If I wanted to buy a NEW car in 2025, and my ONLY concern was owner repairability, what would I get?

a motorcycle

a 2024 civic sport with a manual, they're gone for 2025-on

>>28474064 (OP)

Miata.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICIiuGhdQX8

>>28474064 (OP)
An old car

>>28474087
Fpbp

>>28474064 (OP)
Miata
Is
Always
The
Answer

>>28474121
Fuck that

All the new gadgets and gizmos in an even smaller package? Nah I don't have 10mm fingers. In order to wrench yourself you have to be a midget jap in the first place. No way anyone fits under the dash for more than 30sexonds

>>28474064 (OP)
If my ONLY concern was owner repairability, it would be an old car, like a Lada Niva Legend or that Azeri Peugeot 405 clone. If I wanted something repairable with a bit of fun, I would probably do the new Niva Sport.

>>28474064 (OP)

Base F150 with the modular V8?

>>28474220
It's either a Niva or some UAZ 4x4 monstrosity

>>28474220
>>28474267
>repairability
>not only the parts are of bad quality
>they are in the other hemisphere of the globe
>with logistics affected by the sanctions
Five-digit ICQ move

>>28474064 (OP)
Something commercial
This bad boy is what, 25 years old now?

A Nisan versa with a manual transmission.

>>28474295
Eh? I can get parts from my local parts store no problem.
The parts are made in Europe and are of good enough quality for the money.

>>28474220
>>28474267
>>28474309

>slow
>unreliable
>badly made

no one civilized world wants russian scrap metal

>>28474322
>slow
>unreliable
>easy to fix
The last bit is important.

>>28474322
Perfection

>>28474332

>scrap metal collector

>>28474337
Yes, I pull bottom dollar shitheaps from swamps and "restore" them to pass inspection.

>>28474342

>third world hobbies

>>28474345
Finland is now 1st world, joined nato not that long ago

>>28474309
>The parts are made in Europe
But not in your country and not in the trade/customs agreement area your country is a part of, so that's hardly relevant. Logistics is a bitch.
>>28474329
Idk man I moved from Ladas to foreign-made cars long ago and found out they are even easier to fix, especially if you avoid more complicated designs. Parts are of better quality (buying OEM-grade basically guarantees you trouble-free experience), the catalogs and diagnostic/repair manuals are more precise.

>>28474362
Uhh, I don't pay any import duties or customs for parts from germany or belgium.
I just replaced most of my front suspension bits and wheel bearings, almost all the parts were "made in germany" so maybe your claim of bad parts quality has some truth to it.

>>28474347

ivan what are u doing in finland

>>28474380
I don't even know anymore, I've lost the plot

>>28474383

>thread about what new car to buy in 2025
>ivan from finland posts overpriced scrap metal for russia
>no one interested
>pikachu face '' I lost plot''

/o/ is about cars , not scrap metal

>>28474427
There just isn't sny fitting OPs bill anymore. A new Niva is pretty much the closest thing to q repairable car in 2025.

>>28474436
>A new Niva
But can you buy it finnbro?

>>28474456
Yeah, albeit Delta Auto, old Konela who impirted Soviet stuff, no longer impirts them, but you can find them every now and then.
https://m.mobile.de/auto-inserat/lada-niva-legend-prem-plus-klima-sitzheiz-m%C3%BCncheberg/427665456.html?cn=DE&ref=srp&refId=9587f74f-7f79-f535-9aad-8ac41a8d2252&searchId=9587f74f-7f79-f535-9aad-8ac41a8d2252&type=ad

Here's one from Germany, you can just drive it home because EU.

>>28474480
>you can just drive it home because EU
What about getting FIN plates?

>>28474436
>>28474427
Ivanski Turunen is right all the newer western cars are hopeless because of self-inflicted retardation. Russia is too poor to afford such retardation in the first place.
reminds me of Royal Enfield, (british brand, went bust but their jeet branch kept making the same old designs until old became "retro"). Used to have absolutely dogshit quality and reliability. Recently they went way up in quality but kept the simple design. Great repairability, even for a motorcycle.
I don't know if Ivan's cars are built well or badly but I bet they are designed 1000 times more reliably than a modern beemer or whatever

>>28474484
Go to the local inspection office, show them documents of the car, pay them 10 bucks for plates, 110 bucks for registration inspection and pay 25% tip for the government bloodsuckers

>>28474064 (OP)
>what would I get?
disappointed

Toyota camry

>>28474436
be careful in rural finland, they are nazis and dont like russians out there

>>28474297
Love these things I hope they keep going forever

>>28474115
Based K20C Civics

>>28474667
Scratch the rural part.

>>28474667
Not just Russians, but swedes, americans, brits, french, the guys from the town over, the faggots from the capital.
People in rural Finland hate everyone equally.

>>28474952
>Scratch the rural part.
I dunno, the cities do have some brown people (though far fewer than Sweden) and socialists who've either inherited their boomer parents' ideas or are boomers themselves, still reminiscing about that one time they went to St. Petersburg 40 years ago on a commie international friendship trip.
Both groups seem to have their share of blyatoid apologists.

>>28475010
Ironically the big city commies are more rabid about their anti-Russian autism, the rural Finns really don't give a shit in the end who or what you are, they'll bully you anyway until you learn your place, then they'll take you in and accept you anyway.

>>28474064 (OP)
Nissan Versa
Super basic 4 cylinder econobox still available in a manual transmission.

Jeep Wrangler
Body on frame solid axel 4x4. The 3.6 pentastar is pretty reliable. It's the same v6 dodge used in the base challenger/charger. It's easy to wrench on and they've been around for 12 years in millions of different cars so parts availability likely won't dry up anytime soon. Also still available in manual if that matters to you.

Ford Mustang
They have huge screens and more tech now so that might be a turn off but the 5.0 coyote engine has proven to be very solid, very mod friendly and there is enough of an aftermarket that DIY self service stuff likely won't be a huge issue. Again, one of the few cars left that you can still get with a stick.

Those are my three picks for brand new cars that should be fairly good in terms of self service and repair. That's one econobox, one SUV/offroader and one sports car. You can take your pick of what appeals to you the most.

>>28474064 (OP)
Unironically Tesla, because they wont need repairs.

>>28474490

>designed 1000 times more reliably than a modern beemer or whatever

Please stop talking . Everything russia makes are ''чepeз жoпy'' .
Have do I know . Well I live in post soviet onion country . I did experience russian ''repairability'' myself .
Also my country still have russian diaspora and no one of them buys russian cars .
No one is stupid enough to waste money on those junks , well except for some delusionals europeans .

>>28474345
He might have junk cars but at least he has a car and wrenches too

>>28475069

It's sames as saying : At least he have hole to fuck , its man's hole but hole nevertheless .

Chevy Silverado 5.3 2WD WT
Bone simple
Plenty of room underwood
No turbos
No Electric drive train
Huge part supply
Chevy only company that designs for repairs

>>28474490
Watch tank repairs videos on YT
Guy complains less about rebuilding an entire Leopard transmission wire harness than changing a starter on a BMP. You can keep your slav junk.

>>28474297
As much as I love the unchanging Express van it's going to be harder to repair than a truck. Common and cheap parts tho.

>>28474332
Unfathomably based

>>28474064 (OP)
>a 2024 civic sport with a manual, they're gone for 2025-on

>>28475940
>stretch belts
cancer

>>28474256
Hard no. Wet timing belt in the new 5.0s, and Ford's canbus bullshit today is a total pain. The forums are full of kvetching about shit you could do in ForScan on a prior model that doesn't work on the nutrugg.

>>28475091
Do you have something you want to tell us? No need, I can kinda guess it already.
Just because I like Soviet cars doesn't mean they're the only things I have, albeit I mostly daily them nowadays.

>>28474064 (OP)
A kit car. As long as they stay in business you can call them up and order chassis and body parts. If you buy it as a rolling chassis the engine and transmission is up to you. You could run both off of a standalone ECM/TCM which are affordable and plentiful these days.

>>28474064 (OP)
I'd choose a non turbo Mazda. Suzuki are good too, but not the CVT autos.

>>28476269
How do suzuki's compare to toyota/honda reliability wise? I just bought a 2011 manual sx4 with 80k miles in the states where they aren't sold any more. I've never known anyone who owns one, so I've got no frame of reference here.

>>28474064 (OP)
Jetta SPORT specifically, not se or sel.

>>28476163
>As long as they stay in business
They tend to go out of it more frequently than large corporations, and the latter even have legal obligations to make parts available for some years after the last car of the same model you bought left the factory. Kit car manufacturers can just say fuck you over the phone.

>>28477181
They're good, but the best part is that spare parts are the cheapest.
Try to keep your SX4 alive. They are a great little shitbox.

>>28477908
Suzuki parts are a nightmare in North America. Back when I had my Suzuki I would have been fucked without Rockauto and even then the parts on there were starting to become unavailable. No parts store will have Suzuki parts and most shops won't work on them because they can't source parts for them. They're underrated cars but you have to know what you're getting into when you buy a car from a defunct manufacturer.

>>28479529
Different here in Australia. Suzuki's are common.

>>28474121
>>28474218
It's the most documented car ever made. OP said new. Realistically it's the miata. Simple NA motor. No gizmos or forced induction nonsense, no subaru "32 inch extension for the sparkplugs" bullshit, miata is actually the answer.

>>28474064 (OP)
2025 F250 XL with the 6.8 gas motor = no goofy electronics to brake and everything mechanical is designed to be rebuilt. its the closest to a pre 2000's vehicle offered today.

>>28474490
Did the Jeet RE's ever solve their self-disassembling crankshaft issues?
Most of the people I knew who owned one talked about how they had to replace all kinds of fasteners, parts and chunks of wiring due to typical Indian "build quality".

>>28480018
Probably. I haven't heard of crankshafts becoming cheese except for KTMs. They knew they had a shit reputation and really pushed their QC.
I've had picrel (2019) for 8 months. No major problems so far, but I bent the rear brake lever by pushing it too hard (previous owner was a retard who rode 100 miles a year and adjusted the lever so high up it could barely apply the brake). Also, the gearbox can find neutral between any gear, but otherwise seems solid. The speedo goes whackass if I ride in heavy rain.
Good point: easy as fuck to DIY service. Did my first valve job drunk and in about an hour.

>>28474218
fatass

>>28474427
>>28475058
my lada just works though
why do you think you are qualified to talk about cars? you're some 80 iq retard from a shithole country
can't even speak english properly kek
t. finn

>>28474087
fippybippy

>>28479960
do you live in derby? whats it like?

>>28474064 (OP)
A kit car.

>>28474295
With a lada you make the parts yourself. Outside. With wood. And the car runs better than original.

>>28484001
Saw people in Russia doing the same with S-10 Blazers. It's just a Slav thing, I presume.

>>28474256
Ford likes to hide spark plugs...

>>28475980
Can be replaced in five minutes
How long is your mild hybrid system going to last?

>>28477643
This kid baiting here's a you

>>28474087
Honestly if the weather isn't too hot Or cold, I don't see why anyone wouldn't buy a motorcycle. Fear of dying? Get a standard road bike

>>28488095
>no room for shit like groceries
>needing to dress up in a gimp suit every time you want to use it
>having to hide under an overpass every time it rains or hails
>being on the road with the other braindead drivers in their 6000lb trucks

>>28488101
>Being a fucking pansy
No wonder your father doesn't call you

>>28488065
>can be replaced in 5 minutes
lol
>hybrid
literally never said a word about this, what are you on about?

>>28474064 (OP)
Mazda 3 Skyactiv-G 2.5l non-turbo.
If you are not afraid of Korean cars, then 2014+ Hyundai Genesis V8 RWD sedan is one the most repairable modern cars with V8 engine.

>>28488131
It's not about bravery, it's about stupidity. Other people on the road are simpleminded retards who are either texting, gatcha gaming, watching jewtube, doordashing, or any sort of activity you can do on a smartphone on a phone mount.

>>28474064 (OP)
Ultima RS with LS3. What's more repairable than a car you assembled from scratch yourself?

Any EV. The only regular maintenance items are tire rotations and brake fluid