Thread 28485797

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>>28485797 (OP)
>lime rock park
>does not actually contain a single limestone building

>no 720S in the OP
somebody make a new thread

are there racing games with realistic crashes where ramming another car or hitting the barriers means you're effectively done?

>>28485876
beamng

>>28485876
dirt rally 2.0

>>28485797 (OP)
is the "lime rock mountain" part of the circuit real or just game version?

I love Beamng Drive so fucking much

Simcades are just simulators that traded autistic diminishing return details in physics for SOVL + an actually fun videogamey career structure/progression. You can't prove me wrong, there isn't a single ''true sim'' that isn't a glorified soulless software in its base state (of course it can turn into something else if you mod it out the ass).

start playing iRacing

>>28485876
games with crashes that actually have consequences are for autists

Tonight we're racing Citroen C1's that have tunaris K11 Micra physics from a REAL RACE CAR. Links in chat league-schedule.

>>28486270
GT7 is probably the best road car sim. a lot of the assetto corsa mods just have really fucked up physics or ffb for road cars. AC Evo might change things up though

post your thrustmaster setup

>>28486389
>a drink button on a fucking toy

>>28486474
sounds like mozachuddie cope

>>28486389
Wheel is TM pedals are fanatec

>>28486389
>post your thrustmaster setup
I can't because it went in the trash a decade ago.
Sure, it wasn't one like you posted but it was a "decent" one and the retarded unreliability of it made me lose all interest in that brand.
Got a cheap L-word wheel second hand after it and it never had any problems.

>>28486652
not reading a reddit wall of text
please go back and stay there

>>28486652
>I read this

>>28486652
It's okay the chance of a woman entering my bedroom was low before simracing anyway

>>28486653
>retarded unreliability of it
i have literally never had a major issue with a single tm wheel ever
they are stupid reliable
i also have two broken logitech g29s that were a warranty replacement for a g27

Lambros…
we did it (:
BMWankers BTFO

>>28486659
the new cheapo wheels they made to replace the t150 are unreliable apparently. other than that they are really good, except for the ffb fade on t300s but thats why you go for a ts-pc/tgt instead

>>28486652
rigs are dumb and also gay
the best wheels have desk clamps for a reason

>>28486664
lol
might as well use a controller

>>28486663
i have done things like played nfs heat, txr, or ac for 14 hours just straight croozin and the ffb never fades
like i am pretty sure i spent at least 24h just hotlapping the t180 test track when making my camaro and it didn't even flinch
i do run it at 75% power thoughbeit and i did get it to fade once on purpose doing equipment testing for the nords 24, running on full power doing like baja 1000 shit in beamng for like 2 hours will eventually cause it, and if you keep going after it fades it will just cut off, but i've never actually had this happen while racing, literally only during peak retard shit like yeeting trophy trucks across the desert, and only at absolute maximum ffb force.

you could just remove the thermistor from the motor heatsink and run the thing till it catches fire as far as i can tell

>>28486668
controllers are epic mega gay, they have 0 precision and 0 simulation value
if a guy says his hobby is cars and he plays racing games on console with a controller he is probably going to be a lazy person, a liar, and a pathetic scrub faggot in the relationship as well.

>>28486662
>won by J Dubya Pepper

Polyphony, hire this man!
https://youtu.be/w69A6RcsnHM

>>28486742
i dont want bikeslop

>>28486270
I hate the term simcade. It was made up by shitters that had to cope their "hardcore" sim was made accesible for controllers. Looking at you Forza fags..
Pure arcade racers are the peak of fun and sovl. GRID being the absolute pinnacle of arcade racers

>>28486793
same
simcade is a fake word because a literal arcade game can also be a full on autism-tier simulator and even an autistic hardcore sim like beamng, ac, or rf can be fun and wacky. "simcade" is just a slur for a racing game with low simulation value but high fun quotient.

>>28486793
eh both the motorsport and GT series are simcade. I think it's a fair term for the middle ground between arcade games like horizon and full sims like AC

>>28486845
no it's not a fair term because it implies that the games are not simulators at all but some kind of weird larp.
any game that physically models a powered 4-wheeled vehicle is a simulator. the only way to make a racing game that is worth playing at all is to actually simulate the behavior of a real live automobile because the behavior and handling dynamics of cars are what makes racing interesting. some games cut out or tweak a huge swathe of "simulation" like fuel usage and tire wear in order to make the game more accessible or fun but they're still ultimately simulating a car. thus simcade does not exist. in a sense, "arcade" also does not exist, because those games are still simulators, but we know that saying a game is "arcade" defines more than just the way the cars behave but the way the whole game plays. "Simcade" games are NOT arcade games, they are designed for multifaceted long play sessions with some sort of skill-building or functional exercise exactly like a simulator is. in fact i'd say games like prostreet, grid, forza and gt are explicitly simulators specifically for the fact that they let you simulate actually owning a car or being a real racing driver rather than simply picking things from a menu and jumping straight to racing a la ridge racer.

whiplash is simcade

>>28486870
sims like ac are arcade because you just pick a car and a track like in daytona usa

GT7 is a simulator because you have to spend money on the cars before you can drive them

>>28486887
iRenting is also a real sim for this reason because you have to pay real money for cars, and real money for the privilege to race on a track

truly the ultimate simulator

>>28486887
>sims like ac are arcade because you just pick a car and a track like in daytona usa
daytona usa has modelled damage affecting handling, tire wear, and drafting therefore it is a simulator.

>GT7 is a simulator because you have to spend money on the cars before you can drive them
that was my point
even if the physics are not perfect and you don't have to deal with autistic shit like paying road taxes or refilling washer fluid it is 110% a simulator

>>28486895
it is kinda the pinnacle of what a motorsports sim aspires to be. one may not agree with its pricing model but then look at the "pricing model" of irl racing and it ain't so bad

>>28486884
whiplash is a simulator in so many ways it isn't funny
>you absolutely HAVE to use the pits and think about damage reduction strategy, gamble one more lap you won't run into bob or worse one of the reises
>the japanese auto industry is literally in the process of forming zizin irl
>the cars are hydrogen-based which is why they rev to 60,000 rpm, go 200+ mph and explode violently when you look at them funny
>the ai does an excellent job of simulating sentience

like ok even for '95 it's not really got the fanciest physics or the best graphics but it sure as fuck simulates near-future f1-rallycross death racing to a degree that would be nearly impossible to cram into a new game today

>>28486932
hydrogen cars dont explode albeit

>>28486346
Indeed, GT7 does a lot of things right. Shame about the career structure falling in the shadow of GT4, and overpriced cars demanding ridiculous grind to get. Still, there is no other game that comes close to it, Forza Motorsport is a joke now.

>>28486793
We don't have to fully agree with those terms to understand what people mean by them. Its still a useful way of categorizing games as different from each other like Sega Rally and RBR. I personally prefer the challenge of taming realistic cars with sim-like physics, but in a videogamey career structure instead of being limited to doing autistic hotlaps in sims or playing multiplayer. GT7 with GT4's career would be a perfect game for me, just like Dirt Rally 3.0 with better tarmac physics, a GT style career, more locations and licensed WRC cars. Its so rare to find a game that has the best of both worlds. I still enjoy arcade racers, though. Burnout Revenge is in my top 10 games of all time and I play it from time to time in PCSX2.

>>28487050
I was recently playing Burnout Dominator, which I never liked all that much compared to Revenge, and noticing its upsides: the car handling is much tighter and responsive, even the early game cars feel almost as fast and responsive as the late game cars from Revengeance. The stages are not as well designed but they have more extreme arcadey long S turns for extreme drifting at high speeds that are a lot of fun. The graphics are much worse for some reason, and the game lacks a defined, memorable style when compared to Revenge, but it isn't outright ugly or anything. The soundtrack has a lot of the same tracks, but some bangers were cut out (like An Honest Mistake) and replaced for some meme tracks (HEY HEY YOU YOU I DON'T LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND!). Also, the removal of traffick check and traffick attack are crimes. In short, it has better handling (which arguably is the most important thing in a racing game), a good new mechanic in chain link boosts, but worse everything else. Still worth cheching out.

Anyone find anything good from summer sale?
I tried overdrift festival but it's online only and I didn't care for the handling

>>28486652
>vet out their partner
stopped reading there

>>28487111
ams2

>>28486870
no you're wrong, it's a simulator or not based on the physics and how accurately they try to model real life. GT and FM are simcade because they are still not that extreme on the realism, recognizing that they are catering to the console audience a large number of which play on a controller. The real sim games you effectively CANT play on controller and that's the way it should be. Just because you go down this autistic spiral on a word doesn't mean everyone else in the world doesn't understand it as well, part of dealing with your mental handicap is accepting that

>>28486652
holy REDDIT

>>28486652
>I let women dictate my hobbies, priorities, actions and way of thinking
>please, spare a crumb of pussy, m'lady?

This is the most beta cucked thing I have ever read.

>>28487169
>it's a simulator or not based on the physics and how accurately they try to model real life
this is wrong because as technology improves the ability for developers to simulate more and more aspects of a car will only increase
by your logic geoff crammond's gran prix series are not simulators because they are not as accurate as rf2 or don't simulate as many systems as beamng.
things are a simulator or not based on if they feature a real life concept such as a real sport or profession, how accurate it gets isn't relevant.
there is nothing in the definition of the word simulator or the genre of simulation games that implies the thing being simulated even has to be real. elite dangerous is a space simulator set in the 34th century AD, a date that hasn't even happened yet. it features a simulation of the actual milky way that was generated from a realistic simulated galactic genesis. it has realistic relativistic spaceflight and spacecraft. it has a simulated economy, simulated societies, and even attempts to simulate faster than light travel and parts of our galaxy that we can't even see. by your definition it is NOT a simulator, because it's so far from "real". The things it's simulating are theoretical. that is the point of a simulator, not to see how "real" you can make the simulation but to explore how you can make the things being simulated real.
another example: sega's arcade game 18 wheeler american pro trucker is NOT a simulator because it makes no attempt to simulate actual trucking, it's just a fun racing game with semi trucks. But you can play ETS/ATS exactly the same way and it is still a simulator.

>>28487185
the lion rapes the sim rig

>>28487050
>We don't have to fully agree with those terms to understand what people mean by them.
i am opposing the use of "arcade" and "simcade" being used by shitters as slurs against games they got filtered by as if being more or less realistic would have helped them not realistically suck ass.

Too autistic to enjoy most games, not autsitic enough to be good at automation. Why is it so damn hard.

>>28487300
Just set the date to the 80s and everything just fits.

>>28487300
Fine, I have bought your game.

How do I stop being slow?
Best I can do is consistent 8:30s @full burgerking (with gp track) in a 911 GT3

>>28487392
i want to start in the 40s but the factory shit confuses me. maybe tutorial watching tyime

>>28486270
beamng has soul but in a german way

>>28487392
Every time I did an Automation campaign attempt I failed to make any money with my second round of models. And I wasn't going overboard and making unmarketable bullshit, either.
>>28487418
Combination of bravery and maybe trimming some drag (downforce) out of the car.

What is the issue with the physics in iRacing? i can't seem to put my finger on it compared to other sims.

>>28487520
Loss of grip is very sudden and thus more or less unrecoverable
Cars bounce off each other like we're still playing NR2003
And of course the netcode is asscheeks

>>28487518
Can I adjust the downforce in ACC? That’s what I’m playing.
In GT7 I’m much faster (so are the GT3 cars for some reason) as it’s much easier than ACC

>>28487527
You can but be careful with it because the 911's (especially on the Hurrdurring with mandated 70mm ride height) have a habit of being unstable transitioning from one corner to another
I haven't played GT7 but I'm assuming the tires are just crazy sticky in that game

>i got soul (i got soul) and im super bad
auto video games for this feel?

>>28487549
yeah tires are sticky in GT7, that’s why I actively choose less sticky compounds instead of racing slicks. these are overpowered. granted, GT3 cars are pretty damn sticky

>>28487549
I can drive other cars too. I probably do even better in the huracan GT3 evo 2 than in the 992 GT3 R. I just like the feel of rear engines

>>28487551
Uhhhhh
GT Spork

automobilista 2 a cop or nah

>>28487527
Racing slicks have too much grip in GT7 and aren't really that realistic. GT has never really done race car physics right in general

>>28487761
fun physics and nice graphics but the tracks look really weird, like I'm playing a sim title from the 2000s

the RS3 in AssEvo is kind of ludo

>>28487551
vigilante 8/interstate 76/i82
driver sf
stunt racer 64

>>28487551
GT4 because of its awful physics. GT2 mogs it hard

>>28486268
Okay now re-enact that one retarded jump maneuver at the hair pin in that one episode because I sure as fuck didn't understand it

>>28486747
The only good motorcycle game I've ever played in the past 2 generations is Driveclub

>>28486793
>>28486839
>>28486845
""sim racers"" use the word simcade to describe any car game they don't like

simcade arcade simulator it doesn't matter when you all suck and I would whoop your ass in racing games

>>28487799
yeah, forza is simcade but gt is full simulator like iracing

what’s the appeal of driving the same circuits over and over and over again, using the exact same driving line?
Don’t you feel like a literal NPC?

about to fall for the heusinkveld meme so i can get through a 40 minute sprint in iracing without spinning out a gt3 thanks to the slip n slide tire model

>>28487817
it’s virtually impossible to make a gt3 car spin out

>>28487819
not in iceracing

>>28487820
how in the fuck?

>>28487789
i have tried to do it several times on the irohazaka map and while sure it's technically doable, it requires such an aggressively early braking and a sharp turn while still travelling downhill that you're not going to actually get ahead of the leading driver because you have to enter the corner very slowly and basically do half a u-turn and go back up the hill you just came down in order to leap off the berm in the correct direction. it's a REALLY high berm too, not the little leap initial d makes it seem

>>28487822
shitty physics

>>28487816
you just dont get it

>>28487829
I thought iRenting had the best physics in sim racing?

>>28487840
it absolutely does not. what it does best is multiplayer racing.

you know i used to make fun of you irenting retards for your physics, price model, ect. without ever trying it but i took the plunge and i take it all back. now i am debating if i should start buying more cars or if i should get more tracks

>>28487867
just buy the tracks you like or look at the schedule for the series you'll be racing in for the season

You know, I used to make fun of you irenting retards for your physics, price model, ect. but after subbing several times over a decade and buying a bunch of content I still make fun of you.

>>28487867
good goy, very good.

>try iRacing
>it’s shit
>uninstall after an hour of fooling around
>money stolen

>iRacing
>it's kino
>stay subbed after thousands of hours of wrecking on t1
>money stolen?

What pisses me off the most about iRenting is the whole UI and how I need my mouse and/or keyboard to navigate it.

>>28487904
so just like any other sim on pc?

>>28487905
nah. acc and ams2 work perfectly fine with the controls on the wheel alone

check em

>>28487982
later

Why did it flop so hard?
On paper, it's the perfect game for the modern car enthusiast.
Barely a month after release and nobody cares anymore.

>>28488068
It didn't flop it just filtered out the shitters

>>28487816
>Don’t you feel like a literal NPC?
Not really

>>28488068
>not a japanese game
>drifting in tight spaces is a big shitter filter
>no multiplayer

we need iRally

a rally game where you can't slide would be so iKino

>>28488207
>t. kylotonn employee

>>28488207
>>28488179
close enough

is Motor Town as cozy as it looks?

>>28488261
not cozy at all
at best it's like hooning through ghost town

coach dave loves the rs3 in AssEvo too

>>28488179
irallycross is already the worst offroad racing experience in shitulator history they should try one-upping that

>>28488068
I'm not trusting a bunch of poles to do justice to the japanese street drifting scene

>>28488068
Before release I always thought everything about it reeked of indie shovelware. Well, how is it? How can indie shovelware pull off the Forza Horizon template?

I have a confession to make
I play on easy mode because I am bad at racing games

>>28488547
why don’t you improve?
I’m really bad at trail braking too (I try to blame it on not having a load cell brake) but I’m improving

>>28488547
same but i intentionally put myself at bottom split in gt7/iracing so i have easy mode activated for multiplayer

>>28488580
>why don’t you improve?
I dunno, I'm not explicitly terrible and I'll play at higher difficulties up until I start getting owned
at that point I lower the difficulty

just saw the F1 movie last night

they had an imsa race with GT3 cars at the daytona road course in the intro, the amount of wrecking and chaos reminded me of bottom split irenting lobbies

>>28488764
lower TC and ABS to a minimum if you’re racing GT3 cars

heusinkveld pedals just shipped. i'll let you guys know if they're worth the $700
>>28488822
i cant drive a GT3 on lower than TC4 or TC3, but i've only been driving the NSX as of late

Whatever happened to that tranny Racecar

>>28485797 (OP)
iRacing is best. Sorry but it’s true >>28486271
Shall we make a GT3 league
>>28486389
I have a T300 with sparco wheel and load cell pedal if anyone wants to buy for like $150 let me know. I want to upgrade up a level.

>>28487820
If it makes you feel better I do that all the time too. Their tires are just too low grip, especially when cold. I agree that with a GT3 with the diffs and the TC it very hard to spin in real life.

>>28487867
Tracks for sure. I have a GT3 a GT4 and a TCR and few randoms but really it’s best to just master your favorite brand and ignore the rest bc there’s not enough time in the day to learn them all at competitive levels. Esp if you do your own setups

>>28488963
i wasnt the one driving that porsche lmao, i just saw it happening in front of my eyes. on brands hatch this week, it's ALWAYS a porsche spinning out on t1 with cold tires. never seen any of the MR or FR cars doing that unless you go full retard.

>>28488968
I for some reason do it on that exact turn in the R8 as well but NONE of the others. Well, let me rephrase. I’ve done it multiple times this week but not every time. Just have to be careful there.

For reference I have tracked many times IRL and iRacing is much harder. Doesn’t bother me as if you can lap in iRacing without errors you’ll be totally fine IRL.

>>28488978
Yep, you get way more information IRL than in a sim
Even with those ridiculously expensive rigs with hydraulics and other shit
With a sim, I don't feel how hard I'm turning in my shoulder, to give one quick example

>>28488984
Yeah you have to learn to hear the audible sound they add when the tires are at their limit and all this. I still prefer iRacing to the other sims but iRacing does need an engine overhaul. It looks old and I still maintain the sky is the worse part. Looks like 2003 when they could be doing dynamic weather that’s localized to real time tracks and have high quality skies. Their current sky is so shit it makes the shitty trees and all that look so much worse.

>>28488978
i've spun out a few times on this corner this week, and it has been happening more often as i've done hundreds of laps this week alone and my limbs are aching. I don't know how people do endurance races in this sim when you literally need to drive perfectly as there is no room for mistakes

the car was starting to slide so I tried to correct it, but looking at my inputs it seemed i just turned the wheel way too much

>>28489003
I thought the tyres were supposed to be fixed this update

>>28489003
wow you fucking suck

>>28489065
idk, catching slides are a lot more intuitive in other sims. iracing just has really dogshit physics. i can basically powerslide the C8 corvette GT3 in ams2 into every corner

>>28487195
again you're completely missing the point. it's the intent, where the developers are attempting to mimic realism as much as possible. Just because certain games do it better doesn't mean others aren't actually sims because of it. Games that knowingly cater to a more casual audience, through being on console and having controllers as the main input method, are by definition simcade because they are purposefully making concessions on realism to provide a more enjoyable game for controllers and casual players.
>by your logic geoff crammond's gran prix series are not simulators because they are not as accurate as rf2 or don't simulate as many systems as beamng.
no that's not even close to what my logic is implying, it's your autistic viewpoint being warped into something else because you cannot accept that some games are intentionally trying to be as realistic as they can be and others are supporting a more casual audience and thus scaling back on the realism behind handling, dynamic track conditions, tire and mechanical wear, etc.

Simcade exists and is accepted for everyone except you, and you're not going to change a whole industry because of your autism

>>28488943
TC2 should be off btw. TC1 on setting 1-3 depending on car and track.
ABS on setting 1 or 2.
then practice trail braking

>>28489003
let the car be a little looser, don't countersteer so hard
it almost looks like an invisible truck smashed you out of the track

wow this is not creepy at all

just a warning to anyone that wants to try this shit, when they ask for your credit card name, that's the name that is going to be used in the game

also this game is fucking garbage, MX-5s don't handle like that all

>>28489156
>asslunatic69

>>28489156
lmfao, filtered

you wouldn't have made it out of rookies anyways

>>28489161
I already did nigger
but some retarded spic crashed me out in my last race and I crashed out of this garbage game

>>28489168
>R rating for retarded
kino

>>28489172
yeah well they're americans after all

>>28485797 (OP)
Has anyone tried CarX Street on PC? Am I right in realizing the game does not support wheel buttons to navigate through the game like on a Logitech G923? There is no settings for it and it's not recognized automatically.

>>28489272
use ur mouse if you're going to be playing on pc

if you want things to just werk then console is for you

>>28489168
maybe start from the pits instead of racing mongoloids at the beginner licenses

drifting in prostreet feels so good but half of the drift tracks are dogshit

>>28487761

Definite cop. I got the $4 version on Steam and it has a ton of tracks and cars even with no DLC. Stuff like v10 and v12 F1 cars, Group C, etc. It even has fucking 3 or 4 classes of go-karting.

The force feedback feels better than any other game I’ve played, and was one of the first times where I actually understood what them car and tires were doing.

I will probably end up buying the DLC complete package, but even its minimum, there is a ton included.

>>28487789
thats from an ancient youtube video

>>28487551
>Yes i will add James Brown to my autistic simracer

>>28489602
that episode of initial d predates the creation of youtube

>>28489788
im talking about the beamng clip

>>28489790
also it was in the third stage movie not an episode

>>28489272
yep that's right, you have to use the mouse for menu nav in that game
i also found it kind of annoying you can't so much as confirm things with the wheel buttons.

>>28489095
>again you're completely missing the point. it's the intent, where the developers are attempting to mimic realism as much as possible.
> Just because certain games do it better doesn't mean others aren't actually sims because of it.

that is literally exactly a carbon copy of precisely what i said you complete fucking jackass

>Games that knowingly cater to a more casual audience, through being on console and having controllers as the main input method, are by definition simcade

wrong
wreckfest for example is extremely casual and i would still call that a simulator

>no that's not even close to what my logic is implying,
that is exactly what you implied and now you're trying to walk it back by agreeing with me despite being too stupid to realize that's what you're doing

> some games are intentionally trying to be as realistic as they can be and others are supporting a more casual audience and thus scaling back on the realism behind handling, dynamic track conditions, tire and mechanical wear, etc.

compute is not infinite thoughbeit, scaling the scope of a simulator down so that it's a chris harris hotlap experience that runs good on many kinds of hardware and not an all-encompassing gpu melting motorsports simulation doesn't make it not a sim, that would make assetto corsa not a simulator.

>Simcade exists
no it doesn't

>and is accepted for everyone except you
if it was accepted, then why is it used as a slur to handwave games as being a different, fake genre from other games that might stand comparison? it's a milquetoast appellation.
simcade does not exist. it's either a simulator or it isn't and the vast majority of racing games unironically qualify as simulators.

>>28489792
that is an epinsode thoughbeit

>>28489842
its long albeit

>>28489851
not as long as my harbl

>>28489020
small indie dev please understand they are working on it since 2008

>>28489003
people dump their entire paychecks into a 22 year old game with physics like this just because they are somehow the only pc racing game with competent multiplayer

>>28490210
nothing is wrong with those physics
that poster is trying to play the game like it's project cars/ams2 and he doesn't know how to countersteer a gt3 because ian bell taught him wrong as a joke

>>28490215
>if you go 5kph too hot into surtees a racing car designed to be driven by literal retards will lose grip instantly
you're wrong slow and retarded please refrain from posting your ass takes anymore

>>28490217
>if you go into surtees 5 kmh too hot, misinterpret positive rotation as oversteer and suddenly overcorrect by steering to the right the car will go precisely where you directed it to go (off track, to the right)

>>28490221
the overcorrection was just as retarded as your takes are yes, doesn't change the fact irenting physics are literal dogshit

>>28490223
skill issue

>>28490221
i didnt "direct" "the car" to go anywhere. there is no "car", its a digital 3d model assigned to a physics object simulating a car in a program being projected on a 2d light panel. i merely moved a piece of plastic.

>>28490223
also it's almost impossible not to overcorrect a slide in irenting because you get zero feedback apart from visuals of the slide happening and no matter what the shitter did he wouldn't have caught an irenting slide since you your tyres turn into ice the instant they slip

>>28490226
proof?

>>28490227
>i lack the skillset to play this game and i need to improve

just say that it's less words than the cope you posted

>>28490229
this unironically
like every retard who crashes out in irenting or rf or ac whatever goes "this game is bad the physics are bad i had a bad time blah blah"
when it's really
"i am not good at this game please feel sorry for me"

it's not that different to any other racing game. if you are sliding around and spinning out you are a bad driver and having slightly stickier tires or more forgiving physics isn't helping you any because you're still slow

>>28490229
yeah I lack the skillset of expertly slurping up dogshit but you do you champ

>>28490237
you slurp up this mans slightly made dogshit thoughbeit

>>28490238
I'm not the anon who posted the webm still but yeah I slurp up gtr2 over irenting any day of the week

>>28490235
except irenting forces you to drive in a manner that is completely antithetical to any other racing game released since rfactor but you obviously don't know what you're talking about so no shame in not knowing that

>>28490241
it ain't gonna suck itself

>>28490246
chill out dave i know irenting is gay but didn't know it's this gay

>>28490245
>except irenting forces you to drive in a manner that is completely antithetical to any other racing game
no?
you just can't drive like a spaz

pcars/ams2 lets you drive like an absolute mongoloid and get away with it, it's the exact opposite and just as "unrealistic" but also, as demonstrated builds unreasonable expectations of other games that are not stolen gmotor v0.0.5 dogshit

>>28490251
>no?
yes, you're just so slow you don't even know how shitulators drive when going fast

>>28490253
my car is not backwards in the grass thoughbeit

>>28490256
mine neither I'm not touching irenting again because I'm not retarded

>>28490257
>i haven't played the game

thanks for admitting you were wrong

>>28490267
you missed the "again" unfortunately but thanks for playing even this was more enjoyable than irenting ever was

>>28490273
>again
aka
>i played it once in a dream

kita take your autism meds

>>28490290
>have "disability" called not giving a fuck
>the treatment is literally ww2 pervitin
>if that doesn't work there's "meth 2"
>and also "meth 2: the brood war expansion pack"

yeah no thanks doc i jacked off for 16 hours straight already this week i don't need to tear it off

kita you have been arguing with some other guy the whole morning, he wasn't even the one posting that webm. I'd like to see you try to drift GT3s in irenting like you do in rf1.

protip: it's impossible

>>28490365
i literally don't care
when will you retards learn that if you take up someone else's banner and try to argue on their behalf, you ARE them for the purposes of the argument. trying to deflect and cope later because you have been attacked, insulted, and made a fool of for something you didn't do is unironically nmp. you read the exchange, i would have said the same things to you, the other poster was merely acting as your strawman.
can't do the time don't do the crime dipshit

dont care

you haven't played irenting. you cant drive it like any other sim on the market today

>>28490373
>you haven't played irenting.
wrong thoughbeit

>>28490374
>ovals
lol

>>28490374
literally looks like nr03 with mods. embarrassing.

nvm thats the road course i just saw the american shitbox and thought it was an oval

>>28490375
>dayona road course
>oval

>>28490377
too late nigger i'm screencapping your fallacious post

>>28490376
thats what it literally is. you can't make a good sports car sim out of it. it's baffling that its the most active multiplayer sim on PC.

kita just put on a trip at this point so I can filter your posts

>>28490376
>literally looks like nr03 with mods
pure fucking sovl

>>28490385
seethe

>>28490245
which is funny because papyrus sims were dogged for being too unforgiving by the difficult=realistic 00s simboomer crowd and they made the ice physics for nr2002 in response to that, play nascar racing 4 and nr2003 back to back and you can experience the enshittification firsthand

>>28490392
also play f1 challenge and thank god after that someone made that bald faggot ian bell do a trackday in a ferrari that made devs realise that racing cars have grip

>>28490388
nr03 with mods is 2 gorillion times more sovlful than nr03 with mods but you have to give papyrus all your money constantly and they trap you via sunk cost fallacy

>>28490392
*too forgiving

>>28490396
>nr03 with mods is 2 gorillion times more sovlful than nr03 with mods

>>28490396
>...but you have to give papyrus all your money constantly and they trap you via sunk cost fallacy
yes

>>28490401
>>28490402

>>28490405
idiot

>>28490406
yeah

>>28490396
>but you have to give papyrus all your money constantly
other people did that and now they're making a new standalone nascar racing game so i really don't see the problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIi0bOxXlYY

kino

>>28489796
Thank you.

CSL DD 8nm is 20 bucks from fanatec rn get it while you can

>>28490540
kek i saw it and the porsche gt wheel was $4.99
the website went down for maintenance before i could order

>>28490543
makes me wish sim racing was cheap like back in the DFGT days

my faggot friend wont let me send him a free g29 that i never used

What’s the appeal of turnleft „racing“?

>>28490631
goin fast as fucc

>>28490631
racing against other people instead of mastering a track

>>28490653
mastering a simple track and the change of handling dynamics throughout a race
even on a fairly short oval every single lap the car feels different and the person who can adapt the quickest is the winner. it is the purest form of racing

just got these in the mail

what do i think of them

>>28490670
>it is the purest form of racing
That's drag racing

>>28490680
>one or no opponent
>no turns
wrong
it's skillful but it's not pure
oval racing is distilled
drag racing is boiled

>>28490686
Racing is about who is fastest, drag racing distills it down to the simplest equation.

>>28490688
but the fastest car or the person who left the line first is not always the one that wins, there is practical gambling involved. it's not pure.

>>28490680
What about the salt flats?

>turnleft is the purest form of racing
fucking kek my sides

>>28490688
but dragqueening compares cars, not drivers. shifting is not hard.
now dominating the burgerking, that takes skill AND a perfectly setup car

just finished putting them together

now time to mount them to my flimsy wheelstand

>>28490815
drag racing also doesn't really "race" the cars it is more of a time trial. it tests drivers' control but only in a short burst. oval racing takes immense stamina and concentration. any adhd monkey that can shift and keep a car pointed the right way can drag race.
real racing is multiple cars on one track, the fact that oval stock cars aerodynamically and physically influence each other to such a huge degree is why it's pure racing. like yeah ok nascar the organization is rigged but that's not the point.

>>28491121
Damn Niels are things so bad you have to shill on 4chan

>>28491198
lmao

good news, it works just fine on a wheelstand. just have to set it to 20kg for the loadcell, any higher is not really comfortable without an actual rig

>>28491131
>the fact that oval stock cars aerodynamically and physically influence each other to such a huge degree
Drafting is not exclusive to ovals, y'know

>>28491323
ah you’re the anon that got the GT3 wheel. I’m tempted to get one too.
also, do you use the rubber cone thing for the brake pedal or nah?

>>28491338
nvm you moved away from the doodoo stock pedals. I should do so too

>>28491341
if you mean t3pa, yeah I would use the conical brake mod since it'll help with threshold braking. i was using t-lcms before this but this feels a bit nicer. i like the GT3 wheel since it prevents me from turning the wheel too much on racecars since they got a lower steering lock. I use the round rim whenever im driving regular road cars

>>28491352
I see you have an aftermarket quick release mod thing too?
I bought a 3d printed one off Etsy it’s amazing

>>28491362
yeah its great. i fucking hate the screw for old TM quick release so this is a huge upgrade

Is there even a single street racing game that works well with wheel?
>NFS games all have fucked up sensitivity issues and require a bunch of tweaking
>even fully tuned, ffb is garbage or non-existent
>Forza Horizon is semi-functional on-road but also garbage ffb and sensitivity issues
>BeamNG is a glorified driving sim

>>28491369
Not really. Modded AC is your best bet

>>28491369
TXR

>>28491377
tragic

>>28491379
but at that point I could just play ac shutoko and not an early access game

Just imagine if we got actual street racing in GT8. PChuddies would seethe pretty hard

>>28491388
Not really
Even NFS went to circuit racing

>>28489560
rfactor, right? I recognise that ridiculous camera shake. You can turn it off can't you?

>>28490813
it descends from horse racing, unlike road courses which descend from peasants being whipped from town to town under threat of death if they were five seconds late

>>28491388
I'm just shocked nobody's really tried to make a good single player racing game in modern times
seems like the ones that do come out are centered around racing players online

>>28491443
15 years ago I told people that online was going to be a cancer that would end up absorbing every game
I was called crazy

>>28491446
I never really thought much about it desu
if I was a little zoomlet that still had gamer friends I'd probably love this everything online trend but I really only play single player nowadays
I've had to refund like 3 games so far thinking they were single player only to find out it was multiplayer only

>>28491369
carxstreet has excellent ffb

>>28491468
why would you buy a game without going even a cursory search on what the gameplay is?

>>28491484
but the game is shit.

>>28491488
because it looks cool and I can always refund it

>>28491498
that's some consumerist shit, alright

>>28491501
buying video games is consumerist shit in general
what is your point?

I love driving cars bros

>>28491493
the word you're looking for is kino

>>28491520
is single player a proper career type thing or just random races and unlocks?

>>28491529
it's kind of a nfsug/carbon clone with several different themed rival gangs to defeat. there are driver level based car and part unlocks similar to modern nfs but it also has extremely high simulation value suspension adjustment and fine tuning. for example, when you install an ecu the rev limit becomes customizable, when you install cams you can change the peak of the powerband. suspension allows full camber, toe, track and height adjustment. you can pick wheel size and tire size independently. it's actually sick as fuck

>>28491532
>extremely high simulation value suspension adjustment and fine tuning
can I ignore this and still win or is tuning a necessity?
sounds almost exactly like what I'm looking for otherwise

>>28491532
I had fun with that game but I last booted it up in October and haven't really missed it.

>>28491502
it's not consumerism to do your due diligance and actually research your purchases.

>>28491543
>actually research your purchases
yeah but this doesn't matter when I can literally play a game instead of research it, then get my money back if I don't like it

>>28491532
I wish someone would make a MC clone. I want lowriders and bikes.

>>28491546
>just buy it who cares
consumer whore

>>28491549
you are mentally handicapped and poor

>>28491550
conspicuous consumption to "prove wealth" is a poor person mindset

>>28491561
real wealth moves in silence (that's why you're still talking)

>>28491564
>t. alking

>>28491543
NTA but is giving the game a try and seeing how it plays knowing you can pull out and get your monety back if it's shit not research?

>>28491574
No, because you've already bought it and committed to it. Even if you get a refund, they still clocked a sale. it's quicker and easier to watch a video of gameplay and read a short synopsis online of the story. it's not 1997 anymore, you don't need to go to Blockbuster to rent a game to see what it's like.

>>28491601
>they still clocked a sale
what an autistic thing to care about lol

>>28491604
refunds aren't guaranteed, friendo.

>>28491611
they 100% are at under 2 hours of playtime, which is ample time to determine if you like a game or not, "friendo"

>>28491612
>steam
lol

>>28491617
>buying games from anywhere but steam
owning them on any other platform is pointless, just pirate it at that point
let me guess, you're some basedfag that wants to support le developers

>>28491620
I hate all the distribution platforms. Bring Back Big Boxes

I've tried Forza Motorsport on PC gaming Pass with my Moza R3 and...it has the most disgusting wheel FFB I have ever felt in my life, literally unplayable. What should I download if I want to play multiplayer on PC without having to pay the iRent? Preferably something newb friendly and with a solid playerbase.

>>28491657
multiplayer? honestly your only other choice is probably LMU, but i dont know if i would call it noob friendly

>>28491671
What about ACC? Or custom AC servers?

I would smoke all of you on any track in any game

>>28491388
GT is circuit autism,it will stay that way forever

>>28491707
Go ahead.

>>28491746
>b__z_l

>>28491746
For me it's Maria

>>28491534
you can basically ignore it sure but if you want to visually stance your car out or change the way it behaves in corners you might want to play with it because it is a 100% real sim in that regard. however i didn't find the ai or the routes to be particularly tough or require any special tuning. i think you'd really only want to mess with it for drift events. i personally like to slide around all the time, it makes the game harder.

>>28491536
i also haven't played in a bit because every patch is like "yo here's 2 new cars and 5 new features also we broke some stuff lol" and the next patch is like "we fixt the broke stuff but also there is a new beta release with a new feature please test it" so i'm just kinda waiting for them to chill out a bit. these webms were from january. i will absolutely give them credit, they fix bugs fast and add features and cars people ask for on the community page, you can freely participate in the beta program, and the game runs pretty good in general.

>>28491774
>i think you'd really only want to mess with it for drift events
having a drift car and a race car is my favorite way to play nfs games
think I will give this a shot tomorrow it sounds right up my alley, cheers

>>28491785
yeah if you like racing get the speedway dlc, it adds a wrl-style track and a gt3 car, i haven't yet so i can't speak for how fun it is thoughbeit

hey i mean brazilians are pretty fast. just look at ayrton senna or igor fraga. i usually avoid them online because of bad ping and they tend to be faster than me, but they also drive dirty

>>28491700
I like ACC but its multiplayer wasn’t anything like iRacing. Idk why nobody is willing to do scheduled races with practice lobbies. IRacing could easily be dethroned by Forza or somebody

>>28491443
sorry bud every game has to either be hyper competitive esports slop or 4-player coop friendslop, them's the rules

>>28491443
TXR widdewawy just came out

>>28491992
driving in a straight line isn't street racing

>>28492198
skill issue

>>28492198
the c1 is a technical high-speed course, only the wangan is a straight line (and even then it technically has a few corners)

>>28492200
>singular car in traffic every 5 seconds
wowow how intense

>>28492203
unironically a skill issue

>>28492205
oh my heck a vhs filter !
did u have some phonk playing too!!?

>>28492206
its a real vhs recording + /qa/ lost lil bro

>>28492206
i hate fake analog

>>28492200
This is just an HD version of that gamebrick bootleg portable.

>>28492217
VGH... 首都高バトル

finally got a handbrake for the rig

>>28492353
damn u suck ass

>bought a wheel/pedals and a shifter
>still use auto in everything but truck sim

>>28492391
not even sequential manual? i understand not wanting to use a dedicated shifter, but flappy paddles are easy to use and would make you faster over using auto.

>>28492402
nope, I'm just too autistic to shift and go fast simultaneously

>>28492474
How can you stand letting the car do the shifting? I literally can’t do it. Granted I’m a flappy paddle chud

for me, i shift with L4 and R4

>>28485797 (OP)
TURN 10 TEAM GOT SLASHED IN HALF

>>28492720
one step closer to total racing game death

>>28492723
Playground manhandled the main forza team into submission

hinrg attack mogs SEB so hard

total forza death

>>28492720
Surprising precisely nobody considering how poorly received FM7 and FM8 were.

>>28492720
they should cut even more of them
i never want to see nigger history month special events in my racing games ever again

I wonder what'll became of T10.
I guess they'll work on the engine and help PG with the Horizon series.

>>28492723
>one step closer to total racing game death
Gran Turismo marches on.

>>28492723
>Hello, Polyphony here, please accept this 8k laserscanned french box for free

>>28492720
they arguably haven't made a good FM since the 4th one. It has been downhill since the xbone games.

>turn a beloved racing game franchise into WHITE PEOPLE BAD corporatized story slop
>studio goes bust
poetic

>>28485797 (OP)
>wins by doing nothing

>>28493203
>sabotages its own career mode with caféshit
>questionable choice in car selection
>overpriced cars

Nah, even GT is on a downward spiral...

>>28493282
>questionable choice in car selection
>overpriced cars
Oh look it's GT5

>>28492720
pulled the fujimi kaido parachute too late

>>28493361
>>28493361
>>28493361

>>28492474
are you deaf
literally all you have to do to use paddles is listen to the car

>>28493203
no surprise given they added chinese cars