>In the entirely of japanese automotive history, there has never ever been a street legal production faster than the Corvette™.
>There never ever will be either.

how do respond without sound mad ?

>>28512068 (OP)
The NSX

>>28512111
original NSX was slower than the C5 Z06. GM however, respected the new one enough to benchmark it.

>>28512111
unfortunately it has a v6, so it's slow

>>28512116
The Z06 did not exist when the original NSX-R debuted

>>28512128
* the C5 Z06

>>28512068 (OP)

>>28512128
the original NSX-R was slower than the C4 ZR1.

>>28512132
I have no idea what a corvette „grand“ is but it mogged that gtr on track, as per usual

>>28512151
not tested at the burgerking, it took chevy 15 years to beat the NA1 by 1 second

>>28512158
Corvette Grand Sport LT2, or a C7 as you probably know. And it was slower on 2 of the 6 tracks listed, as well as being measurably slower in a drag race.

>>28512161
>the faster car wasn't tested
still faster.

the ZR1 c4 didn't even lap the ring in 7:04, that's literally a made up time lol

>>28512198
you can go with the 7:05 time that's still faster than any GTR if it makes you feel any better.

>>28512193

>>28512208
the car that set the supposed 7:05 laptime wasn't in production spec, What ZR1 c7 trim comes with these exhaust pipes?

>>28512217
the N attack wasn't, either. so we're good.

>>28512216

>>28512221
the N-Attack was, see >>28512198, wikipedia isn't a reliable source because it has the pre-producrion Lamborghini Aventador LP770-4 in the production section despite the fact that Lamborghini set the laptime on a car becore the official release, just like Nissan

keep trying

>>28512231
>see >>28512198
see pic related

R33 GTR was faster than the c5 and it was released 10 years before it lol

>>28512236
why are you posting a car on a different trim compared to the car that set the ring time? that car doesn't have this exhaust >>28512217

>>28512240
>to the car that set
supposedly*

lol

>ragequits
lol

Reminder that both the Viper GTS-R and Corvette C6.R were u n d e f e a t e d in FIA-GT.

Disregard all yurop and weeb posters.

>>28512237
>why are you posting a car on a different trim
why are you posting an N attack not in its 7:08 capable trim?
>>28512242
>supposedly*
>admits its faster in his own shitpost
>still trying to back pedal
lol

>>28512237
the R34 was slower than a cobalt, let alone the R33 being slower than the C5

>>28512253
this car has the Kit A N-Attack package, the same package that set the 7:08 time

>>28512253
>admits it's faster
where you retarded fucking kike? The image in the bottom post is of non-street legal or production spec vehicles, as none of the cars being compared to the SU7 Ultra that did 6:22, the Viper ACR, the C7 ZR1, and the Mustang GTD, are street legal

Fucking retard

weebs are so fucking stupid it's unreal. the nsx was a pig. the euro e36 m3 dumpstered it in literally every way possible.

>>28512261
>this car has the Kit A N-Attack package, the same package that set the 7:08 time
the car here>>28512236 can get 7:05 like the one jim mero drove.
>The image in the bottom post is of non-street legal or production spec vehicles
so you admit it got the time? thanks for clarifying.

Would you actually buy a car because it's the "fastest"?

>>28512255
the r34 did 7:52, no cobalt ever lapped the ring in under 8 minutes
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=uqjTj_6z6cQC&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=r34+gtr+nurburgring+lap+times&source=bl&ots=hDPqO8ybWD&sig=ACfU3U1yZpMTsOve5TuNT-Lng9o4e6Ui1A&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>28512266
>can get 7:05 like the one jim mero drove.
no it can't, it won't pass noise level regulations
>so you admit it got the time?
so you admit it wasn't production-spec?

>>28512275
>rent out track so noise restrictions aren't applicable
>set faster lap time in any GTR in your fully production corvette
non issue
>>28512275
>so you admit it wasn't production-spec?
same category as the GTR, or, if you want to use post production examples, it would also be production spec. either way, production spec or not, it's capable of 7:05 by your own admission.

>>28512279
>rent out the track
so you accept it isn't street legal then

>same category as the GTR
except the GTR that set the laptime record was in the same production spec as this street legal car >>28512261

>>28512284
>so you accept it isn't street legal then
but it clearly is>>28512236
>except the GTR that set the laptime record was in the same production spec as this street legal car
this car >>28512236 is capable of 7:05 just like Jim Mero's car.

>>28512285
Are you stupid? that car doesn't have this exhaust >>28512217, it can't be legally driven on the nurburgring
>this car >>28512236 is capable of 7:05 just like Jim Mero's car.
no it isn't, it won't pass noise level regulations

>>28512290
>that car doesn't have this exhaust
still capable of 7:05.
>it can't be legally driven on the nurburgring
it can, just rent it out like nissan had to do for the GTR.
>no it isn't, it won't pass noise level regulations
noise regulations aren't applicable on rented out tracks and tracks must be rented out to set lap times.

non issue.

>>28512301
>still capable of 7:05.
proof?
>just rent it out like nissan had to do for the GTR.
see >>28512284

>>28512304
cope

>>28512309
just ragequit instead of seething

>gtr so good it lead its entire company into bankruptcy

>>28512116
>hybrid corvette
I will now pass away

>>28512312
>>>/biz/
/o/ is for benchracing, retard.

>>28512312
you sneezing?

>>28512310
>having freudian slips so bad he makes a macro image admitting the C7 is faster

>>28512316
no street legal production spec c7 has ever lapped the ring faster than 7:08

the c7 that supposedly.did.7:05 doesn't have the same exhaust as the production version, raced a different layout of the track and Mero didn't even release a video.


retard

>>28512319
>that supposedly
here comes that back pedal

>>28512320
there is no undeniable proof it did, sorry you still can't have your silly little revenge against the GTR

>no street legal production spec c7 has ever lapped the ring faster than 7:08

the c7 that supposedly.did.7:05 doesn't have the same exhaust as the production version, raced a different layout of the track and Mero didn't even release a video.

>>28512324
learn to greentext you fucking retard

>>28512068 (OP)
How many fucking times does this thread need to be made?

>>28512323
>>28512324
>he took off his name to back pedal
i wonder why he doesn't post this image anymore.

>>28512330
GM fangirls must have their revenge on S/o/viet and Alphonse

>>28512332
because the SU7 did a 6:22 lol

>>28512335
more like because you BTFO the GTR with your own image. you could've easily edited the time for the xiaomi and kept posting it.

>>28512336
No i did not, that image has four non-street legal/production vehicles, the GTR NISMO Kit A N-Attack that lapped the ring in 7:08 is a fully street legal, fully production-spec vehicle

sorry you are too stupid to understand this.

>>28512340
>i
it*

>>28512340
btw, here's an image of the fastest street legal american cars being compared to the su7

>>28512340
>No i did not,
>"uh, it ACKTSHUALLY didn't happen"
>*proceeds to admit it did in an image macro*
>also
>i didn't make a mistake, i meant to do that
>*proceeds to never post that image again*
is this what its like to be buck broken by a retired boomer?

>>28512348
you are retarded, that's why you are unable to understand what is being discussed

Kissling motorsport c6 sp also lapped the ring in 7:04 but it is irrelevant to the conversation because it is a race car not a street legal car. Even the c6.r GT2 racecar is faster than the GTR Nismo but it is also not street legal or production

fucking retard

>>28512347
can barely do 2 laps, gtfo with that EV garbage

>>28512387
Just like the cuckvette then kek

>>28512068 (OP)
Armchair racer cope. You will never push any car to its limit, poser.

>>28512068 (OP)
The material, legal, and social conditions of that country make it so - don't be mad it is this way, for it was beyond our control, be happy there are many places across the world where one can experience such wonders. Same with America's less restricted access to guns - not many places a civvie can fire as many toys as we can. It's part of the nature and history of the world, and I guarantee you, the way things fell out become so because of the qualities of the peoples, and the going forth of history.

>>28512261
>the Viper ACR, the C7 ZR1, and the Mustang GTD, are street legal
Those ARE street legal you fucking muppet

>>28513320
No they aren't you fucking retard

>>28512881
>AAAARGH S/o/VIET!
Lol, you will eventually have your silly little revenge Poorez/ó/

>>28512335
Ah yes, the prestigious and highly contested "Nordschleife prototype vehicle" leaderboard...

>>28513350
that's where the Viper ACR, ZR1 C7 and Mustang GTD are

>>28513358

>>28513331
>Viper ACR
Could literally buy one from the dealership and register it
>C7 ZR1
See above
>Mustang GTD
Being sold right now and it's street legal
>>28513358
None of those are prototypes. Fun fact, the LFA Nurburgring Edition set a 7:14.64 with a cage, it's still a street legal car :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvXO1hUQtbk

>>28513419
>Viper ACR
$250,000 if you can find one
>ZR1
$200,000 if you can find one
>GTD
$330,000 if you can find one

>>28513446
>b—but they're expensive, so there!

>>28513501
The point being we will never afford them unless we sell our souls and/or live ascetic lives until we can afford one, at which point there will be none left

uh guys? op said WITHOUT sounding mad....
you've failed (like japan)

>>28513516
You're also never going to lap the Burger King ring at full send either.

>>28513988
That's fine, the assholes who drive to the Nordschleife and crash are always a spectacle.

There is no video of any production spec corvette lapping the ring faster than 7:08
These are just the facts
It's 2000+25 so every record lap should be video recorded, as that's how the team records their own cars performance
The only reason a lap wouldn't be recorded is if it were a tourist day in which case its nit a proper lap because it's only BTG

Who gives a shit about this track? I mean as some kind of benchmark. It's not a challenging track and it greatly favors horsepower, almost nothing else matters here.

Also, no one except people who have never been to a track in their life give a fuck about production car time attack, lmao.

It's not controlled. Different tires, different drivers and rarely ever elite ones, different weather. It's fucking meaningless and yet this board continues to sperg over the most trivial shit boy racer shit.

>>28514090
Oh, and also I'm trans, forgot to mention that. ;)

>>28514090
>and it greatly favors horsepower
Performance cars should be powerful.

>>28514100
Oopsie woopsie someone got triggered, was it the never been to a track in your life part sweetie?

>>28513419
>Could literally buy one from the dealership and register it
Doesn't fucking matter retard, the one that lapped the ring had a modufied interior, meaning it wasn't stock.
>See above
See above, the C7 ZR1 that lapped the ring wasn't stock, it had a modified exhaust
>Being sold right now and it's street legal
Doesn't fucking matter, the one that lapped the ring was a pre-production model, see >>28513358
Being a pre-production model is the reason why trannies in trannypedia and trannylaps claim the GTR wasn't elligible for the street legal/production category, why would it be any different for the Mustang

Fucking retard.
>None of those are prototypes.
The mustang literally was, I even gave you a screenshot from Ford themselves you fucking retard, the Viper and the C7 were not stock.

>>28512881
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!

>>28514164
>Doesn't fucking matter retard, the one that lapped the ring had a modufied interior, meaning it wasn't stock.
Adding safety equipment doesn't invalidate it being stock, retard faggot
>See above, the C7 ZR1 that lapped the ring wasn't stock, it had a modified exhaust
Irrelevant, and acting like that's a "GOTCHA!" makes you look even more of a faggot
>Doesn't fucking matter, the one that lapped the ring was a pre-production model, see
>Being a pre-production model is the reason why trannies in trannypedia and trannylaps claim the GTR wasn't elligible for the street legal/production category, why would it be any different for the Mustang
The N-Attack GT-R isn't in the street legal section because it was a prototype, it's in the other section because the kit makes it not street legal (specifically the hood gurney flap). Coping by posting photos of ones with plates doesn't matter, since in Japan you can run pretty much anything as long as it's factory and can pass shaken, and the one in the UK can get through as long as it passes MOT.
>The mustang literally was, I even gave you a screenshot from Ford themselves you fucking retard
Prototype =/= preproduction car, especially in the context of track days or racing.
>the Viper and the C7 were not stock
Literally irrelevant. Whinging about minor changes that don't affect the performance of the car because said cars just so happen to be faster than your precious not-street-legal Gay Tee-Arr makes you look like a gigaretard turbofaggot

how are ppl still so angry that the corvette outperforms the gtr

makes u wonder if they even have kids, or a gf

i wish i had enough money to afford any of these cars

>>28514270
>>28514199
>ARGH S/o/viet LET ME HAVE MY REVENGE ALREADY
kek
>>28514243
>Adding safety equipment
Except said safety equipment makes the car lighter, as a racing seat is lighter than a stock seat, a rollcage increases chassis rigidity and less sound deadning at the roof lowers the center of gravity

retarded wrenchlet faggot
>Irrelevant
nope, sorry, not stock.
>The N-Attack GT-R isn't in the street legal section because it was a prototype
so just like the Lp770-4 Aventador, yet the Aventador is in the street legal section, wikipedia laptime is unreliable garbage with no objective definitions
>it's in the other section because the kit makes it not street legal (specifically the hood gurney flap).
Except that's wrong retard >>28512261 that N-Attack GTR has the hood flap and can be driven on the street as it has license plates

fucking retard
>since in Japan you can run pretty much anything as long as it's factory and can pass shaken, and the one in the UK can get through as long as it passes MOT.
so it's street legal then, good job proving your own retarded argument wrong
>Prototype =/= preproduction car,
nowhere in my original post here >>28514164 did I ever mentioned the word prototype, learn to fucking read

fucking retard

>Literally irrelevant.
therefore the Su7 ultra being a prototype is irrelevant
6:22<any muttbarge, cope
>minor changes that don't affect the performance
confirmed for fucking retard
>not-street-legal ay Tee-Arr
except that's wrong you fucking retard

You are fucking retarded, which is a prerequisite to be a GTR seether so I am not surprised.

>>28512335
this thing was completely gutted, fitted with a cage and was on slicks
they did a run recently with the *actual* production version and it was 7:04.957

>>28514544
>this thing was completely gutted, fitted with a cage
so just like the Viper ACR then

>>28514538
>GTR seether
So you?

>soiviet shilling for chinks

>>28514538
>Except said safety equipment makes the car lighter, as a racing seat is lighter than a stock seat, a rollcage increases chassis rigidity and less sound deadning at the roof lowers the center of gravity
All of that is offset by the weight of the cage, and any chassis stiffness it might provide is minimal. You'll get a stiffer chassis by increasing the number and position of the welds.
>retarded wrenchlet faggot
I know you are.
>nope, sorry, not stock.
Still irrelevant.
>so just like the Lp770-4 Aventador, yet the Aventador is in the street legal section, wikipedia laptime is unreliable garbage with no objective definitions
Prototype =/= preproduction car
>Except that's wrong retard >28512261 # that N-Attack GTR has the hood flap and can be driven on the street as it has license plates
No plates are visible, and Nissan outright states the hood gurney isn't street legal
>fucking retard
Yes, you are
>so it's street legal then, good job proving your own retarded argument wrong
It is not
>nowhere in my original post here >28514164 # did I ever mentioned the word prototype, learn to fucking read
Cool story bro
>fucking retard
Yes it's clear you are one
>therefore the Su7 ultra being a prototype is irrelevant
Was a fully built race car on slicks, lap time is not valid as a street car
>6:22<any muttbarge, cope
Shilling for chinkslop (((EVs))) is turbofaggot behavior
>confirmed for fucking retard
Thanks for stating the obvious about you.
>except that's wrong you fucking retard
How is calling a non-street-legal car non-street-legal "wrong"?
>>28514546
>just like the Viper ACR then?
If you look at your own image you can see the Viper still has the majority of the interior. Gigganigga turboretard ultrafaggot

>>28514946
>All of that is offset by the weight of the cage, and any chassis stiffness it might provide is minimal.
confirmed fucking wrenchlet
>I know you are.
you don't even know how to weld TIG, weldlet wrenchlet
>Still irrelevant.
sorry, still not stock
>Prototype =/= preproduction car
irrelevant, being a pre-production car was enough for trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps to decide the GTR wasn't production, it isn't any different for the Mustang
>No plates are visible
confirmed for fucking retard
>Nissan outright states the hood gurney isn't street legal
and yet this one has the hood flap >>28512261 and has license plates
>Yes, you are
says the fucking retard that can't see the license plate here >>28514538
>It is not
yet there are N-Attacks driving in Japan with the hood flap >>28512198
>Cool story bro
learn to fucking read retard
>Yes it's clear you are one
says the fucking retard that can't see a license plate on the images above of N-Attack GTRs
>Was a fully built race car on slicks, lap time is not valid as a street car
which is why it is being compared to other non production street legal cars here >>28512332
>Shilling for chinkslop (((EVs))) is turbofaggot behavior
keep seething retard
>Thanks for stating the obvious about you.
see above
>How is calling a non-street-legal car non-street-legal "wrong"?
The Nismo N-Attack Kit A is street legal, retard
>If you look at your own image you can see the Viper still has the majority of the interior.
>majority
so you admit it was modified and therefore not production spec then, retard

[[[N]]]-attack, you say?
Those are common in Detroit, lolololo

This entire thread is fucking cancer. What the hell is wrong with you people? It's like you're having a contest to see who can act like the most spastic autist possible.

>>28512068 (OP)
Well, is it fun to drive?

>>28516446
>confirmed fucking wrenchlet
L M A O. Modern cars are stiff enough that a cage won't provide any meaningful increase.
>you don't even know how to weld TIG, weldlet wrenchlet
You're right, I don't know how to weld and that's ok.
>sorry, still not stock
Still literally irrelevant
>irrelevant, being a pre-production car was enough for trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps to decide the GTR wasn't production, it isn't any different for the Mustang
Except if you're not a blind retard fanboy you'll see exactly why the Gay Tee-Arr was in the "non-series/non road legal" section. It's specifically the hood gurney, not the preproduction status.
>confirmed for fucking retard
Yes, you clearly are
>says the fucking retard that can't see the plate here
The one of 2 USDM spec N-Attacks being driven on plates isn't a good case for the hood gurney being "street legal", same with the carbon buckets.
>which is why it's being compared with other non production street legal cars here
All three of those are production and fully street legal, cope harder
>keep seething retard
Yes please do, Gay Tee-Arr fanboy tears are delicious
>see above
Cope harder
>The Nismo N-Attack Kit A is street legal, retard
Hood gurney and CF bucket seats say "no, this is track only", and this is direct from Nigsan themselves. Cope harder.
>so you admit it was modified and not production spec then, retard
I'll repeat it again for the dozenth time: adding safety equipment doesn't mean a car is no longer "stock", especially for a track like the Nürburgring.
>>28516505
It's just Basedviet having a meltdown because multiple cars are faster than its precious GT-R

>>28516505
>you guys are fucking autists
>>28516796
>yeah but it's only the other guy!
>proceeds to spill autism all over the place

>>28516505
p's been puppeteering these mentally deranged autists for over a decade

i hate p personally but i must say he is a clearly a genius (and handsome )

>>28517754
(and is you.)

>>28517754
guilty as charge d

>>28514243
>Adding safety equipment doesn't invalidate it being stock, retard faggot
A roll cage does invalidate it from being stock... Roll cages aren't just safety equipment either, they also add rigidity.

I had a '14 GTR and now I'm buying a c7 Z06 and there is nothing and I mean nothing that any of you can do to stop me

>>28516796
>L M A O. Modern cars are stiff enough that a cage won't provide any meaningful increase.
fucking retard lol
>You're right, I don't know how to weld and that's ok.
then stop talking about rollcages you fucking wrenchlet weldlet
>Still literally irrelevant
nope, Viper was not stock, it's that simple
>It's specifically the hood gurney,
hood gurney is street legal, retard, see
>>28512261
>>28512198
>Yes, you clearly are
no, you are
>The one of 2 USDM spec N-Attacks
except one of those is in Japan, retard, where the hood gurney wasn't supposedly street legal
>same with the carbon buckets
Racetech carbon buckets used for the Viper aren't DOT certified, you fucking retard
>All three of those are production and fully street legal,
nope,
Viper had non DOT approved aftermarket seats
Corvette had a modified exhaust becausse OEM exhaust doesn't comply with noise regulations
Mustang was a pre-production model
>Yes please do
stop projecting
>Hood gurney and CF bucket seats say "no, this is track only",
not any different from Viper aftermarket Racetech seats or the Corvette's modified exhaust or the mustang being a pre-production model that literally means it can't ever be registered for the road
You'd know this if you weren't a fucking retard
>this is direct from Nigsan themselves.
Nope
>adding safety equipment doesn't mean a car is no longer "stock",
>modifying a car isn't modifying a car
kek, confirmed for fucking retard
>It's just Basedviet having a meltdown because
it's just BASEDviet buttblasting amerimuttoids like he has done for over a decade
>multiple cars are faster than its precious GT-R
I don't even like the GTR retard, fucking retarded newfag
>>28517754
>>28517783
remember when the entire board clowned on Poorezo? lol he hasn't recovered since and still wants to have his silly little revenge on me

Reminder prezo is dating an ex-onlyfans whore and is fathering her two bastard children lmao

>>28517989
>fucking retard lol
Disprove it then
>then stop talking about rollcages you fucking wrenchlet weldlet
I will not, because you keep insisting on it being a dealbreaker when OEMs and the 'Ring don't care
>nope, Viper was not stock, it's that simple
It quite literally was
>hood gurney is street legal, retard, see
See pic, DEBOONKED
>except one of those is in Japan, retard, where the hood gurney wasn't supposedly street legal
It isn't street legal in Japan either, that doesn't mean people can't get away with a lot of shit.
>Racetech carbon buckets used for the Viper aren't DOT certified, you fucking retard
Neither are the GT-R's carbon buckets. What's your point?
>nope,
There's no set definition of what is a "production car" for 'Ring times
>Viper had non DOT approved aftermarket seats
No worse than what the GT-R had in its attempt
>Corvette had a modified exhaust becausse OEM exhaust doesn't comply with noise regulations
Weird because of the multiple photos showing it with a regular exhaust.
>Mustang was a pre-production model
So were the Aventador SVJ LP770-4, Huracan Performante LP640-4, Merc AMG GTR Pro, BMW M4 CSL, and so on.
>stop projecting
Quit whinging about how there are cars faster than your precious Datsun
>not any different from Viper aftermarket Racetech seats or the Corvette's modified exhaust or the mustang being a pre-production model that literally means it can't ever be registered for the road
>You'd know this if you weren't a fucking retard
Already discussed, DEBOONKED
>Nope
Picrel, DEBOONKED
>kek, confirmed for fucking retard
It's extremely clear you are, keep going. This is funny to me.
>it's just BASEDviet buttblasting amerimuttoids like he has done for over a decade
>Sööyviet malding over a lap record that doesn't count in the way he wants is "buttblasting amerimuttoids"
Sure, and I'm fucking the prom queen
>I don't even like the GTR retard, fucking retarded newfag
Try to be more convincing, darling

>>28518241
>There's no set definition of what is a "production car" for 'Ring times
To branch off this, the Radical SR8 LM is listed under the "production vehicle" section despite it quite literally being a race car, and that is down to it having Dunlop road tires (Direzza DZ03s) and falling under Single Vehicle Approval in the UK.

>>28518241
>Disprove it then
you can't weld TIG
>on it being a dealbreaker when OEMs and the 'Ring don't care
except the ring does care retard, if your rollcage doesn't pass TUV inspections you can't drive on the ring
>It quite literally was
it quite literally wasn't, here's literal proof >>28514546
>See pic, DEBOONKED
that was only for Japan, retard, the nuurburgring is NOT in Japan, not like it matters because Japanese N-Attacks drive around with a hood gurney >>28512198
>It isn't street legal in Japan either,
see above
>Neither are the GT-R's carbon buckets.
that's wrong, retard, Stillen's N-Attack has the bucket seats and has license plates
>There's no set definition of what is a "production car"
so the N-Attack Kit A was a production car then, trannyes at trannypedia and trannylaps are wrong when they labeled as modified or non-production
>No worse than what the GT-R had in its attempt
Nissan offered those seats with the Kit A N-Attack, Dodge never offered racetech seats, a rollcage, a 6 point harness or less sound deadning, retard
>Weird because of the multiple photos showing it with a regular exhaust.
where are they? Can you also post a video while your at it?
>So were the Aventador SVJ LP770-4, Huracan Performante LP640-4, Merc AMG GTR Pro, BMW M4 CSL, and so on.
and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps

>Quit whinging about how there are cars faster than your precious Datsun
no american street legal production car is faster than the GTR, cope.
>Already discussed, DEBOONKED
kek you fucking wish, retard
>Picrel, DEBOONKED
kek, you fucking wish, retard
>It's extremely clear you are, keep going. This is funny to me.
nice projection
>Sure, and I'm fucking the prom queen
I bet you are because you sure love dressing like a woman you fucking faggot
>Try to be more convincing, darling
fucking retarded newfaggot
>>28518340
and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smYmuj6LVnE

>>28518887
>you can't weld TIG
Yes, that's stating the obvious.
>except the ring does care retard, if your rollcage doesn't pass TUV inspections you can't drive on the ring
Haven't we had this roundabout discussion before? The Viper's cage is legal, nor does it matter.
>it quite literally wasn't, here's literal proof
And again it's irrelevant considering there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car".
>that was only for Japan, retard, the nuurburgring is NOT in Japan, not like it matters because Japanese N-Attacks drive around with a hood gurney
The middle section is from RJN Motorsports (ones who did the UK examples) and Stillen for the bottom. It's not a street legal part no matter how you try and cope about it. That being said, that won't stop owners from driving on the street with it, much like all the "for off road use only" aftermarket parts that get sold in the US all the time.
>see above
Already DEBOONKED
>that's wrong, retard, Stillen's N-Attack has the bucket seats and has license plates
Already DEBOONKED
>so the N-Attack Kit A was a production car then, trannyes at trannypedia and trannylaps are wrong when they labeled as modified or non-production
They are not. Cope harder.
>Nissan offered those seats with the Kit A N-Attack, Dodge never offered racetech seats, a rollcage, a 6 point harness or less sound deadning, retard
Literally irrelevant, already DEBOONKED
>where are they? Can you also post a video while your at it?
They're freely available online, and no video of the Mero C7 ZR1 attempt exists.
>and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Because it isn't street legal in the configuration used to set the lap. How difficult is this to understand?
>>28518889
>no american street legal production car is faster than the GTR, cope.
Last I checked 6:52.072 and 7:01.3 are faster than 7:08, cope harder nigger.

>>28518889
>kek you fucking wish, retard x2
Still DEBOONKED, try again
>nice projection
Only person projecting here is you
>I bet you are because you sure love dressing like a woman you fucking faggot
What was that about projection?
>fucking retarded newfaggot
Kek cry pussy
>and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Literally per Nissan themselves it used non road legal parts to set the lap time. Cope even harder.

>>28512068 (OP)
Apples and Oranges, anon.
Honda's racing pedigree is in F1. Chevrolet doesn't even compete.
The NSX wasn't meant to compete with an American muscle car, it was designed to compete (kind of) with a Ferrari 348, while being a fraction of the cost.
Honda motors are legendary, easy to work on, and have outstanding hp to liter ratios.
Toyota, Nissan, and Mitsubishi also all have their own racing pedigree. None of them have ever competed with the Corvette or American muscle afaik. The closest you have is the R35 GTR and when it came out in 2007, it was faster than the Corvette in everything but top speed.

>>28518968
>Haven't we had this roundabout discussion before? The Viper's cage is legal,
proof?
>nor does it matter.
then so do the hood gurney and the bucket seats
> there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car".and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
>The middle section is from RJN Motorsports (ones who did the UK examples) and Stillen for the bottom.
that are ejust copy/pasting what Nismo.jp released here
https://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/2016/news_flash/16013.pdf
fucking retard
not like it matters because again, Japanese, American and Euro N-attacks are driving with both the hood gurney and the bucket seats
fucking retard
>Already DEBOONKED
kek you fucking wish, retard
>Already DEBOONKED
kek you fucking wish, retard
>They are not. Cope harder.
then neither is the Viper, which had a modified interior with aftermarket parts, the Mustang GTD, which was a pre-production model without a VIN that can't be registered on the road, or the C7 ZR1, which had a modified exhaust because the OEM one doesn't meet noise levels
>Literally irrelevant, already DEBOONKED
kek you fucking wish, retard
>They're freely available online,
not a single one of them show the red c7 zr1 without the modified exhaust
>and no video of the Mero C7 ZR1 attempt exists.
kek, because he tried to shill a fake 7:04 laptime
>Because it isn't street legal in the configuration used to set the lap.
and yet, N-attack Kit A Nismo GTR are seen driving around legally on that very same configuration in Japan, Europe and the US
fucking retard
>Last I checked 6:52.072 and 7:01.3 are faster than
last I checked the Mustang GTD was a pre-production model that makes it non-street legal and the Viper was modified with aftermarket parts, cope harder doublenigger

>>28519072
>Still DEBOONKED, try again
kek you fucking wish, retard
>Only person projecting here is you
nope
>What was that about projection?
you are the one calling yourself a woman, faggot
>Kek cry pussy
You can't even weld stick, much less TIG, fucking weldelt talking about rollcages LMFAO
>Literally per Nissan themselves it used non road legal parts to set the lap time. Cope even harder.
Ford literally stated the Mustang was a pre-production model
The people that crowdfunded the Viper attempt literally released video evidence that shows it was modified with aftermarket parts
GM didn't even back up Mero's fkae 7:04 claim and people took pictures of it showin it had a modified exhaust because the OEM one didn't meet noise level regulations

seethe you fucking retard

Oh. We gotta a full-blown pissing matching going on.

>>28519076
wait until I remind him GT3 GTR's are faster than anything American that has lapped the ring kek

>>28519083
>people are getting wrapped up and enraged in cars they don't own, didn't help design, from companies they're not apart of.
I will never understand this. I just want my honda to go a little bit faster and look a little bit cooler.

>>28519072
>proof?
Other threads about this, I can't be bothered to dig them up
>then so do the hood gurney and the bucket seats
Nigsan stated they're not road legal, quit trying to make this about the Viper
>that are ejust copy/pasting what Nismo.jp released here
>https://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/2016/news_flash/16013.pdf
>fucking retard
>not like it matters because again, Japanese, American and Euro N-attacks are driving with both the hood gurney and the bucket seats
>fucking retard
There are sedans chopped into roadsters and decatted cars driving around on Japanese roads with plates, that doesn't make the FOR COMPETITION USE ONLY hood gurney street legal. Cope harder.
>kek you fucking wish, retard x2
Still DEBOONKED, cope harder
>then neither is the Viper, which had a modified interior with aftermarket parts, the Mustang GTD, which was a pre-production model without a VIN that can't be registered on the road, or the C7 ZR1, which had a modified exhaust because the OEM one doesn't meet noise levels
All three laps are valid for production cars, cope harder.
>kek you fucking wish, retard x3
If you project any harder you'd be a movie theater
>not a single one of them show the red c7 zr1 without the modified exhaust
Plenty show C7 ZR1s without the extra pipes, since the video you're referring to is from a public session.
>kek, because he tried to shill a fake 7:04 laptime
Because GM didn't release the video
>and yet, N-attack Kit A Nismo GTR are seen driving around legally on that very same configuration in Japan, Europe and the US
fucking retard
Again, that doesn't make the FOR COMPETITION USE ONLY parts street legal
>last I checked the Mustang GTD was a pre-production model that makes it non-street legal and the Viper was modified with aftermarket parts, cope harder doublenigger
Last I checked it doesn't matter if the car is preproduction or not since there's no set definition. Nigsan also set their lap with a test car but that's fine in your eyes?

>>28519073
>kek you fucking wish, retard
Cope harder, faggot
>nope
Denial only proves it
>you are the one calling yourself a woman, faggot
I did no such thing, you're assuming I am one
>You can't even weld stick, much less TIG, fucking weldelt talking about rollcages LMFAO
And you didn't even know that the cage in the 2017 Viper attempt didn't increase rigidity at all
>Ford literally stated the Mustang was a pre-production model
Irrelevant
>The people that crowdfunded the Viper attempt literally released video evidence that shows it was modified with aftermarket parts
Irrelevant, cars that have run in the "production" category have done so with cages and aftermarket bucket seats and those still count
>GM didn't even back up Mero's fkae 7:04 claim and people took pictures of it showin it had a modified exhaust because the OEM one didn't meet noise level regulations
Noise regs only apply on public sessions
>seethe you fucking retard
Project harder, you're almost at IMAX levels

>Cope
>Seeth
>Denial
>Faggot
>Retard
This is the peak of arguments. I, an onlooker, am truly swayed by the clash of ideals here.

>>28519083
wait until you remind him that a faster GTR time doesn't exist and isn't acknowledged anywhere on the internet lol

The Viper using a cage doesn't fucking matter at all. Manufacturers do that all the time and they still claim the laps as being done by production cars.

>>28519098
>Other threads about this, I can't be bothered to dig them up
kek no evidence
>Nigsan stated they're not road legal, quit trying to make this about the Viper
Ford stated the Mustang wasn't street legal as it was a pre-production model
Racetech states their seats aree for
>that doesn't make the FOR COMPETITION USE ONLY hood gurney street legal. Cope harder.
Racetech seats used by the Viper are for competition use only too, you fucking retard
>Still DEBOONKED, cope harder
kek you fucking wish, retard
>All three laps are valid for production cars, cope harder.
Nope
Viper and Corvette were modified with parts never offered by the manufacturer
Mustang was a pre-production model
>If you project any harder you'd be a movie theater
cope on a rope
>Plenty show C7 ZR1s without the extra pipes
post them
>Because GM didn't release the video
because the 7:04 laptime never happened
>Again, that doesn't make the FOR COMPETITION USE ONLY parts street legal
>driving legally on the street doesn't make a car road legal
retard
>Last I checked it doesn't matter if the car is preproduction or not since there's no set definition.
and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production car by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
> Nigsan also set their lap with a test car but that's fine in your eyes?
it doesn't matter if you want to label the N-Attack Nismo GTR as non-production, which would auutomatically force you to put the Mustang GTD, the Viper ACR and the Corvette ZR1 in the same category, because in that same category there is a GT3 GTR that is faster than all three >>28519083

>>28519141
>>28519102
>Cope harder, faggot
seethe harder double faggot
>Denial only proves it
prove you areen't a fucking faggot
>I did no such thing, you're assuming I am one
You are a fucking faggot and I never assumed you were one becausee YWNBAW you fucking tranny
>And you didn't even know that the cage in the 2017 Viper attempt didn't increase rigidity at all
You have NEVER welded a rollcage in your life
You see this baby in pic rel? this baby has not one but TWO foot pedals, AC/DC, custom waveforms and a lot more shit that you have no fucking CLUE how to use, you have never EVER welded a rollcage faggot weldelt, shut the fuck up about rollcages not increasing rigidity because even bolt on wollcages do.
>Irrelevant
Nismo saying hood gurney and buckets seats being for competition only is irreelevant because people literally drive with them on public roads
>cars that have run in the "production" category have done so with cages and aftermarket bucket seats and those still count
and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
>Noise regs only apply on public sessions
public sessions are for street legal cars only, if the Corvette can't do a public session then it is not street legal
>Project harder, you're almost at IMAX levels
seethe harder while talking about rollcage as if you've ever notched a tube in your pathetic tranny weldlet life faggot

>>28519121
Corvette's 7:04 time doesn't exist yet the trannies at trannylaps have it on their list

>>28519133
and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production car by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps

>>28519141
>kek no evidence
It's there if you want to dig through archive sites
>Ford stated the Mustang wasn't street legal as it was a pre-production model
Irrelevant
>Racetech states their seats aree for
Again, manufacturers do this all the fucking time. It's an irrelevant point.
>Racetech seats used by the Viper are for competition use only too, you fucking retard
Irrelevant point, see above
>kek you fucking wish, retard
Still DEBOONKED
>Nope
Yes
>Viper and Corvette were modified with parts never offered by the manufacturer
Irrelevant
>Mustang was a pre-production model
Also irrelevant
>cope on a rope
Aww are your fee-fees hurt?
>post them
There's a couple in this thread, plus an entire video worth
>because the 7:04 laptime never happened
It did happen, you just choose to live in #69 Seethington Park, Denialton
>retard
Driving with off road only parts doesn't make those parts road legal. I fail to see how you can't understand this.
>and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production car by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Repeat: it was using non road legal parts. Same reason why the Zonda R isn't considered a road legal car.
>it doesn't matter if you want to label the N-Attack Nismo GTR as non-production, which would auutomatically force you to put the Mustang GTD, the Viper ACR and the Corvette ZR1 in the same category, because in that same category there is a GT3 GTR that is faster than all three
The Viper, C7 ZR1, and Mustang GTD are all road legal from the outset

>>28519143
>seethe harder double faggot
Try harder with the insults, darling. Faggot is so out of style now
>You have NEVER welded a rollcage in your life
>You see this baby in pic rel? this baby has not one but TWO foot pedals, AC/DC, custom waveforms and a lot more shit that you have no fucking CLUE how to use, you have never EVER welded a rollcage faggot weldelt, shut the fuck up about rollcages not increasing rigidity because even bolt on wollcages do.
I'm quoting what was said by people who worked on the Viper to prepare it for its lap attempt. Pretty sure the engineers who designed the fucking thing know more about strength and torsional rigidity than you do.
>Nismo saying hood gurney and buckets seats being for competition only is irreelevant because people literally drive with them on public roads
Cool, they're driving with illegal parts on. That doesn't make them street legal.
>and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Because it isn't road legal in the configuration used
>public sessions are for street legal cars only, if the Corvette can't do a public session then it is not street legal
Good thing it can!
>seethe harder while talking about rollcage as if you've ever notched a tube in your pathetic tranny weldlet life faggot
Dumbass nigger thinks I'm trans kek cry pussy

>>28519143
>Corvette's 7:04 time doesn't exist yet the trannies at trannylaps have it on their list
Kek cry pussy
>and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production car by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Not road legal, not a valid road legal lap

>>28519143
>You are a fucking faggot and I never assumed you were one becausee YWNBAW you fucking tranny
Not a tranny nor do I want to be one
>waaaaahh anon disagrees with me they must be a troon!
Kek cry pussy

thee corvette is faster than every street legal japanese production car and there is nothing anybody can do about that

lol

>>28519264
Chevy managed to make a faster car than most Japanese sportcars! Reliability? Pfft, who cares about reliability? Don't you want to buy m̶e̶x̶i̶c̶a̶n̶ american?

>>28519303
>modern Nissan
>reliable
HA

>>28519310
Please consult the chart, you cherrypicking faggot.

>>28519318
>Subaru
>most reliable

>>28519340
How many times have you taken in your clapped out ford to the mechanic this month, cleetus?

>>28519379
>and then one day for no reason at all.... people started making memes about how unreliable Subarus are.... even though they are the most reliable cars

>>28519384
I have never seen a subaru broken down on the side of the road.

>>28519387
>type "Subaru headgasket" into google
>0 results because Subarus are the most reliable cars

>>28519340
>Subaru headgasket
>>28519379
>>28519384
>>28519387
>>28519391

>>28519340
Mine just turned 230k the other day, still waiting on it to explode like you fags act like it should have done 15 times over by now.

>>28519406
>replaces 1L of oil every 3 months
>thinks subarus just run hot
>it's just a little oil leak
>the white smoke is only because it's a cold start
okay

>>28519423
Mine does none of those things but okay

>>28519406
Subarus are unreliable
>"but my subaru is reliable"

Based woman

>>28519436
if you insist

>>28519399
lmao that last sentence

>>28519440
I don't think a woman would want a 28 year old manual shitbox nor would they maintain it themselves but okay
>inb4 b-b-but you had to work on it that makes it unreliable
fixing a seeping differential cover on a nearly 30 year old car does not an unreliable car make, I just have a higher standard than most people with 28 year old shitboxes and don't just live with issues like that because I'm not a limpwristed useless tard like you

>>28519470
>xis feminine brain still can't comprehend the point

>>28519505
What point, you don't have one other than memeing

>>28519512
Subarus aren't reliable.

>>28519513
Source? Because mine is

>>28519214
>It's there if you want to dig through archive sites
so no evidence?
>Irrelevant
GTR being pre-production is irrelevant then
>manufacturers do this all the fucking time. It's an irrelevant point.
No they don't Nissan didn't add a rollcage or an aftermarket racetech seat on any of their nurbugring attempts
>Irrelevant point, see above
The hood gurney being for competition use only is irrelevant then
>Still DEBOONKED
kek you fucking wish, retard
>Irrelevant
The hood gurney being for competition use only is irrelevant then
>Also irrelevant
GTR being pre-production is irrelevant then
>Aww are your fee-fees hurt?
I pull the ropes here, I am the reason you are seething
>There's a couple in this thread, plus an entire video worth
>entire videi
that silver camo Corvette didn't do a supposed 7:05 laptime
>It did happen,
kek no it didn't
>Driving with off road only parts doesn't make those parts road legal.
Irrelevant
> it was using non road legal parts.
Just like the Viper using RaceTech seats
>The Viper, C7 ZR1, and Mustang GTD are all road legal from the outset
Nope

>>28519224
>Try harder with the insults, darling. Faggot is so out of style now
little fag is triggered by the F slur lol
>I'm quoting what was said by people who worked on the Viper to prepare it for its lap attempt.
post the source from where you are getting this quote then faggot
>Pretty sure the engineers who designed the fucking thing know more about strength and torsional rigidity than you do.
Yes, and in order for a rollcage to work, it has to be at least bolted to the monocoque, which automatically incresases body rigidity
>Cool, they're driving with illegal parts on. That doesn't make them street legal
if they weren't street legal they wouldn't be able to drive on the street
>Because it isn't road legal in the configuration used
neither were the Viper, the Mustang GTD and the Corvette ZR1
>Good thing it can!
source?
>Dumbass nigger thinks I'm trans kek cry pussy
kek you are a fucking tranny stop denying it
>>28519225
>Kek cry pussy
tranny
>Not road legal, not a valid road legal lap
neither is the Mustang GTD, the Corvette ZR1 and the Viper ACR then
>>28519237
>Not a tranny nor do I want to be one
ok tranny
>Kek cry pussy
You are a tranny

>>28519264
>ARGHHH S/o/VIET GIVE ME ATTENTION ASWELL

PFFFFTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>28519528
see >>28519391

>>28519675
my headgaskets are fine. skill issue

>>28519610
>little fag is triggered by the F slur lol
Nah, just bored. It's just a word at this point
>post the source from where you are getting this quote then faggot
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a11647911/how-viper-fans-crowdfunded-the-nurburgring-record-dodge-never-attempted/, picrel specifically
>Yes, and in order for a rollcage to work, it has to be at least bolted to the monocoque, which automatically incresases body rigidity
And modern chassis are stiff enough that a roll cage doesn't make much of a difference if at all. It's not the 1990s anymore where floppy bodies were the norm.
>if they weren't street legal they wouldn't be able to drive on the street
Having plates on an illegal car doesn't make it legal, numbnuts. The parts, as stated by Nissan, are for COMPETITION USE ONLY and NOT FOR HIGHWAY USE. Just because you can drive with them on doesn't make the parts street legal.
>neither were the Viper, the Mustang GTD and the Corvette ZR1
They are, cope.
>source?
>>28512236
Cope harder
>kek you are a fucking tranny stop denying it
I'm a man and identify as a man. Quit projecting your fetish onto someone else
>tranny
Someone's on estrogen, and it ain't me
>neither is the Mustang GTD, the Corvette ZR1 and the Viper ACR then
All three of those are road legal kek cry pussy
>ok tranny
Is the little baby mad? Yea it looks like the baby is mad
>You are a tranny
I know you are kek cry pussy

>>28519606
>so no evidence?
Just like you have no standing for your claims. No actual standard exists for what is a "production car", so manufacturers can run their cars with a cage/race seats/harnesses if they want to.
>No they don't Nissan didn't add a rollcage or an aftermarket racetech seat on any of their nurbugring attempts
It's still irrelevant. This point has been discussed ad nauseum and you're not going to concede/admit defeat
>The hood gurney being for competition use only is irrelevant then
It is not, because Nissan outright stated it's not a road legal part while you act like it somehow is.
>kek you fucking wish, retard
Still DEBOONKED kek cry pussy
>The hood gurney being for competition use only is irrelevant then
It is not
>GTR being pre-production is irrelevant then
Not saying it is, point dismissed
>I pull the ropes here, I am the reason you are seething
L M A O god you're funny
>that silver camo Corvette didn't do a supposed 7:05 laptime
Cool! There's no proof that Mero's ZR1 was the one seen with the test pipes
>kek no it didn't
We have the word of Jim Mero, a respected test driver, vs some random anon on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I'll trust Mero.
>Irrelevant
Not irrelevant, You're insisting those parts are road legal when they aren't.
>Nope
Yep

>>28519679
See >>28519513

>>28519905
Mine is reliable

>>28520000
>but I'm 5'6

>>28520404
Source?

>>28520410

>>28519778
>picrel specifically
>Bejnarowicz
nice try you fucking rabbi, it doesn't fucking matter if the Gen V Viper is 200% stiffer than a gen 1, every single piece of metal flexes when it's subjected to a force, a chassis isn't infinitely rigid, the Gen V viper flexes and a rollcage, even a bolted one, adds rigidity to the system
>b-but
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WELD, WELDLET
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ROLLCAGES
>Having plates on an illegal car doesn't make it legal,
it literally does you fucking retard, there are street legal N-Attacks in Europe, Japan and America, that means their owner took the to whatever vehicular registry instituution exists in those country and they were given permission to drive on the street, using parts sold by Nissan, unlike the Viper, where it had an aftermarket rollcage, 5 point harness and racetech seats
>b-but that doesn't make it faster
on the article you quote it says
>. His five-point harness meant he couldn’t lean down to grab it;
so basically, the aftermarket 5 point harness stopped the mass of the driver from being tossed around, which would fuck up with the handling and allow the driver to have more control over the car, so basically, you are a fucking retard and these aftermarket mods do make it faster
also
> The roll cage, Bejnarowicz tells me, is the same design used by Chrysler engineers during Viper development,
so basically the rollcage is a prototype part? Since when is a pre-production prototype part a production part?
>They are, cope.
Nope,
Viper wasn't production and was modified with aftermarket parts as per the article you provided
Mustang GTD was pre-production as per Ford themselves
C7 ZR1 had an aftermarket exhaust and doesn't comply with emissions or noise regulations
>>>28512236
>Cope harder
that Corvette isn't in the same configuration as the car that set the supposed 7:05 lap

>>28523593
>I'm a man and identify as a man.
you are a fucking tranny weldlet
> it ain't me
haven't started yet?
>All three of those are road legal
Nope, see above
>kek cry pussy
kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
>Is the little baby mad?
You can't weld and think rollcages don't add structural rigidity
>I know you are
projecting
>kek cry pussy
kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
>>28519788
>Just like you have no standing for your claims.
If a car was modified with aftermarket parts, like the viper was, it's no longer a prodcution car
You can't understand this simple concept because you are a fucking retarded weldlet tranny
>No actual standard exists for what is a "production car",
and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production car by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
>so manufacturers can run their cars with a cage/race seats/harnesses if they want to.
no, they literally can't, if they do, people will label them as modified/non-production
>It's still irrelevant.
no, it isn't Nissan never used aftermarket parts on any GTR record attempt, they offered all the parts they developed via the Kit A and Kit B N-Attack packages
retard
>you're not going to concede/admit defeat
>ARGH S/o/VIET LET ME WIN ALREADY!
kek fucking retarded weldlet tranny
> because Nissan outright stated it's not a road legal part while you act like it somehow is.
Nissan doesn't have the authority to determine what is street legal or not, it's each country's vehicular department that do, and the US, the EU and Japan have determined that the Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR is street legal
fucking retard
>Still DEBOONKED
kek you fucking wish, retard
>kek cry pussy
kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
>It is not
It is, as cars with it can be legally driven on the street
>Not saying it is
so go tell your fellow trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps that they are wrong and retarded for claiming it wasn't then

>>28523602
>L M A O god you're funny
Cope, reminder I literally controlled the narrative on /o/ for years and the GTR vs Corvette motortrend is still the most reposted image here
reminder that your enitre tranny retard bullshit of posting a racing c6 was utterly fucking destroyed by me proving the GT3 GTR is faster
there is literally not a single time where you have been able to prove any corvette is faster than the GTR at the ring
>There's no proof that Mero's ZR1 was the one seen with the test pipes
There's no proof of Mero even doing a 7:04 or 7:05 to begin with, at best we can assume he did, and if he did, he claims he did it on the second attempt, the second attempt being with cars using the aftermarket pipes, as those photos were taken in 2018, whereas the silver camo ones were taken in 2017
>We have the word of Jim Mero
as if Americans don't lie to shill their products, just like Hennesey or SSC
>Not irrelevant, You're insisting those parts are road legal when they aren't.
They are legally driving on the street = street legal
>b-but Nissan said
Nissan doesn't decide what the department of vehicles of each country deeems legal or not.
>Yep
nope
Viper wasn't production and was modified with aftermarket parts as per the article you provided
Mustang GTD was pre-production as per Ford themselves
C7 ZR1 had an aftermarket exhaust and doesn't comply with emissions or noise regulations
sorry these facts triggers your butt

This thread in a nutshell

>>28512068 (OP)
ok

>>28523593
>nice try you fucking rabbi, it doesn't fucking matter if the Gen V Viper is 200% stiffer than a gen 1, every single piece of metal flexes when it's subjected to a force, a chassis isn't infinitely rigid, the Gen V viper flexes and a rollcage, even a bolted one, adds rigidity to the system
The engineers who fucking developed the Viper and its roll cage outright state it doesn't add stiffness. Cope harder.
>YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WELD, WELDLET
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ROLLCAGES
No :)
>it literally does you fucking retard, there are street legal N-Attacks in Europe, Japan and America, that means their owner took the to whatever vehicular registry instituution exists in those country and they were given permission to drive on the street, using parts sold by Nissan, unlike the Viper, where it had an aftermarket rollcage, 5 point harness and racetech seats
No, it literally doesn't you gigaretard.
>so basically, the aftermarket 5 point harness stopped the mass of the driver from being tossed around, which would fuck up with the handling and allow the driver to have more control over the car, so basically, you are a fucking retard and these aftermarket mods do make it faster
Put 5-point belts in your shitbox, it won't suddenly make it faster.
>so basically the rollcage is a prototype part? Since when is a pre-production prototype part a production part?
Nope
>Nope,
>Viper wasn't production and was modified with aftermarket parts as per the article you provided
>Mustang GTD was pre-production as per Ford themselves
>C7 ZR1 had an aftermarket exhaust and doesn't comply with emissions or noise regulations
All three are still valid production car laps, cope harder
>that Corvette isn't in the same configuration as the car that set the supposed 7:05 lap
It's a C7 ZR1, they're identical. Already mentioned that you're just assuming that Mero's car was the one with the extra pipes

>>28523602
>you are a fucking tranny weldlet
Ain't trans kek cry pussy
>haven't started yet?
No intention to, nor will I
>Nope, see above
Yes they are
>kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
I won't just to spite you kek cry pussy
>You can't weld and think rollcages don't add structural rigidity
I said the Viper's specifically didn't add any you fucking retard.
>projecting
Says the nigger who keeps accusing others of something they aren't
>kek cry pussy
>kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
No kek cry pussy
>If a car was modified with aftermarket parts, like the viper was, it's no longer a prodcution car
Manufacturers run their cars with aftermarket buckets and cages all the time during 'Ring runs. They're still considered to be valid production car laps
>You can't understand this simple concept because you are a fucking retarded weldlet tranny
Explain the Radical SR8LM then. It's listed as a production car, it clearly isn't.
>and yet only the GTR was labeled as modified/non-production car by trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Might be down to the FOR COMPETITON USE ONLY parts it had that made it not street legal
>no, they literally can't, if they do, people will label them as modified/non-production
And yet it's happened and will continue to happen kek cry pussy
>no, it isn't Nissan never used aftermarket parts on any GTR record attempt, they offered all the parts they developed via the Kit A and Kit B N-Attack packages
Still irrelevant
>retard
Says the 2head who thinks there's any standard for what's considered a "production car" at the 'Ring
>kek fucking retarded weldlet tranny
Still not trans no matter how many times you insist

>>28523602
>Nissan doesn't have the authority to determine what is street legal or not, it's each country's vehicular department that do, and the US, the EU and Japan have determined that the Kit A N-Attack Nismo GTR is street legal
They actually do, that's why they outright stated the optional parts are FOR COMPETITION USE ONLY. Just because a couple were seen driving with plates doesn't make those parts street legal
>fucking retard
Yes it's clear you continue to be one
>kek you fucking wish, retard
Still DEBOONKED kek cry pussy
>It is, as cars with it can be legally driven on the street
Just because it has a state title doesn't make it legal, see every R34 or S15 driving around Miami like 10 years ago.
>so go tell your fellow trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps that they are wrong and retarded for claiming it wasn't then
Still not trans, and if you want to try and edit the Wikipedia page youre free to do so yourself.

>>28523603
>Cope, reminder I literally controlled the narrative on /o/ for years and the GTR vs Corvette motortrend is still the most reposted image here
Cool, I don't care
>reminder that your enitre tranny retard bullshit of posting a racing c6 was utterly fucking destroyed by me proving the GT3 GTR is faster
Not even the same anon that did that you fucking retard
>there is literally not a single time where you have been able to prove any corvette is faster than the GTR at the ring
7:04 > 7:08 kek cry pussy
>There's no proof of Mero even doing a 7:04 or 7:05 to begin with
Yes there is, he states he did so
>at best we can assume he did, and if he did, he claims he did it on the second attempt, the second attempt being with cars using the aftermarket pipes
You dont know that the pipes were installed on that specific C7
>as those photos were taken in 2018, whereas the silver camo ones were taken in 2017
Cool.
>as if Americans don't lie to shill their products, just like Hennesey or SSC
Of course you'd pick the two groups who got called out for their bullshit
>They are legally driving on the street = street legal
That's quite literally not how it works, retard
>Nissan doesn't decide what the department of vehicles of each country deeems legal or not.
Already covered this elsewhere. Nissan states that the optional parts for Kit A aren't road legal and not for highway use. That won't stop owners from driving with them installed. It still doesn't make those parts street legal even if they're driving with plates on.
>nope
Yes
>Viper wasn't production and was modified with aftermarket parts as per the article you provided
Irrelevant, OEMs do this constantly
>Mustang GTD was pre-production as per Ford themselves
Irrelevant, OEMs do this constantly
>C7 ZR1 had an aftermarket exhaust and doesn't comply with emissions or noise regulations
Irrelevant, OEMs do this all the time
>sorry these facts triggers your butt
Sorry that you can't accept that your precious Datsun is slower

>all these wall texts
god help this insufferable thread

>>28524032
>The engineers who fucking developed the Viper and its roll cage outright state it doesn't add stiffness.
No they did not, the guy who crowdfunded the modified viper record attempt said the engineers said so, quote the engineers themselves retard, not some scheming jew
>No :)
fucking weldlet
> it literally doesn't you gigaretard.
it literally does you fucking idiot, holy shit you are beyond fucking retarded
>it won't suddenly make it faster.
it literally will you fucking retard
https://www.fastracer.com/en-mx/blogs/news/can-i-install-a-racing-harness-in-my-car#:~:text=If%20you've%20ever%20found,found%20at%20www.fastracer.com
>Nope
Cope
>All three are still valid production car laps
According to who?
let me quote your dumb retarded ass
>there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car".
>It's a C7 ZR1, they're identical.
No they aren't you fucking retard, one passes noise reguulations, the other does not
> that you're just assuming that Mero's car was the one with the extra pipes
What Mero said coincides with the fact that corvettes that were spotted on the ring for the second time had modified exhausts
Do you have evidence Mero's car was street legal? Oh that's right, you fucking don't

>>28524057
>Ain't trans kek cry pussy
yes you are you fucking tranny
>No intention to, nor will I
good, no matter how much hormones you take you will never pass
>Yes they are
see >>28524241
>there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car".
so which one is it, you fucking retard?
>I won't just to spite you
You won't because you are a fucking retarded tranny
>kek cry pussy
kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
>I said the Viper's specifically didn't add any you fucking retard.
where is teh proofs? some scheming jew supposedly quoting the engineers?
>Says the nigger who keeps accusing others of something they aren't
reported for racism outside /b/ :)
>No kek cry pussy
kek fucking weldlet retard trying to talk about rollcages as if he has ever touched a tool before
>Manufacturers run their cars with aftermarket buckets and cages all the time during 'Ring runs.
No they don't, only shady dishonest ones
>They're still considered to be valid production car laps
Let me quote you again retard, because you are such a stupid fucking tranny you can't even grasp how you have been contradicting your entire argument for days: see >>28524241
>there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car".
>Explain the Radical SR8LM then.
see above retard

>>28524256
>Might be down to the FOR COMPETITON USE ONLY parts it had that made it not street legal
And yet we can see examples of Kit A N Attack Nismo GTRs driving on the street. I'll trust the department of vehicles/transportation of the fucking US, Uk and Japan over some trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
>And yet it's happened
and people pointed out the were modified, lik in this thread about the Viper
>and will continue to happen
and people will continue to point it out
>kek cry pussy
kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
>Still irrelevant
cope
>Says the 2head who thinks there's any standard for what's considered a "production car" at the 'Ring
Holy shit, theis fucking retarded weldlet wwrenchlet tranny literally just demolished his entire fucking argument in one single post, if there is no standars, why do you even dare to imply that
>They're still considered to be valid production car laps
>Still not trans no matter how many times you insist
Still not a woman no matter how many times you insist

>>28524064
>They actually do
So why are there videos and images of Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo driving around in the UK, US and JApan if Nissan stated they were for competition use only? Since when is Nissan the ones who decides what's street legal and what is not over the literal state?
>Yes it's clear you continue to be one
projecting tranny
>Still DEBOONKED kek cry pussy
kek you fucking wish, retard
>Just because it has a state title doesn't make it legal
confirmed for fucking retard
>see every R34 or S15 driving around Miami like 10 years ago.
You mean the ones that have the Show and Display title? Which allow them to drive for 2,500 miles a year?
>Still not trans,
Still not a woman, you weldlet tranny
>and if you want to try and edit the Wikipedia page youre free to do so yourself.
kek no the trannies ban you for trying, same with trannylaps

>>28524094
>Cool, I don't care
Cope, you are irrelevant

>>28524276
>Not even the same anon that did that you fucking retard
don't care didn't ask
>7:04
literally never happened kek
>kek cry pussy
kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
>Yes there is, he states he did so
No there is not, no video or official press release from GM, just a boomer shilling his suspension tuning services
>You dont know that the pipes were installed on that specific C7
So you don't know if Jim Mero's car was street legal to begin with? thx for proving my point for me, Mero's attempt, if it happened is not a valid street legal time because wee don't know if the car was modified or not
>Cool.
Cope retard, your entire argument has been deboonked
>Of course you'd pick the two groups who got called out for their bullshit
So just like Mero and Russ Oasis and Bernie Katz
>That's quite literally not how it works, retard
that's literally how it works, you fucking retarded tranny
>Nissan states that the optional parts for Kit A aren't road legal and not for highway use.
Cool
>That won't stop owners from driving with them installed. It still doesn't make those parts street legal even if they're driving with plates on.
it literally means they are
>Yes
kek you fucking wish you retarded weldlet tranny
>Irrelevant, OEMs do this constantly
So? I thought "there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car"."
which one is it you fucking retard?
>Sorry that you can't accept that your precious Datsun is slower
Post a Corvette faster than 6:38 >>28519083
you won't weldelt tranny retard kek

>>28524155
just the resident GM retard trying to cope over the fact that the Corvette can't lapt the ring faster than the GTR kek

>>28524241
>No they did not, the guy who crowdfunded the modified viper record attempt said the engineers said so, quote the engineers themselves retard, not some scheming jew
Bejnarowicz worked for Riley Technologies and SRT/Dodge during the Viper GT3-R/GTS-R program. Cope harder.
>fucking weldlet
It sounds like xhe is mad
>it literally does you fucking idiot, holy shit you are beyond fucking retarded
No it doesn't you gigaretard. In the US it varies state by state but federally it's not legal, in the UK it can pass MOT depending on how willing the tester is to let it slide, and in Japan you can get away with a lot if it's a factory part. That still doesn't make those parts street legal.
>it literally will you fucking retard
Ok
>Cope
Kek cry pussy
>According to who?
According to the OEMs that set the laps. Nigsan implied they set their lap with a lighly tuned Nismo spec GT-R and didn't specify exactly what the upgrades were initially.
>No they aren't you fucking retard, one passes noise reguulations, the other does not
They're identical :)
>What Mero said coincides with the fact that corvettes that were spotted on the ring for the second time had modified exhausts
Cope it's still a valid lap
>Do you have evidence Mero's car was street legal? Oh that's right, you fucking don't
To borrow one of your lines, it's on plates so it's street legal :)
>>28524155
It's just Sööyviet being mad that xer's precious Datsun is slower than American cars

>>28524256
>yes you are you fucking tranny
Someone's definitely PMSing
>good, no matter how much hormones you take you will never pass
That's fine, I don't want to be trans
>see
They are kek cry pussy
>so which one is it, you fucking retard?
Whatever causes you to get angry :)
>You won't because you are a fucking retarded tranny
lol says the scorpion, lmao
>kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
Accept you're wrong and I will
>where is teh proofs? some scheming jew supposedly quoting the engineers?
Already covered
>reported for racism outside /b/ :)
Oooooo hypocrisy, haven't seen that before
>kek fucking weldlet retard trying to talk about rollcages as if he has ever touched a tool before
I know more than a few people who weld, I'll just ask them
>No they don't, only shady dishonest ones
BMW, Lexus, Audi, Porsche, Ford, and Lamborghini are "shady and dishonest"?
>Let me quote you again retard, because you are such a stupid fucking tranny you can't even grasp how you have been contradicting your entire argument for days
Oh my god you've finally figured it out! Impressive for a brainlet 65IQ retard! I've been yanking your chain for the past week.
>see above retard
The SR8LM isn't a production car :)

>>28524276
>And yet we can see examples of Kit A N Attack Nismo GTRs driving on the street. I'll trust the department of vehicles/transportation of the fucking US, Uk and Japan over some trannies at trannypedia and trannylaps
Already covered, doesn't matter if it's plated or not. A car can drive with a full cage + bucket + harness in the UK if the MOT tester allows it.
>and people pointed out the were modified, lik in this thread about the Viper
Already covered and DEBOONKED
>and people will continue to point it out
Accept that you're wrong
>kek learn to weld you fucking weldlet retard
No :)
>cope
Is xir mad? Yeah I think xir is mad.
>Holy shit, theis fucking retarded weldlet wwrenchlet tranny literally just demolished his entire fucking argument in one single post, if there is no standars, why do you even dare to imply that
Already covered in a prior response :)
>Still not a woman no matter how many times you insist
I'm not the one saying that, you are
>So why are there videos and images of Kit A N-Attack GTR Nismo driving around in the UK, US and JApan if Nissan stated they were for competition use only?
Because Nigsan isn't going to stop you from driving around with those parts installed. Doesn't make them street legal
>Since when is Nissan the ones who decides what's street legal and what is not over the literal state?
Because they're the ones who are building the car, and they say those parts aren't road legal.
>projecting tranny
Only one slathering about trannies here is you. Project harder.
>kek you fucking wish, retard
DEBOONKED
>You mean the ones that have the Show and Display title? Which allow them to drive for 2,500 miles a year?
S15s aren't on the Show & Display list, and only 2 specific trims + 1 color R34 are.
>Still not a woman, you weldlet tranny
I'm not a woman to begin with, nor am I trans
>kek no the trannies ban you for trying, same with trannylaps
Cope harder

the poster above me is a tranny btw

>>28524280
>don't care didn't ask
You care enough to insist I am
>literally never happened kek
But it did, cope harder
>No there is not, no video or official press release from GM, just a boomer shilling his suspension tuning services
Because GM is retarded and never released official times.
>So you don't know if Jim Mero's car was street legal to begin with? thx for proving my point for me, Mero's attempt, if it happened is not a valid street legal time because wee don't know if the car was modified or not
The car is legal :)
>Cope retard, your entire argument has been deboonked
You never had an argument in the first place, just flailing around like a spastic
>So just like Mero and Russ Oasis and Bernie Katz
None of them have lied :)
>that's literally how it works, you fucking retarded tranny
No it isn't
>Cool
I know, right?
>it literally means they are
So by your own logic the Viper, C7 ZR1, and Mustang GTD are street legal
>kek you fucking wish you retarded weldlet tranny
Your tears are delicious
So? I thought "there's no definition agreed on by manufacturers and the 'Ring over what constitutes a "stock/production car"."
>which one is it you fucking retard?
Whichever one gets you more annoyed :)
>Post a Corvette faster than 6:38
>sectioned lap
Don't care, not valid
you won't weldelt tranny retard kek

>>28524341
this poster is a buckbroken faggot who can't admit they're wrong

>>28519264
i expected this post to cause a massive seethe
i did lol

>>28519303
japanese reliability is a myth (aside from american made toyota)

>>28523648
contribute to my thread or don't post here again, understood? good.

>>28524661
You are a retarded fucking tranny that can't understand that a modified car with aftermarket parts isn't production
>answer my wall of text!
maybe tomorrow
>>28524663
>GM
>reliable
kek

>manually open MS paint and write down a faster lap time for the C7 ZR1 than the GTR
>"achkwually... i meant for that to be non production list cause they use this exhaust that isn't required at all for rented out sessions for no other reason than to just slow the car down while beating the GTR based on this track day image"
>"did i accidentally admit it beat the GTR? ackwually... well... the whole thing didn't happen and the GTR wins cause i can just make up a faster lap time in MS paint anyway so LOOOL I DESTROY U!!!!"
that freudian slip messed my boy's head up really bad. this little strip of pixels in pic related already buck broke him since its a screencap of a lap time from the internet verified by racing officials.

>>28524751
>posts a corvette race car lap
>still slower than the GTR
kek, can't make this shit up

>>28524756
>can't make this shit up
actually, you can. cause making shit up is all you have after agreeing that the C7 went faster.

KEK!

>>28524762
>cause making shit up is all you have
My name isn't Jim Mero making up fake 7:04 laptimes :(
>the C7 went faster.
too bad it isn't street legal or production :(

I feel ashamed just from seeing this thread.

>>28524795
This benchracer shit is mega-cringe.

>>28524738
>You are a retarded fucking tranny that can't understand that a modified car with aftermarket parts isn't production
And you're a brainless monkey that doesn't understand that a car using parts the manufacturer says aren't street legal makes it not street legal. Because by your logic the ZB II Viper ACR-X's 7:03.06 lap counts :)

>>28524795
>>28524851
same! i especially hate that the corvette always wins these threads. op is so smug and arrogant, i wish i could put him in his place if you know what i mean, but i can't because he outsmarts me.

pic related is mfw the corvette won yet another thread and outperforms my fave car, the nissan nismo, gtr.

>Corvette always wins
fucking kek, the corvette isn't even faster than the viper or the mustang
>N-nooo S/o/viet, it HAS to be the GTR!
fucking kek