Thread 28587086

Rate my poorfag parts buying /o/

cheaping out on brakes? i guess you could say there's nothing to stop you...

>>28587086 (OP)
Why Stop here OP?

>>28587086 (OP)
this nigga got drum brakes lmao
and dot 3 for some reason when 4 is just strictly better

>>28587143
there's good brakes on amazon but you'll only find them if you already know the part number and only come out cheaper on a small order over getting it from rockauto but you should compate shipping costs between the two either way.

>>28587607
anon a lot of cars have rear drum brakes

>>28587619
My car doesn't.

>>28587607
4 absorbs water faster which means you have to change it more often

>>28587619
maybe in 1978 they did.

>>28587086 (OP)
Fucking A-Premium lol

>>28587621
ehh nobody's perfect
>>28587653
late model mirages have rear drums. really for most cars rear drums are perfectly fine as the fronts do most of the braking anyway

>>28587143
HOLD OONNNN

Op here.
The fittings between the hard lines and the drums has rusted off and one burst.
I capped off a rear drum figuring 3 working brakes would buy me time and then the other one burst too. There's no salvaging the existing drum cylinders in their current state.
When putting the car on the lift what should have been a lift point on the frame started to crumble from rust.
Attempting to bleed the front calibers resulting in a bleeder screw shearing in half.

This is the last hurrah for a 2nd gen Ford Focus. Michigan rust has taken her. These cheap repairs are meant only to keep it on the road long enough for me to decide on a replacement, and if need be I'll replace the caliper with a sheared bleeder screw as well. It makes me sad, as I've owned the car since 2009.

>>28587653
You can still get drums on a brand new audi

>>28588043
Everything's fixable tho.

>>28588230
>over engineered multilink rear with all sorts of computer-designed linkages everywhere
>...to control the mighty braking power of fucking drum brakes lmao

>>28588252
Drum brakes are plenty powerful. The shape of the shoes makes them self-energizing, where the leading shoe naturally gets pulled harder into the rotating drum as you press the pedal. You don't hardly even need vacuum power assisted brakes on a car with front drums, they're strong enough without it. The real Achilles heel of drum brakes is cooling.

>>28588252
drums actually have stronger braking force than discs. aside from what >>28588287 says with them being self energising, the shoes have more surface area. where discs trump them is heat dissipation

Day two of the repair:
No parts in yet. I bought caliper bleeder screws locally and promptly discovered they were the wrong size. This time period between ordering parts and actually doing stuff is torture.
Also this thread is worthless without pics:
>pic related, the drum brake that failed

>pic related: the other drum brake that failed after capping off the first.
You'll notice that not only is the hex end of the fitting completely broken off, but both bleeder screws are absolutely gone.

>pic related: The front caliper and the sheered bleeder screw
It honestly doesn't look terrible. I've been soaking it in penetrating oil just about every opportunity.

>Pic related: the rust
This was originally a spot to put a jack under, to easily lift the vehicle. It's just not there anymore so the front lift arms have to go deeper under the frame.

>>28588230
>the final boss of changing bushings

>>28587086 (OP)
More like a richfag build, my car is running on supertech 0W-20

>>28587086 (OP)
Use rock auto instead of Amazon. Prices are cheaper, you can usually find OEM stuff for the same/less than Amazon charges for aftermarket.

>>28589261
returns/refunds can be a bitch though. choose your path very carefully during the process as there are points of no return. afaik a guaranteed refund or return is when you pick the option for receiving a wrong part and inputting the part number of the wrong part. if you're international and cost of postage is greater than the part itself, it's very likely they'll just tell you to keep it, and ask whether you want a refund or the correct part. that's what happened when i got a wrong fan clutch

>>28589280
Or just pay attention to part numbers before you hit pay.

It's a little late for all that now. The parts are already on their way and I'm not inclined to hassle myself with canceling an order and going elsewhere. I can only be without the car until it's too cold to ride a motorcycle to work so I'd rather get this done sooner than later. I'm currently waiting for it to at least hit 50F so I can ride to Napa in relative comfort after they sold me the wrong bleeder screws.

>>28587627
every 2 years

Bump and update:
Taking off the entire drum assembly ended up being very easy. 4 13mm bolts that are big enough that a little rust didn't do them in, unhook the ebrake cable that had rust welded itself to the connector, and cut the hard lines. So off they went. The 8mm M6 bolts holding the drum cylinders were not so lucky. On each side one came off and the other started rounding, so I will just wait until the bolt extractor comes in.

Pic related: the two bolts on the bottom of the assembly are holding the cylinder in place. The green one is me determining what size bolt I needed. Wire brushing revealed where the bleeder screw originally was, but it's just gone.

Pic of the other one. Now I have a game plan.
>put the drum back on
>disassemble it to get the cylinder exposed
>remove the drum again
>replace the cylinder because this is the only way to access the bolts
>put the drum back on for the final time with the new cylinder attached
>put the whole mess back together
>replace the hard lines
>reattach the ebrake
>pray to God that I did not screw up

>>28588230
your poverty spec 3rd worlder spec is not representative of the average car on the market.
drums haven't been common on passenger cars for over 30 years now.

>>28589390
anon plz. in my case, the correct part number was on the box, but the part in the box was a different number.