Thread 1424379

The stock market is done "crashing" >>1423905.
The "stock market crash" ran for a full 1 trading day, and the 1% drop seen by indexes has now recovered.
This historically huge crash will surely make the history books for generations to come
https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-sp500-nasdaq-market-sell-off-tesla-stock-tsla-musk/
Stock Market Today: Dow Bounces After Market Sell-Off; Tesla Rallies On Musk Pay Package (Live Coverage)

The Dow Jones Industrial Average and other major stock indexes rebounded in morning action Monday following Friday's stock market sell-off. Among the gainers were Palantir Technologies (PLTR) and Tesla (TSLA), the latter of which rallied on the stock market today after the company approved a new pay package for Chief Executive Elon Musk.

After the opening bell, the Dow rose 0.6%, while the S&P 500 gained 0.7%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq composite moved up 0.9% in morning trade.

The 10-year Treasury yield ticked lower to 4.2%. Oil prices fell with West Texas Intermediate futures selling around $65.70 a barrel.

Stock Market Today: Palantir, Figma, Shopify, Spotify
Just after the stock market open, Palantir Technologies, Figma (FIG), Shopify (SHOP) and Spotify (SPOT) were among the big movers.


Tesla Stock Rallies On Musk Pay Package
The electric-vehicle giant approved a new pay package for CEO Elon Musk, awarding him 96 million shares. As of Friday's close, those shares were worth about $29 billion. The shares only vest if Musk stays CEO through 2027, and they have a five-year holding period.

The pay package comes in place of the 2018 incentive deal for Musk that was blocked by a Delaware court. It will act as interim compensation should that 2018 deal be reinstated, Wedbush analyst Dan Ives said in a note to clients.

"We believe this grant will now keep Musk as CEO of Tesla at least until 2030 and removes an overhang on the stock," Ives said.

>>1424379 (OP)

93% of the stocks are owned by the wealthiest 10% of people in the country, if they don't care, you won't notice anything is different either.

>>1424379 (OP)
Hey anon did you forget WHY the stock market was panicking? Something about, oh I don't know, the fact that job growth was revealed to not be real and we're actually deep in a recession and its only getting worse?

>>1424388
You forgot the useless punitive tariffs

>>1424385
There's nothing stopping you from buying stocks
>>1424388
We've been in a recession for the past five years. No one gives a fuck

So, in other words, the Stock Market is done "crashing"

>>1424496
Yes. The "Trump 1% Stock Market Crash of 2025" will forever go down in history books as a massive nothingburger

>>1424412
>We've been in a recession for the past five years. No one gives a fuck
Not with job numbers this low nor tariffs this retarded. If you thought things were bad before...

>>1424499
Its definitely going to be a footnote next to creating 20% of the total national debt, starting a global recession, and firing everyone that reports on reality instead of his feelings

>>1424379 (OP)
It's still hasn't recovered from when he took office.
https://www.tipranks.com/index/dow-jones
>6 Month Price Returns-2.80%

>>1424513
Remember when we lost years worth of growth as he took office? Good times.

>>1424519
To be fair it'd be hard for him to match the losses of his first term when he botched the US covid response. At least that isn't likely to happen again.

>>1424513
>S&P500 - YTD +8%
Thank you MR PRESIDENT Donald J Trump

>>1424529
Is this a bot?

>>1424530
transitively, but it uses a human to actually post

>>1424496
The stock market (equities) will keep going "up" as the US dollar weakens. Corporations that do business internationally will have more dollars and be worth more dollars, because dollars are now worth less relative to other currencies that get converted to dollars. I probably don't need to explain why this (weaker USD) isn't great for the typical American consumer in 2025.

And despite Democrats best efforts, the economy continues to improve.

>>1424598
>looks at jobs
>no jobs
>looks at prices in grocery stores
>going up
>"But hey the stock market is doing slightly better! This matters to so much of the population!"

>>1424610
There are jobs everywhere. You being a lazy fuck doesn't change that.

>>1424622
>Looks at job rate
>literally less than 20k jobs in the last month for the entire country
You keep telling yourself that.

>>1424598
>>1424622
What is it you think democrats are doing to stymie job growth and who told you they were doing it?

>>1424629
The unemployment rate is 4.2%. I don't know what this "job rate" you keep referencing is but you're either making it up or using it wrong.

>>1424636
The democrats oppose literally everything the Trump admin does and they brag about doing it openly. What is it you think asking those questions was going to accomplish?

>>1424638
>The democrats oppose literally everything the Trump admin does and they brag about doing it openly.
this is because the Trump admin fucking sucks. We got fake accomplishments, multiple industries getting decimated, DOGE was so shit at its job it wound up wasting 20 billion instead of saving anything, more debt in one bill than 2 years of Biden, foreign relations in the toilet, and open corruption on every level of government. Even Trump's only "accomplishment" in immigration has become a rapid money pit with ICE receiving more funding than some military branches only to STILL miss quotas along with multiple violated civil rights because they keep focusing on deporting people here legally instead of actual gang members.

>>1424638
>The democrats oppose literally everything the Trump admin does
What's the difference when they have no power to do anything meaningful?
>What is it you think asking those questions was going to accomplish?
What I really want to know is who gave you the idea that powerless Democrats were the problem with Trump's agenda?

>>1424641
>>1424644
4.2%

The job market is doing fine. The sky isn't falling, chicken little.

>>1424744
>economy in shambles due to arbitrary tariffs
>international goodwill at lowest point in 100 years
>people marching and protesting every week against the totalitarian regime in charge
>massive brain drain in government and academia
>consumer price increases further exacerbating the income divide
"Everything is fine" says the little cartoon dog as the house burns down around him.

>>1424744
Less than 20k increase in a month, with projections that next month will be outright negative in terms of growth, is not 'doing fine'.

Americans imagined a socioeconomic crisis into existence, voting in an imaginary version of Trump to fix it, only for real Trump to give the country an actual socioeconomic crisis.

>>1424825
it's the civic version of hurting yourself in your confusion. americans don't watch much schoolhouse rock these days

>>1424745
>Economy experiencing growing pains while tariffs bring back jobs from overseas.
>europoors mad America us sick of being taken advantage off
>idiot lefties protest illegal aliens being deported get themselves shit and/or arrested by feds
>part of point one

4.2%. Anyone that doesn't have a job, doesn't want one. You aren't fooling anyone

>>1424829
you're a good little boy aren't you

>>1424829
>Guys it's just growing pains
>Just ignore how the jobs aren't actually coming back

>>1424831
>>1424832
So, no argument then? I accept your concessions.

>>1424829
>Anyone that doesn't have a job, doesn't want one.
The labor force participation rate is the lowest it's been since the 70s, back when men were the only people expected to work. Welfare and fentanyl made America lazy
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

>>1424841
No jobs are coming back, in fact these tariffs are hurting our domestic industries. Turns out it's hard to build stuff in America when the necessary materials needed to make them can't be imported from overseas because Trump put a bajillion percent tariff on everything. No we can't just extract them here because we don't have them.

>>1424843
Nope. 4.2% you can pretend you don't see it all you want but any labor market with a >5% unemployment rate is considered to have full employment. Stop trying to gaslight everyone.

>>1424844
That's a bald faced lie. Stop trying to conflate doesn't with can't. Lithium is the only thing America needs to import.

>>1424845
>Guys we're ONLY a few decimal points away from an unemployment crisis, stop gaslighting us!
>Guys we're about to be in a new Golden Age for America any second now I SWEAR!

you know who else had a a great stock market and low unemployment? biden.

>>1424849
Dark Brandon strikes again!

Blue MAGA can't stop winning

>>1424846
>https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/employment-by-industry-monthly-changes.htm
And yet, 28k manufacturing jobs and 4k mining jobs have been lost in the last six months. Even ignoring inputs (lithium isn't even the only one, coffee is a good example), why would anyone set up their manufacturing in the US when labour is going to be far more expensive? It'd be far cheaper to manufacture something abroad and ship it to the US through countries with low tariffs like the UK or others that have exceptions on certain materials.

>>1424858
Orrrrrr. Americans buy domestic manufactured products that haven't been tariffed twice from playing stupid border hopping games. Almost as though the entire point of tariffs is to protect domestic markets from third world slave labor. Trump told everyone getting the economy straightened out was a long term fix and there would be rough patches, meanwhile the media predicts impending disaster at every bump in the road and you're over here doing the market analysis equivalent of noticing that the days are getting hotter and insisting we have to build underground bunkers because the surface temp of the Earth will boil water in a few months while everyone else realizes it's just summer.

>>1424895
>Americans buy domestic manufactured products
You mean the domestic products that cost 2-5x as much to make? Even if they're cheaper, which they're never, domestic manufacturers are going to raise their prices as well if all of their competition have to raise their price. Why wouldn't they take advantage of the situation?

>tariffed twice from playing stupid border hopping games
Are do you have down syndrome? If China ships something to the UK for "final assembly" which it turn ships it to US, why would it be tariffed twice? A tariff only applies to the US importer buying a good from the UK. It's called tariff engineering.

>everyone else realizes it's just summer.
>https://www.cfr.org/blog/92-percent-trumps-china-tariff-proceeds-has-gone-bail-out-angry-farmers
People are making these predictions because Trump's tariffs failed miserably during his first term. Why the fuck is are they going to work now when the policy is even more retarded?

>>1424905
Because raising your price IS NOT taking advantage of the situation. Thanks for admitting you're just stupid.
>Are do

Esl shill wants to be a real white boy.

>>1424908
>ignoring everything else to focus on simple mistake

>raising your price IS NOT taking advantage of the situation
>X sells imported apples for $10; Y sells locally grown apples for $15
>because of a tariff, X now sells apples for $20
What does Y do in this situation? The obvious answer is he raises his own price to $18-19 to capitalize on the tariff.

>>1424908
>ignoring everything else to focus on a simple mistake

>raising your price IS NOT taking advantage of the situation
>X sells imported apples for $10; Y sells locally grown apples for $15
>because of a tariff, X now sells apples for $20
What does Y do in this situation? The obvious answer is he raises his own price to $18-19 to capitalize on the tariff.

>>1424910
No you colossal fucking dunce. You sell your locally grown apples for $15 because you will take a larger share of the market, and have greater profits by selling mire units! Thanks for admitting you don't get econ 201. Now go sit in the corner.

>>1424917
If there is no competition at your price range most businesses are going to increase price you fucking dunce.

>>1424917
Any price less than the competitor will get you the entire market with completely substitutable goods. If anything, anon is being generous with the 18-19$ figure; it's far more likely the domestic importer, if the importer charges $20, will price at $19.90 in response. You can get a greater profit margin by selling fewer goods for more, so you'll sell fewer goods for more. Pass Econ 302 and then we'll talk.

>>1424910
And that $19 stays in the US economy as taxable wages, revenue and reinvestment.

>>1424934
>Guys rising prices are good actually

>>1424940
>You're going to have to pay more if we get rid of the slave labor

>>1424944
Voluntary wage labor is not equivalent to slavery.

>>1424922
>>1424927
Nah. Be less stupid.

Why yes, the stock market is, indeed, done crashing. Good news!

I wonder why all the dem shills have abandoned this thread?

I wouldn't worry about the market, it'll fluctuate but isn't gonna tumble down, everything is being used to prop it up already. If it crashed everything would crash because we are an economy driven world because our nation's demand it because our leaders demand it. You are slaves, Neo. You will be sacrificed before a rich man will be shorted a penny past his lustful eye. Bear the truth, be a sacrifice for the cause of greed and laziness or be a hero of freedom. Break dem chains, boys.

>>1426193
esl shill

>>1424412
>There's nothing stopping you from buying stocks
Yeah but he reaaaaalllly needed to buy that brand new Ford Raptor on a 72mo loan and bought (with a 0% down) mortgage on a 500k house in a wealthy suburb, now he's not paid enough to afford to live, let alone get the 3% company match on his 401k and it's not fair.