You DO own the best all-around daily driver/track performance vehicle don't you /o/?

>>28526276 (OP)
>slop of compromise
No thanks. Get a better job and buy a dedicated track car.

>>28526277
>dedicated track car
>not making every back road your personal track
i make 6 figures on 40 hours with a pension, my finances are gucci but i'm not shelling out for a c8 z06 to have a special track car
if anything if i bought a second car i'd buy a miata
also literally every car on the road is a compromise with different parameters optimized
the N by far gives you the most car per dollar and it's not even close

>>28526276 (OP)
>>28526282
Why do you keep shilling this car? You've repeated this blogpost here multiple times. FWIW I own it, it's absurdly uncomfortable and still suffers from wheelhop. It is not a good daily if you live anywhere with potholes.

>>28526421
they need to make big engine + comfy suspension + soft rubber tires
Kia needs to become what Buick always should have been

>>28526510
I think you can get that with their turbo 4 Genesis. I just don't want to pay more than 35k for a gook car.

>>28526421
the seats are /comfy/ af, and the suspensions not even crazy stiff in normal mode but it's not a luxury barge
no issue with wheelhop here either, i can hit 60 in 4.8 seconds with traction control turned off

>>28526516
>the seats are /comfy/ af, and the suspensions not even crazy stiff in normal mode but it's not a luxury barge
>no issue with wheelhop here either, i can hit 60 in 4.8 seconds with traction control turned off
I got mine with stock skid plates. I offroad it all the time. The stock skid plates give me peace of mind.

2023 dodge charger is cooler

>>28526513
I've heard its softer than the Stinger suspension but it's probably too firm still.The G70 is a bit older of a design and needs to be updated (and embiggened) its way too small and should be a hatch or a wagon not a sedan.
>>28526513
>gooks will sell u a 2.0 or 2.5 turbo for less than 35k

>>28526533
imagine being black

>>28526561
Original thought detected

As soon as I saw the 25' fix the shitty front grill of the older ENs I knew I wanted to get one, the only sad thing is that the exterior color choices are so bland and uninspired.

Should I stick with the DCT or go with the Manual?

>>28526616
oh god they have the dct in it? horrid cuz the 8 spd auto is fine (though it annoyingly will not downshift on its own in corners)
ive heard the dct is a timebomb - they just removed it from the larger santa fe - test it urself

>>28526276 (OP)
>fag wheel drive
>best
"no"

>>28526276 (OP)
Yes, I own a giulia quadrifoglio

>>28526628
Kek it's not the same box you fucking goon. You're thinking of the shitty dry clutch DCT, the Elantra N has a wet clutch DCT.

>>28526639
there is literally nothing wrong with front wheel drive or being homosexual

>>28526648
I didn't even know they made DIFFERENT dcts.
Then yeah, fuck manuals.
Honda HATES its customers - crazy they won't even offer an auto on the acura-ized versions of the honda civic

>>28526657
more slop for you

>>28526657
Yes for some reason Hyundai/Kia make both a shitty, consumer grade dry DCT and an enthusiast grade wet DCT. People have boosted the Kona and Elantra N to the moon with aftermarket turbos making over 450hp and it's been reliable.

korean vehicles are terrible

>>28526616
if you really like driving manual then that's probably your choice, but the DCT is fucking mint
super responsive and shifts fast as fuck, and it's the only way to get a moonroof, not an option in the manual

>>28526675
>and it's the only way to get a moonroof, not an option in the manual
What a strange option restriction. I've been driving a Civic SI for about 5 years so I might say fuck it and go with the auto.

>>28526616
the red looks fucking mint in the sun
and its the only color that doesn't have the gaudy red trim along the bottom

>>28526664
I am going to guess the wet clutch DCT requires a heaping helping of expensive transmission fluid periodically to keep it humming that a dry clutch design wouldn't.

>>28526667
They are the best in the industry actually.

>>28526675
>and it's the only way to get a moonroof
if its the same moonroof from the kia sportage - don't do it, their moonroof is much smaller than the designs from other brands - I mean its nice and all but it really cuts in on headroom and you don't want that - I was in a ford escape uber today and the sunroof was SO much bigger - but the rest of the car was a bit smoler than my sportage and the interior was much older/worse/rental car

>>28526679
but anon, I like the gaudy red trim on the bottom, I just with there was another gaudy color besides the performance blue option... something like a purple or orange.

>>28526679
I realize other manufacturers are mostly the same - but its so strange to me that Kia/Hoondai are so stingy with the mica/metallic flakes in their paint - you can't get anything REALLY bright or metallicized - the colors are all kinda bland - though I guess the red in the Sportage is the nicest of the lot - but it's still dull.

pro tip for anyone in a cucked front plate state: buy a mount that screws into your tow hook

sorry but after a certain age you mature and dont buy fwd cars anymore

>>28526681
Every 100-150k miles. If you can't afford a tranny flush... the 35k car probably ain't for you.

>>28526692
The dealers in my state already have the plate mounts on the center front.

>>28526681
>They are the best in the industry actually.
Industry in question: Promoting public transportation

>>28526694
you are being non-specific as to the cost
>Every 100-150k miles.
I have a feeling its a bit more frequent than that esp. if you drive it hard

>>28526699
It depends on your region, employment status (whether you work for the dealer), any available coupons, and the price of a barrel of oil at the time you get the service done.

>>28526693
Actually I came back to them later in life.

>>28526276 (OP)
I don't buy gookshit.

>>28526695
fucking RIP
dealership are scum of the earth
luckily mine was p chill, my saleswoman was actually the one who recommended the mount, no predrilled holes, and they claim to hand wash/detail all their cars when i asked not to wash it before delivery

>>28526702
roughly

>>28526704
you should reconsider

>>28526705
is it possible to find non-dealership mechanics for gookmobiles?

>>28526710
>non-dealership mechanics for gookmobiles
no clue, probably depends a lot on your location
i've heard some horror stories about hyundai dealer service but went in for a break-in oil change and they gave me no hassle despite it being ahead of schedule, confirmed they use the right oil (heard stories of places using the regular elantra oil weight instead of 0w-30) and verified after that they actually changed the oil and filter so i'm gonna use them at least for the free initial maintenance visits and keep an eye out for non-stealership options once that's through

>>28526516
You must live in some smooth road state like California, Arizona or Florida. The seats pants me if I don't have my belt ligature tight because they're shitty alcantara and the suspension is so fucking stiff functions as a free chiropractor visit.

>>28526534
>gooks will sell u a 2.0 or 2.5 turbo for less than 35k
With a comfy suspension and sporty handling? The cheapest G70 is 43k.

>>28526710
>you should reconsider
But I won't.

>>28526755
the roads here are p decent
idk how they can pants you tho the seats hold me in like fucking vice grips

That’s right I do.

how cucked are we as an enthusiast community to be accepting FWD slop-compromise mobiles? do you faggots just really love torque steer that much?

>>28526276 (OP)
basically yeah

>>28527325
>stiff af for no reason
>inferior lsd compared to the N
>barely faster than the N
>10-15k more expensive before dealer markups
>discontinued for future model years
yeah no

>>28527333
>rental car

>>28527973
Also a rental, you will never get close to either one, bus rider. Bitter because poor.

>>28528023
im not middle eastern

>>28526276 (OP)
Why, yes. Yes, I do.

>>28526276 (OP)
Based on price/performance? Yes, I do.

>Can be had for about 25K
>Dead reliable
>Understressed V8 Motor that has torque for days
>A big, practical boot if you remove the divider.
>Manual gearbox with a massive 6th gear overdrive allowing for great cruising MPGs, 30+ can be achieved with relative ease
>Light weight and aerodynamic
>Perfect 50/50 weight distribution
>12 Second quarter mile car out of the box
>Handles better than anything in it's time, probably handles better than most modern cars if equipped with new rubber
>Parts are cheap and plentiful
>Piss easy to work on
>Massive aftermarket support

>>28528062
>>Can be had for about 25K
cuz the interior is trash - there's no safety/adas features, and you can't fit anything in it
its pushrod truck engine + cheap american ferrari copy

>>28528062
elantra n is unironically as fast as a stock c5 vette has way better features and amenities, warranty, storage space, interior, it's literally superior in every objective metric except for engine/exhaust sound

>>28528076
>cuz the interior is trash - there's no safety/adas features, and you can't fit anything in it
pic related is literally you, who gives a shit about that stuff
>its pushrod truck engine + cheap american ferrari copy
is this supposed to be a bad thing?

>>28528138
I like that my car beeps at me if I try to open the door and there's someone walking/biking/driving past or if I put my turn signal on and there's someone in my blind spot I get beeped at. My #1 goal is safety, not to have fun.
>is this supposed to be a bad thing?
yeah you have to pay 200k to get dual overhead cams its a rip
(zl1 or whatever its called the fancier flat plane one)
sorta weird chevy has no answer to the coyote v8 because they abandoned the blackwing v8 that was nice but ??? they never used it in anything but a year or two of Caddy sedans.

>>28528145
>they abandoned the blackwing v8
The pushrod blackwing V8 makes more power and sounds better.

>>28528159
>makes more power
not per liter it does not, my good sir
>and sounds better
if it sounds better than my kia shitbox engine, I'll take it :^)
also - when did you drive a blackwing dohc engine last?
also, my dad had a 540 in the early 2000s
bmw could do a dohc v8 in the 90s
and chebby is still selling a pushrod v8 in current year
sad!

>>28526276 (OP)
>posts front wheel drive car

>>28528103
and drive layout

>>28527195
When I go to sit down that alcantara is gook pussy tight and it will fuck my shit up unless I'm wearing pants with a belt. I love wearing exercise pants on my weekend so the car was miserable to hop in and out of.

is kdm the future
i hate the colour of the blue one id want just white or black yes i'm boring like that
been looking for a new (used) car for a while now to replace my 25 year old shitbox

>>28528213
koreans refuse to make good colors

>>28526276 (OP)
trug plus racecar is ideal

>>28528224
Both are shit dailies THOUGH

>>28528228
I also have a Honda Civic

>>28528242
USGPMT+

>>28528245
>Only drives automatics.

>>28528255
>only drives ugly slow gay pikachu MONSTER TRUCK bullshits

>>28528259
>trolling

>>28528259
>seething
RBN

>>28528164
>not per liter it does not, my good sir
HP/liter is a meaningless metric. My shitbox makes 141.3hp/l at the wheels, does that explain anything? No!

>>28528322
That it's overstressed but also thermally efficient

>>28528278
>delusional
>>28528292
>delusional
See >>28528245

Hyundai is legit nowadays.
The N is great for FWD enjoyers and the Genesis G70 is great for RWD and AWD enjoyers

>>28528076
I have Traction Control and ABS, that's all I need. ADAS and Lane departure shit is annoying as fuck and I'm glad it's not on my car. I don't know why people keep shitting on the Corvette interior, but I fucking love it. Mine doesn't rattle and creak like so many people complain about.

>>28528103
Base C5 probably, but not a Z06. Can a Elantra N do 0-60 in 4 seconds flat? Trap speed of the Z06 is also right up at 117mph (Like 190kmh since I'm euro) I can't imagine a N being above 105, maybe 110 at most.

>Features and amenities
I have ice cold AC, memory seats and navigation on my phone with bluetooth/aux audio. What more do I need? For the record, my actual daily is a Tesla with all the bells and whistles on it. If I didn't drive that for literal free since it's a company car I would daily the shit out of the Z06

>>28528532
I like being able to drive handsfree.
>and Lane departure shit is annoying as fuck
I've gotten used to it, I have it set specifically so it DOESNT correct me unless I turn it on or have cruise control on so I have to button press it on and can one button it off easily
its quite nice to have cameras for lane changes and parking and such
elantra N doesn't even have the advanced ADAS anyways
>and navigation on my phone
I really like having in cabin navigation
I hike a lot and you can voice-command gps decimal coordinates and have it go anywhere and it gives you directions and in the instrument cluster it shows directions coming up for turns - tho sadly not a map - and it does take you crazy
(the most direct even if it involves dirt back roads) ways to get places - so I've learned to ignore it if it says to turn onto some random no name road unless that road is the only way to the place I'm going.

>>28526276 (OP)
>>28526282
My 1.2 Clio could smoke that heavy POS on the b roads.

>>28526276 (OP)
I do!

>>28526616
The baby blue is fucking sick the fuck are you talking about?

>>28526699
>>28526702
I mean, I'm getting my service on the DCT done around 60-70k miles. No harm is getting it done sooner.

>>28526695
ok.....?

>>28528714
it’s not NPC enough for him

>>28528463
>trolling

>>28528532
It's a shit daily though

>>28528532
>my actual daily is a Tesla
LOL gay as fuck

>>28528541
So much gayness in this comment. You really dislike cars, huh? Why are you even here?

>>28526276 (OP)
>best all-around daily driver/track performance vehicle
If we're strictly comparing that metric you're forgetting
>M3
>Honda CTR
>RS4
>Mustang GT
>STI
>Guilia QF
>Any AMG sedan/coupe
>Golf R
All of those cars have equal if not better performance and track-readiness. All of those also ECLIPSE any sort of gookshit in build quality. Most of them are more expensive than the N but then you have this >>28528062
Hell, any 2020 STI, CTR or Golf R can be had for less than a new N and at least you won't look like a brownoid driving it, because those are the only people I see in any kind of Korean slopmobiles
How many more times are you going to make these threads shilling this cuckboxes? Until you hit 60k miles and your engine grenades itself?

>>28528762
no? it’s true.
hence why the ring taxis for both models are still in business even years later. and that’s why the TCR i30N and ElantraN can’t stop winning races year after year after year

>>28528773
delulu.
you clearly have no clue about the N

>>28526276 (OP)
>elantra
>track car

>>28528778
Kek delusional as fuck

>>28528782
What does the N stand for? And why are hyundais so ugly slow gay and unreliable? And why do they come on hilariously HUGE, beancounter INSPIRED, old-man-appeasing MONSTER TRUCK fuckin STILTS bmaooo0o0o0

>>28528788
N stands for NurburgringGODmachine

>>28528790
Why's it so slow then?

>>28528788
>And why are hyundais so ugly slow gay and unreliable?
Ask hyundai. The only good thing about Hyundai/Kia is the warranty length. Which also is a downside since it's heavily used typically and you'll find your car at a service center more often than not compared to other brands.

>>28528791
2 difficult 2 drive

>>28528782
>delulu
And you are a poorfag zoomer who settled for the cheapest new """""""""enthusiast""""""""" cuckbox on the market OR you're just a benchracing busrider lmao
>>28528790
Show me an official track time for the N on the burgerring
By the way the new CTR FL5 holds the record as the fastest production FWD car

>>28528798
>FL5
nah that car was not stock

>>28528806
>No official N time for burgerring
>I-it wasn't stock!!
Cope

>>28528784
cope&seethe benchracer

>>28528834
All those cars are slow as fuck THOUGH

>>28528838
those are the cars against which it competes retard, nobody is choosing between an elantra n and a turbo s for their daily
also the s650 mustang gt is 20k more expensive and is not slow kek

>>28528574
kek absolutely not she pulls over 1g without even trying and the lsd pulls you through corners like it's nothing

>>28528773
>Honda CTR is $12-15k more and only 1/10th of a second faster

Yeah no

>>28526276 (OP)
No, I don't own a Cayenne Turbo GT

>>28528794
>Which also is a downside since it's heavily used typically and you'll find your car at a service center more often than not compared to other brands.
hello my Kia is back
The rear differential coupler somehow was loose causing it to be hard to turn left and right with AWD on (I did not notice)

>>28528843
If that gay mustang isn't slow, why is it slower than a hyundai bmaooo0o0o0
>nobody is choosing between an elantra n and a turbo s for their daily
Why not?

>>28530033
If mustang owners could read they’d be very upset by this

>>28526276 (OP)
Why yes, I do

>>28531328
>>28530033
Depends, obviously elantra N is def faster in any kind of track setting. It's a really nice car tbqh, buddy of mind owns one. I have a lot of long flat straight roads here so I prefer the HP of the Mustang GT, it's pretty fucking fast in a 60 roll

(am >>28531431 btw)

>>28531435
*Buddy of mine. Damn I guess us stang owners ARE illiterate :)

>>28531437
I’d have bought a dark horse if they were 50k instead of 80k tbhfam

>>28531488
Dark horse is overpriced af with very little marginal benefit - I just bought the GT premium.

>>28531492
I wanted to tremec and magnaride and the dark horse performance/appearance packages but ford is smoking crack

>but my rental car has a v8
yeah but its even LESS practical than a compact sedan and the interior is far worse as well

>>28526276 (OP)
elantra? those are bottom of the barrel economy cars bud

a ram tradesman had the same 0-60 time lol

>>28531431
>ford-mustang-gt-s650-pre-(...).png

>>28531535
Hey look it's the spic that sells trucks lol

S550 Mach 1 > S650 Dark Horse

>buying gookshit
I'd rather have an engine that doesn't blow up thanks