Thread 128214998

its fucking over for the art form of music.

>>128214998 (OP)
>following the same path as AI text
so, it's garbage? i have yet to read an AI-generated short story or poem that was actually good. "indistinguishable from human-written" is meaningless in this context because most humans are also bad writers/musicians.

>>128215015
keep coping luddite fag

>akchuallly its shit

and its going to replace you

>>128215029
I'm well aware that AI will automate almost all white collar and professional workers. That does not mean the art it's currently producing is good. Passable as being written by a human? Sure. But that's not the same thing as good and it's misleading to claim otherwise.

You WILL listen to the AI music

>>128214998 (OP)
Given cRap/pop are the dominant genre, and most people too braindead to see trash like kendrick as anything other than the second coming of Jesus, I say more power to AI, once 100 different flavored tpabs are churned out daily, people won't dick ride that scum, or rap in general, anymore. As far as I'm concerned, music is already dead, nothing innovative anymore left. Maybe AI will one day take the lead in developing new art forms we didn't even think of yet.

Its over for chess, people will only want to watch AI play other AI

>>128215038
the business it's producing isn't good either. have you actually tried using an ai customer service chatbot? it's useless.

AI slop has only made me appreciate humanity more

AI media is for memes, porn, and stock images/sounds. The circlejerking hAIpebeasts who think that the average talking meatsuit's indifference to their air-filler music being generated or not is a sign of an AI art future are hyperextrapolating, at best.

>>128214998 (OP)
if you enjoy making music and don't necessarily care about gaining an audience, how well AI music imitates man-made music doesn't matter. even if you have aspirations for gaining an audience and/or commercial success, there will still be people who mainly/exclusively seek out man-made music. I really don't get the hysterics.

Can't wait for the AI audience doing AI critique on AI music

AI music will be immensely cheap to produce. The music industry will move away from actual musicians and hire sexy models who make noise on social media to mime to AI music.

It will start with big name artists using AI to write or tweak songs to make them more appealing to the masses.

Human art and creativity is over.

>>128216522
We already have essays written by AI then marks and fed back on by AI. Shit is fucked.

>>128214998 (OP)
I wish we could rangeban zoomers

>>128216535
>Human art and creativity is over.
there will still be artists, and those who were only in it for money/fame were posers anyways so who cares about them.

>>128215029
because people will identify so much with the artist and their life experiences. what AI has to say about love and life and joy and pain will really resonate with audiences

Currently ai art is public domain but if you haven't noticed it's always watermarked or the proof is embedded in the file itself. Only a matter of time until the laws get changed so that the copyrights go to the companies that own the bots (and rightfully so) in the first place.
>b-b-but ai is just data mining
So do humans only we call it "inspiration" and you can bet your bottom that's the stupid kind of argument that'll be used to justify laws change. If I were any of you I'd stop paying for these subscription fees and start downloading ai from github to train yourself before it mysteriously disappears.
>>128216535
>hire sex models
Why hire humans? Just use a digital 3d model. Works for the Koreans and Japanese.

>>128216596
What does a piece of shit like kendrick ha to say about anything ? That didn't stop people from lapping up his crap. No, AI will do just fine.

>>128216535
why even use human models, just pull a gorrlliaz or miku and have your front man or woman be a cartoon who never ages or dies

>>128214998 (OP)
Wow damn OP you are so right, I guess nobody will want to make art ever again now

>>128214998 (OP)
How braindead of an NPC do you have to be to not be able to tell the difference?

>>128217064
you don't even know the music in question, don't be so full of yourself

>>128214998 (OP)

the worst thing about ai slop is when it floods the place so you can't find human work as easily

self published books went that way

>its fucking over for the art form of music.
What kind if deranged logic even is this?
Even if AI Art truly did become par with human art in terms of quality, at best you'd then have to hold AI to identical standards to people, not higher standards, that doesn't make any sense. By this logic nobody on Earth should be making art because Michelangelo or Beethoven existed. What a lousy attempt at ragebait. Shame on you OP

>>128216989
The Gorillaz are aging in real time.

>>128217117
Neither of these dudes made the kind of shit I wanna see/hear

>>128217283
so what you're saying is that art is ultimately subjective to individual standards which make the entire argument regarding ai vs human art entirely moot?

>>128217335
I'm saying that the primary (or at least a major) motivator in making art is, in my opinion, a lack of satisfaction with the present material. You can have a metric against which you can judge the level of craft an artwork is executed with, but this only a one side of the whole story. Many fall into the trap of disregarding one for the sake of the other, and it's also fine to forgive certain shortcomings in a work if some of its qualities strongly appeal to your biases

>>128214998 (OP)
The novelty will wear off and people will go back to wanting human created works.

what i am curious about is
when will the corporations start using ai slop music in their stores
when will i walk into a store and the ai music will be indistinguishable from the muzak of yore

>>128217117
the only people who legitimately think AI is a replacement for creatives are people that aren't creatives tbqh
they don't understand that you cannot generate good taste by itself, only a skeleton
AI is simply a tool to be utilized

>>128217117
Okay, AI bootlicker.

>>128217092
word
i wonder the exponential flood of ai works will come to a point where they have to start auto-deleting stuff with low views just for storage space reasons in which case a lot of human art would eventually be lost too

>>128214998 (OP)
The AI music is good and will get better. The only thing that will ruin it is record companies suing everyone and creating an environment where only billionaire multi-nationals can profit

>>128214998 (OP)
WHO
FUCKING
CARES

>>128215058
>new art forms we didn't even think of yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9484gNpFF8

How many artists have already been using AI at least to get ideas without acknowledging it or us noticing?

>>128214998 (OP)
I still can't understand after 3 years people still don't realize how soulless AI art is. It's not fully encompassing yet but once it is, does the thought of almost all the art you see, hear and watch not made by a human just feel soulless or at least a bit weird?

>>128219220
Dude, I remember how even 15 years ago AI struggled to translate basic text, and people like Benny the Irish polyglot would say "AI will never get the nuances of informal speech/slang, and by the time AI can translate a book, there will be cities on the moon" guess what ? now it does. AI is/will adapt, go through many installments, from home/supercomputers, to quantum, organic, and whatever other models, until it reaches consciousness, it's unavoidable, humans aren't magical in that regard, AI as it's done today will reach a dead end, but models that don't simply parrot texts qritten by humans will eventually arrive, I give 10-20 years at most, for AI to develop true consciousness

>>128219378
the ideas you get are bad 9 times out of 10.
it's no different than using sample loops - nobody ever made fear porn threads about the use of sample loops.

>>128218629
>the only people who legitimately think AI is a replacement for creatives are people that aren't creatives tbqh
Yeah, it's people who used to pay us. So what exactly am I supposed to do without money to live?

>>128219378
How exactly are you going to get an idea from a machine you have to put an idea into to get output?

>>128215058
>>>/r/music/

>>128215095
Really good counter ironic analogy. AI music is going to be like the pet rock in 10 years, no one will give a shit. It will be in commercials, tv and film soundtracks, and airport music but no one will care about it in a deep way or interact with it or go out of their way to pay for AI music. People care about other people and their personalities and life experiences.

the turing test is retarded and doesnt account for 90% of people being retarded

>>128215029
For context, this poster is the guy who shills his youtube channel (>25 subscribers) of john lennon parodies every day

>>128218629
But remember this:
In this case the creatives are the massive corporations and their millionaire execs.
They get to stay around, you do not

>>128214998 (OP)
Right-wing inbred peasants will celebrate because they hate art and want artists to suffer for having talent.

>>128214998 (OP)
What if 50% of music released from the 60s forward was a.i. tho…

>>128219220
is the bottom right chick supposed to be asian or middle eastern?

>>128215029
nice spacing. go back. now.

it really isn't though
ai generated music will have a place
but people won't want to listen to music only made by machines

>>128216596
music at it's core is just about mathematics. what does that have anything to do with emotions? our minds are already tuned to appreciate certain forms of music with predictable beats and melodies.

>>128226205
I dunno man. Some boomers had the same attitude about the internet in the late 90's and early 00's. Now it has pervaded commerce and life in general.

>>128226850
>music is mathematics
NTA. Please mathematically explain to me how good melodies, both stepwise and otherwise, are formed.

>>128226205
>It will be in commercials, tv and film soundtracks, and airport music
So it will be in 99% of music, and everyone who was ever involved in any kind of music production can blow their brains out, that's what we've been telling you idiot.

>>128215095
i really want to like this analogy but it just doesn't compare honestly

>>128228250

Given the computers have been better than the best humans at chess for decades now, yet the game and its human players are more popular today thsn ever, this may just be the perfect analogy. A.I. music won't take over even when it DOES get better.

>>128215058
drake lost.

>>128227495
The fact that it's been really believable for probably 6 months or more and every time a label has been like "Hey kids check out our new AI popstar!" everyone clowns on it and ignores it, is enough evidence to me that it simply will not catch on. Now AI in general will most certainly be a mainstay in our societies but with "algorithms" being a thing for years now it's not a huge shift in my opinion, certainly not for art. Jobs have been getting more and more automated over time and I think that's a good thing because eventually the most dangerous jobs will be done by machines and it will save lives. But art? Not happening. Electronic artists didn't kill live music acts, hell digital can't even figure out how to kill vinyl for Christ's sake.
>>128227744
If you think commercials, tv and film soundtracks, and airport music accounts for 99% of music you are a hyperbolic idiot. I think AI will take up a good chunk but so what, that's not going to kill real human made music, just like the printing press didn't kill calligraphy. People will have the option to listen to their own library of AI generated music suited to their tastes but unless they want to watch a hologram perform AI music "live" they're going to have to pay to see a real life artist for in person experiences.

>>128215044
fine by me

>>128228455
>If you think commercials, tv and film soundtracks, and airport music accounts for 99% of music you are a hyperbolic idiot.
99% of music someone actually got money for, yes. Same thing goes for any visual arts-related job.