Thread 28465401

>“Eighty-five percent of truck buyers finance for seven years or more. They keep it for 12 years because everything’s gotten more expensive,” Ram CEO Tim Kuniskis said during a media event. “But you know what hasn’t changed? No one has changed the warranty. They’re investing more and more and more money in your brand, but you’re not investing more money to protect them.”

FUCKING WHY?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/18/ram-pickup-truck-warranty.html

Because suburban amerimutts are retarded and desperate to leap as "rural roughnecks" as they drive to Costco

>>28465420
>only rural rednecks can use this machine
Euro mind cannot comprehend

>>28465420
*flyoverlet suburbanites
Everyone drives cuvs in actual suburbs

>>28465401 (OP)
>>28465420
https://youtu.be/KH2NLHpudQ4?si=hzCD46c1zIXTlxLQ

>>28465420
can you imagine a suburban homeowner having a use for a truck?

>>28465401 (OP)
Because the economic foundation of the country is eroded by welfares and social securities and its only going to get worse.
Its fine and dandy for a country's backbone to be "soft" services like finance and software with hard exports being oil, food, and some high tech. It's even fine for a country to have a large trade deficit. The money still has to make sense.

We've been inflating our currency to manage debt payment without managing the debt for over 50 years now.
84 month loans, 6% interest, 50-70k trucks most of these people use as a social symbol, trying to float thous to tens of thous debt on top of it. 54% of americans are a net negative to federal income.
Somethings gotta give and if it dont it collapses.

https://youtu.be/e53lnRW48uE
>and to be fair,
>I don't fucking care
>fuck the government I want my money

>>28465428
I dont think you understand. The market for new trucks is IT mid managers living in a 2000 sq ft house on a 2500 sq ft lot. No one claimed they were rural or rednecks

>>28465428
What parking lot do you want me to go take a picture of? I can guarantee the amount of pickups won't be higher than like 20% if that

>>28465438
IT nerds drive wrxs and teslas though

>>28465420
Are you not supposed to drive ??
The modern pickup truck is luxury vehicle

>>28465439
>bay area BMW beaner
Holy shit no one cares

>>28465443
Why do they have such shitty interiors amd are mostly slow as fuck then? Mostly

>>28465438
Maybe IT middle managers need the truck for his hobbies or lifestyle outside of work. Maybe a ute would have been fine but he bought a half ton just because. You don’t know.

>>28465435
I am a suburban homeowner and I need a truck for several jobs and I will have to borrow one.

Might even get a cyber truck for it who knows. But yes, in America everyone owns land and needs stuff moved.

>>28465446
>everyone in murica drives pickup trucks prove me wrong!!!
>nooo not like that!!!
>chevelle malibus are BMWs!!!
Kek cry pussy

>>28465450
Delusional

>>28465439
you must not live in the south or midwest.

>>28465442
all the project "managers" in their 40s or older all drive huge suvs or trucks here. even better if they're electric

>>28465452
*flyoverlet suburbanites

>>28465460
See >>28465433

>>28465453
Embarrassed you were so easily outed? You live in a bubble you retarded faggot, the best selling car in California for the longest time was the Toyota Camry when it was the Ford F-150 in almost every other state. California is not indicative of literally anything relating to the other 49 states. Not home prices, not demographics, not homosexual household percentages, not per capita of annoying BMW dickheads.

>>28465443
>pick ups are luxury vehicles
Do Americans really believe this?

>>28465488
>nooo California isn't in murica!!!
Outed as what?
Way out here on the West Coast, almost nobody drives pickups. I don't see why that wouldn't be different in any other suburb/city
truck numbers are mostly from fleet sales. Mostly

>>28465450
you dont have hobbies or a "lifestyle" if you live in a new build mcmansion

>>28465534
>spaces before punctuation
>strange conjugation
You're talking to a euro, son

>>28465554
>mindbroken euro seethes at the american in his big house with his big trugg and his fat wife and obese golden retriever

>>28465563
yuros dont say "mcmansion" they usually say "cardboard house". Which is retarded because their houses are stick built now too
Irregardlessly, you have to be a woman or a certified retard to buy a new build. In either case its someone who doesnt own tools

>>28465401 (OP)
umm /o/ told me truck buyers were actually extremely wealthy and buy trucks in cash or they finance them at 5% because it's actually very smart financially to do this because stocks return 7% and they're actually MAKING MONEY by financing a truck????

>>28465420
You do know you can use them for both right? Plenty of things are better with a decent truck so might as well pick one up even if you only use it like once a month

>>28465442
Fifteen years ago.

>>28465945
>buying bottled water because his tap water isn't safe to consume
>putting it in a pick up truck
>coping hard about it
A normal car with an optional trailer for large goods mogs your truck in cost, comfort, fuel efficiency, top speed, handling, styling and practicality.

>>28465401 (OP)
They finance over 7 years but change every 3.

>>28465957
Bottled water is move for roadtrips like now. The sheer versatility of a truck is hard to match as it is move to dd as long as you are ok with like 20mpg.
>cost
Average vehicle cost is like 50k nowadays and that gets you a decent half ton, this doesn’t take into account tax breaks if you have a business.
>comfort
They are very nice to be in with LWB and nice tires, material is dependent on spec.
>fuel efficiency
Meh, cost of robust drivetrain
>speed, handling
Idc as I’m not treating it as a race car on the street.
>styling
Subjective
>practicality
Very practical for lots

2008 killed the economic dream of most Americans so they need 1 car that can "do everything" and a bloated work truck can do that.

Why does anyone care. You guys are all stupid

>>28465420
eyyo shut yo mouth bitch nigguh I be crusin down tha street with mad rep in muh trugg

>>28466010
Because it is a fairly big announcement that Ram effectively stated that because no one can afford a car that they will provide a warranty for 10 years/100k miles. It means that cars will never be affordable and to compensate companies will just agree to repair them for longer

>>28465420
NOOOO I NEED IT! I NEED TO BE 30K UNDERWATER ON A CAR LOAN BECAUSE... BECAUSE I JUST DO OK!!!!!!

>>28466031
But joneses across the street got the new Raptor R and I NEED the TRX otherwise people will think I'm POOR

>>28465990
>>28465945
>trying to show why he needs a work vehicle
>has no images of it doing work

>>28465401 (OP)
Why do Americans like to finance depreciating assets like cars that they clearly cannot afford for a long period and risk negative equity? Wouldnt it just be better to buy things with cash or buy something cheaper/finance less expensive cars? How do Americans sleep well at night when they could literally end up on the street with purchases like this if the economy goes for a coaster ride again? I've not seen this kind of spending behavior in most other countries. And for some reason it is affecting Europeans too, specifically middle eastern guys in Europe who finance their expensive bmw/golf gti/audi/mb and end up bankrupt.

>>28466041
How does it feel to be blind and dumb?

>>28466045
Buying in cash is a mixed bag and leasing is bad unless you don't want to own a car. The truth is to finance low cost and invest the rest

>>28466050
That would fit in a hatch back.
>>28466045
Because they're retarded, anon. They only exist to generate money, weapons and soldiers for Israel.

>>28466054
And the livestock trailer?

>>28466057
This may shock you but cars have tow hitches. I know this is hard to comprehend for you.

>>28466058
You are absolutely delusional

>>28466060
Do you think Muh Trugg is the only vehicle capable of towing? Do Americans really believe this?

>>28466058
Damn doesn’t this dumbass beside me know he can just use his fiesta for that???

>>28466062
Cars are deceptively light freight. Most cars have the capacity to tow themselves; car haulers are significantly lighter than liquid haulers.

Basically any SUV can tow 2 cars lol.

>>28466061
Americans can't drive so they had their towing privileges taken away.

>>28466064
No bro you dont understand I NEED to daily drive a dually a F450 to tow my buddies Civic once a year.

>>28466052
Maybe I'm retarded but investment with what money? Financing actually makes sense if you had say 70k$ in cash to buy a car and decided to do a 20k down with a finance and put the rest into an index fund or something. These people didnt have anything to begin with, otherwise they wouldnt take out 7 year long loans.

>>28466061
Blame the 1970 oil crisis which lead to shitty fuel regulations that eventually lead to trucks/SUVs turning into the everycar

>>28466064
I mean it’s not super heavy but it’s still like 10k behind ya and American trucks are well built for it. We are expected to go up mountains at 70 mph with no issues. I like watching retards use smaller SUVs like the maverick chassis and they are obviously not having a good time.

>>28466068
>buying any vehicle above 35k
No you retard, you put a little down on a car in the 15-35k range pay monthly, then invest any additional in a money market account instead of dropping over 15k on a car. Jesus is /o/ this financially retarded enough to drop more that 15k on a car while making less than 200k/yr?

>>28466073
Anon the average american makes 45k a year and buys a 100k truck

>>28466074
Exactly, so /o/ is that retarded when the usesld market gets those same vehicles for half the price

>>28465438
>>28465439
You're missing the point. I don't have to have a desire to appear rural or redneck to want or drive a truck. It's a machine anyone can go buy and use for whatever they want. This is what the Euro mind cannot comprehend.

>>28466045
>depreciating assets like cars
I don’t get this mentality. people aren’t buying cars to flip them, they buy them to use them. more expensive cars are more capable and or more comfortable, so they spend more for those qualities.

>>28466073
The context of the question was about those ram truck buyers. Those cars average 50-70k. I feel extremely confused on how they are supposed to invest as many people justify financing bad purchases. I get it for cheaper cars, but these and I assume the majority of Americans are not doing that.

>>28466085
In that case, yes it is hard to justify financing that at all. Really any new car that is not something actually special is retarded in the new market

>>28465401 (OP)
>pickup truck drivers are retarded
since the dawn of time nigga how are you confused

>>28466080
>It's a machine anyone can go buy
"buying" via a 7 year credit plan

>>28466093
Better than being a rentoid, atleast you are building some kind of equity

>>28466093
Or I can go buy the used F250 6.7l 4x4. 1 minute of search picrel. I'm not posting about dumb financial decisions, you are, I'm posting that if I wanted a big truck I can go buy one regardless of what I intend to do with it because you're a euro and can't comprehend.

>>28466074
no they don’t

>>28466094
>Equity
A depreciated asset is hardly worth the risk of being underwater on a loan for most people.

>>28466100
Less dangerous with trucks as they don’t depreciate like rocks

>>28465957
Proper multi stage filters that actually give clean water are priced at a point where the upfront cost and lifetime of filter replacements do not balance out against the equivalent volume of bottled water. Because "capitalism"

With that said all these people in the past decade who lived to late 80s or older, high motherfucking chance they drank nothing but municipal supply water their entire lives. Leaded pipes back in the day, questionable delivered quality, before EPA even had regulations and controls.

>>28466064
>most cars have the capacity to tow themselves
On flat ground at 20mph when it's 35 degrees outside, maybe. Try it driving normally and you'll overheat, burn your trans, and lmao good luck going downhill. Not to mention the frame and suspension abuse.
If a car is rated for 1k tow that's because the rear frame can't handle any more than that.

>>28466161
Have you ever driven a car? This is embarrassing

>>28466188
Have you ever towed anything of any worth?

>>28466188
I have a car with a v6, rated for 1k tow. Same engine and trans goes into promaster 3500s. My car weighs 3600. GVWR 4600. Promaster weighs 5 grand and tows 6. My car is not a promaster 3500. My car isnt built like a 3500.

What I dont have is the radiator or rad capacity, trans cooler, better brakes, suspension made for that weight, and chassis built for it.
I could hook 5 thou to my ass, crush the suspension, fry the trans and damage my frame.

But you go ahead and try it and let us know.

>>28465534
>has never sat in an upper trim truck like a Denali
Silence Europoor

>>28466274
They look cheap to me. A really rather gauche perception of luxury, built to a price point.

>>28466278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkNSn9w09Hk
your average european luxury car for comparison.

>>28466274
I drive a Mercedes, sorry about that lead in your water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4FbEvt-Ec
mercedes luxury car for comparison

>>28466287
>mercedes
Oh no

>>28466287
My water is cleaner than yours.
My air is cleaner than yours.
My nature is more bountiful than yours.
My wallet is fatter than yours.
Enjoy your faggy electrical gremlin infested Mercedes.

>>28466284
I assume that you believe that I like them, but no. BMW is a lifestyle brand of no real quality.

>tfw caught truck fever and can't stop thinking about buying a $60k F150 and fucking over myself for 5 years

after borrowing my dad's pickup for a few days, I get it. the road presence, the comfort, the attention from girls and MILFs alike

>>28466305
>americans truly believe this

>>28466291
>here's your truck interior bro
>its all plastic but we put the Big Boy Truck logo everywhere in chrome to remind you what a special boy you are
>also you shift with the dial that's right next to the radios volume dial
What a wonderful luxury vehicle, time to go $90,000 in to debt for it and ruin my life for 7+ years.

>>28466389
Holy shit my 10 year old honda has a nicer interior

>>28466389
Works for me, as long as it’s leather with heated and cooled seats. Physical knobs for stuff and the screen isn’t in the way too much. I do prefer having a soft touch dash tho, good luck with that 50k interior!

>>28466399
>truck owner
>filthy interior
>on his phone while driving
>despite being hideously in debt for it
You're right, the Euro mind cant comprehend this.

>>28466405
Oh no not dirt anything but that! That one is paid off now. Been paid off for years at this point.

>>28466409
So its over 7 years old?

>>28466015
>former owner posing in front of his recently repossessed suv at the bank parking lot
>colorized 2026

>>28466411
Just turned 7 but it’s been paid for 3 years.

>>28466386
I've traveled around both the US and Europe. The shitholes in Europe are much worse than the US and the best parts of the US are much better. Also, we actually still have nature here.

Truck?

>>28465401 (OP)
Seven years??? 4 years is dumb af since you end up paying twice for it but most do it for 7?? Wtf

trruk

>>28466411
LMAO

>>28465401 (OP)
>FUCKING WHY?

People are stupid and they want to look rich so they finance a stupidly expensive vehicle that they can't afford and put them into a permanent state of debt rather than just buying an old used truck.

At this point it seems like most new car sales are either fleet sales, the very rich, or complete retards.

Truk thred?

>>28466425
I went to America and every underpass had a homeless tent city under it. Someone tried to sell me cocaine, and I had to change hotels because someone got murdered.

>>28466436
yeh truk fer trucc stuff

>>28466438
Come on that's not fair. Its only like that in New York city. And Philly. And Vegas. And Seattle. And Houston. And the entirety of California, and every other major population center. If you go in to nature where there are no Americans, America is really nice.

>>28466448
The key takeaway is to stay away from minorities, just like any place in the world.

>>28466441

Unironically yes. I think if there's any vehicle you can get away with looking like a beater its a pickup truck. If you've got a sports car or a sedan that's beat to shit people assume you're a poor yobo; but with a truck they assume you've got work to do.

>>28466452
Where can I go in America that actually has white people?

>>28466453
That is precisely what it is for, and it hasn't let me down yet (knocking on wood) - I hauled 3,000lbs of dirt with a broken (now replaced) shackle the other day, and it did a fine job.

>>28466438
Lies they would have tried to sell you fent. Also, what you described is still better than a lot of your shitholes.
>>28466456
Maine, Idaho, Montana. Fuck off we're full though.

>>28466456
Northeast, Midwest, northwest, Alaska

Didn't think I had the pic on my PC with the dirt.
Probably my last truk stuf pic without digging.

>>28466460
>>28466466
They're all mixed race though?

>>28466474
They consider them white. I'm serious.

>>28466474
how is that any different than europe.

>>28466474
So the same as any European country, you can find enclaves spread across the states that are very white, generally in the northern latitudes as blacks can’t handle the sub zero temperatures

>>28466482
They dont fuck the niggers to make mullato mutts.

>>28466491
except your entire formula one motorsports is worshiping just that action.

>>28466482
>>28466489
>NOOO YOU'RE A GENETIC DEAD END JUST LIKE ME!!! I CANT BE THE ONLY BROWN SKIN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
kek

>>28466493
Hamilton has more class than just about everyone on this site.

>>28465420
youropepoora are so pathetic, mind your own business ahmed

>>28466459
Love the aqua colour on your truck. Thing of beauty.

>>28466468
Nice color. Kind of wish I found a 4x4, but this one was a really good deal.

>>28466585
why are there two fuel tanks???

based OBS anons

>>28466588
extra range (460 gets 10 mpg lol) and for whatever reason they didn't or couldn't do one bigger tank. Front is 18 gal rear is 19 gal (some previous owner removed mine) IIRC

seethe eurocuck /n/igger

Reminder: this is what would happen if you ever decided to stop bitching about trucks you can't afford online

>>28466664
Bikers fault

>>28465401 (OP)
the best part is where they get cucked by a dude driving a twingo

>>28466728
you /r/ang?

>>28465401 (OP)
that front grill looks like AI generated slop

>>28466664
>t.

>>28466664
What is it with brown skins and murdering other brown skins for no reason, and then bragging about ?

>>28466795
>gets utterly clobbered by a PT cruiser driver
So that's why they carry guns

>>28466588
Guess as good as ours.
>>28466641
I have 351, mpg ain't that great. Swear it's still ~11mpg. Heard it's about the same for 302 and 300s. Still surprised every time I floor it and the 351 gives the power.

>>28466436
>rather than just buying an old used truck.
Those are expensive too, because those same retards decided to flood the market when they realized they either wanted the image or couldn't afford the new truck.

>>28466926
That's why they call 'em the PT Bruiser.
>>28466924
If I recall, he was a pajeet and immediately got redeemed. Reincarnated back to India after the spirits realized what ACK'd into the lower astral realms.

>>28466562
Thanks, I picked it up cheap looking for a manual, not considering color. It wouldn't have been what I'd have picked if I could have chose but it's grown on me and I like it now & wouldn't change it now.
>>28466585
Thanks, that dark blue is nice too. I lucked out, at the time we were either renting a U-haul that day, or I was finding a truck. I lucked out & found it, I6, 5 speed, 4x4, I paid $1200 just before covid stuff.
>>28466641
I like the white on these, one of my neighbors used to have a manual diesel in white and I always liked that. Idk what kind of mpg I get, but I feel it's not much better than that - my fuel gauges have never worked properly.

>>28466795
>pic rel calling anyone a truckold

why are small car faggots so delusional?

>>28467164
Why do you have interacial pornography saved to your phone, anon?

>>28467126
>nearly bald front tires
really completes the poor white trash aesthetic

Best defense against truckolds is to drive a fancy German car.

"Hurr, law of the jungle, the biggest always come out on top, out of my way... oh shit is that a Mercedes-Benz? Oh shit oh shit oh shit. NOOOOOO MY 10,000LB HUNK OF JUNK CAN'T STOP IN TIME. WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY PREMIUMS ARE TRIPLING? YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!"

>>28467126
>I lucked out & found it, I6, 5 speed, 4x4, I paid $1200 just before covid stuff.
That's a keeper dude. Which 5sp? M5OD or the ZF?

>>28465435
Suburban as in post 2000 commute houses in the middle of farmland nowhere without a store in town?

>>28466427
I like ur blue wheels

>>28466641
Why do you have so much ground clearance?

>>28466405
>complains when trucks are too clean
>complains when trucks are too dirty

>>28467335
not a ford guy but this is by far the best looking f150 gen to me

>>28465437
>Because the economic foundation of the country is eroded by welfares and social securities and its only going to get worse.
Categorical nonsense. There is never a shortage of money. The US has theoretically unlimited money. As Alan Greenspan himself said under oath to Congress: "There is nothing that stops the US government from creating as much money as it wants and giving it to someone."

The real issue is whether the physical resources someone would buy with that cash will be produced and exist in sufficient numbers. Is there going to be enough lumber, meat, natural gas, etc. If you have 10 guys in timber harvesting machines that can do the work of what used to be 1000 guys, is this actually a monetary problem? No, it isn't.

>>28467337
That's just how 4x4 OBS 350s are. Those are stock size tires too, 235/85R16. It probably looks like more than a modern truck because I'm pretty sure like 18-20" is standard for wheels now. Also proportionally modern truck bodies are pigfat. The bottom of that denali lines up with the center of its wheels, the bottom of my trucks body is higher than the top of the wheel and therefore sits higher

>>28467381
Sorry that the truth hurts your feelings.
Well I'm not. It's sorry that the truth hurts your feelings.

>>28467174
that image isn't interracial porn, retard.

>>28467208
>he thinks his old money pit is a "fancy car"

>>28467337
Why do you have such a small bed?

>>28467208
nothing says "i'm broke" like driving something that'll lose more than half its value the moment you drive it off the lot while the truck will be worth double what the german car will be 10 years from now.

Truckold waste their money on debt and repairs and gas. For oversized quadbike. LOL GAY. No woman want you because you are fat and stupid and you don't have money for real things.

>>28465401 (OP)
Get rid of the stupid chicken tax, get rid of the fucking EPA regulations that piece of shit Obama placed, get trucks affordable for everyone, including the people that really need them for everyday duty not just weekends/holidays

>>28467649
You could just as easily argue that nothing says broke like needing to consider depreciation.

>>28467587
Fair, its not interracial for you, specifically.

>>28465401 (OP)
>n-no, I swear most pickup truck drivers are rich cash only buyers!

>>28467675
Nope. Luxury tucks have excellent profit margins. If they cut all that tax prices would probably stay around the same.

>>28467811
Yeah I'm loving every bit of that excerpt showing that, the emperor indeed has no clothes.

>>28467649
Why was my 2015 911 listed for $89,999 on the lot in 2023 with over 30,000 miles on it? It was sold brand new for $115,000.

>>28467823
Cause Porsche snobs are very very weird. This does not apply to other luxury cars. You could suck off the dealer and get a great spec allotment and sell it for more than MSRP if you wanted to.

>>28467837
That world has passed us by. Even the Porsche bubble has popped.

>>28467677
>haha, he considered a quality product that's expected to last and holds value as a result? he's poor
i mean, not really.

>>28466020
Hyundai has been doing a 10 year / 100k warranty for a while now. Truggs are just catching up to what gooks have been doing for over a decade.

>>28466085
90% of those buyers have no need for a truck and should just swallow their ego and get a civic/accord/cr-v.
For the 10% who actually need a truck, yeah they’re just fucked.

>>28468250
Why should somebody spend $50k on a crossover instead of spending $50k on a truck? The truck is better in every way and has a much higher resale value.

>>28467205
It wore the outside out, the inner 80% had like 8/10, the outer had 1-2/10, I took em off the rims and flipped em, all gud now. They're all wearing out now though I'm probably going to buy a fresh matching set of cheap a/t's
>>28467222
I only expected it to last me 1-2 years, but I've had it close to 5 now. Had to replace front brake lines a few years ago & just had to replace a rear shackle (PITA).
I couldn't tell you, unless you could tell me something that sets them apart
>>28467335
Thanks, I bought them for $80 with two good tread tires & 2 bad ones, kept the good tread and swapped over my good 2 from my old rims. Cleaned up the chrome & gave it another coat of blue clear coat on the worn old paint.

>>28468295
One of the rims was rusted through and leaking too, I tried to weld it from the outside but it was in the crease and I couldn't get to it well enough to be air tight. I ended up taking the tire off and welding it from the inside for much better access, airtight. With the added metal on the one side I added a steel wheel weight on the opposite side

>>28468264
You don’t have to spend $50k on a crossover though.

>>28465401 (OP)
>>28465420
>You don't need a pickup truck. You don't haul 25,000 tons of farm equipment around daily.
>You don't need a minivan. You don't have 7 kids who need to all sit in the car at the same time.
>You don't need a station wagon. You don't carry long tables in the back more than once every 5 years.
>You don't need a hatchback. Your groceries can fit in the back seat.
>You don't need an EV that can go 0-60 in 4 seconds. You don't have any roads around you that have a speed limit of more than 45.
>You don't need a BMW that can top out at 220 mph. You'll never drive at that speed, EVER.
>You don't need a Mini with a leather interior. Your hands are too scuffed to appreciate the feeling.
>You don't need a Ford with four doors. You drive alone.
>You don't need a two-door Wrangler. You never offroad.
>You don't need a car. You're too pathetic.

>>28465401 (OP)
>7 year finance
unfortunate
>owning it for 12 years
that's pretty sensible desu. should be longer but this isn't a financial mistake.