Thread 28526276

You DO own the best all-around daily driver/track performance vehicle don't you /o/?

>>28526276 (OP)
>slop of compromise
No thanks. Get a better job and buy a dedicated track car.

>>28526277
>dedicated track car
>not making every back road your personal track
i make 6 figures on 40 hours with a pension, my finances are gucci but i'm not shelling out for a c8 z06 to have a special track car
if anything if i bought a second car i'd buy a miata
also literally every car on the road is a compromise with different parameters optimized
the N by far gives you the most car per dollar and it's not even close

>>28526276 (OP)
>>28526282
Why do you keep shilling this car? You've repeated this blogpost here multiple times. FWIW I own it, it's absurdly uncomfortable and still suffers from wheelhop. It is not a good daily if you live anywhere with potholes.

>>28526421
they need to make big engine + comfy suspension + soft rubber tires
Kia needs to become what Buick always should have been

>>28526510
I think you can get that with their turbo 4 Genesis. I just don't want to pay more than 35k for a gook car.

>>28526421
the seats are /comfy/ af, and the suspensions not even crazy stiff in normal mode but it's not a luxury barge
no issue with wheelhop here either, i can hit 60 in 4.8 seconds with traction control turned off

>>28526516
>the seats are /comfy/ af, and the suspensions not even crazy stiff in normal mode but it's not a luxury barge
>no issue with wheelhop here either, i can hit 60 in 4.8 seconds with traction control turned off
I got mine with stock skid plates. I offroad it all the time. The stock skid plates give me peace of mind.

2023 dodge charger is cooler

>>28526513
I've heard its softer than the Stinger suspension but it's probably too firm still.The G70 is a bit older of a design and needs to be updated (and embiggened) its way too small and should be a hatch or a wagon not a sedan.
>>28526513
>gooks will sell u a 2.0 or 2.5 turbo for less than 35k

>>28526533
imagine being black

>>28526561
Original thought detected

As soon as I saw the 25' fix the shitty front grill of the older ENs I knew I wanted to get one, the only sad thing is that the exterior color choices are so bland and uninspired.

Should I stick with the DCT or go with the Manual?

>>28526616
oh god they have the dct in it? horrid cuz the 8 spd auto is fine (though it annoyingly will not downshift on its own in corners)
ive heard the dct is a timebomb - they just removed it from the larger santa fe - test it urself

>>28526276 (OP)
>fag wheel drive
>best
"no"

>>28526276 (OP)
Yes, I own a giulia quadrifoglio

>>28526628
Kek it's not the same box you fucking goon. You're thinking of the shitty dry clutch DCT, the Elantra N has a wet clutch DCT.

>>28526639
there is literally nothing wrong with front wheel drive or being homosexual

>>28526648
I didn't even know they made DIFFERENT dcts.
Then yeah, fuck manuals.
Honda HATES its customers - crazy they won't even offer an auto on the acura-ized versions of the honda civic

>>28526657
more slop for you

>>28526657
Yes for some reason Hyundai/Kia make both a shitty, consumer grade dry DCT and an enthusiast grade wet DCT. People have boosted the Kona and Elantra N to the moon with aftermarket turbos making over 450hp and it's been reliable.

korean vehicles are terrible

>>28526616
if you really like driving manual then that's probably your choice, but the DCT is fucking mint
super responsive and shifts fast as fuck, and it's the only way to get a moonroof, not an option in the manual

>>28526675
>and it's the only way to get a moonroof, not an option in the manual
What a strange option restriction. I've been driving a Civic SI for about 5 years so I might say fuck it and go with the auto.

>>28526616
the red looks fucking mint in the sun
and its the only color that doesn't have the gaudy red trim along the bottom

>>28526664
I am going to guess the wet clutch DCT requires a heaping helping of expensive transmission fluid periodically to keep it humming that a dry clutch design wouldn't.

>>28526667
They are the best in the industry actually.

>>28526675
>and it's the only way to get a moonroof
if its the same moonroof from the kia sportage - don't do it, their moonroof is much smaller than the designs from other brands - I mean its nice and all but it really cuts in on headroom and you don't want that - I was in a ford escape uber today and the sunroof was SO much bigger - but the rest of the car was a bit smoler than my sportage and the interior was much older/worse/rental car

>>28526679
but anon, I like the gaudy red trim on the bottom, I just with there was another gaudy color besides the performance blue option... something like a purple or orange.

>>28526679
I realize other manufacturers are mostly the same - but its so strange to me that Kia/Hoondai are so stingy with the mica/metallic flakes in their paint - you can't get anything REALLY bright or metallicized - the colors are all kinda bland - though I guess the red in the Sportage is the nicest of the lot - but it's still dull.

pro tip for anyone in a cucked front plate state: buy a mount that screws into your tow hook

sorry but after a certain age you mature and dont buy fwd cars anymore

>>28526681
Every 100-150k miles. If you can't afford a tranny flush... the 35k car probably ain't for you.

>>28526692
The dealers in my state already have the plate mounts on the center front.

>>28526681
>They are the best in the industry actually.
Industry in question: Promoting public transportation

>>28526694
you are being non-specific as to the cost
>Every 100-150k miles.
I have a feeling its a bit more frequent than that esp. if you drive it hard

>>28526699
It depends on your region, employment status (whether you work for the dealer), any available coupons, and the price of a barrel of oil at the time you get the service done.

>>28526693
Actually I came back to them later in life.

>>28526276 (OP)
I don't buy gookshit.

>>28526695
fucking RIP
dealership are scum of the earth
luckily mine was p chill, my saleswoman was actually the one who recommended the mount, no predrilled holes, and they claim to hand wash/detail all their cars when i asked not to wash it before delivery

>>28526702
roughly

>>28526704
you should reconsider

>>28526705
is it possible to find non-dealership mechanics for gookmobiles?

>>28526710
>non-dealership mechanics for gookmobiles
no clue, probably depends a lot on your location
i've heard some horror stories about hyundai dealer service but went in for a break-in oil change and they gave me no hassle despite it being ahead of schedule, confirmed they use the right oil (heard stories of places using the regular elantra oil weight instead of 0w-30) and verified after that they actually changed the oil and filter so i'm gonna use them at least for the free initial maintenance visits and keep an eye out for non-stealership options once that's through

>>28526516
You must live in some smooth road state like California, Arizona or Florida. The seats pants me if I don't have my belt ligature tight because they're shitty alcantara and the suspension is so fucking stiff functions as a free chiropractor visit.

>>28526534
>gooks will sell u a 2.0 or 2.5 turbo for less than 35k
With a comfy suspension and sporty handling? The cheapest G70 is 43k.

>>28526710
>you should reconsider
But I won't.

>>28526755
the roads here are p decent
idk how they can pants you tho the seats hold me in like fucking vice grips

That’s right I do.

how cucked are we as an enthusiast community to be accepting FWD slop-compromise mobiles? do you faggots just really love torque steer that much?

>>28526276 (OP)
basically yeah

>>28527325
>stiff af for no reason
>inferior lsd compared to the N
>barely faster than the N
>10-15k more expensive before dealer markups
>discontinued for future model years
yeah no

>>28527333
>rental car

>>28527973
Also a rental, you will never get close to either one, bus rider. Bitter because poor.

>>28528023
im not middle eastern

>>28526276 (OP)
Why, yes. Yes, I do.

>>28526276 (OP)
Based on price/performance? Yes, I do.

>Can be had for about 25K
>Dead reliable
>Understressed V8 Motor that has torque for days
>A big, practical boot if you remove the divider.
>Manual gearbox with a massive 6th gear overdrive allowing for great cruising MPGs, 30+ can be achieved with relative ease
>Light weight and aerodynamic
>Perfect 50/50 weight distribution
>12 Second quarter mile car out of the box
>Handles better than anything in it's time, probably handles better than most modern cars if equipped with new rubber
>Parts are cheap and plentiful
>Piss easy to work on
>Massive aftermarket support

>>28528062
>>Can be had for about 25K
cuz the interior is trash - there's no safety/adas features, and you can't fit anything in it
its pushrod truck engine + cheap american ferrari copy

>>28528062
elantra n is unironically as fast as a stock c5 vette has way better features and amenities, warranty, storage space, interior, it's literally superior in every objective metric except for engine/exhaust sound

>>28528076
>cuz the interior is trash - there's no safety/adas features, and you can't fit anything in it
pic related is literally you, who gives a shit about that stuff
>its pushrod truck engine + cheap american ferrari copy
is this supposed to be a bad thing?

>>28528138
I like that my car beeps at me if I try to open the door and there's someone walking/biking/driving past or if I put my turn signal on and there's someone in my blind spot I get beeped at. My #1 goal is safety, not to have fun.
>is this supposed to be a bad thing?
yeah you have to pay 200k to get dual overhead cams its a rip
(zl1 or whatever its called the fancier flat plane one)
sorta weird chevy has no answer to the coyote v8 because they abandoned the blackwing v8 that was nice but ??? they never used it in anything but a year or two of Caddy sedans.

>>28528145
>they abandoned the blackwing v8
The pushrod blackwing V8 makes more power and sounds better.

>>28528159
>makes more power
not per liter it does not, my good sir
>and sounds better
if it sounds better than my kia shitbox engine, I'll take it :^)
also - when did you drive a blackwing dohc engine last?
also, my dad had a 540 in the early 2000s
bmw could do a dohc v8 in the 90s
and chebby is still selling a pushrod v8 in current year
sad!

>>28526276 (OP)
>posts front wheel drive car

>>28528103
and drive layout

>>28527195
When I go to sit down that alcantara is gook pussy tight and it will fuck my shit up unless I'm wearing pants with a belt. I love wearing exercise pants on my weekend so the car was miserable to hop in and out of.

is kdm the future
i hate the colour of the blue one id want just white or black yes i'm boring like that
been looking for a new (used) car for a while now to replace my 25 year old shitbox

>>28528213
koreans refuse to make good colors

>>28526276 (OP)
trug plus racecar is ideal

>>28528224
Both are shit dailies THOUGH

>>28528228
I also have a Honda Civic

>>28528242
USGPMT+

>>28528245
>Only drives automatics.

>>28528255
>only drives ugly slow gay pikachu MONSTER TRUCK bullshits

>>28528259
>trolling

>>28528259
>seething
RBN

>>28528164
>not per liter it does not, my good sir
HP/liter is a meaningless metric. My shitbox makes 141.3hp/l at the wheels, does that explain anything? No!

>>28528322
That it's overstressed but also thermally efficient

>>28528278
>delusional
>>28528292
>delusional
See >>28528245

Hyundai is legit nowadays.
The N is great for FWD enjoyers and the Genesis G70 is great for RWD and AWD enjoyers

>>28528076
I have Traction Control and ABS, that's all I need. ADAS and Lane departure shit is annoying as fuck and I'm glad it's not on my car. I don't know why people keep shitting on the Corvette interior, but I fucking love it. Mine doesn't rattle and creak like so many people complain about.

>>28528103
Base C5 probably, but not a Z06. Can a Elantra N do 0-60 in 4 seconds flat? Trap speed of the Z06 is also right up at 117mph (Like 190kmh since I'm euro) I can't imagine a N being above 105, maybe 110 at most.

>Features and amenities
I have ice cold AC, memory seats and navigation on my phone with bluetooth/aux audio. What more do I need? For the record, my actual daily is a Tesla with all the bells and whistles on it. If I didn't drive that for literal free since it's a company car I would daily the shit out of the Z06

>>28528532
I like being able to drive handsfree.
>and Lane departure shit is annoying as fuck
I've gotten used to it, I have it set specifically so it DOESNT correct me unless I turn it on or have cruise control on so I have to button press it on and can one button it off easily
its quite nice to have cameras for lane changes and parking and such
elantra N doesn't even have the advanced ADAS anyways
>and navigation on my phone
I really like having in cabin navigation
I hike a lot and you can voice-command gps decimal coordinates and have it go anywhere and it gives you directions and in the instrument cluster it shows directions coming up for turns - tho sadly not a map - and it does take you crazy
(the most direct even if it involves dirt back roads) ways to get places - so I've learned to ignore it if it says to turn onto some random no name road unless that road is the only way to the place I'm going.

>>28526276 (OP)
>>28526282
My 1.2 Clio could smoke that heavy POS on the b roads.

>>28526276 (OP)
I do!

>>28526616
The baby blue is fucking sick the fuck are you talking about?

>>28526699
>>28526702
I mean, I'm getting my service on the DCT done around 60-70k miles. No harm is getting it done sooner.

>>28526695
ok.....?

>>28528714
it’s not NPC enough for him

>>28528463
>trolling

>>28528532
It's a shit daily though

>>28528532
>my actual daily is a Tesla
LOL gay as fuck

>>28528541
So much gayness in this comment. You really dislike cars, huh? Why are you even here?

>>28526276 (OP)
>best all-around daily driver/track performance vehicle
If we're strictly comparing that metric you're forgetting
>M3
>Honda CTR
>RS4
>Mustang GT
>STI
>Guilia QF
>Any AMG sedan/coupe
>Golf R
All of those cars have equal if not better performance and track-readiness. All of those also ECLIPSE any sort of gookshit in build quality. Most of them are more expensive than the N but then you have this >>28528062
Hell, any 2020 STI, CTR or Golf R can be had for less than a new N and at least you won't look like a brownoid driving it, because those are the only people I see in any kind of Korean slopmobiles
How many more times are you going to make these threads shilling this cuckboxes? Until you hit 60k miles and your engine grenades itself?

>>28528762
no? it’s true.
hence why the ring taxis for both models are still in business even years later. and that’s why the TCR i30N and ElantraN can’t stop winning races year after year after year

>>28528773
delulu.
you clearly have no clue about the N

>>28526276 (OP)
>elantra
>track car

>>28528778
Kek delusional as fuck

>>28528782
What does the N stand for? And why are hyundais so ugly slow gay and unreliable? And why do they come on hilariously HUGE, beancounter INSPIRED, old-man-appeasing MONSTER TRUCK fuckin STILTS bmaooo0o0o0

>>28528788
N stands for NurburgringGODmachine

>>28528790
Why's it so slow then?

>>28528788
>And why are hyundais so ugly slow gay and unreliable?
Ask hyundai. The only good thing about Hyundai/Kia is the warranty length. Which also is a downside since it's heavily used typically and you'll find your car at a service center more often than not compared to other brands.

>>28528791
2 difficult 2 drive

>>28528782
>delulu
And you are a poorfag zoomer who settled for the cheapest new """""""""enthusiast""""""""" cuckbox on the market OR you're just a benchracing busrider lmao
>>28528790
Show me an official track time for the N on the burgerring
By the way the new CTR FL5 holds the record as the fastest production FWD car

>>28528798
>FL5
nah that car was not stock

>>28528806
>No official N time for burgerring
>I-it wasn't stock!!
Cope

>>28528784
cope&seethe benchracer

>>28528834
All those cars are slow as fuck THOUGH

>>28528838
those are the cars against which it competes retard, nobody is choosing between an elantra n and a turbo s for their daily
also the s650 mustang gt is 20k more expensive and is not slow kek

>>28528574
kek absolutely not she pulls over 1g without even trying and the lsd pulls you through corners like it's nothing

>>28528773
>Honda CTR is $12-15k more and only 1/10th of a second faster

Yeah no

>>28526276 (OP)
No, I don't own a Cayenne Turbo GT

>>28528794
>Which also is a downside since it's heavily used typically and you'll find your car at a service center more often than not compared to other brands.
hello my Kia is back
The rear differential coupler somehow was loose causing it to be hard to turn left and right with AWD on (I did not notice)

>>28528843
If that gay mustang isn't slow, why is it slower than a hyundai bmaooo0o0o0
>nobody is choosing between an elantra n and a turbo s for their daily
Why not?

>>28530033
If mustang owners could read they’d be very upset by this

>>28526276 (OP)
Why yes, I do

>>28531328
>>28530033
Depends, obviously elantra N is def faster in any kind of track setting. It's a really nice car tbqh, buddy of mind owns one. I have a lot of long flat straight roads here so I prefer the HP of the Mustang GT, it's pretty fucking fast in a 60 roll

(am >>28531431 btw)

>>28531435
*Buddy of mine. Damn I guess us stang owners ARE illiterate :)

>>28531437
I’d have bought a dark horse if they were 50k instead of 80k tbhfam

>>28531488
Dark horse is overpriced af with very little marginal benefit - I just bought the GT premium.

>>28531492
I wanted to tremec and magnaride and the dark horse performance/appearance packages but ford is smoking crack

>but my rental car has a v8
yeah but its even LESS practical than a compact sedan and the interior is far worse as well

>>28526276 (OP)
elantra? those are bottom of the barrel economy cars bud

a ram tradesman had the same 0-60 time lol

>>28531431
>ford-mustang-gt-s650-pre-(...).png

>>28531535
Hey look it's the spic that sells trucks lol

S550 Mach 1 > S650 Dark Horse

>buying gookshit
I'd rather have an engine that doesn't blow up thanks

>>28531927
kias are nice

>>28526276 (OP)
>You DO own the best all-around daily driver/track performance vehicle don't you /o/?
Yes I do, who needs backseats.

there aint no fuckin fast hyundais you dumb bitch

>>28528030
what's with the tiny pictures?

>>28526276 (OP)


The Elantra N is a fine car in its own right and encouraging sign of Hyundai moving in the right direction.
All that being said, you should be more circumspect with this kind of glazing, because a turbostang is faster, cheaper, and gets better mileage, all at the same time.

>>28536106
>cheaper
because its a rental car based on a 20 year old platform

>>28531431
Love seeing these on the road. The rears are good looking. javascript:quote('28531431');
Front not so much.

>>28536110
then maybe if hyundai were smarter they'd've used a 20 year old rental platform too

>>28526276 (OP)
It looks so good.
I never really cared about cars, but this is the first time I'm actually sad that I can not afford one

>>28537615
Rumor is the next gen will be hybrid only as well. Could mean the loss of manual transmission.

nearest '24 N to me is 800 miles away kek. i am still looking

>>28537618
there were also rumers of a 2.5T which will never happen cause they'd be out of TCR which they're dominating so who knows
and they make like the least power stock of the 2.0T engines in the "performance" market probably due to the 10 yr warranty
wish they could get rid of octane learning and push it to match the type r in terms of power

>>28537618
Oh I thought the image was the ioniq 6n

>>28538778
it's literally in the filename

>>28538803
I literally don't read filenames (phonechad)

>>28526276 (OP)
If it's street legal then it's daily drivable. Anyone who has a commuter car as anything other than a backup or family road trip vehicle is either poor or retarded.

yeah I do own an M2

>>28538032
can’t you just get it delivered?

I have hopes Hyundai gets their act together and scraps the EV only plans, just like most other brands did recently, such as Merc and Audi.
they had an excellent start with the N division, going full EV would ruin it

>>28539056
if they can develop a naturally aspirated straight 6 or even a turbo 6 and put it in some sort of RWD sports car with retro styling similar to their hydrogen/EV prototype i'd fucking cum

>>28539056
EV is superior. Spare us your copies.
You'll realize as well once you can afford it.

>>28526276 (OP)
>front wheel drive
>into the trash it goes

>>28539171
I have driven the ioniq 5 N which is said to be the best EV for petrol heads.
If that’s the best EVs can do, I’ll stick to my ICEs.

>>28539180
>dominates you on track >>28528834

>>28539185
Fun is what matters to me. Understeering is not fun.
Oversteering is.

>>28526421
Don't ever listen to autists on 4chan. Every bit of advice I've taken on here has been shit and backfired. I bought a Mazda on /o/s recommendation, it's the worse piece of shit I've ever owned.

>modern garbage best anything
El Am Ay Oh

>>28539185
Why did you cut it off and not show all the other cars on the list?

>>28539200
to add, the difference between the Elantran N and the brz is about 3 percent, which is about the same as the difference between the Elantra N and the mustang 500. Just showing there's a pretty narrow performance band here. Unless you're actually competitive the weakness for most of these cars will be the driver.

>>28539200
just a pic i found online
if anything i'm gonna save this now too cause it shows the N is as fast as a fucking M2 comp
just goes to show how good the N is as a do-it-all daily driver and it's under 40k brand new

>>28539221
>bases entire online car fanboy persona on a single image he doesn't know the provenance of

>>28539200
>RFC Track Edition
kek

>>28539361
i own the car tho

>>28539056
>I have hopes Hyundai gets their act together
lol
Even if they got better by accident, you'd think it would have happened by now.

Of course I do

>>28539416
Your gaping hole could never be fulfilled

>>28539380
condolences, friend.
Here's hoping your ThetaII doesn't grenade.

>>28539499
How do you fulfill a hole?

>>28526276 (OP)
No. I'm not impressed with it. It makes too many compromises to daily driving refinement to be desirable and still ends up being a car that would be embarrassing to take to the track.

>>28539531
kek i'm hoping it's reliable considering i traded in my 10th gen civic with 70k miles that never gave me any trouble but i got half of what i paid for it after taxes 9 years ago so no complaints
haven't heard many isses when searching for problems from the veloster/kona Ns on the same drivetrain
my biggest concern is probably with the dct but i don't drive it like a torque converter so it'll probably be fine
>It makes too many compromises to daily driving refinement
meh it's got as more features than my 10th gen civic did and the seats are way comfier, ride quality is similar, nvh is similar, it's a sub 40k performance econobox and it's the best on the market for what it does imo
it's not lexus or some cushy full size luxury sedan

>>28539558
So it isn't the best all-around daily driver then

>>28539565
>best all-around daily driver/track performance vehicle
it is

>>28539568
>rides like a fucking CIVIC
>NVH similar to a fucking tincan CIVIC
That sounds like a shit daily, sonnyboy

>>28539573
>literally one of the most popular daily drivers

>>28539580
>nooo only good things are popular!!!

>>28539534
You certainly wouldn't know, ricedick Kerpal

>22-24 models all around 32k
>2025 new 35k
i will never understand car pricing for gently used enthusiast models of shit

>>28539765
Demand outstrips supply, genius. Pick up a book sometime.

>>28539769
>autistically responding to hyperbolic observations

the new GTI edition 50 will MOG the everloving shit out of that N'egro machine

>>28539705
That's why I'm asking, jamal juanito "shrimpdick burrito" jackson

>>28526276 (OP)
At the end of the day when you turn back to look at it, it's still a gay Elantra.

>>28539793
>gti
grocery getter for middle class white cunts
also slower and gayer than fuck

>>28539790
None of what was said is hyperbole. Those are actual prices for lightly used 1-2 year old N cars. You're just a fucking dumbass.

>>28539818
its a beast

>>28539793
>GTI edition 50
that's cute, they presented it at the 24 hr nurburgring race, where the elantra N won its class for what the 5th straight year

>>28526276 (OP)
>worse reliability than a FIAT
lmao

>>28539840
>making shit up

>>28536121
>then maybe if hyundai were smarter they'd've used a 20 year old rental platform too
That completely contradicts Hyundai trying to fix their brand image with the entire N lineup

>>28539837
fear the GTI

>>28539849
Hatchbacks are GAY as FUCK who cares bmaooo0o0o0

>>28539059
If they built this, and priced it below the cost of a WRX, I'd be extremely tempted to buy it (and sell my evo 8)

>>28540026
>below the cost of a WRX
you’re out of luck. it’s $300k

>>28526533
Yeah no, fun for about a 30,000 miles. Then that engine starts ticking, transmission gives out. Had a 2017 charger scat pack and started slipping, put Lucas transmission oil, cleaned up the bay and sold it back for an VW arteon.

>>28539056
>put a lot of money on a long term project
>the entire architecture is reliable and fast to build
>do breddy gud in every corner of the planet except the land of the free
>for some reason trash everything and makes jew drinker vehicles to please a minority of retards
mercedes and audi have no clue of what to do, slap bigger screens and rgb lights everywhere.
rs etron gt is very nice tho the names of etron lineup is a nightmare

>>28526276 (OP)
Yes. It's a CBR650RR.

>>28539796
I can't break it down into your tard tongue. I lack the necessary hardware to sound *that* fucking stupid.

>>28539191
bought a veloster n because of /o/ best decision ever but then I too fell for the miata meme and holy shit sold it for a turbo 1le

>>28544377
they are losing money by not updating/making more n products

>>28545232
i would've 100% bought an N wagon or anything remotely resembling their N vision hydrogen/EV concept/prototype or whatever >>28539059 if they used a straight 6 with a 6 speed or dct and RWD
They compete with the Type R for 10-15k cheaper, they could 100% make a sick sports car to compete with the supra/Z/mustang gt for cheaper

>>28545257
their 8 speed automatic is perfectly fine EXCEPT that it loafs in 8th gear on the highway which is ok if the highway is both straight and flat and you are in iowa - but if you are in the hills it sucks and you can't go as fast as you want with cruise control on because of it - so i usually manually shift it into 6th gear for more traction
their dct is legendarily bad (well, apparently there's two and the cheaper one sucks)
>and rwd
makes no sense, compromises packaging - you just can't fit as much people and stuff with awd - the kia stinger didn't sell cuz it was too cozy inside

>straight six
its a kia, I think a v6 would be fine

>>28545263
their wet dct is pretty great, and would fit perfectly for the application if you didn't want a manual
i'm convinced most problems with dcts are due to normies not knowing theyre not just a typical torque converter auto, plus maybe the dry dct is just bad idk
as for rwd if you're gonna build a sports car it's gotta be rwd at least, to compete against the supra/mustang/z (just my example of where they can add an N model into the market where hyundai have nothing currently, there's no chance to gain any market share with fwd, it's just not capable of being as quick, and awd doesn't make sense either
i'd settle for a v6 but pulling a toyota and just putting in a b58 from bmw would be way cooler

>>28545278
oh and the other thing is that it kinda like is a fixable problem - the gearing cuz there's highway driving assist mode and FRUSTRATINGLY it gives you a low gear for UPHILL curves, but not downhill ones - I believe on newer models the adaptive cruise does have a curve sensor
but it just seems like all you need is a yaw sensor and it would be easy so its weird more cars don't have that
but i dont really enjoy driving i wish the car drove me itself - all i do is put in the gps
>as for rwd if you're gonna build a sports car it's gotta be rwd at least,
the whole point is to be affordable and practical they can't compete with german and italian rwd sports cars and trying is stupid
throw a v6 into the sportage or kona

>and just putting in a b58 from bmw would be way cooler
eh land rover, morgan, toyota, and ineos ALL use bmw engines - they are sluts

what kia needs is a clean design higher hp and smoother v6, not a niche flat 6 that few will buy

>>28545287
>a niche flat 6
That's a different thing to what Anon is suggesting
>but i dont really enjoy driving i wish the car drove me itself
I can tell

I might get a EN but the nearest dealers are scummy as fuck.

>>28546772
i had to drive 3 hours to get mine but they were great to work with and my otd price was 4-6k less than some of the offers from dealers closer to me
also doesn't matter as much if you plan to do most of your own maintenance

>>28539200
>$100k RCF track edition is slower than a fucking elantra
Toyotabros... why are we so pathetic

pro tip for my N'ers:
just filled up my tank and was gonna octane learn it for a sec on the highway but after 2 min i said fuck this i'm goin home and got off the next exit, not octane learned
super straight road down a hill, did a (not all that) quick pull from 60-130 and wala
i was octane learned
just a lil PSA

>>28540026
Test drive a GR Corolla and you'd unironically consider selling your Evo.

t. knows way too many ex-Evo owners who did that or have a GR Corolla daily Evo weekend car (Tyler Gennari, Boosted Films, Buschur)

>>28547946
>GR Corolla
literally gapped and gaped into fucking oblivion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv9ySQfS8i0

>>28547956
who cares im talking about what evo owners end up jumping ship to as someone who knows at least 50 (those 3 names are pretty big in the usa evo community)

its usually gr corollas if they're not going straight for the m3/rs3/corvette/supra route...10 years ago it was a lot of gtrs (r32 or r35)

the corollas drive 90% like the evos other than steering feel (which is impossible to match...that's the real evo magic trick) but the corollas are built way nicer inside (radar cruise, android auto, auto climate, way nicer to daily all things you'll appreciate coming from a 20 year old mitsu) and sound better

>>28547972
KEK godsDAMN evos must fucking SUCK if a fuckin goyota corolla is better than them in every way except steering feel LOLbmaooo0o0o0

>>28526276 (OP)
you disgust me

>>28550518
you ride the bus and get no bitches

>>28550536
i mean yeah, you think i fuck darkies

>>28550555
Im making fun of her, women make me cringe so much thank god I am a huge fucking faggot

>>28550520
>still hasn't fixed the aspect ratio of the bottom pic
>still no white children
You're not far off from a poofta, innit?

The 'person' who buys this car is the biggest loser you've ever met. Can't drive for shit. They look at a laptime on some track they'll never drive by a professional driver and claim the car is any good. It's a pigfat peice of fwd Korean shit. Everything is a gimmick and the second you push this on any mountain road you'll regret not having even the most rusted mufflerless 316i instead.

>>28550790
Good morning saars. To suggest a 3,186lb car (manual) is pigfat compared to modern BMW is a good joke. You've never driven one, and it shows.

>>28550790
>t. pigfat bmw driver who got BTFO by an N
YWNBAWM

>>28550936
>>28550975
I test drove one for a laugh. It was a hoppy peice of shit that could barely put power down.
A rust bucket e36 with 100hp is infinitely the better 'drivers' car than your Korean shit. 275hp out of a 2l these days is pathetic. It makes gay pops and bangs. Wrong wheel drive fuck ugly and no racing heritage. Go join your Korea discord I see advertised constantly on this site lmao.

>>28551037
>racing heritage.

>>28551037
turn off traction control like every other car you retard
0-60 in 4.8 seconds it can absolutely put the power down
>no racing heritage
you ride the bus
also hyundai have won TCR the past like 5 years they're literally shitting on everyone
but again i don't expect a darkie like you to understand

>>28551037
>It was a hoppy peice of shit that could barely put power down.
Every FWD car with a lot of power suffers from wheelhop and most suffer from torque steer. You don't understand the mechanics of what's going on here and that's okay. Real cars aren't for everyone. Video games are more your speed.

>>28551044
>hyundai have won TCR the past like 5 years
their competition is a golf and a civic and until a few years ago, a single altima

>>28551062
>their competition is other FWD cars with similar drivetrains
holy shit this guy's a genius

>>28551053
>fag-wheel drive cope

>>28551053
maybe they should make an all wheel drive one
OR A FUCKING SPORTAGE N
GIMME MY SPORTAGE N YOU DUMB GOOKS

>>28551071
Retarded busrider that can't into physics. Your rust bucket base model BMW with M racing colors on the front grill is a piece of shit, Muhammed.
>>28551072
It's called the G70 AWD, faggot.

>>28551083
lol I can't fit a road trip's worth of stuff in a fucking g70
gimme a sportage with a v6 you dump korean sloots

>>28551071
>literally as fast around a track as an M2 comp >>28539200
unequivocally BTFO by a $35K gookmobile

>>28526282
>i'd buy a miata
Tell us you're gay without telling us you're gay

>>28551085
Sorry your gaping maw needs to bring the entire dragon dildo collection. Sounds like a legitimate skill issue, you cuckover loving roastie.

>>28551120
im a spiritual roastie (effeminate gay man)
if the kia carnival has a v6
and is the same platform as the sportage
the engine fits
I just want DAT SMOOTHNESS and more low end torque plz
this engine has NOTHING going on below 2500 rpm

I hike, I bring clothes, I get souvenirs, I have to bring my own paper products, pillow, blanket etc.

>>28551083
>>28551088
>fag-wheel drive cope

>>28551166
You don't like cars, we get it

>>28551173
I wish my Kia could drive itself everywhere - I just punch in gps coordinates and it goes. Driving is for suckers.

>>28551167
As long as it's all wheel drive you barely notice it except that you have to brake for turns

>>28551166
You want a Honda Odyssey it sounds like.

>>28551167
Check out my other FWD car

>>28551185
>gay-wheel drive cope
>>28551187
LOL why the FUCK did your dad put that thing on fuckin STILTS like some kind have fuckin MONSTER TRUCK bmaooo0o0o0

>>28551043
Yeah bro it means people wanna race them in a series not just the occasional rally win. Racing a shit box excel doesn't count. They've only just started making anything resembling an enthusiast car. So don't get smart trying to compare Hyundai with euro manufacturers or even the japs >>28551044

You'd be an actual retard to buy an elantra n over an fk8 or fl5 type r. If you're insistent on a fucking fwd car. Looks, performance and depreciation. I don't even like fwd but when I got to drive a mates fk8 I was impressed from the second I sat in the seat unlike the n. >>28551053
Yeah cheers champ I'll keep that in mind I've probably been driving longer than you've been alive. >>28551088
On what fucking track is an elantra n close to even a base m2 with a 200 (if not more) hp deficit. Are you having a laugh.

>>28551189
'Member when you tried pretending your friend's BHPH manuel 911 was yours? Sheesh that whip musta been no more than twenty bands (no one wants to drive stick in the bay).
>>28551190
>Yeah cheers champ I'll keep that in mind I've probably been driving longer than you've been alive.
Where's your license?

>>28551187
1. 2 big 4 me
2. ancient platform and interior
3. no advanced adas
4. no ventilated seats (yes, I use them)
5. yeah I will give you that the engine is nice
No, I want a Sportage with a v6 stuffed in it.

>>28551189
rear wheel drive is impractical for compact vehicles

>>28551204
>rear wheel drive is impractical for compact vehicles
A small price to pay for a non-gay car

>>28551193
I got it off copart ACTUALLY for 50 BANDS all HUNNITS 100racks bustin out the wrapper LOLbmaooo0o0o0
And it isn't for the bay area, it's just my weekend/track car until I rice out my E92 335i
>>28551204
compact cars are GAY as FUCK

>>28551209
cars should be far more flamboyantly homosexual than they are currently

>>28551211
compact suvs*
anon, compact suvs are by far the best selling non-trucks in the world - wake up to reality

Spinnin' through ya blocc like a pop shove-it

>>28551214
Best selling things mostly suck. Mostly

>>28551219
thats a tranny not a gay

>>28551193
Congrats for showing me 4 numbers as If I know what I'm looking at or what licensing system you're on and if that means dob or issuance lmao. Also congrats for seething so much at an anon you went to the effort. You must be an American who 'paid over sticker' for a Korean fwd poser car. Don't worry I saw a fair share of retards who bought kia stingers instead of the last of the Aussie v8s. Absolute dumb cunts.

>>28551211
It's not your car. I have the title to my car (pink slip in retardese) and post it often. You've never posted a title for that 911.

>>28551235
>Congrats for showing me 4 numbers as If I know what I'm looking at
Yeah I wonder what 1989 could mean! Fucking stupid nigger, not reading the rest of that whiny little niglet wall of text.

>>28526276 (OP)
I don't, but I own a pretty good one. Besides, I like it. That's more important than me than how good it is on a spec sheet. I hope you like your car too anon.

>>28551303
Based

>>28526657
>there is literally nothing wrong with front wheel drive or being homosexual

well you were an easy sell for the jews so no wonder you shill this fagmobile.

>>28526276 (OP)
What for?
Doesn't look as though it would tow my trailers.

>>28551715
you tow your trailers every day and take them to the track to race?
fucking retard

>>28550520
I'm stacked and a fag. I have 4 cars, none of them are sovless like your econbox. enjoy your generic roastie (she will not play videogames, cosplay, or go on motorcycle trips with you)