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Did you ride today?

Post trackday and/or race pics

ADVENTURE

I have a question for "solo" riders, don't you guys get tired (couldn't think of a better way to say it honestly) of riding alone?
I almost always ride alone, but sometimes it feels like something is missing. I'm interested in everyone's opinion so let me know

Cow posting

>>28477438
Ride with Jesus

>>28477437
ADVENTURE

>MV Agusta, the most reliable motorcycle brand ever, are considering a return to MotoGP in 2027 using KTM engines and chassis probably from Kalex

>>28477428
too much rain lol

>>28477434

>>28477437

>>28477443
based

>>28477443
Cowe

>>28477464

Gucci?

>>28477428
No...
I just washed my baiku yesterday.

Ya I’m that bad boy
Ya I’m better then you
No u won’t do fucking shit about it

>>28477464
Bella

What will any of you actually do about this?
This is the oldest 1 owner bike on DBT.
I can drop you all off a daycare as I please

>>28477473

My old fag BMW next to Honduh ruckus

>>28477483
that honder is tiny lmao

>>28477428
only on the weekend ;_;

I checked my oil level and the dipstick was totally dry.
Might've been that way for 2,000 miles. The oil warning light never came on. Will it be okay after an oil change and topping up???

>>28477468
I have a pair of those boots, I got the even cheaper for 190€ on a clearance sale.
Check some other stores maybe they have similar deals?
They are very good boots, very comfy. Just get some tallow or similar leather care products as my pair came bone dry from the factory.

>>28477515
dipstick?

>>28477515
Sounds weird, are you sure you are not supposed to let It idle for a couple of minutes before checking? My bike Is like that and It would look clean too if you check It when cold, check user manual to be sure

>>28477515
unless you heard some rattling or metallic noise you should be okay, either way check on the owner's manual how you're supposed to check for oil levels, some bikes require a cold check while others need you to actually ride for a bit and check it "hot"

>>28477546
Followed the procedure in the manual.
>>28477550
I did hear cam chain rattle. Constant and persistent through all temperature ranges but not bad. Only audible at idle. I considered it normal for a 25k mile bike. I have switched from 10w40 to 10w30 as the manual requires.
No smoke, no loss of power or otherwise strange noises. Healthy and positive gear shifts.

>>28477428
No, too hot today and tomorrow.
>38°C humidex today
>36°C humidex tomorrow

Got 5grand coming my way, and I'm looking to get my first bike. All I know that I want is a daily rider, and not a scoot unless its a scoot that can get into 70mph cause my current scoot can't keep up with traffic at 45mph

>>28477529
the stick you dip into the oil to check the level

>>28477577
Grom

>>28477438
I kinda like it that way

>>28477583
nah, not grom

>>28477515
>The oil warning light never came on
Well, you always had pressure, then.

.

>>28477563
I had this happen to me too, the cam chain rattled, asked the tech to check it and said it was fine.
Check your oil level fellas, sometimes we underestimate how much oil our bikes end up burning

Are comfort and good handling on corners mutually exclusive?

>>28477578
you may need to read that on a centerstand

>>28477468
For me it was the TCX Drifters instead. Very comfortable and they look good under my jeans.

>>28477597
See my thinking here is that surely so long as the pump is always pressurised, there is always oil sprayed on every part and nothing goes without and therefore no extra wear occurs. The extra oil is just sitting in the sump before it gets sucked up by the pump again.
I can't believe that there is a gradual increase in wear as oil level drops, it would be immediate following a loss in oil pressure which would remain constant for all volumes of oil above the height of the oil pan.

>>28476627
what model??

>>28477641
Bad Dragon Valentino

>>28477438
My time and pace are entirely my own.

>>28477577
sv650

I don't wear riding pants, usually the cheap versions of levis and wranglers or just what the fuck ever. Since I'm already wearing synthetic melt to your skin nothing, how much more dagerous would shorts be?

>>28477662
I mean, depends what you're riding and how you're riding it.
On GSXR I've got full leathers, but on my old GS i'm just wearing whatever.

>>28477608
No, unless your idea of good handling exclusively means race bike, and your idea of comfort exclusively means full dressed cruiser or Goldwing. Most sport touring bikes handle quite well and have good comfort.

>>28477608
>Are comfort and good handling on corners mutually exclusive?
Yup, always has been always will be

>>28477662
Regular Levi's/wrangler jeans will hold up okay in slow speed stuff, shorts are guaranteed road rash from like 2mph.

>>28477662
go smash a rock in half, put it on a stove for 30mins and aggressively rub it into your leg

>>28477428
Yes

>>28477565
Pussy

>>28477713
That’s 40.4C heat index in your retard units

>>28477627
These look a lot like my boots, forma adventure boots, I wear them all year
Forgot my work shoes last week and the owner saw these under my work pants, and talked to me for about an hour about how the old co-owner (he sold out just before I started on) would ride every day and is now riding around the world in his early retirement.
He had a major accident about five years ago, and I’m just reporting what I heard here
>leg totally fucked
>surgery for steel rods throughout
>long recovery to walk
>went back in for elective surgery to have the rods removed
>just in case he crashed again and fucked the same leg
Level of motorcycling I aspire to

>>28477720
>retard units
Kek OK. What's the formula again? Something like
> (degrees celsius × 9/5) + (number of times your country has landed on the moon) + 32 = retard units?

>>28477713
>>28477720
As a coastal leaf, I'm not built for this kind of heat. Also Fahrenheit is the retard unit, not Celsius.

>>28477473
based king welcome creator of /dbt/

>>28477662
A lot more. Denims actually provide a better impact resistance than 600d codura but worse shear/slide resistance. You would be better witch ripstop pants or codura pants because they already are cheap but ripstop looks like work khakis and codura non motorcycle ones are like 400d or less usually.

Once again it will be another month without mu bike fixed. I am going to call again tomorrow.

>>28477735
All American standard units are better than all metric units. Only scientists think otherwise but scientists are gay niggers, all engineers know the truth about metric (it SUCKS)

>>28477739
I would love to see a test of unbranded brands 21oz denim, or even particularly heavy weight duck canvas. I’ve only ever seen people test regular wranglers and such, which are fairly light

>>28477438
I sometimes miss the company of others, but after going for a ride with other people I remember why I ride alone.
I enjoy taking my time ,getting side track and going exploring.

>>28477438
I don't like riding with other people because nobody ever goes the same speed as me. They either go faster than I want which is dangerous or slower than I want which is boring.

>>28477515
It's on the sidestand but you're supposed to check it while it's level

>>28477768
ot could be fun to ride with one or two friends who have a similar riding style

>>28477438
Solo dolo is how I roll for now.
2-4 fren rides are fun but only if you know those dudes can actually ride or squids in disguise.

Rallys are fuckin cool but exceptionally dangerous from a risk assesment perspective. All it takes is 1 retard to butterfly effect fuckery. They are fun if A. You're a good rider B. The Rally has more experienced riders rather than scrubs attending.

Riding solo is also the easiest way to make new friends

It's apparently Super Based Honda Night tonight.
>GL650 Silver Wing
>6th gen VFR (mine)

>>28477781
better view of the wing

>>28477775
been riding for like 4 years but made none kek

>>28477759
I have. Thicker denims actually performed closer to 1000d codura but with better impact resistance. Impact is the biggest issue with 600d codura while that might seem counter to the materials claimed advantages, concentrated heat+force is a weakness it can handle them seperate but not together. Thats why better jackets and pants have 1000d codura on padded areas. This isn't an issue with denim and leathers as heat concentration needs to be at one place for much longer. Experiment you can do at home is taking a worn out jacket and pants to a rock or knife you have ran a heatgun on for a few minutes.

>>28477662
When I was in my early 20's I high-sided on Angeles Crest Highway at around 100-ish, wearing an open-face helmet, roper gloves, a T-shirt and jeans. I'm 62 now and on two daily pain pills on account of the phantom pain from the ground-off nerves.
Get yourself some Kevlar-lined jeans and a shirt if you're too cool for a mesh jacket.

>>28477784
Lovely bike.
Apparently servicing them was a bitch. Bro owned one.

>>28477793
You tested 21oz denim? Did you take pictures or video? I’m not willing to kill a 200 dollar pair of pants. Normally I ride in a roadcrafter, but when I’m popping in and out it’s mostly those jeans, I have three pairs

>>28477793
>>28477839
dress for the slide, not the ride
if youre gonna be a retard, put leathers on
if you are a retard, just let the EMTs scrape you off the pavement
a 2piece or a suit arent expensive if you value your life

>>28477872
Enjoy slowly riding less and less as you get older and cba to play dress up anymore and give up riding by the time you’re forty lying to yourself that it’s bc of your kids or your wife
I’ve seen it a dozen times

>>28477877
I'm 43 and go out on my K5 once a week, wearing leathers - once a month we go to the track
I daily a GS and wear textiles or aramid-lined depending on the weather

Yeah you can get AAA rated jeans for like $200 these days.

>>28477887
>once a week
Lmfao

>>28477890
thats a lot

>>28477890
I've probably put more miles on that 1 bike than you've done in your whole life
she deserves a rest, and the wife doesnt like going on it anymore

>>28477887
>I daily a GS
The cool kind? Or the BMW kind?

>>28477662
Denim is a lot better than bare skin.
Personally I'm wearing (normal cotton) jeans right now because I can't really find good kevlar stuff. I now have a $300 pair of AA pando motos sitting in my closet gathering dust because even those are too heavy to realistically wear.
I don't understand why they can't use better fabric to make LIGHT pants. I'd pay 300 for something I could wear.

>>28477662
Gym shorts are bad you'll slide all over the seat and you will struggle squeezing the tank with your knees.
Also you'll burn yourself.
I guess its the new squiddy "thing" kids are doing.
I did it on my rides to the gym years ago.

>>28477877
You know I hate to say it but hauling around all my gear and putting it on before the ride was such a process I'd just not bother riding sometimes.
Im pretty guilty of riding with minimal gear on pretty consistently over the past decade or so.
But road rash is terrible.
Almost thinking of some chaps and a simple leather jacket like a Harley guy.
Riding casual wear also, I'd need several pairs of Kevlar jeans to daily wear...
Some chaps and a jacket to throw over everything might be alright.

>>28477662
If you live in the USA you can get cheaper non CE rated riding jeans from places like Cycle Gear that will do good enough if you go down around town.

>Since I'm already wearing synthetic melt to your skin nothing, how much more dagerous would shorts be?
Did most riders not ride bicycles as kids or something? I distinctly remember when I was a kid picking out rocks from under my skin numerous times when I crashed my bicycle.

>>28477915
Melty nylon is worse than bare skin because the A&E will be picking molten plastic out of your ass.
I will wear denim but not Walmart denim when riding.

>>28477877
Aramid jeans + regular style boots + a jacket you think is cool and has pockets + regular gloves and your helmet. Doesn't take all that long.

>>28477892
It isn’t

>>28477893
I doubt it, here’s my daily commute, five times a week

>>28477921
>>28477930
This is why I got the roadcrafter
All those pieces of gear really do add up
It really does suck the joy out of riding for most people

>>28477877
40s, still wearing full gear 95% of the time and ride at least 5 days a week. But I have like 10 jackets, 5 different types of riding pants/jeans, 4 different types of riding shoes/boots, bunch of gloves, and a few helmets. So there's something for every occasion.

So my options are a Grom which sounds like a meme answer since it won't get up to the speeds I want, or some kind of ugly modern naked bike?

>>28477662
too dangerous, but they already invented the perfect solution

>>28477941
Ninja twofiddy

Only leather I wear are my hoots.
Riding gear mostly consists of a T shirt and jeans, steel helmet and Hatsune Miku blasting from earpods.

>>28477942
n i c e

>>28477941
SV650. You can find them for the same price as a new Grom in good shape if you search around.

>>28477944
You know I've gone down before.
Jeans will get torn up in microseconds.
But I've been real complacent over the past several years.
My area the population has 2x over the past five years or so.
They're all so bad at driving

>>28477936
>It isn’t
don't blame me, I have drive my work car to work. we can't all commute like a Vietnamese peasant.

>>28477428
>found condensation in the oil inspection window
That's what I get for living 10 minutes from work.

>>28477949
I know, same. Just don't crash.

>>28477960
KTM orange metal flakes

>>28477960
Free glitter!

>>28477960
Bearing dust. Time to trade it in.

>>28477966
>he didn't use Motul 7100

>>28477411 (OP)
>Hawg edition!
Reposting my hawg
>>28477781
>>28477784
Nice SilverWing
Honda best

>>28477839
21oz denim is cheaper than kevlar and aramid I DIYed /k/ stuff with. Still used it a bit. Pants with double material layers are 120 bucks starting now and even non paded 21oz denim is around the same. Just I can't suggest pure denim vs double layer, It is both out of comfort and effectiveness since aramid and kevlar are better than both denim and codura that have been standard.
>>28477930
Anon before specified 2piece leather.
>>28477872
Codura and denim with aranid/kevlar are normal and a fraction of the price of goatskin while still surviving a significant distance. You can definitely walk away with denim+aramid/kevlar combo but with codura textiles it's more tricky and the industry trends to what people can stand to wear for jackets more than pants.

>>28477977
DESU no. I don't like the format. I've ridden a bunch of cruisers and now I'm old and busted I'd still rather a Supermoto.
I'm sure people like them but in my 50 plus years of riding I just don't get it.
I'm sure that potato is a thing you love.

>>28477960
HE FOUND GOLD LADS

>>28477985
who makes good pants?

>>28477941
If you want something less bug looking you can always go for the retro bikes anon

>>28477443
>>28477464
You are now honorary sirs. Good morning sirs.

>>28477483
The old bimmer has so much sovl.

Honestly, what a good little shit bike. Full pin for 15 minutes on the highway with 2 people at 90 mph. It just takes the abuse and never gives up. The little thumper that could.
It has developed a little rattle intermittently. Only does it when moving, it's either something in the muffler or the cam chain tensioner. The manual tensioner is still in the mail, so I'll see what happens with that when it gets here.

>>28478024
Is the tank the original part?

>>28478024
This was supposed to be my first bike, but I backed out since finding used ABS ones were difficult and got a used g310 instead.

>>28477900
Not having ABS is not cool, get on with the times old timer.

>>28477941
Int650 or GT650 looks cool, not a grom but still cool. Or there is always sv650.

>>28478038
I've never had an ABS bike. ABS on the cars I've had can be hit or miss. ABS on snow is a BAD thing.

>>28477766
That's why I ride with only close friends, we ride in pairs, its the best, after this riding alone is not fun anymore, all those faggots got married and I'm alone again.

>>28478029
I believe so.
She's had a rough life.

>>28478037
G310?

>>28478043
ABS saved me a few times in 5 years when a should not have been riding, and once when a faggit tried to cut into my lane from the opposite side, although slow speed, I remember getting properly scared. Maybe its not needed in the first world. I'd not take the risk with bad roads, shit for brain drivers and riders.

>>28478047
It's this one, TVS RR310, just a BMW G310R with fairing. BMW also released a G310RR later.

>>28478047
Little bikes that can are cool. Hyperbikes can gtfo.

Am I crazy for thinking these actually pretty good?
Like Harley could've had a winner if they stuffed their V-twin into one of these.

>>28477985
I own a one piece suit and casual gear. You can have more than one set.

>>28478053
If you mean the non engine parts of the bike yeah. You still need to be able to recharge 250 miles in ten minutes to keep pace with a gas bike on tour though.

>>28478053
I like the look of that, the potential for it exploding would make pic look inviting.

>>28478053
They do have excellent styling. Proof that Harley could absolutely make a killer naked bike if they wanted to.

>>28478045
I like riding in pairs or solo. I feel more free and comfortable to cut up in traffic when I'm alone, though, so I enjoy solo riding a lot.

>>28478051
That's nice. Probably much nicer than the cbr250.

>>28478052
I like hyper bikes too ....

>>28478069
>Probably much nicer than the cbr250
Thanks anon, IDK if it is, it's been good to me.

>>28478069
Is that seat as comfy as it looks

>>28478069
Can it haul my mom?

>>28478053
FTR just chillin sayin "yeah"
>0KPNW

I'm partially reverting the cafe modification to this tux. I got a stock seat and a subframe and I'm gonna mount a milk crate to it for added utility. I also might even use it for doordash or Uber Eats. But I actually think it will look better and be more comfortable when all is said and done. I always thought this aftermarket seat looked weird and ruined the bike's proportion because it's too short.

>>28478157
For reference, the before photo, which was done by the previous owner.

BMW should make a 650/750cc boxer GS, a proper R750GS, weighing less than 200kg and they can mint money. I just want it. Why won't they make it? Or Honda should remake XRV650 AT, but sub 200kg. AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess Tuareg 660, T7 and Transalp come close, but none of them come with a cool engine.

Be honest, would you trade your current bike for this?

>>28478202
no thank you. its nice looking though

>>28478203
What bike do you have? Do you think a GP-owner would trade it for your bike?

>>28478193
>200kg
Lol, lmao even. Anything bellow 300kg is a plastic toy, enjoy being blown about by a gust of wind

>>28478202
Which one of my current bikes? I could probably sell that thing for more than whatever my bikes are worth, but I dunno if I wanna let go of my bikes.

>>28478193
https://motorcyclesports.net/benda-bd250-3b-the-250cc-boxer-no-one-asked-for-but-exists-anyway/
Chinese have heard your call into the void, but it's a 250.

>>28478193
Why would you need anything but Tenny?
Tenere was the first Dakar winning baek you know

>>28477977
Not a hog

>>28478221
Huh, that's actually a fairly neat concept. Wouldn't buy the bike even if it became a thing because it's ugly as sin, but I can appreciate the running gear.
>B-BUT MUH CHINKS
Don't care, a hydraulically coupled boxer twin with chain final drive is a very neat and unique concept. Wouldn't mind owning just the engine and tranny.
Shame it's watercooled.

>>28478066
You sound poor

>>28478234
Which one looks cooler for normies?

>>28478235
If it said R7 anywhere, people would pick sv650.

>>28478237
But cool kids choose R7, not SV

>>28478242
You're poor and brown

>>28478011
Look at the materials used and info on the construction, same for jackets. Even klim nakes sone actual doshit get given a $300+ price. A majority of pants that are casual only really have style differences in the sub 300 range, it's practically all the same level of denim and just swapping between aramid or kevlar for protecting the same areas. Some casual pant have a significantly high pricw just for the ce lvl 1 armor coming with it.

>>28478193
No, honda should give the US the current cbr250rr.

>>28478245
But not really

>>28478230
What is a hog?

>>28478340
Your mom

>>28478244
I'm white and poor. Post hand you won't

>>28478359
You're not white and you don't have a motorcycle

>>28477952
>I commute to work by car
Yeah that’s why most people don’t ride a lot, they prefer to drive their car

>>28477985
Did you take any pictures or video of your test procedure though? I would like to see your results

>>28477990
>in my 50 plus years of riding
I thought I was the only old in the general but just ITT multiple others say they’re forty plus. I’m feeling the solidarity

>>28478202
No! I rode it and decided to keep my Cb650r.
The yam had a very numb feeling throttle like the ECU was second guessing every input. The engine is incredibly quiet even with the akro pipe, all you hear is valve rattle.
The chassis is very good and handles really well. I liked the bar height too but the motor felt too numb and appliance-like to me

>>28477990
>My 50 years of riding
>Those 50 years consisting of sometimes 500 miles a year on summer weekends only
Miss me with that shit, gramps

>>28478371
You know it has riding modes right?

Are Asians as dangerous on bikes as they are in cars? At least in the Western countries

>>28478247
Just get a R3 and call it a day. There are many bikes in this, cheaper even, RC390, Ninja 300, ZX4R. CBR250RR is not competitive that's why it's not launched.

>>28478471
Asians outside US are quite skilled right? As thirdies, we have in on hard mode. Also, I guess Jeets don't count as asians these days.

>>28478242
Are the cool kids the ones described as inner city "youth". Too much melanin containing ones? Basket ball americans? I know Yamaha and KTM only appeal to them.

Good morning, /dbt/. Did you get a chance to look at your bike today and feel a smidge of kando?

>>28478493
All June has been piss weather and two weeks of my vacation time is ruined thanks to it. In other words no.

>>28478499
>two weeks of my vacation time
Damn, bro. How many straight weeks of vacation do you get?

>>28478502
Starting back up on Monday, but I have three more weeks in the start of August. Should be better by then RIGHT? I usually visit a friend cross country, good 13 hour trip, was hoping to get to do that on my bike, this being my first season after getting my license on the ass end of last year.

>>28478493
Walked right past it and hopped in my truck that took 3 months to rebuild while I dailied my bike. Just missed it y'know

There is nothing like DRZ400. Wtf? RMZ450, crf450rl are race bikes that can only run for a few hours. How are there no light 400 to 450cc bikes? A2 is really the kill joy of motorcycling. F450GS and Truareg 450 are going to be around 180. Nothing in 150kg range. Its truly a suffering, Suzuki wont make an adv out of drz400 because Suzuki and single with be vibey. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

>>28478202
No

>>28478202
Yes because my current ride is a moped, a China brand

>>28478121
FTR doesn't look nearly as good with its frumpy tail and headlight sections, and that weird tracker inspired stance

>>28478121
>discontinued

>>28478121
The pnw isn't part of the West Coast
Never forget

>>28478202
As a g310 owner, yes. But cracked frames on R9 scare me. No doubt I'll take it, flip it and get me a T7 or Transalp.

>>28478229
No soul, its a ptwin. But if it were sold here, I'd take it.

>>28478229
>the first Dakar winning baek
SR400 is closer to that bike

>>28478234
SUZUKI!
Release this and my money is yours!

>>28478527
Not sure the 450 twins are aimed at the very dirt oriented dual sport market in the same way the drz, klx, or ktm enduros are. 180kg, twin torque curve and rpms, and a front fairing on the f450gs Taureg 450 make me think they compromised on pure enduro performance for putting in highway miles, not just A2 bullshit.

Got rid of the finger fucker 9000 retainers and made proper ones

>>28478476
R3 is is super economy. The cbr250rr has more feture and better build quality over that. I just want more high reving smaller sized hondas again.

Why can’t I wake up early anymore bros

>>28478379
Yes. I went to custom and set everything as sharp as possible and was unsatisfied. Rain mode was the worst of all. When you give it a little bit of revs for taking off it makes the engine hunt up and down by about 2,000rpm. Genuinely unacceptable. While riding it's like the first 90% of the throttle makes no difference. It behaves like a throttle cable with a mile of free play.
In sports mode it felt just nominally numb. Snap the throttle wide open and it's like the butterflies in the intake tract take a 3-4 seconds to actuate fully open. Rev matching on downshifts was difficult because it'd never rev up fast enough to react in time

>>28478583
Damn they sit perfecrly, never measure, always just eyeball everything
>>28478588
How late do you go to sleep? How fucked up is your sleep schedule?

>>28478539
Hard disagree
>>28478541
>All of the greatest ku' are discontinued'
>>28478542
What's the W mean anon


ITS 2002 AND YOU MUST CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER. WHATCHA PILOTING /DBT/?

>>28478612
>2002
R6

>>28478588
You're getting old.

>>28478612
Nah, Indian (polaris) just makes a trash product

>>28478202
Absolutely nothing would make me ditch my 950

>>28478612
Kawi. Cant stand garbage ass digital gages

>>28478612

>>28478493
I don't know about that "can dough" stuff you keep mentioning, but I did see my bike today.

Hey everyone I just bought a Cardo and well I have some issues. For one it won’t connect to my helmet, secondly it just plays one single funny tune before it gets hot (like really really hot!) idk if it’s broken or needs service? Firmware update?? Pic shows the device, it’s got two stars and a weird guy on it. Any ideas bros?

>>28477759
Metric is better
>t. Engineer

>>28478692
RMA to tel aviv

>>28478700
+1
>t. Engineer

>>28478667
Wait, hold on, what's this bike?

>>28478586
same power and torque number, same weight, honda made a heavier bike with less displacement and more engine stress. Its literally a worse bike than R3. This is the same as buying an applel phone for the applel badge. Come out of the matrix anon.

>>28478612
XRV650, ricing up that bitch to the tits and getting comfy.

>>28478667
Valkyre? Not even a Rune? Come on now anon, are you even trying?

>>28478692
did you try rubbing your hands together before turning it on? if that doesn't work then you probably havent linked it to your checking account yet

>>28478718
If it's the same weight then how is it also heavier?

>>28478108
>Is that seat as comfy as it looks
It literally feels like a rocket couch. It's so comfy.

>>28478723
I tried too hard, Rune was my first choice but it's 2004-2005 only, anon said 2002

lmao based

>>28478718
>More engine stress
Spoken like a true non engi. Also Like I said the suspension dash, chassis and bodywork are just significantly better. You have to ride one to understand. Go to japan and rent one there is a reason the r3 sales tanked.
>>28478710
>>28478700
Shit doesn't even matter, anyone can convert and if it is too much of a problem for you, you are definitely in the wrong field.
T. PE holder.

>>28478612
2002? Only the finest chopper will do.

>>28478716
>flat 6

guess

>>28477437

>>28478728
Sorry senpai, I'm the stupid one.

>>28478730
New gen applel phone faster by 5% and 10% less battery usage than last gen. Buy one now to save money. Buy buy buy!

>>28478744
How do americans deal with the fact that Japs got them totally beat in the chopper game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSGCVIQ6-_M

>>28478752
Not even the argument I am making. The r3 is just outperformed as a deal for that market because the r3 requires a different license class, doesn't make power to compete in the 300-400cc market and has non of the features of the competition in that license class. It's just a bad deal there. In the US they are cheap at least and the competition just skips to 400cc or 500cc for sport bikes. I don't even hate the r3 it just isn't what I'm asking for as someone whole likes sub 500cc bikes, the r3 needs a refresh when compared to kawi as well.

>>28478745
Uhhh some sort of goldwing? I really don't know biles outside of my niche, but that thing looks really damn good.

>>28478362
I'm only 30 but my parents were riding for 20 years before I was born, and they contained my egg and sberm, so I've technically been riding for 50 years

>>28478765
>some sort of goldwing?

actually yes. Without the fairings and called by a different name.

>>28478755

>>28478759
>r3 needs a refresh when compared to kawi as well
I completely agree with you anon. IMO CBR250RR will also not be competitive with likes of the bikes being sold today. Its not a huge miss.

>>28478765
Obligatory fortnine video on the glorious nippon Honda Motor Company's masterpiece the Rune.

>>28478774
I agree it's an uphill battle but I think premium entry level has a place, the build quality of the RR is really good and fixes every issue people who tracked the cbr250/300r. It's pretty good in the OEM parts. I want to see if the US would buy the sub 600cc track oriented bikes because this is the closest we get to a modern nsr250 from honda without twostroke.

>>28478782
The Ninja 250/300/400 was crazy popular.

>>28478768
Really now? Apparently it's a Valkyrie, never heard of them, but damn if that isn't a good looking bike.
Not a fan of hondas or jap bikes in gemeral, but damn. Wouldn't mind owning one

>>28478784
The zx4RR is pretty much the closest thing to premium sub 600 class. Ninjas get close but theres a difference especially with cost saving.

>>28478781
>High quality, super-individual model of an american style cruiser
>no options for customization (and no point to it either)
>all in all pretty ugly

jeez i wonder why noone bought it.

>>28478790
and it got gimped by noise regs, reeeeeee

>>28478790
the 457 is pretty high quality

Just plated my new (to me) GS.

>>28478795
The ZX4RR has been getting quite a bit of performance aftermarket support.

>>28478493
Every morning and i'm always super proud and happy about it.

Thinking i could try go take a look at a textile jacket or something, leather is getting a bit too hot to stay out riding for hours.
What makes a good summer jacket? lots of vents? light colors to absorb less heat? only ever used my leather and a borrowed IXS

>>28478798
Its that and zx4RR but it seems like its ~400cc track bikes, 600s then the flagships. I am interested in seeing if the same can happen to 250~300s. Economy has taken a hit and people still want something that feels like a purchase they would keep, but that might just be me because I do.

>>28478803
did your husband pay?

>>28478803
Chain's too tight? (also too clean, needs moar lube)

>>28478748
Any, you saved my pic

Why are Adventures bad beginner bikes?

>>28478811
Mesh jacket, possibly light color.

>>28478816
Nope, it's within spec. Just put a new DID x-ring chain on. it's slacked out a bit after that ride so I'll probably need to add tension (35-45mm slack).

>>28478819
They are not, you could start on a Royal Enfield Himmy. Maybe beginners, if short, might find it difficult to manage the height.

>>28478748
>FRED BEANS

>>28478819
high+heavy is indeed a rather bad setup for someone still learning how to ride off, shift and come to a halt properly.

>>28478819
Tall. Heavy.

>>28478798
Comes with shit brakes, shitalian reliability, early production, quality might not be the best. Apparently if you put the clipons in full lock, it hits the tank? Only shitalians can engineer something like this.

>>28478791
kys, poor people is why Honda is not being creative anymore.

Honda Rune should not be forgotten, it's like Lexus LFA, but if it were a cruiser. Forgot to post the vid singing praises of Honda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuWiKz9zno

>>28478730
Metric in terms of strictly fasteners are extremely nice for both manufacturing and technician because it's a lot faster scanning for a solid number than it is to look for fraction units.

Tldr: the smoothest of brains can work quickly on metric because haha solid number go brrr
Also metric bolt heads are typically thicker/more material which in turn promotes longevity. I think American units are superior for home building/wood working/extremely close tolerance maching but fasteners metric is goated

>>28478782
TIL Honda sold a 57hp 2smoke liquid cooled vtwims, fuck you government, why can we have a lightweight monster like this? Its glorious anon. Apparently the RS250R makes 118hp? Honda was on pure coke in the yesteryears.

>>28477900
hyb gs4ever

>>28477889
They feel like concrete don't fall for this meme.

>>28478493
BMWs have kando? Also, looked at it while working out, it desparately needs some cleaning.

>>28478824
>>28478825
They weigh as much as a naked bike

>>28478856
>durr bike weight same
>no understand center-of-gravity
>why learn bike so hard?

>>28478856
The 900 GS (the small one) already weighs 220 KG without fuel.
the 1350 is at a whopping 235

so no. They are heavier. For comparison the new Hornet 1000 is at 212 WITH fuel. The S1000R is at 199.

>>28478862
>1350GS heavy
YES BUT, I'm a small 5'7 guy and moving one around was very easy. my F800 (seen above) is comparatively more unweildy as it's COG is higher. The 1200GS and other boxer bikes like that are the exception to that rule, but no beginner on a bike is buying a $30K bike...

>>28478767
>tfw been riding since WWI by this reasoning

>heavy but center of gravity
Then I would simply get a sport touring

>>28478821
>DID x-ring chain
Only the GOAT of chains. How does DID keep winning?

>>28478692
Gotta pay your shekels to use your cardo

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>>28478906
Used the Tusk chain tool too, it couldn't have been easier.

>>28478819
I wasn't aware people thought bikes like the crf300 rally, vstrom 250, versys 300, or even nx500 as bad beginner bikes.

>>28478946
The V-Strom 250 doesn't exist in the US and the Versys-X gets memed on for some reason. My first two bikes were a CB500X and a V-Strom 650.

>>28478955
>Versys-X gets memed on for some reason.
I always assumed that was just the Fort9 review where he ignored how 95% of people use offroad touring bikes and said to buy a dual sport.

>>28478906
>shinier than chrome!

>>28478730
>you can just convert
Exactly. It doesn't really matter which one you use these days because conversion is dead simple, and to that end there is no reason to stick with sae. You ever see prints in fractions?

nooooooo
fuck you, weather jews

>>28477428
Rode my mom's bike today

>>28479016
take comfort in the fact it'll cut the heat a little K00RN

>>28478946
The 300 rally is a worse version of the regular 300. A Z400 is a better beginner Kawasaki than either of the versys.

>>28477434

Oh I forgot to say
Dear /dbt/
I bought the R6. Yeah I paid a bit more than I likely should, but I love the bike. Riding every day for hours around the state.
Love your bikes bros

>>28479073
big grats anon
hope you remember to slip the mechanic a $20

>>28479073
Oh my the assthetics of it…what’d the guy look like that u got it from?
Great bike though miss mine nothing else like it for screaming around full blast

>>28479074
I actually did!
>>28479077
From dealership used. previous owner was apparently some skinny young kid that bought it last year, dropped it, then traded it in and bought a new GXR-S1000
you can imagine what this zoomer looked like

>>28478849
broke nigga take

>>28479073
I love my bikes.
>touring
>commuting
>getting groceries
>weekend hooning
>riding to the airport if I have to fly
>riding into the city
I don't drive anymore unless the weather's ass or I'm sick.

GRANDE KEVIN GRACIAS PAPA!!!!

>>28478976
Dual sports are meh off road and meh on road.

>>28479117
hybrid tax

>>28477438
I used to ride with my girlfriend and it was perfect, but then she was killed by a speeding car cutting a corner and since then I've never ridden with anyone again because nothing would come close and i never want to see someone i care about killed like that again.

>>28479129
Holy shit, you killed her

>>28479117
everything is meh from the factory

>>28479139
It was entirely the fault of the guy driving the car, but you state exactly how i feel about it.

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>>28479071
wut bike is dis?

everything but naked bikes are bad

>>28477529
Harleys use a dipstick. Older BMW's too

>>28479178
older Honda XR

>>28478803
Brudder

post a Honda equivalent

>>28479199
she does not look hyper naked, or even regular naked

>>28478207
>What bike do you have?
SDR1290 and Multistrada V4S

>Do you think a GP-owner would trade it for your bike?
probably not. i imagine someone that wants one of those really wanted it and is happy with it

>>28479199

>>28478976
Yeah fortnine did the same to the cb300r where they simply don't understand theres a market for it and the bike they want already exists as a dual sport in versys case and as a cb500f in the cb300r case(the price of the old cb350 adjusted for inflation matches the 500 and the 300 is made to be an extremely light simple starter bike.)
Idk how people don't get it with low displacement adv that people want the riding position and touring aspects rather than just offroad.
>>28479014
Yes, actually it's extremely common. Anything worked non domestically just prints both though. Regular rank and file in the military and assembly line boomers/genx got used to imperial and stick only to it so you have to. But I like imperial for certain things.

>>28479051
I kinda agree because it hasn't addressed anything people wanted and at that point I wiuld rather have the scl300 or nx300(sahara, but the entire platform is different) the ralley needs a better suspension and shouldn't have been using the super long snorkel intake but probably something like the rebel 300s length of velocity stack. It loses like 3~4 hp and a lot off the top speed because of just the intake. The rebel isn't much better since the velocity stack in the cb300r makes more sense as a funnel and should be that way on both.

I've been through the desert on a horse with no name

>>28479250
does the stock exhaust not annoy you? I testrode one a couple months back and it just sounded like a wet fart

>>28479196
uwu

>>28479255
Yeeeah. It likes to melt my boots too. I tell myself it's a stepping stone bike and to save the money to deck out a litre bike or something.

>>28479250
comf

>>28479261
is it a full system replacement for them?

>>28479261
>It likes to melt my boots too.
How convenient.

>>28479261
thats for sure the route to go if you dont plan on keeping the bike. sadly im still in the mind set of 15 years ago where $1000 got a full titanium exhaust. now slip ons that aren't chinese are $800+

>>28478590
People ask why I don't want ride by wire and it's because of shit like this

Anyone running K60 Rangers? I've heard good things about the German autism put into these Heidenau tires.

>>28479286
It sucks that OEM shitty programming is what kills it. Actually good RBW should basically be programmed as % throttle twisted = % engine power commanded, tuning the throttle opening for ideal airflow at a given RPM, load, etc. but it's usually just "OK we made a rain mode that makes it even lamer and we neutered it for better emissions testing".

fuck riding

had a few near death moments on the bike in fall 23 and havent ridden since. left the bike outside, ya i know im an awful. almost killed a guy in my car on monday (not my fault) and it changed my attitude? starting to fix the bike i guess i need to do a total overhaul right? chain, shocks, electrics, tires, pads maybe rotors, fluids, checking bolts... what else? what's the name of the guy with the shitty site that has diy repair guides?

>>28479337
brotha you may as well buy a new bike

Buddy is new rider.
We’re going to hit the lot to practice. What should I teach him?

>>28479356
clutch ups

>>28479321
just wear bike shorts

>>28479356
Standard MSF drills.

>>28479360
haha when he’s ready I’m glad to but think I’ll start with hard stops and some countersteering lol anything else?

>>28479363
emergency stops always a good thing to practice
and slow speed manoeuvres/using rear brake

>>28479362
like uturns, swerves, circles? I don’t recall ever taking a class

>>28479355
pics not my bike moron. it sat under a tree for 18 months its not totaled

>>28479337
>had a few near death moments on the bike
>posts that pic
>THATS NOT MY BIKE RETARD

neck yourself, faggot

>>28479337
boy you high as FUCK kys

ok im gonna bake wait!

>>28477411 (OP)
FRESH BREAD

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>>28479383
new thread, no bullies,

>>28479371
>can't reply to correct post
the brother that rode pic bike aint with us no more, dont get angry just use your mind next time ok?

>>28479384
>diddnt change anything for the 99th time
BORING THREAD NOT POSTING MY BIYAK

>>28479386
waa waa shut up fag

>>28479394
ooh i'm scared

>>28479365
Yeah, and stopping and passing.

>>28479187
I don't think so