I'm sick of the Mountain Bike craze, everyone involved is a scrawny sØy who watched Bern Peak one time and suddenly wants to waste their time and money on expensive upgrades for their inherently inefficient heavy framed sidewalk princesses. We need more content around actual, practical road biking and not this consoomer shit.

>>2042654 (OP)
>he doesnt know how youtube recommendations work
anyway, post bike

agreed ngl the amount of people who have an mtb and are never ever going to ride an mtb trail, crazy. I fell for the meme too when i got my first bike as an adult. For some reason mtbs are socially acceptable for normies but not road bikes
Even if you are only going to ride it on the road (sidewalk, they are terrified of traffic)
people who actually mtb are kinda ok, i get the appeal. but I still think, its a bit gay just driving your bike somewhere to play with it in a park and then pretending its literally the coolest most badass thing ever
god forbid they do any actual exercise

>>2042655
What channels would you recommend that's more geared towards road/utility/commuter/touring bikes?

>>2042656
that's why I'm an enduro chad instead
normies seethe at the sound of a 2 smoker

worst behavior on the road I have seen is from pickup trucks with canyon bikes hanging off the back. you can tell they would never dare ride on the road or bike commute and they drive like fucking assholes.

I ride a mountain bike everyday, albeit one that I put upright bars and a brooks style spring cushioned seat on, and there are literally zero mountains, and virtually no hills, within 400 mi of me. I'm also 250 lb though and don't like the feel of flexy steel frames, and I'm just not going to buy a modern bicycle.

>>2042661
And this thread is gay as hell, bunch of fags crying about people enjoying things that they don't happen to enjoy.. one homosexual even brought up pickups. Classic.

>>2042658
Based of you. im gonna get a bike (motor) since in the uk the full license takes forever and too much money I’ll probably be starting out on some kinda 250, would love a 2 stroke. But end goal is an adventure bike for adventures and a stupid sports bike to kms on after i have toured the countries i wanna see

My state won't let me throw lights on a dirt bike and register it and that's really gay I should move to Appalachia

>>2042654 (OP)
The MTB craze was over in the 90s, why foam now?

>>2042667
We are currently in the midst of an MTB revival thanks to trendy online influencers

>>2042662
But I use my mountain bike hobby to meet other men with whom I have gay sex with

>>2042654 (OP)
I live in vietnam and some roads are very dogshit full of potholes, bumpy and stuff etc.
I had a touring bike I ALWAYS have to go slow. now? I have a MTB bike with 2.1" tire and I can go through those roads feeling so comfy and safe.

it really depends

>>2042691
you cant go anywhere cus ur hubs have no grease in them

I don't like fat lazy mtboomers but most of the worst of them have moved over to ebikes which are even worse

Still, that doesn't stop me from hating mtb culture, two things can be bad. Knobby tires on anything less than snow or mud are an abomination in the eyes of the bike lord, and anyone who uses a car to drive the bike to the special "bike park" is a loser and a moron and also has a small pecker

t. MAMIL

>>2042692
Fucking owned
my road bike hubs have grease in them and are working fine eat shit MTBfags

>entire thread about people making up other people to get internet mad at


Christ maybe I really should quit this hellsite. It’s all so tiresome. We only get either this ragebait “op has a bunch of hyperbole filled opinions and strawmen” threads or ebike threads.

>>2042692
what do you mean cant go anywhere. I just rode like 15km today. what do you mean no grease in them
are you dissing mtb or my bike in particular. im very new to biking I actually dont know

on a side note, can anyone tell me if this bike is worth roughly 230-250 usd? its brand new.

specs:
√ One-piece cast magnesium frame

√ Shimano MT200 hydraulic disc brakes (Japan)

√ Shimano M315 shifters (3×8 speed) (Japan)

√ Shimano Tourney TZ500 front derailleur (Japan)

√ Shimano Altus M310 rear derailleur (Japan)

√ Shimano TY301 crankset, aluminum, 24-34-42T

√ Square-taper bottom bracket, sealed bearing

√ Shimano HG200-8 cassette, 12-32T (Japan)

√ Double-wall aluminum rims, 4cm profile, Kenda 700×32c tires

√ ARC aluminum hubs, 6 sealed bearings, loud ratchet mechanism

√ Aluminum seatpost

√ Comfort saddle, soft with center relief channel

√ Cast aluminum pedals, with cup-and-cone bearings

free gifts:
4-digit lock
Bottle cage
Water bottle
Installation tools

nvm I swear I will not buy another bike for the next few years. getting addicted to this shit wihle being broke sucks

>>2042700
It's incredible that there are now bikes with magnesium frame, internal cable routing, hydro-disc brakes and original Shimano parts, and when you google their name, all you get are Vietnamese Facebook and TikTok links.
We truly live in the blurst of times.
The bike could even be good, I mean all parts are made in the same factories now and the design work has already been done and stolen by everyone. I'd say it's worth 250 if it's like new.

>>2042703
Whoever markets this shit is a genius. Every couple years a new style of bike is in fashion, and they market $3k gravel bikes with "your bike doesn't matter, this is not a race". Now they seem to pivot back to "max performance" and split the market into aero road bikes and 60lbs. E-MTBs.
The next big thing will be commuter bikes with hidden motors, belt drive, and Shimano's new AI-controlled battery-less automatic E-shifters.

>>2042682
Does online shit then define your horizon? The thread sort of implies this was the case. If so, go outside, stop consuming 'trendy online influencer' content. No one who isnt an absolute NPC cares, let alone even believes content of that sort shows reality. Why would it? Theres no incentive.

>>2042711
can you redpill me on magnesium frame? I mean, I did google and ask chatgpt so I did read a thing or two about it. but it's still unclear what truly differentiate it in daily experience, in durability etc.. I only know it can get rusty like steel and harder to repair than alu 6061.

and yes this bike model/brand is from china and only sold for a few weeks in vietnam. no official bike shops sold it yet only small sellers or individuals sell them so maybe QC can be sketchy

>>2042713
there are just so many stuff now, I dont think I will ever be able to afford a $3k bike, I heard bicycle price is getting more and more insane than before.
some people in my country say stuff like one can't get a decent MTB below $500 or something. I wonder if that's true, and why could it be true for MTB but not other kinds

>>2042724
>some people in my country say stuff like one can't get a decent MTB below $500 or something. I wonder if that's true, and why could it be true for MTB but not other kinds
What people call "decent" differs, and prices in your country may be slightly lower, but probably not by much. I bought a second hand, simple commuter bike for around $500, in the year 2005.
So yeah, if you buy a new bike of any kind, and go below $500, you risk getting unservicable shit.
That's the entry level price point of the biggest manufacturers (Giant), who can push prices down by buying parts in bulk. Below that, I'd try to find a bike shop that sells refurbished second hand bikes.

>>2042654 (OP)
My uncle spent like $10k on a mtb at the age of 60, like a year ago. He also has a bad back and there's no way he's fit and agile enough to ride properly. His money tho he can do what he likes.

>>2042691
I don't know how shit the roads are in Vietnam but I can't imagine it's not something a cheap cruiser with fat tires can't already handle

>>2042693
riding innawoods with your friends is better than in direct sunlight, heat radiating off the asphalt, inhaling exhaust, at risk of getting run over by some retard looking at their phone. plenty of trails outside of the lift access bike parks.
agree that ebikes are an abomination.

>>2042700
its bretty good, put some drop bars on it tho

>>2042748
>its better because its easier and safer and more comfy :D
woman behaviour. no thanks ill suffer and feel superior about it (i am)

>>2042713
>The next big thing will be commuter bikes with hidden motors, belt drive, and Shimano's new AI-controlled battery-less automatic E-shifters.

God that would be great. I've been waiting for a pinion, belt driven e bike with electic shifting for years now.

>>2042734
idk. obviously I dont have much experience but im using some unknown $150 mtb chinkslop and I feel fine. I can ride up to roughly 38km/h reliably with it. idk why bikes have to be so expensive. where does that money pay off to? more reliability/durability, or just superior performance? I have af riend who has a $600 giant bike (maybe its cheaper here than in the West, so it could be $800 where you live or whatever) and he never maintained anything but it still works fine after nearly 5 years

>>2042759
redpill me on dropbar anon. I never rode one. are htey more expensive, costly to maintain?

if someone mentions a YouTuber in context of a hobby I assume they know nothing

>>2042761
riding in a straight line on a smooth surface is super hard! you are very manly

>>2042768
>redpill me on dropbar anon
>comfier
>lets you go aero
>even in tops position you are 15% faster (from my experience)
>shifters/brake levers are integrated and more expensive
>instead of grips you have bar tape you must change from time to time
>less leverage because they are shorter
>looks cooler

>>2042799
Yeah true it must be easy. Thats why those tour of france guys dont even have muscles

idk i know most people who post here have never gone on a proper bike ride. you can tell

>>2042799
I love seeing mtboomers trying to strain their soft smooth mtbrains trying to understand how cycling works outside the ski lift park

>>2042808
b-b-but mtbing is really hard!!! I pedaled up a hill once! It was bumpy!!
then i rolled down the hill and it was really scary!! I was going 15mph (fast!) and there were trees near the trail!
you just wouldn’t get it
once i fell off and landed in some mud, its so much more dangerous

>>2042813
>I pedaled up a hill
>mtb
?????

>>2042654 (OP)
I ride a bone-stock Canyon Torque AL5, the only upgrade it ever got was a faster rolling rear tire.
I do jump lines, single trails and downhill lines without problems.

Roadies are trash.

>>2042817
gay

I just hurt my wrist on my mtb and found out urgent care doesn't accept my insurance :(

>>2042823
America moment.
I was airlifted out of a bikepark once because i broke a few ribs and was unconcious.
It did cost me exactly 0€. I even got paid for the week i spend in the hospital and the 2 weeks after.

>>2042817
Gay, atleast get the CF version.

>>2042700
For that price it's a great value. The frame and wheels look good enough. The groupset is basic but perfectly fine and can be upgraded in the future anyways.

>>2042837
im worried about the magnesium frame, will it corrode or rust? and if it has cracks or something can I repair it like alu? I never had it, only cheap steel and alu 6061 before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiHn5F9SLg

maybe watch it for a min or two and help me decide

>>2042841
How would you repair a cracked alu frame?
More importantly, why?

>>2042849
It's not like you can't weld aluminium, but it's just a band aid for an already broken frame because it won't undo any of the other aggregate material fatigue and it will in fact make the heat-affected zone of the weld even harder and more brittle, meaning that in due time it'll just start cracking again elsewhere or potentially even right next to the repair weld.

>>2042823
You do realize emergency hospitals in the US are legally not allowed to charge you until you've been treated for your illness or injury right?

>>2042849
why not? if cheap then no care, but let say u have a $9999 alu bike frame and it's cracked just some bits. don't you want repair it too? assuming the seller won't just give u another one for free.

help me to evaluate the bike please. it looks cool to me
>>2042851
it not being fixed permanently is fine, it's more worrisome that there would be sudden crackdowns while riding

>>2042919
If you paid that much for an alu frame, you were robbed. Literally the only selling point of alu nowadays is that it's cheap.
If you have the money, no matter what characteristics you want, there are better options. Carbon, steel or titanium.

>>2042922
yea I was just making the price up I don't know much about bike. but repairability should always come to mind right? what if your carbon/titan whatever bike has cracks? do we just throw them?

and by the way, please give me further advice on whether I should look at the magnesium bike I posted above. like when I go outside and look at a bike, I really can't tell what material it is, or how good quality the frame is.

>>2042924
To be honest, up till now I thought Magnesium bikes were a meme for the ultra-rich. I've never seen a Magnesium bike in real life and don't know anyone who owns one, online or offline. It's rarer than titanium, so I don't even know anything about its characteristics.
The fact that a Walmart Special uses it genuinely surprises me. Either it's a scam, or it's not really made out of magnesium, or my 30 years experience wrenching on bikes is useless now.

>>2042936
All this back and forth about the magnesium bike.
Face it: It's most likely a missattribution and the frame shown here is just made of 6061 aluminium and it may be the fact that Mg is typically the mayor alloying element of 5000 and 6000 series. I wouldn't even be surprised if the original vendors themselves communicate hapharzadly like that. But someone selling it on? Assume the layman will just make any claim about a bicycle, while being missinformed and overly confident.
I agre with >>2042936, its quite rare you find a mag cast frame, it then usually turns out to be AZ91 or AM60 magnesium or something along those lines, cost almost 10k new and if you didnt know it you'd think of it as just another alloy bike because there is no such thing as a material property that completely ignores the geometry of an object and then goes on to dictate properties like stiffness, SFR, dampening etc., regardless of how many types stuck with an infant cognition want to believe it.
So it likely is not magnesium and if it is it turns out inconsequential for you from a user perspective, it will be just as good. But for you as a buyer it would then likely be very much discounted, the seller doesn't know what they have, the market value is probably higher than the asking price.

>>2042851
>>It's not like you can't weld aluminium
Sure you CAN (Well many alloys are actually impossible to weld hut for the sake of argument). Even the thin walled section bicycle specific tubing. In fact there is no bicycle made of any material that can not be repaired after damage.
But out of all the common materials aluminium is usually the least economic to repair. Generally, with most bikes, unless it's a super expensive or historically valuable bicycle, its not economic to conduct repairs regardless of material. Aluminium is just so much worse:
First you of course need to be dead sure what you're looking at. No so much because of your filler material selection, thats actually of secondary importance. Your first concern is heat treatment. 6000 series? Well be prepared to chuck the whole thing into an oven for heat treatment after any welding, which then of course calls for new paint. 7000 series? Good you have a chance here that your frame will age at room temperature, but its going to take a month or two. So just weld, etch and paint. Even this by far exceeds the price of a new random aluminium frame, unless you do it yourself and dont value your time.

>>2042936
>>2042939
you guys are probably right. either the seller doesn't know or he's just falsely advertising it. I asked him a few questions he did not truly clear up whether it's magnesium frame, or an alloy with some magnesium in it. I even asked him whether it would rust if I use it under the rain and he couldn't answer, since this model and brand is actually brand new here (only been selling a few weeks). im only afraid of it not being sturdy enough and break while riding, or rain and water make it rust.

either way, I will be waiting to see if people buy it and like it or not

>>2042950
yeah, it's just alum

>>2042950
it's a bicycle. It will not randomly snap. i two because its designed for a 40 kg rider nor will it turn into a pile of rust flakes over night. You're making up scenarios that are not credible regardless the type of bike.

>>2042952
solid aluminium frame
kek

>>2042950
>>2042952
dude
it has no visible welds....
so its one piece cast frame, even magnesium frames arent pure magnesium, you would be set on fire if you fall on it if they were......

buy the fucking bike its 250 doler, asking the fucking seller if it would rust????? are you retarded????
unless you are 130kg it wont break dude, you wont go downhill on it????? you wont fucking crack the frame unless it already has microcracks.... and it wont fucking rust dude, even if its magnesium it wont rust, it will corrode, bubble up kinda, like you know.... aluminium???? and do you know what paint is????? does your fucking car corrode cus its mostly steel???? NO cus its fucking painted over

only downsides of bike
>QR (retard will tell you QR is shit when it really doesnt matter unless you are going downhill on double black diamond)
>shitty ass seatpost that is manufacturer specific most likely, so no dropper posts in the future

just get the fucking bike and put drop bars on it

>>2042952
damn I was hoping it to be some ultra hidden gem or whatever
>>2042954
roughly 8 years ago my alu bike literally BROKE in half while I riding. I literally just ride up to the pavement and it broke. completely damaged and irreparable. the other bike I had two years ago were steel and it was so rusted and actually had a big hole near the intersection I had to weld it for $2 then it was so shitty it made me hate cycling in general. I experienced BOTH of your so called "not credible" situations. not to mentioned I had another 2 bikes that were STOLEN in a NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. one time I just took a pee for 1 min and ITS GONE. and yes I didn't lock it because it's a nice neighborhood but I learnt the lesson now.
>>2042958
why are you laugingg
>>2042975
read the post above and uhh I kinda make like $250/month excluding all expenses so this purchase would be a huge one for me anon. I will spend all my disposable income for the next 16 months or so. it needs to be good. also read my post above again I faced all kind of bad shit. I even rode a fucked up MTB that cant shift and cant brake for few months. literally anytime I wanna brake I have to use my flip flops to stop the bike. I ended up replacing my flip flop every 3 months or so. I almost killed myself one time downhilling the steepest bridge in my city and my flipflop didnt help at all

>>2042975
wtf man? Ofc a magnesium item, like a chainsaw, is not manufactured from pure magnesium, just like an aluminium product is never manufactured using pure aluminium and the same goes for steel (or iron in that case) and literally almost anything else in metallurgy. No shit!?
The 'visibility' of welds had little to jothing to do with the item in question being welded or not.
'Microcracks'? Sounds similar to the gigaretard concept of 'surface rust'. You either have a crack or not.
And steel body panels primarily do not rust because they are galvanised. Completely different story.
Aaaand we've established it's an aluminium bike.
Dropper post,
really dude take your meds then read the thread.

>>2043010
I'm laughing because colloquially the notion of 'solid' implies an object was not 'hollow'. Without wanting to make this a sperg about topology you certainly understand that this roughly means the object has one surface, that is the one you see from the outside, and no void and given the volume of the frame if it was 'solid' aluminium it would be quite the unwieldy bicycle.

>>2043012
im sorry my english is not good enough to fully understand what you said, but I reckon that there was some irony or misinformation about the word "solid".
that guy still told me this is a magnesium bike. even bicycle salesmen are so dishonest

>>2043013
sorry anonga, people in this website like to feel better than others.
basically what they are all saying tho, is dont buy that piece of shit bike.
unfortunately for 250/month u will need to save up for 3 or 4 months and look for something good and decent.

but dont buy no magnesium shit or chinese shit or alloy shit. your money only comes once, double check before u use it. good luck brother

>>2043014
I don't really view chinese bikes negatively but I guess I will save up more for a taiwanese or at least reputable taiwanese/chinese model. I just can't buy western bikes (new) for the foreseeable future.
$250/mo is what I make without subtracting expenses so the real money I got left for hobbies are just tiny fractions. good thing I like running and other sports too so it's cheap to satisfy myself until I can buy a good bike.

maybe I will buy a repair toolbox first before another bike? I like the idea of knowing how to fix the most basic shit. right now I don't know anything

do you think bike shops will teach a customer (im not signing up to be an intern) how to do shit? what's a good price to learn in your opinion? average monthly salary is $200-300 here. some parts lower or much higher.

>>2043015
I don't know where you live but recently I started noticing cheap Indian made bikes flooding the market and I prefer them to Chinese bikes

>>2043016
bicycles are entirely mechanical. There is nothing about them that is not either self evident or explained in a components manual or well documented online. In doubt: Read about it once and apply what you've read.
No need to 'get taught' or anything. We're not doing science here.

>>2043016
Youtube has a lot of guides


But if you like learning hands on with your own eyes just walk up and ask the bike shop people if they will teach. if yes, great if no look somewhere else

>>2042654 (OP)
BASED, mtboomers seething itt. I will admit I fell for the meme. Got so bored so fast. Hated how every faggot thought we were in some secret club together. Got a cheap drop bar bike and started having infinitely more fun. Mtb is golf for söy boomers

>>2043018
>>2043019
>>2043020
thanks for the guidance on bike maintenance. I have one last irrelevant question:
how does this bike compare to the other fake-magnesium bike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sgW3jIaxkY

it's already dropbar. so pretty looking. so much more affordable (2/3 price). I;ve never rode a dropbar but I think a good reason why it's often faster is because position right?

I'm tempted to scam my neighbors for money then all in on the bike. by scam means selling the discounted bike I bought at a slightly higher price, albeit still way lower than MSRP or other sellers selling. is this too amoral?

nvm that's not scamming. I was just being retarded

>>2043101
The dropbar adds versatility in positioning, like many other styles of bars. Your shilouette being more compact is not a property inherent in the bar design. It's how you set it up.l and how you ride it. No point slamming your bars only to then ride with straight ellbows because you're unflexible and insecure.
Look at typical speed one-trick-ponies and you will find they will not come with a drop bar, as it is not the intendet for the rider to ever slack during whatever sports event it is intended for.
So the drop bar offers you at least three positions, where one of them places you lower while others let you relax.
So yeah: Set a flat bar up for the same comfort as you can achieve on a dropbar and the dropbar will let you get more aero. Set the flat bar up. to be as aero as the drops and the later will allow you to relax alternatively, while the flat bar will always keep you low. Lastly a flat bar can not position your hands below the toptube, let alone below the fork crown anyways so yeah, you sort of need drops if you want to be really slick.
I dont think flipping a bike is amoral. You are not deceiving your neighbour, they can make an i formed decision and it is their choice and their evaluation of the value of the bicycle. Why bot just disclose everytjing and let them know what you paid for it? Knowing whst you paid for it does not influence the value it has to your neighbour.

>>2043101
stop bro. stop. save up for a trek marlin 5 or surly journeyman. something real. if not i will go to vietnam and rape your soft brown bussy. fucks sake.

>>2043108
those """neighbors""" will not accept my price if they know I profit from it, even if it was a special occasion (super heavy discount clearance sale). thats why I think I have to lie. say the bike is 4.5m I bought it at 4. sale it at 3.5 and profit
then I can use that money to buy a better bike. dropbar sounds fun I wanna try once

>>2043109
bro why did you say that? you make me feel unsafe and insecure. why would a fellow biker want to violate my boyhole? you're weird bro stop saying that....
also why do you guys love trek so much? is it a surefire brand? like nothing will ever break randomly if I buy it?

>>2042654 (OP)
I dunno. I like his thing on 'underbiking.' I lived with a doc who made me promise to not do too many huge-ass jumps. I get it, looks fun, but I just hang on singletrack and take it fast on old MTBs.

It's a good way to get out into the country and work on some handling skills while you're at it.

>>2043177
dropbar hurts your back and you arent riding for speed you are riding for durability and comfort because your roads are bad quality


so you need a bike and tires that will last you a while in tough conditions


get a mountain bike. it doesnt have to be trek it can be giant or surly or salsa. just something good. you need to do more research before you spend money. get off this useless website and go to google.

Im poor and i paid 600 for a barely OKAY bike but if i knew what inwas doing i could’ve bought a used surly ogre and been fine


people will say get tubeless. they are retarded and rich and can go to bike store any day with their cars to get it fixed. u cant so dont do that stick with normal tires


and dont FUCKINF BUY ANY SHITTY MAGNESIUM ALLOY LOCAL BIKE just save up dont waste money like me. i swear to god i will force you to wear panties and i will do you like a dog in the street. dont fucking waste money

>>2043185
>roads
>mountain bike
ah mountain bike grifters again. You guys will ever only argue in favour of MTB for this use case because you simply refuse to accept the ordinary bicycle. Whatever they will nowadays market as a 'hybrid-' 'trekking-' 'city-' or whtever bike.
Just dont get >>2043101 if the roads are bad. The most pressing change that is needed is larger volume tires, like 1.5". And if the bicycle is meant to serve practical needs it will need a rack and fenders at least.
But you dont need an undersized frame, suspension, stupidly short gears and a tripple chainring, hardly any way to install a rack or fenders properly, fucked up steering geometry and - response and stupid ass knobby tires for the road. Because that's a MTB.

>>2043185
thank you for the serious and dedicating advice and also for sharing your perspective but this was strangely and abundantly homosexual and specific about gay rape fantasies please be civil and polite on the internet.
I will save up I guess. then this is my next question in the path of spending money wisely: my MTB right now have a 2.1" knobby tires (from compass). Im sure they work and are sturdy, but will there be a big difference if I change it to 1.5" slick tires? like in speed, handling, etc... I can already comfortably reach around 30km or slightly higher with my current bike. my rim is 49.53mm so I think it can fit 1.5".

>>2043187
thank u. streets are pretty bad when it comes to bumpiness and potholes, unless I limit myself to bike in the downtown areas, which I cant' always do.
since I bought MTB first time in my life I was so surprised it cant install fenders/racks easily. previously few months ago I bought 700cc touring bike and it had holes to setup fenders + front and rear racks. can you take a look at my bike and say whether I can install both? I would love to have a rear basket that can store my backpack, and something like a lid or a cover for it.

nvm I found it. is this a good idea for storage?

>>2043187
MTBs are the bikes built for the shitty road conditions he has with big tires idiot. not normally a fan of fat white boys but if you put on cat ears i can add you to my rape list. dont ever disagree with me again

>>2043194
YES mfker if you spend money on SMALLER TIRES the pebbles and dirt will DESTROY YOUR WRISTS why are you so quick to BUY SHIT

>>2043195
I'd think twice about adding lots of unsprung mass to an already high stress area.

>>2043194
your top speed is limited by aero, not tires, also generally wider is better (but dont put 3 inch tires obviously), and you can go tpu for lower resistance

>>2043195
get a rear bag frame and zip tie a plastic crate to it

>>2043194
>>2043195
>>2043203
and I forgot to add, stop spending money on useless shit, carry your BACKpack on ur BACK

also are you hairless in your private regions? and is you penis small enough to tuck in?

>>2043203
well. if the price to pay is cheap and the speed is faster then why not buy? its not like I have to cough up all my next year's hobby money for a new bike
>>2043210
good idea. especially the plastic crate I didnt think about it.
>>2043211
anon... if I go to work with backpack I will be very sweaty and the shirt or whatever I wear will smell bad. I will get fired. female coworkers will look at me like im a disgusting cockroach....family will disown me. I cant face that reality
and Plz stop being homosexual its a sin in both jesus and buddha laws

ok so besides 4chan I was joining a local bike facebook group in my city. I made some posts and shared enthusiasm and someone tagged me to join their group ride. I went to their group chat introduced myself etc... then took a selfie of my bike (that 1x12 chinese mtb) and the whole atmosphere drown out. some ppl don't interact with me anymore and the guy who tagged me DM'ed me and apologized to me he said I shouldn't join their group ride this weekend. he seemed honest doe

im not sad due to whatever happened that we didn't vibe together but there were one or two very very cute females I never rode bicycle together with women I wonder what it feels like

>>2043215
What was the issue, the bike? Or did you just look real cringe? Was it a socially acceptable time to post a selfie randomly?

>>2043220
maybe because I look hobo and unemployed (which I am), maybe because I'm ugly and my bike is chinkslop. they all have popular and expensive bikes.

>>2043222
Fair bro
Rip. i am unemployed but i could fool people, especially since i have a nice bike

God forbid i tell them im actually poor tho

>>2043213
UOOOGHHHH SWEATY FEMINIZED SHITBIKE RIDER....

>>2043215
fuck the normies man, bunch of lycra wearing fucks dont want to let you into their secret special riding club then dont worry about it. do your own thing

but again, let me say it again because i know u already forgot, f ucking SAVE UR MONEY. if u already have a shitbike i want u to wait until u have at least 700, i want you to go to facebook marketplace or local viet selling site whatever, and i want you to do your own research.make a list of 5 bikes that you think are the best, then come back to here or some other bike website on the internet and ask which bikes are the best out of your choices. again, STOP buying shit for the bike. just wait. buy a nice dress and shave your hobo beard. maybe some face wash and shampoo as well

>>2043203
>MTBs are the bikes built for the shitty road
Wrong.
The bicycle. More precisely the ordinary and the safety bicycle, were originally conceived before road conditions were anywhere remotely comparable with what we have today. They were built for the roads of the time, which today we consider shitty roads. And the later safety bicycles were built with utility in mind.
In contrast, some boomers like GT and similar individuals reacted to a saturation of the market with bicycles by advertising the a new style of bicycle as adventurous, cool and superfluous - as opposed to the abundant common safety bicycle saturating the market.
Yes I do mean the superfluous part. Aparently the people involved pushed the idea that if you depend on your bike you must be to poor to afford other means of transportation and a bicycle could only be cool if you used it for sports and leisure.
This new style of bicycle, the MTB was, as the name implies, not built for any road, neither a good nor shitty road, but mountainous terrain. This again underlines the fact that the idea was not to provide a utilitarian means of transportation but said superflous piece of sports equipment.
Now guess what? The shills saturated the market. They were successful in branding 'the old' style of bicycle as boring, embarassing even and every kid that wanted a bicycle wanted and got an MTB specifically. Regardless of their intended use case being MTB or not. The MTB crowded generic bicycles out, even in urban settings, and people, lacking options, found that the MTB was, with some compromises, perfectly fit as a means of transportation. Just like people are finding out today that the road bike, with some limitations, is perfectly fit for the job.
But none of this changes the truth that the traditional bicycle is the optimal choice for the job.
Long story short:
Fags have always been distracted by marketeers too easily and thus steered away from tradition.

Transpor/troons/

>>2043229

>>2043228
I agree with you, but it must be noted that the current trend of gravel bikes kills the concept of fad (marketed) bikes, as its literally the perfect type of bike suitable for everything

GRAVEL CHADS WW@

>>2043231
Kind of. I agree from a utility standpoint. But I do feel like again, they, the marketeers, needed a new name for an existing style of bycicle.
In my perception the cycles work like. this:
A new fad comes around (like go offroad, go fast, haul shit, small kids bike for adults...) and with it the style is created and pushed onto impressionable customers. The style then 'evolves' and particularly specializes to a point where the bikes become a pure one trick pony. It takes the name it was originally given with it. Someone then has post nut clarity and wishes back the bike they started out with. But since the name has been dragged along you need a new name for the original instance of the style. Rinse and repeat.
We have 700c 'BMX' bikes, 'hybrids' and 'touring bikes, and 'randonneurs' (some. of the circles turn faster), road bikes, xc, tracklocross, fullies, DH, hardtails and so on. It's all just evolution paralleled with frequent resets to an earlier state.

>>2043228
Some of this is true, but the "shitty roads" thing is just a noob's way of saying "I have no idea what I'm doing and this is all new and scary". Every fragile ego person asking for help without being willing to reveal ignorance will say oh my roads are uniquely shitty and the rest of you have glass-smooth roads and so I need to justify a fear-based design choice without sounding like I'm a complete baby.

>>2043243
some roads ARE just fucking shitty pothole crumbling traps with glass and pebbles everywhere anon not everything is a psyop

>>2043243
>>2043244
If a road is as shitty as 'off-road in mountainous setting' then it is not a road. This is implied and literal in the 'off-road' part.

>>2043244
Idk i agree with that guy. Some roads are shit, some of the roads near me really suck. one is so bad it kept vibrating my light off. Does that mean i need to cry about it and get something with fat tires? If you asked me when i was completely new to cycling id have said yeah
Reality is most of the roads are doable, and since i am on roads, really i should just be riding a road bike
I have watched a few friends get into cycling and go through the exact same progression, shit entry level mtbs with extra padded fatty seats, and then slowly manning the fuck up, building up a resistance to le bumpy roads, and eventually buying a bike that is actually useful and suited for riding on roads

>>2043249
When I was completely new to cycling my bike was a tri-bike on 23mm tires. 700c in the rear 650c in the front to be precise because that's what I had. Bars / grips were ever so slightly below the front rim. Did that stop me from taking it to where the paved roads and and dirt and gravel roads start? Nope. The only thing tgat was impossible was getting through a spot where recent downpour washed up a pile of pebbles. The front wheel would just burry in that, stop you dead and want to turn. But that's exactly why you need to look where you go. Still got that thing. Shes even got battle scars from when I OTB in exactly such a spot while absolutely shitfaced from a festival.
So yeah, hard to believe that any bike is impossible to ride on any road that remotely deserves the name road.
Then again I agree with xou guys as far as no one has seen everywhere in the world and perhaps there is that one place somewhere where conditions (like sediment, weather, road use etc. etc.) make it such that roads don't exactly road much. Darien gap maybe?

>>2043251
Pretty much
just avoid the potholes bro
If the majority of your roads are literally gravel or dirt, get a gravel bike
If not, go a different fucking way
It’s literally that simple.

>>2043252
The point I'm making for quite some time is: A normal bike, (call it touring hybrid city... IDGAF) that is equipped with 1.5"-ish tires is perfectly adequate. No need to fall for memes and upselling, like 'gravel bike' which is well... a normal bike just it got no fenders or rack which makes you not risk looking poor.
Meanwhile there has not been one single argument so far to as why
- a gravel bike was somehow superior to the above on a gravel road
- a MTB was somehow actually intended for (shit) road use
So what's wrong with just consulting people to get a norml bicycle and not fall for fred shit and be ripped off for it?

...wait, do MTBfags really think Mountain Bikes are necesarry for any type of slightly rough road or level dirt terrain? Do people legitimately daily mountain bikes for commutes?

>>2043283
Yes and yes. They're too obese to unweight when they roll over a slight crack in the road so they need pogo sticks and monster truck tires and that makes them feel like real tough guys unlike those weak gay twinks on road bikes

>>2043284
nonsensical strawmanning AND i WISH there were more weak gay twinks on road bikes

sadly only fat, aging white anglo saxon females and buff chads on road bikes here

no femboys
>>2043283
name two(ni)(dos)things wrong with people doing what they want with their own bike, as long its not an ebike

>>2043283
apparently, going of off the lunacy you get to read here.
apparentlysome would even go as far as to argue the MTB was designed for roads.

>>2043286
see >>2043285
and then kys if you cant reply

>>2043285
>name two(ni)(dos)things wrong with people doing what they want with their own bike, as long its not an ebike
It's fine but telling people they need a mountainbike for just dirt pathways is kind of bad advice because MTBs just aren't designed for that, they're designed for well, mountain biking, which means heavier frames with full suspension that make downhill crawls more comfortable but make them less efficient for regular commutes.

Underbikers > Mountain Bikers
>Underbikers
-Will smoke you on any terrain with nothing but their cheap ass Walmart cruisers
>Mountain bikers
Spent 3k on their full suspension 30 lbs fat tired monsters just do ride 10 mph on a level dirt path

the humble 100 dollar hardtail from facebook marketplace is a perfectly good road bike. i will not be convinced otherwise

>YOU NEED AN MTB FOR NORMAL PATHS PEOPLE CAN BUY WHATEVER BIKE THEY WANT I HATE ROAD BIKES REEEEE
why are you even fucking here, you don’t ride
You don’t even like cycling, and you don’t want other people to like it. Suggesting they buy a fucking useless bike they wont enjoy riding, because its shit. riding an mtb when you don’t fucking need to is shit. it makes you a shit rider who cant ride far. every CRINGE ELITIST ROADIE has already been through the mountain bike phase and grown the fuck out of it.
how long have you been cycling? why are you still using the wrong bike? Are you a retarded manchild? are you too poor to take the step up to a bike that is literally going be a better riding experience? have you ever tried a bike that isn’t le mtb? have you got some kind of buyers remorse you are trying to cope with by lashing out at everyone who had the brains and funds to get a bike for adults? I dont get it. I don’t get why you post on /n/. Its like going on /g/ and claiming everyone is a faggot for having a computer because your xbox is literally all you need and it has a built in web browser

>>2043292
Since you insist. There is no sensible reply to that other than calling it out for what it is: Alot of ad hominem and also moving the goalpost. Not a single argument provided.
The whole discussion centers around consulting the guy who needs a bike (guess all the sperging scared him away long ago) and helping him understand and choose what he needs.
At no point did anyone ever make claims that people should not do whatever they want. In fact I and at least one other anon specifically made the case of us too misusing bicycles, using them (far) outside of their intended use case.
Thus the post youre referencing is nothing but a sorry attempt of moving the goalpost and the focus of the entire discussion. It is painfully obvious that it is nothing but an attempt to 'win an online discussion' instead of being of any help, through the implication that anyone argued that people could not do whatever the fuck they want when in reality the discussion concerned things like a recommendation of the bicycle best suited to anons use case and also objective observations about bicycles and their history or intended use case.

why do you guys fight over such trivial details? whatever the name is, just buy the features not the marketing right?

I bought the 1x12mtb because every speed bump I rode through I felt so uncomfortable. having bigger tires helped. having suspension fork helped (especially when I go from the road to pavement/pedestrian lane). it help so much. price was good too.

only downside is component names are unknown and some problems happened out of the box (rear hub crackling). but besides that everything was fine

>>2043340
How far do you ride

>>2043340
how fat are you
how many km per week do you do?

>>2043342
idk anon maybe somewhere from 30 mins to 2 hours each time. I don't use apps or dedicated devices. I dont even know how fast I ride until last week I was going home with my friend she was riding scooter and said I'm going around 35kmh.
>>2043344
im 65kg 166cm. I'm definitely skinnyfat but not obese. I started doing planks last week though and it seems like they do help somewhat.

honestly I wanna spend all day cycling but Ijust cant.

>>2043340
Look.
'We' are probably fighting for two reasons:
One anon tries to get away with unfair dialectics and rhetoric tricks that are so cheap and pathetic they in itself are even an insult to the opposing party. Presumably the same Anon (yes I understand the point behind image board being anonymous) will also make factual statements that are objectively wrong in the first place.
The other 'fighting' that you're seeing is centered around the desire to get anon the best bike for his situation and aparently opinions here vary. I suspect this is a result. of information asymmetry. We do not know everything about Anons situation (like his road surface quality, his fitness, ailments, his expectation of average speed, his single trip and also weekly mileage, luggague etc.) and everyone then probably assumes Anon was like themselves in those departements.
Not to insult you but the choice of MTB implies, and you have confirmed that >>2043345 your mileage and desired average speed are lower than that of many other people. That's fine. I personally just believe there is a very obvious pattern where people who advocate for using MTB on the road and to get around almost always have less baggage, shorter single trip distances, lower weekly mileage and lower expectation regarding average speed (probably goes hand in hand with your mileage as no matter how much you enjoy cycling no one want's to spend all their time on mobility). This is no coincidence as the features (suspension fork, tires...) rob your power and make slower even if the power output was the same. Also please stay off of the sidewalk, its not for cyclists / vehicles and what reason would one have to be on it anyways? It's not like the last 100m are going to make a difference in your overall time if you dont walk your bike on the sidewalk versus hoon along it.
>component names unknown
you mean like no branding? How is that 'a problem' if the components hold up?

You hate us cause you aint us

>>2043354
im the anon with the 1x12 chink bike who also asked for other bikes recommendations.

what's a good speed for commuting as well as exercising? im not that weak I think I rode up to 50km with my previous 700cc bike. but every time I hit a bump or whatever it just feels so rough and unsafe.
I think because most if not all new MTB come with big tires and suspension forks so it's convenient to relate MTB with comfy features, and slow speed too.

sidewalk and pedestrian lanes here dont exist everyone just moves whatever direction they want most of the time.

unknown components not necessarily = bad but it makes things more confusing to me. there are endless variations and standards in bicycle so if I gotta replace something I want the exact model names and info. my current bike you cant even search for any info from the company itself. weird

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8paX22Sgzg

it actually can be so much worse and different than in the vid but u got the idea. Im not gonna spend 5 mins stuck in the traffic when I can go sidewalk and turn for 30s. and its not just one occurrence its like 20 times you gotta make this decision everyday

>>2043360
comparing your speed to internet people will not get you anything useful because of differences in conditions, the way things are measured/calculated, and of course e-statting

when I used to commute on a dedicated bike path way before corona cyclists shat everything up my average speed to work on a 1 hour commute was about 3mph better than city streets post-corona but it felt like it was about 10mph faster

the difference between a ham planet slow rolling to work and a speed demon being an asshole and blowing every light at top speed is not as much as you probably think but that won't stop estatters from claiming numbers that would make tadej pogacar jealous

>>2042878
I'd rather have a hurt wrist and $2000. I just scheduled an appointment with my regular doctor.

>>2043372
>>2043372
wow u seem so specific with words huh. no dedicated bike path here. actually no dedicated anything. its anything goes and hope u dont get caught by police or their cameras.

I want to be able to ride around 40-45km effortlessly, so that any commuting I do like go to work (wen I have one), meet friends, buy stuff, deliver etc... can be done with the bike instead of using my scooter. maybe next bicycle, I dont think I can ride up to 45km consistently with my bike ratio.

also why is riding so much stress relief? I was sad and depressed all day and I just went outside for a chilly night ride. roughly 1 hour. now I feel noticeably better. im sure its temproary though

>>2043392
yeah dude I just ride bikes so i dont lose my shit and kill somebody ngl

>>2043360
Well for commuting a good speed is one that results in time spent commuting that is satisfactory to you. It depends alot on your style, when I was young I hooned to work and sometimes threw up first thing upon arrival. I grew older since.
A good speed for exercise depends on your fitness and your bicycle. The speed is irrelevant, the exertion is what matters. So you're actually fit and you're on a TT or Tri bike? 45 km/h.
You're fat and you're on a backfiets with a crunchy 3 speed hub? Well I guess if you average 20 thats fine for your teaining effect.
>rough and unsafe
well I cant relate vut I can tell you, assuming your bicycle is in good nick: It's not unsafe.
Standards: Stick to well established parts. This is fluent and also deoends on where you are at. If you're in africa do not get anything but a bike with a square taper iso-threaded bottom bracket, a 1" threaded headset, dynamo lights and maybe a single freewheel or 2x7. If youre somewhere else you might consider 24mm, 25mm and 30mm external bottom brackets and perhaps some tapeted threadless headset a reasonably well established standard. Just stay away from highly niche and propertiary stuff, shimano octalink bottom brackets or rohloff dropouts.
Either way since everything is sfandarsized, even if sometimes it's a rare standard, you never need to replace a part with exactly the same make and model. Just look up a list of standards for the part and figure out what you have. Worst case ask here and watch the monkey loose it over a replacement bearing.

>>2043394
>You're fat and you're on a backfiets with a crunchy 3 speed hub? Well I guess if you average 20 thats fine for your teaining effect.
>me doing 1 hour of 20 kph average on my gravel bice on road to work

how the FUCK do I commute with my bicycle when it's like this though? anyone been through those situations? what did u do???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irUe09p9_B8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irUe09p9_B8

this is like 15-20km away from me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPRnAaxRto4

>>2043397
How do you commute at all when it's like this?

>>2043396
>me doing 1 hour of 20 kph average on my gravel bice on road to work

How? Thats dogshit anon. I average 25kph on my mtb and 30 on my roadbike and thats not even pushing it. I reach that speeds averaging between 190-200 watts.
Are you stradling around with 120w or what?

you are all weak fags I commute every day on a granny bike for 50 miles each way and I can do it in under 2 hours

>>2043411
props to your granny for hauling your fat ass to work on the back of her bike every day

I was thinking about getting into mountain biking. I didnt even know it had become a meme. If its a meme now are there at least hot girls who are in it?

>>2043410
Don't be like that Anon. Other people might be females, might be 1.5m 40 kg people, might be old asf, might have low drive or eant to sort of enjoy things, might be genetically destined to be gigabrain or samson, might have diseases or diasbilities, might be, might be, might be...
t. I used to be like that, at least when it comes to people not 'wanting' things enough and not pushing their limits, if not worse. Don't be like that. It's okay, not everyone is the same, some want other things than you or me.

>>2043410
not him but what does the elevation look like? Niggas cant be posting average speed without mentioning the amount of climbing they did surely

>>2043428
I shiggyly hope you seriously dont let contrarian schizo 4chudders tell you how to have fun correctly.

I mean jesus fuck if you want an mtb go get an mtb

>>2043430
Based "everyone is different" zen enjoyer

>>2043435
I wasnt suggesting that I would now not try it because of this thread. I just was not aware that it had become a meme.

>>2043439
brother one ragebait thread from a fucking pepe OP

does not a meme make

simply posting here because it's relevant. any actual MTBers can tell me if I can sell this for a good price? some dude wants to trade it for my 2000w escooter. https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3316889/

>>2043410
well I am 100kg
heres some stats, total ride was 17.5km, average HR 152, max 179, avr. speed 19.9kph, max 55.8, elevation gain 153m

how much faster will I be if I loose like 15kg I wonder

rim brakes are superior

>>2043455
lol you'll be faster when you put out some wattage. Worry about becoming a weight weenie later if you really then feel like you need to go from say 5W/kg up into bonkers hillclimbarinoo land.
Altho if youre fat loose that fat and put on skme useful mass. It's better for you in every way.

>>2043460
>dude le just put more effort
>dude le loose weight
why you think im biking retard

post bike

>>2043461
which one?

>>2043462

>>2043465
degenerate spastic

>>2043465
>he posts bike, therefore btfoing you
>all you do is retardedly post an image and nothing else


Pepe posters in 2025 need to grow up or die.

>>2043401
what do you mean? you still gotta go to work, buy food, etc... every year there must be at least 20 times like this, or more extreme

>>2043455
Strava is not accurate btw
It said I did 90kmh once which is impossible

not sure who to side with here, on the one hand pepe posting is cringe, especially in reaction to an objectively cool bike. otoh "post bike" is a cringe response to having a wrong opinion. I think you should both get together and wrestle, the winner fucks the loser

also estatters need to die

>>2043484
>impossible
im consistently hitting 80 on a hill that is not even steep i would not say its impossible
Still looking for a hill that will send me faster, they have too many bends in though

>>2042654 (OP)
Riding in the woods is fun comfy and relaxing. Riding among cars is stressful and hurts my ears.

I dont argue with retards, thats why I posted only a pepe
>cheap bike
>so most likely poorfag
>so most likely stupid (pic rel)
>so no point in arguing

>>2043462
why dont ppl learn how to do thieir QRs up properly

>>2043495
>'properly' oriented QRs
bwahahaha that's what being online, autistically reading 'le expert advice' and never riding does to a MF
Its Æro. You wouldnt understand. ALSO THERE IS NO 'RIGHT' ORIENTATION FOR YOUR QR OTHER THAN TO CONFORM. TO SCENARIOS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AND ONLY EXIST IN YOUR HEAD

this angers the massive faggot

>>2043514
Its just a little pathetic is all, i still have a skateboard, but i dont use it anymore or claim its a superior mode of transportation because i am now an adult

>>2043538
???

>>2043514
how can I buy this bike for $100? what's the trick.

>>2043550
ask someone who owns it and specifically tell them you want to give them 100 since you want that to be the outcome
but you know that

>>2043513
too dumb didnt read

>>2043567
are you the next retard itt?

>>2043567
I put my front qr straight down cause I aint a pussy. Rip bozo

>>2042656
>>2042691
>>2042740
It's funny how entry-level MTB's and fake MTBs (NX forks and the like) have become default commuters most places. Most of their users would be better of with a rigid with MTB-sized slicks 'cause they will never even touch a dirt road, let alone a trail.

It's obvious why its MTB and not a road bike (flat bars). It's a bit more perplexing why city commuters would want suspension, or rather, why it would be marketed to them. I think the hybrid segment of the market just isn't very competitive and getting a fake MTB is actually cheaper while the uninformed customers assume the fake suspension fork to be good value.

>>2043617
ok you got me thinking. is there a big difference between rigid fork (just standard, unknown fork, nothing luxurious or prestigious) vs same standard for suspension fork, but the suspension is locked?

you're right that I don't always use the suspension. sometimes I lock it. sometimes I use it (if I know those roads are uncomfortable). but I don't get the notion that you guys are so into rigid fork, when you can just lock the front fork and it'll act like one.

the common ones for commuters/beginners in my country are not just MTB but fixed gears and touring models too. previously I had this and I enjoyed it. like I didn't have to sell it and buy the MTB at all if not for the constant shocks and bump, for having to avoid potholes at all time OR when I want to ride on the sidewalk without feeling like my bike will break.

>>2043657
its bcoz cheap forks are trash anyway, they are heavy as fuck and wear out very fast, develop play very quickly, all kinds of shit nobody wants to deal with. The extra comfort they provide, is it really worth it?
Depends.
>had an entry level mtb
>fork was the first thing to start going
>always had it locked out anyway
i just shit on mtbs because buying one was a fuckin mistake, a mistake EVERYONE insists on making for themselves, people told me get a hybrid or roadbike, did i listen? Nah

>>2043658
well I haven't experienced what you said yet. maybe it varies, or maybe it just didn't happen yet.

so if it's mainly the fork and the tires. can I just swap them out? either find a higher quality suspension (im thinking suntour models), or just buy a rigid fork like you said and plug them in.
then change smaller slick tires to it. I guess it should be significantly faster and handier by then.

I don't really care about weight, but I never rode really expensive bikes so maybe my standard is low.

I also just discovered my rear hub uses cup and cone bearings. are they inferior for acceleration and coasting speed? there seem to be both goods and bads for using steel balls instead of cartridges, but in practice most newer bikes in my country only seem to use cartridge bearings.

>>2043617
its literally just normies thinking mtbs are cool, i fell for it too. theres some kind of long running psyop where mountain bikes are considered cool and useful bikes are just for weird boomers. If they even tried a bike with skinny tires before buying an mtb they would be like hey wait a second this is really fast holy shit
but no its some sort of bicycle brainwashing left over from teen years, a non cyclist looking at a road bike just doesn’t understand what they are looking at. but a mountain bike? Its pretty radical. Like skateboarding bro

>>2043663
You CAN put a rigid fork and faster rolling tires on an mtb yeah, i did. But it was still fucking trash compared to even a cheap road bike and actually cost a lot more to do
Drop bars are just better too once you get used to them. If you go try some drop bars for 5 minutes you wont want them but honestly it takes like one or two days to re train your brain and body to think they are normal. And then flat bars feel stupid
you can go the fucking around with an mtb route if you want man but its straight up just not that smart, you’ll probably learn something though while fucking with it. Its what i did, glad i got a roadbike tho

>>2043667
adding to this when you do decide to get rid of the mtb nobody wants a rigid fork or thin tires on it so you just waste your money trying to do it. just sell it as is before you fuck it up. If you are ok with it being an inferior bike, thats whatever. If it gets the job done its fine but really, if you actually like cycling. Shits dumb
Don’t bother

>>2043667
>>2043674
ok I got your point. for now I feel fine with the bike but mainly because I haven't got any new problem with it + I haven't tried dropbar (especially reputable models) so I will re-evaluate my experience when I get to try them.

can I still install front and rear racks/storage with those dropbar bikes? I like fast of course, but i'll use it as everyday bike most of the time if I can too. so I can sacrifice some speed and style bonus as long as the bike makes it convenient for me.

I don't think I love cycling like you do, I like it but I haven't became "dedicated" or whatever. I just like to use it instead of my scooter whenever I can.

and no matter what kinda bike I use, I can still exercise effectively as long as I "put max effort into it" right? that's also my secondary goal. I like the feeling of riding up a bridge or hill and feel the burn from my quads

>>2043667
>>2043674
and thanks for the advice on re-selling the bike. I haven't thought much about it.

there are little details that seem to slip past me. I watched a video about carbon bikes and how the adjustable sidestand slowly damaged the bike (the bike got cracks from it) like holy shit. it's just so shitty something so normal (having a sidestand) can damage the bike like that. and it ain't cheap at all

is it true that alu 6061 frames shouldn't be installed with racks and other heavy objects?

like I get it, steel is stronger and whatever, but if an alu bike is rated at a maximum of 120kg load for example. and lets say im only 70kg. shouldn't it still be very safe to distribute the remaining free weight to back and front? like 15kg each for example? it's still 20kg below the limit

>>2043681
You can install racks on anything, but its a better experience with dedicated rack mounting points.
and yeah you can get exercise on any bike really, but I don’t know what kinda terrain you live near, i have lots of hills and even as a strong cyclist on an mtb i would be going so slow it would demotivate the fuck out of me. but thats up to you, i like to go a decent fast pace or i get bored/feel retarded
Not to mention gearing, mtb gearing you will spin out (wheels going too fast to put anymore effort into the pedals) at pretty low speeds, speeds that are very easy to reach even as a new cyclist. So then on flat, its no longer really providing exercise. You just get up to speed and mostly coast. you will reach a maximum speed you can actually pedal at pretty fast
carbon frames and shit are not for putting kickstands on. They are easily damaged by things they are not designed to be strong for, so putting a random stand or universal rack or some shit on it, its not reinforced in that spot. not smart
>>2043688
Its fine. I doubt you are putting enough weight on a rack to fuck up the frame. Before you even got close to it, it would just handle like shit /flex the frame and you wouldn’t want to do it anymore

>>2043703
thank u for explaining the possibilities. I feel more confident to mod my bike for my commuting needs now. I was hesitant on spending money for racks. I will go to a bike shop for installation.

may next year be good and I might earn myself a road/speed-focused bike too. cheers

>>2043462
>this larp shitter is talking about wats per kg
grim

>>2044133
I don't think you know what you're talking about

>>2044142
ok toeclips

>>2044169
I got bikes with SPD-SLs, slotted cleats, XC, hipsterbro straps, flats, and the old style as on PD1050 and such.
But you tell me why I shouldn't keep my old bikes period correct.

>>2042654 (OP)
You must be real insecure to hate on others for enjoying bikes.

Anyway. I ride a dirt jumper everywhere. Street, trails, gravel. Whatever. I enjoy its simplicity, ruggedness, and it looks awesome.
I don't actually notice significant differences between bikes. It's just a frame with wheels. Ride what makes you feel good.

>>2042654 (OP)
Weird how a mtb is just a road bike with different tires.

>>2044308
Well and that whacky geometry. So basically the whole bike is different.
>>2044306
I have the suspicion OP is a wee bit misunderstood. At least I agree with the general observation and sentiment that I suspect is behind this thread:
The MTB has almost displaced other bicycles from areas and use cases where it is suboptimal.
True. Optimization is just as valid or invalid as any other goal, like enjoyment, style, LARP or anything else. So the issue is not people making choices or enjoying bikes.
The problem is that you can not help but realise there is many young players out there who as a result don't know better or get the MTB pushed onto them when it's highly likely they would enjoy a bicycle specific to their purpose (commuting, utility...) much more.

>>2044266
>leaving the 30 y/o shitter you bought as it is is "keeping it period correct"
lmao, post your sub 8.5kg bike modern bike
or even just post what you use to measure your watts
oh wait, you are a poorfag who can only shittalk and larp

>>2042803
>tour of france guys

>>2043295
>Spent 3k on their full suspension 30 lbs
try 40lbs, most edge toward 45lbs

>>2043688
>is it true that alu 6061 frames shouldn't be installed with racks and other heavy objects?
No, it is not true.

>>2043688
I've done like 50lbs using an axle mounted front rack on a 6061 al track fixie that has a carbon fork. You'll be alright

>>2044312
>geometry
It's just a series of tubes with wheels.
There isn't THAT much difference

gomennasai onii chan please stop bumping retarded pepe thread it’s killing my libido and i wont want to ride your “transportation vehile” arigato gozaimashitaaaaaaaaa!!!!

>>2045147
We're all just tumbling through the void on a speck of dust. Nothing you do matters.

>>2045147
LMAO. Have you ridden two different bicycles in your life? Wtf is this even? Please ride a sprint bike then switch over to a dutch bike. Ride both without hands, try both at very low speed and in tight corners. Then say there was no didderence again.
Why do you think MTB have this very distinct MTB feel? Might be the center of gravity and head tube angle?

>>2045179
Bro, he's right. There is very minor at best difference in different bike design.
You just suck at riding I guess.

>>2045221
You and the other guy are simply deranged.
Do you really think the difference in all bikes handling are a result of the tires and handlebars? Do you really think that it follows a road bike is just a bicycle with narrow tires and drop bars and also not to distinguish from say a sprint or pursuit bike and a MTB is just the same bike again but with fat tires and flat bars and so on?
Do you not find yourself doing things like shifting your center of gravity for things like climbing, sprinting, slow turns and braking? Do you believe you can ride every bike hands free at only 10 mph?
I'd rather suggest you suck at riding. So much so that you can't even tell how different bikes handle and behave, it's probably all the same to you. But youre deranged.

>>2045228
Calm down autismo.
Bikes aren't that different.

>>2045229
I'd consider you numb if you rode two different bikes and found they are the same.
But not finding a difference between entire styles of bicycles, say MTB compared to a road bike, is just beyond comprehension. Or believing the difference was just the tires or something.

>>2045230
he is just a retarded poorfag