impeccable or gorgeous the sonority.

>>128090077
I can hardly believe that a person who posts on 4chan would get laid. Regardless, I believe having a lifelong partner is a more impressive feat than hedonistic acting upon lust.

Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVWAhRFyoS0

>>128090182
Top5 sets of Mozart's late symphonies?

>>128090182
Rofl
>>128090077
Rofl

>>128089529
Because? You can only dream of such autism?

>>128090210
Dresden/Suitner must be included.

>>128090077
>sensuous music they like
I went to conservatory for undergrad and grad - no one there uses classical as mood music. Which raises the question, what demographic do you think actually wants to get laid to classical?

next time I get laid I'mma make sure to have Brahms' Liebeslieder Walzer Op. 52 playing in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3O-OaMMtHg

oooo yea

Kavakos' Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZATtpjsFg&list=OLAK5uy_mb2b1XhlPQMoX3xLuurzQ24AtzhrrpVk8&index=8

>>128090210
>>128090265
These days it really depends on multiple factors and my opinions change all the time on that. Sometimes I'm listening a lot to Suitner's Mozart, sometimes Bohm, sometimes Szell's, sometimes Fritz Reiner, etc. To put them all in a top 5 would be extremely difficult and I'd probably change my opinion after a week anyways. Mozart tend to just be solid no matter who you give it to, even when completely bastardized, the beauty often shines through.

I can definitely give my favorite cycle for recommending to beginners to classical music: Muti's.

>>128090104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79RCCBUveCY&list=OLAK5uy_kz-Byezf_fde8jjBPJVOqMV2Pp8ikNskw&index=2

pure sovl

>>128080852 (OP)
More like StockHACKsen

>>128090265
It was a bomb

bored so made another chart, my top 5 essential (and favorite, in this case) sets for Bach's Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin

note: possibly could switch out Ehnes' set for his newer, second one, but as it stands, his first one is the one I'd rank higher. I need to do a direct comparison of them soon

and don't give me a
>wtf no Grumiaux???
yes, Grumiaux is a legend, and his set is no doubt essential to try, but for my ears it's so severe, too harsh. if you wanna call me a pansy because it's too masculine, then fine, I get that. it's my chart tho

anyway, give them a listen! once again, some of the greatest achievements in the history of music, everyone ought to not only be deeply familiar with them, but with a variety of interpretations and sets from great musicians

>>128090472
>no Heifetz

>>128090509
I like him for the violin concertos. haven't actually heard him for the solo pieces though. Should I get around to that? Shumsky's was gonna be the next old-school set on my list (I usually stick to listening to modern sets for these works outside of Milstein and Szeryng), but maybe I should bump Heifetz above

>>128090509
>>128090548
is his for the solo violin pieces that good? i mean it's Heifetz so yeah, but you know what i mean

>>128090548
you tell me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE30zdctFkg

now playing

start of Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 in A Major, Op. 92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhqi5qDvfWY&list=OLAK5uy_kaqFqUByp_CNFNtepboUe6DTxa0p0yztI&index=27

start of Beethoven: Symphony No. 8 in F Major, Op. 93
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjoKmW8CHKU&list=OLAK5uy_kaqFqUByp_CNFNtepboUe6DTxa0p0yztI&index=31

start of Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 in D Minor, Op. 125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6H9bMONCJA&list=OLAK5uy_kaqFqUByp_CNFNtepboUe6DTxa0p0yztI&index=34

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kaqFqUByp_CNFNtepboUe6DTxa0p0yztI

I've started to come around on this cycle more and more as I continue to prefer and enjoy faster tempos for my Beethoven. Not quite to where I'd say this cycle is outright better than Blomstedt's older and stellar one with the Staatsapelle Dresden, but I'd be open to the opinion. I don't know, I've always been a staunch defender of the slow, heavy, traditional approach, and overall I still am, but lately, listening to some of the cycles in that mold, I've started to find the slow tempos aggravating, that it diminishes the effect and quality of the music. So this one I've liked more, and probably Chailly's soon too. Time to revisit some other faster ones I dismissed in the past. Anyway...

>>128090612
I only listened to a little bit so I don't spoil it in case I wanna listen to the whole thing, but yeah, pretty good, I'll check out some of it later today or tomorrow. You prefer that set over the other classic sets by Milstein, Szeryng, Grumiaux, Shumsky, Szigeti, etc.? Or you just think it's as good? If it's the latter, well, lines have to get drawn somewhere, y'know? Can't have every good, even great set included in one's favorites, ya feel?

>tfw no chopin, liszt, or rachmaninoff string quartets
:(

Fuck Schubert

Browsing through the reviews on The Strad, looking for new recordings to try, when I saw these, a neat series containing piano trios from some lesser known Russian composers (sans Rachmaninoff, obviously). I'm not familiar with any of these four names, anyone else? Looks like it could be fun to try.

Sample from the Aloiz & Winkler release, I assume this is from Aloiz's piano trio,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjddI55Et20&list=OLAK5uy_m7tujYxQmgOsZEvdcDEzSDWxUmbRabWiQ&index=1

>>128090182
>Regardless, I believe having a lifelong partner is a more impressive feat than hedonistic acting upon lust.
This.
And I'm agreeing as a gay man. We're even less and more miserable. Sex havers are the real degens.

>>128090930
>General has chuds, gays, Christians, satanists, jews, muslims, lesbians and transgenders
Classical truly brings everyone together

>>128090762
Hard to write string quartets when you're only good at writing for one instrument, and even that's iffy.

>>128090762
Rachmaninov actually does have two string quartets, but they we're unfinished, he also has a Cello Sonata and two Piano Trios.

>>128090762
>>128091126
Rach has string quartets, and they're beautiful. They're just unfinished. And Rach definitely knew how to write for more than one instrument, his orchestration was really good. Liszt is at least decent.

>>128091260
>>128091266
what the fuck

>>128091272
What?

>>128091287
you

>>128091308
*blushes* m-m-me?

>>128091314
this is getting kind of uhh *blushes* *squirts cum out of duck*

>a whole genre of covers

There's still instruments and players in the current world!

>"no we cannot understand anything new"

>>128091327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YnsbmSGHJs

Currently listening to the Chopin Competition, wish me luck

mozart is boring
bach is way better

>>128090359
sounds bad to me

>>128090288
>tranime fag
>being an undergrad, let alone leaving house for anything

>>128091314
>>128091327
Anime larpers should be sent to the gulag

>>128090472
What's the best cycle on a baroque violin?

What's the weirdest Chopin nocturne? Op. 37, No. 2? I've heard it described as a miniature ballade, barcarolle, etude, etc.

>>128092431
Mullova. Shit, hers might be worth including.

>>128093084
Hard to say. Op.48 no.1 is usually the one described as the "mini ballade" or the fifth ballade, but it's not "weird". Mazurkas are mostly weird, not in a bad way though

>>128080911
Tierkreis is about as soft an intro as you're going to get. If you like tape music then Gesang der Junglinge is the obvious choice. Personally I like Der Jahreslauf the best.

>>128081943
6, 7, 9, 10 (Barshai is the best "completion", although the first movement is sufficient on its own).

>>128087699
Yes, Noa Noa is a nice introduction.

>>128092021
are you saying you believe that this post >>128091327 is genuine RP and not ironic in anyway?

>>128092021
>>128093992
I liked >>128091327
It was kinda cute:3

One thing that popular music does better than classical is the amount of variety in vocal styles and the context in which they are used. For example I want to listen to something with peaceful, almost quiet singing, not over the top screaming with maximum vibrato. But I also want it to be classical e.i. with expressive&classical accompaniment(piano, strings, whatever), refined harmony, development, thorough composed or in classical forms that usually aren't employed for singing (such as sonata, rondo).
So I want lieder, but more elaborate, with more variety of singing techniques (quiet, almost whispering) and expressiveness. But still in art music tradition. I guess someone will just tell me to listen to some prog slop, and that's kinda fair...is it?

>>128090680
I like him as much as Milstein, and more than everyone else. I'd personally remove Ehnes in favor of Heifetz in that image if I could choose (Ehnes is good, I just think the rest is better).

>>128094222
No I definitely see where you're coming from. Sometimes I wonder what e.g. a Stan Rogers Winterreise would have sounded like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9-ZGfidpow

>>128094222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2cBUJmDr8

>>128094285
I was thinking of Kate Bush for some reason when I wrote that comment, and I never really listened to her much
>>128094363
I like pierrot lunaire. But not exactly what I'm looking for lol

>>128081943
Don't like his 1, 4, 5 so take it with a grain of salt, but try 8, 2, 7.

>>128091105
Anonymous imageboards self-select for asocial and antisocial people, it trumps other preferences. It's also not really possible to build a reputation here, so these labels are kinda meaningless.

bruckner 8 >>>

>>128095327
For me, it's the adagio from 7th. If I had to choose to listen to one last piece I would probably choose that.

>>128095175
>It's also not really possible to build a reputation here
One of the best things about this hellhole ngl.

>>128093992
>>128094023
No, that fact that it's ironic is even worse.

>>128090762
Rachmaninoff sounds okay, he wasn't bad with string work and if the cello sonata is any indication, it would be quite an enjoyable listen. Liszt and Chopin not so much

>>128095478
Calm your tits

>>128095327
It's too good, really, like the sirens' call.

Is Richter's Bach WTC the comfiest classical recording in existence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEO_JjcRUCs&list=OLAK5uy_kS4zh1-semo1JK4Gz6er6yM5zamTuBcVA&index=33

Surely this is what God listens to on the daily.

looked for a different recording of Rach's piano concertos to try, didn't know V. Petrenko had a complete set, now playing

start of Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIF5udx5Sw&list=OLAK5uy_nI7yqfronW_ysCktk0JTdqNyiJ2u-xgMo&index=2

start of Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 3 in D Minor, Op. 30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdM8eHZTk1U&list=OLAK5uy_nI7yqfronW_ysCktk0JTdqNyiJ2u-xgMo&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nI7yqfronW_ysCktk0JTdqNyiJ2u-xgMo

If it ends up sucking, which I doubt, I'll go back to the safe ground of Ashkenazy/Previn.

>(5 stars) Profound and communicative...Petrenko instinctively conveys the essential quality of soul that the interpretation of Rachmaninoff requires. -- Daily Telegraph (Classical CD of the Week), (Geoffrey Norris), February 20, 2010

high praise

>(5 stars) Vasily Petrenko's nose for atmosphere even excels that of Neeme Järvi...a master of expressive phrasing. -- BBC Music Magazine (Disc of the Month), (David Nice), March 2010

kek 'nose for atmosphere' huh? we'll see. I do love me some Vasily Petrenko though.

Franck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86hjKhFhQYc&list=OLAK5uy_kjJRaCJGo44tyH12adOOUccacL91aEvng&index=8

post your playlists

>>128097836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW8OtgOOEAc&list=PLSt949bcodlg0D8MgDrLsF4db1XBCjcMh

>>128097836
...playlist? I select and listen to each recording album individually.

>>128081437
scherzo no.2

>>128095554
I have pecs sister, but nice try

Favorite recording(s) of Schubert's 6 Moments Musicaux D. 780 and 4 Impromptus, D. 899 & D. 935? Listening to and enjoying Kempff's right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0AG_GyUTA&list=OLAK5uy_lMMwQ4sNmIWIdnzfIkbXmYAceQPHaE4rw&index=6

What are we playing tonight?

>>128098885
already did my practicing for the day but I played some Schumann Bach and Brahms

>>128097625
what is even the point of listening to anything other than Rach's own recordings or Ashkenazy/Previn?

>>128097836
here you go *spreads asshole*

>>128098732
what is a "pecs sister"?

>>128100878
Rach's own recordings are great, Ashkenazt/Previn isn't *that" good. It would make sense if you paired Rach with Horowitz/Reiner for old school.
Hough/Litton, Simon/Slatkin, Kocsis/Waart are also good and worth listening, especially Hough/Litton, probably best among any full set except Rach's own.

>>128100911
i like all of those, but i always end up coming back to Ashkenazy/Previn for some reason, it just works for me.

>>128098758
I've always found them to be rather long-winded. Too much repetition, not enough variation.

>>128097836
What's that?

Scriabin's 8th (∞) isn't music, it's an organism that woke up and realize it's God. It begins before time, in a shimmering swamp of harmonies. The form eats itself ... introduction becomes coda becomes fetus becomes fossil ... each repetition a prayer whispered by a dying sun. Themes rise and fall like nervous systems learning how to dream. Gasps for air, melts into ecstasy, pure geometry: ∞ turning in on itself. Bergson's ghost is in the corner counting to seven and Scriabin's laughing because the harmony just achieved sentience. Time stops, folds, vibrates, restarts as a hallucination of symmetry. You're hearing the architecture of eternity.

Scriabin's 8th (∞) isn't music, it's an organism that woke up and realized it's God. It begins before time, in a shimmering swamp of harmonies. The form eats itself ... introduction becomes coda becomes fetus becomes fossil ... each repetition a prayer whispered by a dying sun. Themes rise and fall like nervous systems learning how to dream. Gasps for air, melts into ecstasy, pure geometry: ∞ turning in on itself. Bergson's ghost is in the corner counting to seven and Scriabin's laughing because the harmony just achieved sentience. Time stops, folds, vibrates, restarts as a hallucination of symmetry. You're hearing the architecture of eternity.

>>128101089
Crazy place, Scriabi's Diner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDO5byAtk8U

Did suitner need to take a shit when he got to the adagio? It's played more allegretto than adagio, I like the recording otherwise but jeez

>>128100911
what is your favorite Rach symphony cycle? i'm liking the Jansons one recently

Chœur de gnomes et de sylphes

>>128101115
>Scriabi's Diner
peak ESL humor

>>128101333
>peak ESL humor
peak ESL humor

>>128101333
Hah...! You think you are supposed to "understand", whelp? Grope about in the fryer of Being all you like, hylic: you will find nothing but the hash browns diced up out of your own root vegetable of a brain. Better hurry up! Lord Scriabin has finished his coffee and you best believe the Mad God gets free refills, or else it'll be you who boils!

>>128101366
>no u
lmfao

>>128101394
>lmfao
peak ESL humor

>>128101262
NTA but that one is very good

>>128101476
>NTA but that one is very good
thanks, i actually made it

>>128101089
Well said, my fellow mystic.

>>128101483
ur Mariss Jansons (RIP)? Big fan!

I am lost in the dream of a madman, pacing the warped hallways of the Palace of Black Gnosis... the screams of a schizophrenic greet me in the hall and a black mass is being conducted in the chapel where people are committing adultery... this is just what happens when you hear the Chord of the Pleroma...

Yess... hehehe wild things happen with a raised fourth and a flat seventh all in one chord... the human ear wasn't quite meant to hear such fucked up supernatural things eh? life is a kind of psychedelic pain out here at the fin de siècle... we out here with neurasthenia and synesthesia... smelling salts and infected pimples... do you think you're k-k-krazy enough to handle it?? Things are getting pretty Mysteriovs out here so I wouldn't blame you if you tapped out...

Whoa... did you catch the name of that one? Prometheus baby... this is a Poeme de feu!! looks like we're goin for a second round with the gods yeah... we out in Tibet and there's like monks and art scrolls and Buddhism here and we gonna wake up that ancient Aryan wisdom... do you feel your vril rising up bro? YOu'll be seeing ultraviolet light bro!! HYPERBOREANS used to listen to this scale bro!! DO YOU FEEL IT BRO?? Btw could i interest you in the works of Richard Wagner they're very influential to me

>>128101406
ESL seethe

>>128100878
If you care, the recording ended up being a winner, and I suspect I'll be listening to (and perhaps posting) their recording of the 1st and 4th piano concertos as well soon.

KNEEL

>>128101262
Previn

has there ever been a good composer biopic?

>>128100911
Seems like you have a preference for clarity over lush textures and cascading textures.

>>128100911
Seems like you have a preference for clarity over robust textures and lush sonorities.

i saw that

>>128102111
I have preference for expressiveness, rubato.

>>128102153
sign this NDA would you

>>128102192
o

>>128101714
Who the fuck is this nepo baby and why does he look 10?

>>128083877
>Flemish saint
why are you lying and say that César Franck was Flemish?

>>128102443
the king of /classical/

feels like a Mahler 3 morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlPiyS1JwrY&list=OLAK5uy_lAdIJUJNTfMlWE7JAy-oZnu3CoWEHQPjs&index=1

>Finnish conductor Esa-Pekka Salonen is one of the few indisputably great masters of his trade. Thank God he's young and healthy, with a long career in front of him. He is currently presiding over what I have no doubt will later be regarded as a sort of "golden age" in Los Angeles. The orchestra has never sounded better--in fact, the playing on this disc is so staggeringly fine that you're simply not conscious of it at all. Salonen's interpretation is equally persuasive. It's so natural that it actually makes the work--the longest symphony in the repertoire--seem short. Because he makes everything sound so easy, he has been criticized for a certain emotional coolness. Humbug! Check out the end of the first movement for the most exciting and passionate five minutes of music you're ever likely to hear. Greatness, folks, pure and simple. -- David Hurwitz

feels like a Mahler 3 morning
https://files.catbox.moe/3fl4pk.flac

>>128103071
What a strange cover. Looks like some toilet cleaner or laundry detergent brand logo

>>128103080
It's a deliberate... aesthetic. Hey at least they're trying for some consistency, even if it looks like it was either randomly generated or teased and tugged and slightly shifted from something randomly generated, lol.

>>128103102
That yellow thing, it doesn't line up with the red and white thinfs perfectly, you can see it stick out of the red one near the bottom.
Somebody did a sloppy job with paint. Is it at least good?

>>128103123
Very. Honeck is one of the most talented conductors working today. For Mahler, the 3rd and 1st are first-rate, the 5th and 4th are 'only' good. For Bruckner, his 9th and 4th and 7th are all first-rate as well. And he's got some other stuff that's pretty good to pretty great (eg Beethoven, Dvorak, Strauss, Brahms), as well as interpretively forward-thinking (the Beethoven, particularly the 9th, and Brahms 4).

>>128103123
>That yellow thing, it doesn't line up with the red and white thinfs perfectly, you can see it stick out of the red one near the bottom.
And yeah, that's indicative of what I was talking about, that it looks like they started with some randomly generated image, and then used an image editor to tug, drag, stretch, and reshape the image. Cheap and rather aloof, but effective for what they're going for, and symptomatic of our technological, spiritually vacant age.

>>128103142
Ok will listen thanks.

>>128103180
Hope you enjoy :)

One community reviewer says it's the best 3rd since Chailly's, and I just might be inclined to agree.

>>128103189
How abou Litton's with Dallas symphony orchestra

>>128103213
I always forget about Litton's Mahler. His 2nd and 3rd are excellent, yeah, though it's been a while since I've heard them. Probably in the top-tier or close as well.

I don't understand how one can listen to Mahler's music and think anything but they're in the presence of genius. Even if one isn't personally a fan, even if the melodies and themes and overall construction don't resonate with them personally, which happens, they'd still have to be aware what they're hearing is the summit of musical creativity, it's surely undeniable.

>>128103319
>even if the melodies and themes and overall construction don't resonate with them personally
isn't that like the main thing at least in classical music where the composition is separate from the production
who are you to say that mahler is equal or superior to the absolute top tier all time great genius composers

>>128103375
>who are you to say that mahler is equal or superior to the absolute top tier all time great genius composers
The sheer scale, the compositional brilliance, the unique ideas, the emotional intensity. Like I said, even if one isn't personally a fan, the brilliance ought to be obvious to them, like Dante or Picasso or Bergman.

now playing

start of Prokofiev: Piano Sonata No. 7 in B-Flat Major, Op. 83
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYZfwk_3TnM&list=OLAK5uy_n_85X8mN22GC2XpOWPXL30VisUmr6yXvg&index=2

start of Prokofiev: Piano Sonata No. 8 in B-Flat Major, Op. 84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jWzt8xkIDY&list=OLAK5uy_n_85X8mN22GC2XpOWPXL30VisUmr6yXvg&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_85X8mN22GC2XpOWPXL30VisUmr6yXvg

>This disc poses a bit of a quandary. Yefim Bronfman's playing of the Seventh Sonata is so exciting that it's impossible not to recommend. Even as he is powering his way through the most difficult sections of the music (including the entire finale), Bronfman still plays with control and the kind of nuance few pianists could spare attention for. On the other hand, I don't feel he is as successful with the Eighth Sonata. Its enigmatic, mysterious first movement is always a problem, and I don't feel Bronfman completely succeeds in projecting its changes of mood. The other two movements are more convincing, but then the disc is over (47:42). But if you love that Seventh Sonata as I do. --Leslie Gerber

Hmm, hopefully Gerber is wrong here about the Eighth. Either way, still worth a try.

>>128103319
he was musically talented, no doubt about that, but he lacked good taste, and in the end, that is critical.

>>128101501
>Actually listen to Scriabin after reading this post
>It's just standard Romantic piano with a few jazzy chords thrown in

Huh?

>>128104157
Grope about in the fryer of Being all you like, hylic

I am in a mountainous world, where upon the beautiful slopes of the Himalayas, lions that can fly with their wings can be found. Whales, fish, and seals make their nests there. The lions make their lairs on the summit of the mountain. Proud and satisfied elephants are there, trumpeting like clouds. The roam around in that extensive place, surrounded by water everywhere. The summit is golden, with colorful trees, and seems to touch the sky.

As my skin glows blue with God-Realization, the call of the crazy elephants awakens me and I realize I was just listening to the start of Prométhée, le Poème du feu. I, a poor soul yet trapped in the illusion of "dualism", venerate Brahman for creating such beauty and allowing the unenlightened to experience it!

https://youtu.be/rHsM988bzuM

Scirabi No 10 with very bad hiss?

>>128100893
>what is autism and reading comprehension

>>128100893
PECS stands for Picture Exchange Communication System, an approach that uses pictures to teach individuals to communicate their needs and wants. It is a type of Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) often used with children and adults who have difficulty with verbal communication, particularly those with autism spectrum disorder.

>no bratty trans bachfag gf whom i have to educate until she appreciates Rach and Scriabin
Reality is such bitter poison

It's a shame that there's so many interpretations of Scriabis Sonatas but they're all just on piano. It's so boring. It'd be like if someone wrote a script for a film and dozens of different directors made films of it, but everytime the film was just one guy standing in front of black background reading the script aloud.

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>>128104682
where do you retards come from

>>128104746
Scriabi's Diner

>>128104711
why post CP??

>>128104818
What's the matter?

Was Wolfie Jr any good?

>>128104937
Anon was kicked out of Scriabi's Diner

>>128090762
I would erase the entirety of Wagner's works from existence in exchange for a hefty amount of Liszt chamber music. Trios, quartets, quintets, septets, sonatas; you name it.

>>128105000
Considering that Liszt transcribed everyone and everything for the piano, I'm surprised that his considerable piano ouvre hasn't been transcribed for larger forces.

>>128105033
I mean original pieces, though, not transcriptions. I mean he did transcribe a bunch of his works for chamber ensembles, but I would want original works for all sorts of combinations, from traditional string quartets to woodwind septets and whatnot, not to mention the humble sonata for [blank] and piano

>Giuseppe Francesco Gaspare Melchiorre Baldassare Sammartini
>Muzio Filippo Vincenzo Francesco Saverio Clementi
>Maria Luigi Carlo Zenobio Salvatore Cherubini
>Giacomo Antonio Domenico Michele Secondo Maria Puccini
>Ferruccio Dante Michelangiolo Benvenuto Busoni
Do Italians Really

>>128105169
>Atanasio Martin Ignacio Vicente Tadeo Francisco Pellegrin Martin y Soler & Manuel María de los Dolores Clemente Ramón del Sagrado Corazón de Jesús Falla y Matheu have joined the chat

>>128105169
lel

>>128090809
Marry Brahms, Kill schumann

Has anyone ever tried trasncribing Liszt's transcriptions of Beethovens symphonies to a symphony orchestra? I think they'd sound good like that

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>>128101166
maho more like my whore

>>128105702
I think that's what Hogwood did honestly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsIp_ZDqIs

>>128105702
I transcribed John Cage's 4'33'' for a large Mahlerian orchestra.

>>128087807
>Do you guys listen to classical music dick in hand or something
Do you not? What are you, impotent? A castrato? Or, god forbid, a woman?

I asked my music teacher if there was an easy way to tell the difference between Schubert and Schumann because I got confused a lot. He said they were different composers with different names. It's really helped.

>>128105785
>confusing the last great heir of the Viennese School of Classical Music with what amounts to little more than a rickety bridge connecting Mendelssohn and Brahms because their names start with the same three letters
You deserved the snarky reply.

>>128105828
>with what amounts to little more than a rickety bridge connecting Mendelssohn and Brahms
What a smug, troll take. Schumann was no less than any of his contemporaries. But yeah, I'm on a contrarian 4chins thread lel

>>128098758
Moments Arrau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY7Kdi5oWn0&list=OLAK5uy_mBkXBREJyXemrhmsFq5vn2WSvBzuK3ydc&index=5
Impromptus Yudina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8V964wP1Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZljFhNm9qU

>>128105846
>Schumann was no less than any of his contemporaries
He was a music critic because he realised he'd never be as good as the people around him.

>>128105828
You meant 4 letters of course?

>>128105846
>I'm on a contrarian 4chins thread lel
Have you considered leaving?

>>128105938
Nah, despite the cringe contrarianism, it can get fun and interesting here

>>128104817
I don't know what age she is in that picture but she's 40 now

Last for Wagner.
W.

>>128104711
>It's a shame that there's so many interpretations of Scriabis Sonatas but they're all just on piano
This reminds me. I'm planning on writing an arrangement of Scriabin's 8th for string quartet. I think it would work rather well.

>>128105914
of course

NEW THREAD BITCHES
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