Thread 28480647

First USA review of the Alpine A110.

Jounalists are upset it is only available in Japan and Europe.
https://youtu.be/GhV3Dqt067E

none of those journalist would buy one and considering its auto-tragic only, its just a worse in every way C8. this shit would flop hard if they brought it to america.

>>28480647 (OP)
looks like an frs 86 brz with a body kit

>>28480658
what are you on about
americans love automatics and can't even drive anything that isn't fully auto shit
even sequential gearboxes scare and annoy them

>>28480689
europeans love numb """sports""" cars. and don't like anything that actually has driver engagement. hence why this shit would flop.

>>28480647 (OP)
Not gonna lie, there's a weird charm to this thing. Though I'd still prefer the original.

>>28480647 (OP)
>soulless wheels
into the trash.

>>28480647 (OP)
>french
>automatic only
>turbo 4cyl
>slow
>not available in the us
this car is /o/'s worst nightmare, and it is one of the best reviewed cars ever, go figure

>>28480647 (OP)
Hydrogen vehicle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw5j8zUu_Ys

>>28480714
/o/ is always wrong, just like /pol/

100 hp per ton is the sweet spot for fast enough to be fun and not fast enough to be in constant danger of getting felony speeding tickets

>>28480780
100hp/tonne is garbage, my car is over 160 and isn't that fast really.

>>28480689
>Americans love automatics

in their commuters

this will flop hard because it doesn't come manual, the people paying $50-70,000 for a sports car will be upset its not manual and buy a manual m3/m4. there's a reason porsche and bmw still make manuals for the us market

>>28480821
It's semi automatic and you can't get any more "sports car" than this.
Do you also get mad at actual race drivers using paddle shifting?

>>28480780
how do you do it like I barely accelerate with 200hp on 1,5 tonnes sportsedan

>>28480659
It really does

brz IN A BODYKIT
brz IN A BODYKIT

>>28480780
Man what 200hp in a 4000lb car is slow as fuck
300hp in a 6000lb car is SLOW as FUCK

>>28480780
You must have meant 100hp per 1000lbs

>>28480689
Dumbass. Americans are single handedly keeping manuals alive in performance cars.

>>28480888
4th trips of truth not even trying wtf bmaooo and I KNOW no one's gonna fuckin"
Check 'em, sonnyboy

I love this car.
They just announced their new GT4 model. Asking price: 200k eurobux
If I was a multi millionaire I’d buy a few and start a little A110 GT4 racing team for the NLS consisting of retarded sim racers like myself.
I actually bought a miniature model.

>>28480697
You actually think an Alpine is less engaging than a C8?

>>28480697
t. thinks Europe = BMW, Audi and Merc
many such cases.
Go drive an Alfa 4C, Giulia QV, A110 S, Cayman or 911 and report back

Why did Japan get it?

>>28481045
Fits their narrative.
They love smol and fun cars.
Mutts only care about V8 hogs

>>28480821
>this will flop hard because it doesn't come manual, the people paying $50-70,000 for a sports car will be upset its not manual and buy a manual m3/m4. there's a reason porsche and bmw still make manuals for the us market
it's not coming to the US. it's flopping in europe anyway though.

>>28481041
>drive a Gayman

We have $60k corvettes here bro none of those are even competitive here

>>28481045
because they were making a RHD for the UK anyway, so why not send it to Japan too.

Alpine has always been a low volume niche brand.
They are not competing with the mainstream brands

>>28481045
Nissan sourced the engine

>>28481045
they're scared of manual sports cars like europeans.

SEX with A110 and femoid drivers.

>>28481049
>autotragic
>fun
lmao

>>28481030
a 4 cylinder camaro on all seasons is more engaging than an alpine, let alone a corvette. at least the camaro has a manual.

>>28481066
delulu. we see paddle shifting as something cool and fun after being manual only for all our lives.
It was a novelty 1-2 decades ago

>>28481071
It’s also a huge and heavy piece of shit

>>28481081
still handles better than some gay french """sports""" car. stick to FWD, frogs.

>>28481049
Why are jap cars mostly boring as fuck then? Mostly

>>28481083
good one m8

>>28481068
>i can ONLY have fun if I get to fiddle with muh stickshift!!!

>>28481090
which i could say the same about the french attempt at a sports car.

>>28481088
the only truly boring and utterly overrated one is the garbage GT-R

>>28481094
>attempt
kek

>>28481092
given how manuals are supposedly a big part of european culture, this car that's advertising itself on driver engagement not having one is embarrassing. imagine if the miata was auto-only. no one would take mazda seriously ever again.

>>28481095
And the mirage
And the corolla
And the camry
And the civic
And the accord
And all the fag-wheel drive shit they make
And every shitbaru
They have 2 cars that are supposed to be "fun" and "smol," one of which needs an engine rebuild every 25k miles even though it only makes, what, 200hp? bmaooo

>>28481056
>the one in the picture is LHD
>he doesn't know japan loves driving LHD european cars

>>28481103
Those are newschool commuters

>>28481099
Manuals aren't a big part of European culture THOUGH; they drive them because manuals are cheaper and everyone knows how to drive them. Manuals in high end and/or sports cars are sold much more in the states than europe

>>28481107
I love Fairladys, but why'd they put it on stilts AND a widebody?!

MONSTER TRUCK WITH A WIDEBODY
MONSTER TRUCK WITH A WIDEBODY

manuals are for the poor and slow.

>>28481129
Kek godsdamn japs can't modify cars for SHIT
Only good things japs make are certain foods, whiskey, and tattoos

>>28481154
Kek john lau is a cornball
He's where I got the idea for cars being pikachu as fuck from because he didn't even know what it meant

>>28481170
I will say he at least lives up to his name, as he does make all his cars look pikachu as FUCK bmaooo

>>28480873
>semi automatic
Flappy paddler cope
>Do you also get mad at actual race drivers using paddle shifting
No because they're sacrificing a lot of other things that prove they actually care about fractions of a second. Giving up all the soul and driving pleasure while retaining a/c and a moon roof is a bit different.

>>28481194
The soul of a car is its engine, not the transmission. And if you can ONLY derive pleasure from playing with a stick, you probably just don't really like cars

>>28481219
its a 4 cylinder, so, there's no soul there, either. its like someone just move the engine in the back of a grocery getter.

>>28480647 (OP)
I've no interest since the ICE A110 is already on it's way out, and Alpine has already praised themselves on becoming an EV-only automaker with their upcoming EV crossovers and A110 replacement.
If I wanted some special snowflake, lightweight MR '''budget''' European sports car with a paddle-shifted automatic I'd just get a used Alfa Romeo 4C instead anyway.

Matt Farah also isn't a journalist, I'd rather listen to anyone else than listen to this pretentious, wannabe-yuppie douchebag that knows nothing about cars flap his gums.

>>28481230
they won’t become EV only.
neither will the other manufacturers.
why? because they NEED to sell cars and EVs don’t sell.

>>28480647 (OP)
As an American I am too. I think I would honestly buy one.

*understeers*

>>28480659
:thinking emoji:

>>28481098
https://youtu.be/aLp8SISp4nM?

>>28480689
You're a yuropoor, either Arab or Indian. You can't even afford a toilet. Why would you care about cars?

>>28481651
cute car, I'd drive one with a supercharger

>>28481080
This but unironically. Americans only see stick manuals as something to brag about, while in reality it's just business as usual for europeans.

>>28482148
>stick manuals as something to brag about
It is, in performance cars.
>in reality it's just business as usual for europeans
It's not, in performance cars.

Europoors have it all backwards and Americans have it right. Autos go in econoboxes. Manual goes in performance cars.

>>28482589
>it’s not, in performance cars
because sticks are for economy cars.
performance = racing DNA = sequential = paddles = next best is a DCT or ZF8 for the consumer market.
simple as

>>28482595
No. Performance cars are all about driver engagement. Not just raw numbers. A nice TR-6060 is more engaging than a ZF8.

>>28481030
Well, it's quite a lot slower

>>28482619
No... Performance cars are all about PERFORMANCE. Which is literally just numbers

>>28482630
Then why does gma t50 exist?

>>28482630
That's unequivocally wrong. If that were the case, then every performance car would only have a single seat and be completely stripped out. And yet, most of them have leather seating, leather everywhere in fact. Sound deadening, suspension that is hard but not as hard as it would be for pure performance, sunroofs, 18 speaker audio systems with 2 subwoofers etc.

Experience and engagement is the primary purpose of a performance car. Numbers just assist in that experience and engagement.

>>28482641
The GMA T.50 is a sports car

>>28482647
>nooo consumer cars are made for consumers!!!
Performance cars are made to PERFORM. That's why the fastesr cars on the Ring aren't manuals lol

>>28482619
Performance means being fast. You are faster with paddles. Hence why all modern race cars use sequential paddles, except rally and drift cars for obvious reasons

>>28482619
Spoken like a true armchair driver.
It's all about bragging with americans.

>>28482661
The vast, vast majority of performance cars are consumer cars. If it were solely about performance, performance cars would be pic related.

>>28482662
>Performance means being fast.
Not solely, as I already illustrated.

>>28482666
I said numbers aren't the end all be all, that's the opposite of benchracing you fucking retard.

I wonder why professional race drivers opt for paddles in their private cars, such as the kino PDK.

>land of the free
>can't have it
Preposterous. Mutts are on an Israeli leash.

>>28482672
Yeah and a performance car with a manual that doesn't perform is a shitty performance car, regardless of engagement

>>28482677
Kek that thing actually looks pretty gay from the side godsdamn

>>28482681
0.3 seconds off your 0-60 doesn't make much difference.

>>28482677
Imagine T-boning that little shitbox in your chad Yukon XL Denali and killing the shitbox driver instantly. Fucking based.

>>28482685
And yet the fastest cars on the Ring aren't manuals

>>28482696
Nice reading comprehension, ESL.

>>28482699
And yet the fastest cars on the Ring are NOT manuals kek cry pussy slowfaglet boyracelet

>>28482701
>just starts melting down
lol

>>28482630
>>28482661
>>28482681
>they're actually coping this hard over why they're """driver's car""" has less driver engagement

to add insult to injury, a Camaro is faster than this thing WITH a manual. so can we all agree that its shit? it has a """performance""" transmission and lacks performance, and a Camaro is faster while still being more driver focused. you can't make this shit up.

>>28482707
How so?
>>28482941
camaros are ghetto as fuck and are only driven by mexicans and muslims THOUGH