Thread 28525083

Why do these generate so much seethe? They are objectively fun to drive.

>fun to drive
>5200lbs

You might as well just get a TRX or a Trackhawk at that point. It's irrelevant how fun to drive they are. They're still coon/jeet chariots.

>>28525085
Why are you seething?

>>28525083 (OP)
They’re amazing to drive. I’ve got a standard Hellcat Charger and it’s like a 700 horsepower couch, puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I think a lot of the hate comes from people parroting the heavy boat bullshit or how muh 10 speed 5.0 with a blower will gap it blah blah blah. Minorities have also ruined the image. Regardless, it’s my favorite car I’ve owned.

>>28525085
A Hellcat Challenger is 4,430lbs. Hellcat Charger is 4,594lbs.

>>28525094
Nice

>>28525085
it's lighter than your bus

>>28525083 (OP)
lesser brandwhores seethe about mopar because they still have a soul

>>28525109
Ty ty, I’m also a big fan of the ScatPacks. Drove one as a daily for five years and can honestly say you can have more fun in the 392 cars on the street than the Hellcats.

>>28525083 (OP)
Love to have a Hellcat but they are stupid money.

>>28525083 (OP)
>GAAAAAAAAAAS
BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE
>GAAAAAAAAAAS
BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE

I am sure its fun for a while but then i will want to chase the next power boost to get me excited.

>>28525158
Gas brake dip.

>>28525158
Then you're doing it wrong. Buy an old car instead and just cruise along.

>>28525111
Checked

>>28525109
KEK this thing is so fucking niggerish I literally laugh every time I see it bmaooo0o0o0

I've had the non hellcat version as a rental.
Sure they are fun to drive. I would never own one.

>>28525111
"HAD".. they "had" soul anon.
Then they let some fuckin euroweenies decide what kind of cars to make and now there's absolutely nothing redeeming about the entire brand.

>>28525083 (OP)
because they are a symbol of Indian pride here in the Toronto area

the assembly plant is in the Indian containment zone enclave of Brampton

I don't see huwite people driving these, ever.

>>28525083 (OP)
>auto only (except challenger)
>challenger is fat as fuck, no manual with the V6
>killed the wagon version early
I want to like them but they refused to build a combination I would buy

>>28525634
One of my neighbors has a black or indigenous automatic v6 charger of color made to look like a cop car, bur it says PANJAB instead of police. It sounds like it's straight piped too lol

>>28525641
Why would you ever consider a pentashit v6?

3rd worlders can't accept American superiority

>>28525626
>Then they let some fuckin euroweenies decide what kind of cars to make and now there's absolutely nothing redeeming about the entire brand.
There's almost nothing left at all. Unless you want an overpriced Jeep shitbarge SUV, a tiny rebadged Fiat cuckover, Wrangler, a dogshit Fiat FWD commercial van, or a Dodge Ram without a V8 then your remaining options are:
>9 year old minivan
>14 year old Durango that didn't get a new generation when its platform-mate Grand Cherokee did for some retarded reason
>rebadged Alfa Toenail that's dying imminently anyway due to poor sales after just 3 model years
>fuckhueg EV coupe with embarrassing fake engine sounds that costs twice as much as it should, and neither of the other versions that might sell better (sedan and inline 6) are out yet with no ETA
>Chrysler Airflow EV crossov- oh wait they canceled it so Chrysler still only sells one minivan and nothing else
And that's literally it. What the fuck are they doing

>>28525094
>parroting the heavy boat bullshit
it's a fine line. I've driven the V8 and while it doesn't handle poorly, coming from lighter cars it does feel like a boat in comparison. there's also the pride aspect of not wanting to be associated with jeets and nogs, as chargers are one of the only unmodified cars I can reliably goad into a stoplight race just by existing next to them, and/or breathing on the throttle at a stop

>>28525671
They fired the eurocuck CEO, are bringing back the Hemi V8 and are launching the Hurricane twin turbo i6 next year.

>>28525661
Several reasons.
>I work on them all the time so I know my way around one
>I already have a V8 coupe that I don't drive as much as I should because it gets terrible single digit fuel economy
>I've driven plenty of V6 challengers and I find the power adequate for daily driving which is what I'd be doing with it
But they don't come in manual, so I don't have one. If you could see out of a 5th or 6th gen Camaro I'd probably have one of those because they did come in manual, and having also driven those (in all combinations even- V8 auto, V8 manual, V6 auto, V6 manual) I liked how the V6 manual drove. Just enough power to have fun while not getting to jail time speeds in only a few seconds and still getting respectable fuel economy. If I was shopping for a track weapon, hell yeah V8 all the way, but the car's main job will be carting my ass to work and kicking the tail out sometimes, not setting lap times.

>>28525083 (OP)
Because most of idiots in America drive Dodge Charger, Ford Mustang. They crash their cars very often because they dont have proper skills to drive high performance RWD cars. So they spin out and crash to other cars, houses, trees, poles etc...

I dont seethe about them, but if the dodge challenger were the same size as the camaro/mustang, it would be the most perfect modern car to ever exist.
i just think they made it too big for me
>it's the same size as the original charger
I don't care, i still wish it was smaller.

>>28525718
Buy a Camaro then. Being fucking huge is part of the appeal of a challenger.

>>28525718
The Challenger and Charger have full size back seats and a large trunk. This is why the Challenger and Charger massively outsold the Camaro as well as the Mustang.

>>28525727
This was a huge selling point for me on the Chally, it had useable back seats. The cumarrow and moostang were generally better cars but mopar really captured the original muscle-car zeitgeist better than anyone. I'm the farthest thing from a mopar fan but after driving an R/T chally for a month.. damn. I got it.
Then these fuckin idiots at stellantis cancelled it.
Actually useable muscle car.. no not 'muh track car' or 'muh handlin' but just fun v8 power, great sounds, useable inside and outside. damn.
wish it had a bigger fuel tank tho.

>>28525083 (OP)
As far as car people complaints, they are muscle cars that are heavy even for muscle car standards, leading purely to being straight line or drifting. The real reason for seethe is that Dodge subprime lending scheme made it so that every extremely poor melenated person with terrible decision making skills got them. Also it became a target for said poor decision making individuals as a black market emerged for them, leading to many thefts of the vehicle

>>28525727
>This is why the Challenger and Charger massively outsold the Camaro as well as the Mustang.
you sure about that?

>>28525626
they have basically discontinued their EV line after figuring out it's dumb dogshit that doesn't sell because no one wants it, and brought back Tim Kuniskis to unfuck the brand after the french nearly ruined it. Trump already axed CAFE and 5.7's are already back into the RAM's and rumors are it's gonna be back for the nu Charger too. Dodge future is much less grim now

>>28525825
Now add the Charger (they're the same car).

because they are cop cars and boomer wagons

>>28525867
>two cars sell more than one car
wow you should be an accountant

>>28525870
>two cars sell more than one car
Not even remotely always the case. In 2022, the Charger sold 80,365 units. That's more than the Hyundai Veloster N, Infiniti Q60, Volvo 90-Series, Audi A8, BMW Z4, Land Rover LR4, Lexus LC, Jaguar F-Type, Volkswagen Arteon, Genesis G90, Jaguar E-Pace, Jaguar XF, Fiat 500X, Audi TT, Hyundai Nexo, Acura NSX combined. That's 16 cars.

>>28525888
the charger and challenger combined also sold less than half of rav4s, a stat which is equally as relevant

>>28525867
>it didn't
>b-b-but, ad another model

>>28525083 (OP)
Smiles per gallon, sonny, smiles per gallon!

>>28525083 (OP)
They are both ugly, overwight and associated with unlikable people. They may be fun to do pulls in, but that is about it at the expense of the above. Buy a camaro, or for that money a used pickup and an NC miata

>>28525109
Jesus...

>>28525900
Actually, it is relevant. The RAV4 is more practical than the Charger and Challenger and is also generally a good car. So, it unsurprisingly sold more.

The Charger and Challenger sold more than the Mustang and Camaro because they're more practical with their full-size back seat and large trunk while also being good cars.

>>28525915
I said the Challenger AND the Charger massively outsold the Camaro as well as the Mustang.

As a side note, they're in different categories. Challenger and Charger are muscle cars. Mustang and Camaro are pony cars. They have different design intentions. Whining that the Challenger/Charger isn't as small as a Mustang/Camaro doesn't really make sense.

>>28525937
>The Charger and Challenger sold more than the Mustang and Camaro because they're more practical with their full-size back seat and large trunk
also being two different cars helps sell more when compared to one car

>>28525937
Is it selling well because it's a good car or is it selling well because Stellantis will finance to anybody or anything including your pitbull or your pet rock?

>>28525932
Camaros suck

>>28525937
>I said the Challenger AND the Charger massively outsold the Camaro as well as the Mustang.
Sure did, then that Anon pointed out that wasn't true, only the Charger did. Then you said
>b-b-but cOmBinE the sales!!!@!
Like that's a relevant point and you're not being retarded.

>>28525945
Somewhat, just due to 2/4 door configuration. But it's largely because of back seat and trunk. None of these cars are super cheap, especially not the V8 trims. The average age of buyer is going to be older because they're established and can afford it. Most of these people will have kids, other people they'd like to transport and things to put in the trunk. This makes justifying buying a Mustang/Camaro harder as the back seats and trunk are a joke.

The truth is the Hellcat is a dad car.

>>28525947
Because they're good and relatively practical.

>>28525954
Combined was my point from the beginning, that's why I stated it as such. No goal posts were moved. They are combined because they are the same car, just in coupe or sedan configuration.

>>28525963
>Combined was my point from the beginning, that's why I stated it as such. No goal posts were moved. They are combined because they are the same car, just in coupe or sedan configuration.
Is that why you left out the word "combined"? Also, full size sedans and pony cars aren't the same segment no matter how hard you try to pretend they are.

>>28525977
>Is that why you left out the word "combined"?
The word "and" includes the definition of "combined", ESL.
>full size sedans and pony cars aren't the same segment
I stated that.
>"they're in different categories. Challenger and Charger are muscle cars. Mustang and Camaro are pony cars. They have different design intentions."
And I hope you aren't trying to imply the Charger and Challenger aren't the same car because if so, lmao.

>>28525991
>The word "and" includes the definition of "combined", ESL.
And is also a contraction like "as well as", it doesn't expressly mean an addition you retard.
>And I hope you aren't trying to imply the Charger and Challenger aren't the same car because if so, lmao.
This is next level cope about the Charger being a sedan and not a pony car, less it's sales in this comparison irrelevant. Please try harder to be less retarded next time you make a thread Anon.

>>28525674
I’m not denying that they’re heavy and sure compared to lighter cars they’re not going to handle quite as well, but throw some good rubber on them and they do alright for what they are. I worked with a guy who took his standard body Hellcat Challenger to a couple of auto cross events and he was far from the slowest car there. In my experience, I get a lot of V6 Camaros that buzz me or try to bait me into a race.

>>28525998
>it doesn't expressly mean
Context, ESL.
>This is next level cope about the Charger being a sedan and not a pony car
Obviously, it's not a pony car. I stated that as part of my point. Not my thread btw. If you would like me to summarize and clarify my position because you're ESL, I can do so.

The Charger and Challenger sales combined are significantly more than either the Mustang or Camaro. This is largely due to the Charger and Challenger being more practical with their full-size back seats and trunk. To have this additional space, the car consequently must be larger. While often cross-shopped, the Charger/Challenger and Mustang/Camaro are not the same type of vehicle. As one side is a muscle car, the other is a pony car and have different design intentions. The muscle cars sacrifice handling and size for room. The pony cars sacrifice room for handling and size.

I hope you can understand, dear anon.

>>28525721
>Buy a Camaro then
Thats exactly what I did
>Being fucking huge is part of the appeal of a challenger.
Yes part of the appeal. The retro design is what appeals to me the most. the round headlights.
>>28525727
I dont care if thats what the other people want, its my personal preference
Something with hardcore retro styling but in a smaller nimble package
And no the mustang still outsold the challenger for most of its existence

>>28526018
>Context
As in 2 completely different class of vehicles? Hence why it made no sense to combine them?
>Obviously, it's not a pony car.
You are unequivocally wrong. Did you miss the part where I said "try to be less retarded", since you're not the OP you can change "thread" to "post".

>>28526020
>Thats exactly what I did
I'm glad, I hope you enjoy it.
>I dont care if thats what the other people want, its my personal preference
That's fine. My point is that there is a justified purpose for it being bigger which reaped dividends (until that eurocuck ceo tried to kill the company, anyway). Frankly, I'm not even sure a mini Challenger would be competitive.

>>28525083 (OP)
i was thinking about buying a charger, not sure if should buy v6 or v8

gas money is not issue but reliability is an issue

>>28525683
>I already have a V8 coupe that I don't drive as much as I should because it gets terrible single digit fuel economy
So much for you "muh V8" niggers.

>>28525963
>Combined was my point from the beginning
it wasn't though. your original point was that the challenger sold better because it was a fullsize coupe with bigger backseats and a bigger trunk compared to its midsized counterparts.
>The Challenger has (sic) full size back seats and a large trunk. This is why the Challenger massively outsold the Camaro as well as the Mustang
which isn't true. it's only after including the charger into the equation does it outsell the mustang. but now the comparison is apples to oranges because there's no 4 door mustang. coupe to coupe, the challenger sold less. therefore, having bigger rear seats and trunk do not a better selling coupe make.

>>28526029
We're going to get into the weeds here trying to debate the definition of muscle car vs pony car. I'm not really interested in getting super pedantic, as my point is about the size of the vehicles offering something the Mustang/Camaro do not, specifically full-size back seats and a large trunk.

>>28526038
100% the V8 is absolutely worth it. Get a Scat Pack/SRT 392 if possible. The 5.7 is fine but the 6.4 really noticeably is better.

>>28525683
So you bought a 6spd V6 s197 or S550 then?

>>28526045
>it wasn't though
It was howeverbeit.
>This is why the Challenger and Charger massively outsold
Including them together was intentional.

>>28526048
>>28526038

i dont care about scat packs, i live in eurocuckland with speedtraps everywhere so i dont want the speed, i just like the style... and i wanna it kinda reliable to use as daily

>>28526063
the wide body is sexy af tho boy. get it.
also the chally r/t has the best sounding factory exhaust of any of the 3.
just do it.
no ragrets.

>>28525083 (OP)
my biggest deal is im tired of small time drug dealers being able to afford cool shit, only people who build fast cars should have fast cars, normiecattle should fuckoff and go sit in their cuck honda.

>>28526063
If literally all you want is the body, that's exactly what the V6 is for. Speed and power aside, the big difference the 5.7 would get you is the far superior exhaust sound which in my opinion matters a lot.

>>28526069
body and less engine issues*

so v6 or v8 has less hiccups?

>>28525083 (OP)
Because people think being racist is a personality trait. You know back then people associated chally's with boomers.
>yeah it runs alright!
Remember that guy? I do. Goodtimes.

>>28526061
>Including them together was intentional.
because you knew using the challenger by itself invalidates your point?
you wanted to prove that the challenger was more successful by merit of being fullsized but it's not. you wanted to prove the guy saying the challenger was too big wrong but you can't. the challenger alone can't prove your point so you have to rely on the charger to carry the challenger's poor sales numbers. if you truly believed that being fullsized was advantageous then you wouldn't need to combine sales figures.

>>28526071
They also use the car as a proxy for racism because they’re just too pussy to call someone a nigger.

>>28526069
the exhaust note in the v8 is by FAR the biggest chally selling point.
I know some 50Y boys luv themselves a v-6 but that's really missing out on the best part of the experience.

>>28526072
I wanted to point out that the size is purposeful. Practicality. The Charger selling more than the Challenger further illustrates my point, it being 4 door enhances its practicality. The Charger and Challenger cannibalize each other's sales. Which would normally be a problem for a manufacturer except in this case because they're the same car it doesn't really matter.

Why do you think the Charger and Challenger are always mentioned in the same breath? Even OP made the thread about both for a reason (because they're the same thing).

>>28526078
tell me youve never lived around niggers without telling me you've never lived around niggers.
biggest problem is how easy they are for "socially disadvantaged, unsigned young rap artists" (ie. "niggers") to steal.
how's that?
>t. memphis resident

>>28526071
https://youtu.be/jZhtY2CUQG0?si=mxG4dLgR0zNB8ONb

>ahhh le heckin racism! that like le uncool dude!1
fucking grow up manchild faggots

>>28526070
Both are reliable. The V6 will get about 5 mpg more.

>>28526084
Frankly most cars are easy to steal if you really want to. These ones are just simply targeted more. If you live in a bad area there are things you can do to make them difficult to steal.

>>28526086
^urban millie detected.
>we're all one race.. "the human race"
kek gtfo.

>>28526089
what makes some place "..a bad area" anon?
lmao

>>28526084
I live in Jackson Mississippi, don’t try to educate me on niggers you fucking retard.

>>28526092
im surrounded by niggers in this shithole state you fucking retard.

>>28526097
then you should already know.. or you're willfully clueless.
fucking retard

>>28526086
>grow up
Yeah because spamming rahjeesh with his pom pom thingy chally is real adult ain't it? No such thing as a dedicated troll just an uninhibited autist.

>>28526085
Based grandpa.

>>28526096
Blacks, mexicans and white trash.

>>28526099
I’m not a pussy using a vehicle as a proxy for racism. Just call someone a nigger directly instead of whining about a car. Pussy faggot

>>28526102
can you say "niggers", "spics" and "white trash" or does that clash with your millenial values?

>>28526052
Nah, I'm currently engine swapping a Miata instead

>>28526104
>"white trash"
we call 'em wiggers!

>>28526104
Niggers, spics and white trash. I used white trash because it needs specification. As "living around all whites" is normally assumed to be fine. Whereas "living around all white trash" is bad. "Living around all blacks" or "living around all mexicans" does not need further explanation everyone already knows it's fucked.

>>28525085
low test post

>>28525094
5700 redline is kinda sad though

>>28526110
you pass. welcome to the ethnostate.

>>28526111
Hellcat has a 6,200 RPM redline.

>>28526081
>I wanted to point out that the size is purposeful. Practicality.
no shit sherlock. except when you're talking about coupes then the size is counterproductive. as evidenced by the fact the mustang outsells the challenger. if being fullsize was truly as desirable as you act like it is then the challenger would have outsold the mustang regardless.

>>28526116
the challenger outsold the mustang thoughbeit

>>28526106
Wiggers and white trash are not the same thing. There is cross-over but typically wiggers emulate niggers. White trash usually have a country affect.

>>28526114
what would you call this, a soft redline?

>>28526079
the v6 sounds good too as it's the only way to get a pentastar with dual-x pipes
you're not missing out on anything, the difference between sxt and r/t is barely 80 hp

>>28526120
yeah for 2 years out of 16.

>>28526130
It's just a color to warn you, anon. It has no mechanical effect. It's just colored plastic.

>>28526122
based anon with The Knowledge.
white trash typically has a drug addiction issue (usually meth or painkillers)
wiggers have an affectation for all things niggerish (fashion, music, speech patterns)
nigs are just nigs and really require no further explanation as to motive, societal impact, etc but some people get real extra protective as we've seen in this post. We call those people "faggots" for future reference.

>>28526132
>the difference between sxt and r/t is barely 80 hp
But also, a difference of 135 lb-ft of torque. This makes a substantial difference. The SXT does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, R/T does 0-60 in 5.1 seconds.

>mopar thread inevitably turns into racial deconstruction
OP was right.

>>28526141
>white trash typically has a drug addiction issue
most delinquents do but alright

>>28526149
You could just call him a nigger anon. it's not gonna hurt his feelings.

>>28526139
>It's just a color to warn you
yes that is the definition of a redline.

>>28525083 (OP)
They don't generate seethe. "People" of all races love Challys and Chargers.

Musshole cars are objectively the most Fucks4urBucks

You can't beat them in terms of loud rowdy loose rear end ;) fun

Fuck perfWhoreMans, fuck dicklets Cumpeting at the track, it's all about being a degenerate menace to society on your daily commute getting sideways at 20MPH on your way to Whole Foods (or Erewhon).

The ultimate middle figner to society

HEIL JAH BORTHER

>>28526149
"muh socioeconomic factors!"

>>28526145
> The SXT does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, R/T does 0-60 in 5.1 seconds.*

they are speed density engines so 0-60 is wildly dependent on atmospheric conditions.
in the real world there is no real difference except v8 boys spend more time at the gas pump and with the hood up.

>>28526116
>except when you're talking about coupes then the size is counterproductive
I wouldn't say so inherently, the Camaro and Challenger have similar sales. Well, before recently when the Camaro sales absolutely bombed. The Challenger also outsold the GR86 which is also a coupe and smaller than all of the above.

>>28526156
No, the redline is a mechanical cut-off where it stops revving. Ever heard "bouncing off the redline"? It means you hit the redline and it's cutting you off, you continue to floor it, and it repeatedly gets cut off causing said "bouncing".

Colored plastic doesn't do anything, dingus.

>>28526030
>hope you enjoy it.
Yes i do thanks
>I'm not even sure a mini Challenger would be competitive
We all desire cars that have no place in the modern market
Sucks but true
Think the charger/300 are perfect sizes for full size sedans though

>>28526165
Nothing to do with that. Some people just choose to be blights on society. Simple as.

>>28526169
>5.8s 0-60
And the 5.7 will do 5.1s 0-60. That is very much a real-world difference. There is also the driving feel, with the substantial difference in torque the 5.7 just feels more powerful.

The V6 is fine if you just want the body, cheaper, something fairly peppy, higher MPG and don't mind losing the V8 exhaust sound.

>>28526183
>And the 5.7 will do 5.1s 0-60.
*at sea level when it's exactly 69 degrees f outside and the driver has used launch control (which the v6 doesn't have)

>>28526169
i appreciate your devotion to the 6 but objectively... my God the v8 sounds SO much better.
For the small penalty in gas mileage it is 100% worth it unless this car is already stretching your budget too far.

>>28526183
>with the substantial difference in torque the 5.7 just feels more powerful.

i drove some to compare to my v6 and while the initial punch of power is impressive to a retard the fact the engine trips over its own shoelaces afterwards did not sell it to me.
the v6 has less initial go but it pulls all the way to redline which is just more fun on the street. if you're gonna get a v8 at least make it a scat or cat.

>>28526038
V8's are more reliable than the v6's, they've been truck motors for decades

>>28526169
wtf are you talking about retard. The v8 will always significantly outperform the v6 under all conditions. V8's also sound like pure sex there is no debating either of this points.

>>28526193
i won't contest the v8 doesn't sound good but i have had so many people tell me my car sounds good too, i literally cannot go anywhere with people without some zoomers shouting at me to rev it.

>>28526202
the v6 is also a truck motor. the challenger gets the same "classic" variant of the engine as the 2dr wrangler and ram 1500.

>>28526206
>The v8 will always significantly outperform the v6 under all conditions.
Now let's see your V8 do 500 miles on a single gas tank. Even with MDS you can't.
the V6 also has a perfect 52:48 weight balance thanks to the Pentastar's aluminum block being 200 lbs lighter than the hemi.

>>28526215
>v6 is also a truck motor.
a shitty one, but you don't understand. The 5.7 has LITERALLY been a truck motor since 2003. The pentastar (which I assume you're talking about because all the other v6's are dogshit) didn't come out till 2011. The 5.7 is pretty much bullet proof (with the exception of a bad cam lifter batch but that also affects the pentastars, and is relatively simple to fix).
>>28526215
>let's see your V8 do 500 miles on a single gas tank
lmao who gives a fuck. The v8 weight distribution is 54/46, which doesn't matteruch cause it's still always gonna be faster than the v6 on any track.

The 5.7 sounds emazegasm. Better than the Mustang V8.

The V6 with an exhaust does sound pretty good, but not as good as the 5.7.

The 5.7 has surprisingly good low-end torque. Easier to do burnouts than Mustang V8 as well.

If you don't care about going fast (raysin') and just want to have fun, the 5.7 with an LSD (for donuts/dorifuto) is the cheapest way to do so

>>28526222
>5.7 has surprisingly good low-end torque
it's a 5.7 liter pushrod V8, shy would that be surprising?

>>28526215
Just post your white chally already lol

>>28526215
>i literally cannot go anywhere with people without some zoomers shouting at me to rev it.
that's because they probably think it has a v8 at first glance.. the moment you rev it they know ur a poser

>>28526048
There is no debate, you said "Obviously, it's not a pony car." and I just showed you what Mopar advertised the car as.
>I'm not really interested in getting super pedantic
Excluding a full size sedan from a pony cars sales comparison isn't "pedantic" you blithering retard. It's common sense.

>>28526219
>The 5.7 has LITERALLY been a truck motor since 2003
pre-eagle hemmay is not really the same engine as the current production unit

>>28526272
normoids don't know shit thoughbeit
i have literally had a zoomer stare at my challenger's actual engine with the hood up and ask me to my face what kind of engine it was. when i rev it they're just like: wat
actually had a boomer ask me if it was supercharged because with the hellcat airbox and durango intake you can clearly hear the induction noise and opening/closing of the throttle body from the front of the car.


>>28526254
you may not like it but this is what peak american muscle looks like

>>28526219
>which doesn't matteruch cause it's still always gonna be faster than the v6 on any track.
manny hellcats lose to a gr86 on a track thoughbeit

>>28526342
>normoids don't know shit
exactly. that's why they get a v6 instead of v8

>>28526226
>pushrod
There is nothing inherent about a pushrod engine that makes it have more low end torque lol, its just more displacement in a smaller package

>>28526174
>No, the redline is a mechanical cut-off where it stops revving
Nope. That's the REV LIMITER. You "bounce off of the rev limiter"
The redline is OFTEN BELOW the rev limiter, and it is a RECOMMENDATION (indicated by a piece of colored plastic as you said) to the driver about when to stop revving the car.

>>28526337
>REEE
Ok.

>>28526360
If that's how you want to define it, that's fine. Whining the colored plastic is too low when it's largely arbitrary is gay and retarded.

>>28526363
>REEE
That's exactly what you were doing by trying to include full size sedan sales with pony cars Anon. Thanks for noticing.

>>28526357
no thats why they buy hyundai and ask pentastar chad to rev at them on the street
pstar sounds like a indycar i love it so much. it's not raspy like a vq but very deep and brassy like saxophone.
the chally ecu even has a light crackle tune, with some nice burbles and pops if you let it rev out to a stop in manual mode.
it is truly a crime against humanity that there was never a manual version, it would probably be the most popular sports car of all time. we have only the epa to blame.

Same reason Altimas generate seethe and abhorrence when you see one. They are good cars, just not the people who drive them.

>>28526375
They're the same car howneverbeith

>>28526386
>Nissan
>good car
Anon pls

>>28526402
No, the Dodge Charger and Challenger are not the same car, though they share some similarities. The Charger is a four-door sedan, while the Challenger is a two-door coupe.

>>28526358
why would you think a high displacement American v8 wouldn't be torquey down low? That's kind of their whole appeal

>>28526434
he thought you mentioning it being pushrod was implying that pushrods have more torque than an ohc engine of the same displacement

>>28526426
These are the same car.

>>28526457
>different body panels, doors, fenders, front & rear fascias
they aren't the same. Just like how the challengers/chargers share those differences as well as different wheelbases & different interiors.

>>28526467
Lol.

>>28526111
It’s a forced induction pushrod V8, it doesn’t need to rev to the moon. The stock limiter on the non redeye Hellcats is 6200. That’s very similar to the LT4 which is only a couple hundred rpm higher.

>>28526029
>kind of cute till you let out the horses

lewd

This is me everytime I start my chally wally.

>>28526882
lmao what the fuck comic is that

>>28526882
What the fuck does C.P.T. stand for?

>>28525718
>24cm
>9.45“
>the image implies the chally is like 50cm longer
lol

Really makes you think

>>28526985
i have no idea what the blue car is

Heavier cars are funner if you have the power to push it

>>28527018
just one of the very best true driver’s cars currently on sale

>>28527022
i still have no idea what it is

>>28527061
lurk moar then

>>28527061
alpine a110
you could search image or look at the logo

>>28526882
(((they))) hate MOPAR because it's the solution to race relations

>>28527093
What was the original Dodge logo like again? Oh, right.

>>28527022
>auto only
>driver's car
pick 1 (one)

>>28527105
see how they have corrupted your mind? Dodge brothers were presbyterian and made their own logo.
And the lawsuit was ironically Ford trying to kike them out of starting their own business

>>28527117
there’s a reason virtually no pro race driver uses a manual meme in their private daily of choice.
except for some zoomer chuds in their type R‘s

>>28527317
well good thing I'm not a pro racing driver nor am I interested in a track toy for setting lap times instead of a fun car to drive swiftly on public roads with good engagement. you know, a driver's car. not a race car.

>>28527321
yeah I too miss driving slow shitboxes that need a manual tranny to keep me entertained.
actually I don’t, I love fact cars with flappy paddles

>>28527336
more slop for you

>>28526385
>rev it
>v6
they're making fun of you retard
lmao

>>28526980
Challenger Power Time

>>28527070
oh i didn't even realise it was an A lol

>>28525083 (OP)
>Why do these generate so much seethe?
It's not so much the car (although they are pretty shit) as it is the degens that drive them. No car in the history of the automobiles is more associated with both niggers and chuds as the Lx-platform Charger/Challenger. Very few cars voice that the driver of low intelligence, questionable morality, and poor taste more loudly than an Lx.

>>28527735
>girls going woah and dudes whipping out their phones while soifacing at my v6 shitbox is "making fun"

>>28528396
>that one guy with a tramp stamp

>>28528417
lol

>28528507
>And everyone clapped
Lol lmao (you)

>>28528396
Correct. The mopar is the high test man's choice, regardless of race. The true unifier.

>>28525083 (OP)
>Hellcat
It looks like a 13 year old put as many "cool" things onto a car as possible. To put it another way, it's tasteless.
I would rather drive an ecowagon than compensating for my penis size that hard.

>>28529757
>It looks like a 13 year old put as many "cool" things onto a car as possible

you're thinking of porche's

>>28529768
Porsche's what lmao

Point still stands, they look silly, and after 400 HP looking nice is all you are going for by improving anything.

>>28529497
>Being high-T means being a stupid and all-around shitty person

The sociopath mentality.

>>28528396
>The challenger is bad because....BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY
Nah I've put 30k miles on my srt8 and the only thing I've had to replace was the tires and the oil. Your 1.2 liter yurobox cannot compete.

>>28525083 (OP)


Camaro was the second nicest car made in America after the Corvette, and a lot more accessible. The muscle car that could hustle any EDM or JDM sports car in the same price range around the bends - and an embarrassingly many above it too.
Mustang is good if not as good as the Camaro, the best option by default now since GM is headassing.
Charger is just a big suboptimized stellantis brick.

>>28527117
According to drivers like Gordon Murray, yes.

>>28530152
then why are the GMA T50 and T33 6 speed manuéls

>>28525083 (OP)
Because /o/ are fagg/o/ts.

>>28530055
I bet you're too scared to slap the shit out of a girl and choke her in bed even when she asks for it lmao.

>>28530159
he doesn't drive the t.50 or t.33 daily either

>>28525083 (OP)
Because the majority are driven by retarded Hispanics who put straight pipes on and drive like total assholes everywhere they go. Every popular car has a ton of dickhead owners, but they are nowhere near as bad as Challenger/Charger owners.

>>28530192
Kek you must live in like fresno or some shit. These are F.U.B.U. as FUCK

>>28530183
that's retarded, if I had T50 money you couldn't pull me out of mine

>>28530180
>even when she asks for it

So not only can you not respond with a cohesive argument, you risk a bet that you would likely lose. Again, this just proves that Lx drivers are absolute morons.

I accept venmo btw.

>>28530263
>posts a fat 5/10
Personally, I just start choking them without asking or them asking for it. Lmao. Leaving bruises on them is great.

>>28530117
Based srt8 appreciator

>>28530192
If you had a hemi you’d understand why people floor it everywhere

>>28530180
I'm breaking it off with her for sure. She can go find someone else to risk their freedom. Not only is that not my fetish, but I'm not risking prison for it either. I'm black too so I'm much more likely to be arrested for it in the first place.

>>28530398
>If you had a hemi you’d understand why people floor it everywhere
they're speed density and you gotta get the tb to open up to keep the iats cool so the ecu doesn't cut power when it thinks it's over 100 degrees outside

>>28525108
lol, lmao even. bro ahahah my V8 Jaguar XJ L weighs about 4,100 lbs and its an extended wheelbase 4 door british limo with little wooden tables which fold down for the back passengers. Think about that, a British limo is lighter and can go around a track better than your 2 door V8 *gasp* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>28530237
You need to understand that they are toys anon. Diversions. A special machine for special times. Not something you can tolerate every day regardless of price.

>>28525083 (OP)
Because the V6 versions are the only muscle-ish car a certain type of American man can afford, they then proceed to ruin them with modifications and drive around at night in residential neighborhoods because they don't have jobs

>>28531781
I daily a Miata, git gud

>>28525083 (OP)
Chargers/Challengers aren't fun to drive unless you're mashing the throttle.
The steering is vague. The brakes (while good) are overboosted and squishy. I find it hard to tell what the rear end is doing if I'm doing anything even approaching pushing the car.

>>28525083 (OP)
Would rather drive a 720hp F150 4x4 and be completely ignored by law enforcement.

>>28525083 (OP)
Because niggers drive em. Like Nissan.

>>28530159
He developed an automatic for the T33 and then shelved it because only three people wanted it.

>>28531999
so like the a110, just less so

>>28532200
yet most crucially, available with a clutch pedal

i like widebody challengers but i wont get one because they're still associated with minorities. how long do you reckon it'll be until poor people stop financing them and move on to another car?

they dont dictate it but i cannot be associated with _them_

>>28532731
this but whyte women.

>>28532772
that doesnt make sense but go off ig

>>28532731
Imagine being so weak that you let the preferences of minorities dictate what you enjoy.

>>28532916
>Imagine being so weak
Lmao, you would know big guy
Imagine worshipping niggers

>>28532947
>t.drives a crossover and enjoys getting pegged
Whats your bench little guy?

>>28525083 (OP)
The best white trash with class ride is now a Ford Maverick Lobo, nobody knows about it and no black person is aware of it. You can beat these Hellcats in certain rally style races, they are fun as hell to drive. 40k price tag keeps subhumans away and they are super customizable. In my dreams I am painting mine to have artworks of Jesus and Mary but they look like wolves and it says Lobo Christiano Los Feroz in orange script. It’s got a forest with a giant moon and shit.

>>28532947
>Imagine worshipping niggers
When did I say that?

>>28529834
>Point still stands
Nope. i debunked your point with quite handily.
the challenger is simple... almost bland, if anything.

>>28525083 (OP)
People get mad at these because nlggers are the ones usually behind the wheel

>>28532916
>>28532964

my bench was a modest ~250 last time i checked on competition calibrated kilo plates, but i rarely do singles

im enjoying my camaro at the moment but i cant wait until i can get my hands on a low mileage challenger in a decade or so without the baggage of being associated with """them"""

>>28533968
>insecure about being white
i literally don't understand this nonsense
there is nothing weaker on this earth than being worried what other people might think your skin color is when they can clearly fucking see you driving the car
i cannot fathom being worried about something so pointless and stupid, it's something not even a child would be concerned about. yet here you are. paralyzed. terrorized, by imaginary situations and nonexistent people.
you're a weakling.

>>28525083 (OP)
LOL no one's sEeThInG, these things are just F.U.B.U. as FUCK
It'd be like wearing some fucking basketball shoes and basketball shorts, then crying when everyone correctly assumes you are trying to emulate black or indigenous criminals of color
Why do muricans try to cater to fucking CRIMINALS with EVERYTHING they produce?!

>>28534209
I could've saved her

>>28534273
exactly my point imagine being unironically emasculated and outmogged by this goofy ass zesty nigga like "oh no people might think i like wild raspberry pop tarts and dragonball z"

lamo get real fag

>>28533968
>low mileage challenger in a decade
Manual Scat Pack/SRT 392/Hellcats are already at the bottom of their depreciation curve. They're going to be expensive as fuck in a decade for a low mileage one.

>>28534459
you are literally a subconscious cuck
you literally let other people, some of whom you don't like, dictate how you act
pathetic weakling, i could snap you in half like a twig

>>28534474
Lol what the FUCK are you talking about dodges and camaros are just ghetto as FUCK and mustangs are ugly and gay as shit kek cry pussy

>>28534485
you must be at least 18 years of age to access this website kid

>>28534490
You have to pay the troll toll to get into this website kid's hole

>>28525094
5.5k redline, like a diesel

>>28534492
thats not trolling that's just lol u tk hm to da bar|??retard gibberish

>>28534496
I didn't say I was trolling. I said that you must pay the troll toll to get into this website kid's hole, fat little brown website son

>>28532034
You likely tried the non-Bilstein lower trims. That’s on purpose - the Challenge is the only true to essence muscle car, trading ability for more comfort.
Hellcats have stiffer everything, bespoke anti-sway bars, unique alignment settings.

>>28532731
Already happening - the show must go on and these cars are now at least 2 years old. Also I’ve seen a serious shift towards Trackhawk/Durango lately.


>>28534494
6,250 RPM on the Hellcat (stock ecu).


I love me a Chally, br/o/s… Base trim, high trim, old, new, riced or stock.
Picrel is my humble widebody M6.

>>28526174
god damn you are stupid lmao.

>>28531999
Miatas are efficient, lightweight and economical grocery getters. A sensible car for a sensible driver.
Not really comparable at all to a T.50.

>>28525083 (OP)
>pigfat
>fun