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Anonymous No.28587973 >>28587976 >>28588177 >>28588195 >>28588226 >>28588231 >>28588275 >>28588432 >>28588483 >>28588776 >>28589072 >>28589238 >>28589619 >>28590354
What are the requirements to be a "real Porsche"?
Anonymous No.28587975 >>28588149 >>28588179 >>28588202 >>28589351 >>28590755 >>28591572
inline 6
rear engine
rear wheel drive
wishbone/mutilink on both axles
coupe
designed and built by porsche
Anonymous No.28587976 >>28588376
>>28587973 (OP)
B6 engine and rwd
Anonymous No.28588149
>>28587975
this plus manual transmission
Anonymous No.28588177
>>28587973 (OP)
A good handling, mostly lightweight sportscar

redtards who think the 911 is the only real porsche don't know anything about porsches
Anonymous No.28588179
>>28587975
>inline 6
Anonymous No.28588195
>>28587973 (OP)
To be slower than a corvette less than half the price
Anonymous No.28588202
>>28587975
t. My dad works for 911
Anonymous No.28588214
Everyone knows that it's only a Porsche if a fat Mexican who drives a Toyota Corolla says it is.
Anonymous No.28588226
>>28587973 (OP)
If it's a Tiger tank or 356.
Anonymous No.28588231 >>28588237 >>28588249 >>28588377 >>28588427 >>28588526 >>28591844
>>28587973 (OP)
A REAL Porsche has:
>double wishbones bone up front
>air cooled engine or / MEZGER engine or/ Revs past 8k

A real Porsche:
>does not need to be defended: ‘we’ll akshually it has 911 mirrors and door handles!’
>does not have McDonald’s
>does not have ‘transaxle’
>isnt an Audi.

But wait! A real Porsche:
>has a sport chrono
>has an LSD
>has a dry sump
>doesn’t have a turbo unless it says TURBO on the nameplate and has a Mezger engine

Please use the above guide to determine if any car is a certified real Porsche.

A few examples of REAL Porsches.
>993
>917
>962
>997 GT3
>997 Turbo
>any CUP car
>992 GT3

Certified NARP:
>944 (VW transaxle)
>Macan (Audi platform and engine)
>996 C2 (Open diff McDonald’s with commuter grenading engine)
>997 C2S (open diff McDonald’s with grenading engine)
>991 C2 (Open diff McDonald’s with bore scoring engine)
>991 C2S without options (glass diff with on disc DLC you can’t access)
>Taycan (Audi)
>GT4 (McDonald’s on all 4)
Thank you for your attention on this matter. The list above is definitive.
Of course it also correlates with MARKET VALUE, and as such it’s not up for debate.
Anonymous No.28588236
Kill everyone but me ITT
Anonymous No.28588237 >>28588396
>>28588231
>944 (VW transaxle)

NARP posters are absolute retards
Anonymous No.28588249 >>28588411
>>28588231
997 gt3 and turbo have mcdonalds
you are a legit stupid fuck
Anonymous No.28588275
>>28587973 (OP)
rear mounted air cooled boxer engine
Anonymous No.28588372
Not be a Boxster, Cayman, Macan, 924, 944, or 968
Anonymous No.28588376 >>28588427
>>28587976
Tfw this masterpiece is narp
Anonymous No.28588377
>>28588231
How does it feel to get raped by Porsche daily brown son? Best remember that. As salamu alaikum Muhammad
Anonymous No.28588396 >>28588431 >>28589969
>>28588237
It’s a VW project that Porsche consulted on and then produced when VW decided it was shit and Porsche needed a new car. It’s a VW built with VW parts and a VW engine and a VW transmission in a VW factory.
Sorry, that’s a NARP!
Anonymous No.28588404
For me its a Porsche Carrera 4. The ultimate all rounder mixed with comfort
Anonymous No.28588411 >>28588441 >>28590014
>>28588249
But they have MEZGER engines which tie them to the 917 and air cooled 911s so they are grand fathered in. Yes, it is extremely embarrassing for the brand that the Audi A8 in 1994 had Multilink suspension and the current Porsche 992 does not but I didn’t say the 997 turbo was a good car. I said it was a real Porsche. Your 997 GT3 isn’t that different than a Cup car in those days. Why would you buy a 997 over an R8, Lamborghini, Ferrari, M3? I don’t know, I didn’t say I would. I’m not defending it, it’s pathetic.
Anonymous No.28588427
>>28588376
>>28588231
It is a certified Porsche
>RS spider derived engine revs to 10k
>double Bs on all 4
>DCT

It’s not a debate really
Anonymous No.28588431 >>28588449
>>28588396
> It’s a VW built with VW parts and a VW engine and a VW transmission

retard doesn't comprehend that VW/Porsche dynamic in Porsches racing development and how "real" Porsches actually have the most VW dna

Damn, you're not even good at this
Anonymous No.28588432
>>28587973 (OP)
Being manufactured by the Porsche company.

That's it.
Anonymous No.28588440 >>28588449 >>28588807
I dont mean to hijack this thread but for someone exactly 6 feet tall, whats the maximum height for backseat passengers to not feel uncomfortable. I know the size is very limited and the seats arent meant as daily users but could i have someone as tall as 5'7 sit their without actively pressuring either me or them?
Anonymous No.28588441 >>28588455
>>28588411
you are a schizo retard
a 991.2 gt3 does everything the mezger does but better but it's not even on your radar
Anonymous No.28588449
>>28588431
Yeah but really it’s a VW project commissioned by VW for VW factories using VW parts (and some Audi). Porsche even had a big problem with production a few years in because it was VW copy and a VW factory so they had to buy it out and deal with a bunch of legal stuff to keep it going.

It’s a NARP

>>28588440
For like 10-15 mins and you’d be squeezed against the steering wheel.
Anonymous No.28588455 >>28588464 >>28589540 >>28590430
>>28588441
$200k sports cars don’t have McDonald’s struts. THEY DONT HAVE STEEL IN THE CHASSIS.
Fucking Ferrari and Lambo are full fucking carbon fiber at that price point with 10 cylinders.
Sorry sir, it’s not ok just because Porsche does it. Why does a fucking A3 have more aluminum in it by percentage than a 911 GT3?
Anonymous No.28588459
I think if Porsche actually means steel chassis and McDonald’s struts and open diffs and no power, as the 986 owners club ITT would have us believe, that Porsche ain’t actually a good car
Anonymous No.28588464 >>28588482
>>28588455
mcdonalds 997 gt3s are basically 200k now too retard. 991.2 manuals weigh like 50lbs more than a 997 but have over 500hp and rev to 9k. i'm not interested in buying some pasta shit that breaks down when you look at it wrong
Anonymous No.28588468
Why do so many butthurt brownoids come out of the woodwork when Porsche is mentioned? Is it because they can’t afford a modern 911 so they must invent arbitrary classifications to get mad about?Or is it one autist with a macan who got so biblically BTFO that he never recovered? Hmm
Anonymous No.28588482 >>28588496
>>28588464
>500hp
465 is more real. 300lbs ft of torque.
They overheat and have connecting rod grenading problem. I think you’re a bit biased mate. M3 seems to be more power more torque more reliability and similar quality material.

Either way, while the list above clearly offends poor people, it actually does define NARP and predictably and reliably which ones will depreciate hard and which will not.

As for the GT3 nameplate? Well let’s just agree they moved the GT3.R away from the GT3 street for a lot of good reasons.
Let’s be honest with ourselves instead of ignorant and biased.
Anonymous No.28588483
>>28587973 (OP)
Among other things, must be made before 2009
Anonymous No.28588496
>>28588482
you're thinking of the 991.1
Anonymous No.28588526 >>28588539
>>28588231
Every 911 has a transaxle you stupid muppet.
Anonymous No.28588539 >>28588549 >>28588575
>>28588526
Yes, yes you’re very acutely aware of the details bravo, bravo. generally ‘transaxle’ Porsches refer to the front engine RWD 928 and friends despite your wonderfully autistic mind disliking the title being used in such a way. You see the 928 sucks but it’s ’transaxle’ gives it ‘perfect 50/50 balance so it’s actually a real Porsche’ as the logic goes. Atleast that’s the logic of the people who own them. It’s not the logic of people who don’t own them, strange enough.
Anonymous No.28588546
Thank God I'm not into Porsches whatsoever, you people are so fucking insufferable.
Anonymous No.28588549 >>28588575 >>28588576
>>28588539
Every time your diff is integrated in your transmission you got yourself a transaxle, autism-kun
That's just what the word means.
Germans, for some reason, think the word transaxle only describes a layout like pic rel, engine up front and transmission in the back. It's just another case of foreign terms applied incorrectly (or half correctly), happens all the time. Don't know if you're german (and couldn't care less), this probably applies to other non-english as well
Anonymous No.28588575 >>28588580
>>28588539
So what the fuck is this then? (Hint, it's from a 930 Turbo)
>>28588549
>Germans, for some reason, think the word transaxle only describes a layout like pic rel, engine up front and transmission in the back.
That's still a transaxle, GM did the same with a couple generations of Corvette and Nigsan did with the R35
Anonymous No.28588576
>>28588549
Yes excellent, the pic related is NARP
Anonymous No.28588580
>>28588575
If it’s a 944 or variants it’s narp and Porsche fags call them transaxles bc there are a lot of model names and it’s easier. Don’t get lost in the weeds here.
Anonymous No.28588776
>>28587973 (OP)
sports car
that's it
Anonymous No.28588807
>>28588440
>backseat passengers
You're asking the wrong question. Who in their right mind would buy a "sports" sedan? Especially if you're gonna pay 6 figures. Just get an actual sports car for actual sports car performance and a regular sedan (or similar people-hauler) for the rare cases where you have to drive 2+ passengers around at once
Anonymous No.28588811
For me, it's the 965, an Audi V8 powered development mule for the 969
Anonymous No.28589065 >>28589098 >>28589258
Didn't read the thread
Anonymous No.28589072 >>28589098
>>28587973 (OP)
Has to be made and designed by porsche engineers with performance and excellence in mind, not by executives who need to reach a quota
Anonymous No.28589098 >>28589106
>>28589065
Sames

>>28589072
What's the dick-in-your-ass quota you need to reach over at Ram Ranch?
Anonymous No.28589106 >>28589112 >>28589173 >>28589984
>>28589098
What compels a man to even think about butt fucking other men?
Anonymous No.28589112 >>28589116 >>28589173
>>28589106
german car ownership
Anonymous No.28589116 >>28589565
>>28589112
>average truck owner mindset
Anonymous No.28589156 >>28589162
If it has the Porsche badge then it's a Porsche.
Yes I drive a Macan
Anonymous No.28589162 >>28589169
>>28589156
Nice try. The Macan is the worst example of a Porsche being NARP (Not a real Porsche).
Anonymous No.28589169 >>28589170 >>28589245
>>28589162
Housewives keep Porsche in business so they can make the cars that you like. You should thank them.
Anonymous No.28589170
>>28589169
You're welcome
Anonymous No.28589173 >>28589565
>>28589106
It's your reality little nigga
>>28589112
Post your Dodge rental
Anonymous No.28589238
>>28587973 (OP)
Air cooled and built before hitler ate it
Anonymous No.28589245
>>28589169
Do you think you are a housewife?
Anonymous No.28589258
>>28589065
Is that a 4 piston brake caliper
Anonymous No.28589351 >>28589361
>>28587975
>wishbone suspension
This discredits basically all of porches cars, include the majority of their 911s lmao
Anonymous No.28589361
>>28589351
yep
Anonymous No.28589540 >>28589966
>>28588455


I telhewhut, the real problem with automotive steel these days is that practically all manufacturers use cheap NARAs (Not A Real Alloy) instead of the real shit.
Just for an example, aircraft landing gear are one of the most demanding applications in the world, that want all of more specific strength, fatigue life, environmental resistance, et cetera et cetera. And what do they use? Not carbon fiber, not aluminum, but steels. They're using Aermet, S53, M54, Custom 475, Marage 350. Real nigga shit. We're talking 2000+ megapascal, twice as much tensile strength as an equivalent volume of T-5 titanium alloy, equal or greater specific strength accounting for density, on top of toughness and longevity that is physically impossible for aluminum or fiber-polymer composites, type shit. But people don't even know.
Anonymous No.28589565 >>28589586
>>28589116
>>28589173
seething
Anonymous No.28589586 >>28589588
>>28589565
Your brown
Anonymous No.28589588
>>28589586
no kid, it's

>signed, your brown son

try again
Anonymous No.28589619
>>28587973 (OP)
>What are the requirements to be a "real Porsche"?

Coupe, RWD, Rear Engine
Anonymous No.28589966
>>28589540
Let’s not get started on Porches Zamak use. Brown dog poster will have a melty
Anonymous No.28589969
>>28588396
Same as the boxman
p No.28589984 >>28589991
>>28589106
Some of us are catchers though and prefer to picture us as the ones who are fucked.
The next few times you watch porn, picture yourself as the girl.
Anonymous No.28589991 >>28590004
>>28589984
I don't watch porn
Also you're weird
Anonymous No.28590004 >>28590083
>>28589991
You sound insecure sweaty, loosen up. What's the matter, afraid you might enjoy it? Teehee
Anonymous No.28590014 >>28590030 >>28590053
>>28588411
DKW has the most complicated front suspensions imaginable because they're retarded and must put the engine in front of the axle.
Mcdonalds struts are fine.
Anonymous No.28590030
>>28590014
MCDOLANS LOLOLOL IMAGINE NOT RIDIN' ON DUBBA BONES ESSE
Anonymous No.28590053
>>28590014
McDonald struts are objectively worse than double bones for sporty applications and Porsche knows this and has used them on race cars for years.
Their customers are just dumb and they know this too
Anonymous No.28590060
be a gt2
Anonymous No.28590083 >>28590337
>>28590004
the people in your life are relieved when you're not around
p No.28590337 >>28590374
>>28590083
>Resorts to personal insults
Aww i guess i touched a nerve, hih sweaty.
Usually that means you are gay, you protest too much.
Anonymous No.28590354 >>28590377
>>28587973 (OP)
Be brewed by Porsche
Anonymous No.28590374 >>28590578
>>28590337
hit a lot closer to home than you were expecting didn't it :^) you are 100 years too early to challenge me in internet psychoanal-lysis
Anonymous No.28590377 >>28590399
>>28590354
MUST CONSOOM!
>sips Porsche jizz©
Anonymous No.28590399
>>28590377
>not showing up to the dealer frequently for free Porsche bean juice
We are not the same
Anonymous No.28590430 >>28591245
>>28588455
>THEY DONT HAVE STEEL IN THE CHASSIS.
Hoooooly retard duster. Aluminum has pretty much the same specific modulus and specific strength as steel but an aluminum structure will fail after enough cyclic loading no matter how small.

Aluminum is used in vehicle chassis because it has a larger cross section for a given strength and stiffness which allows for lazier/cheaper structural engineering because sheet aluminum will have higher out of plane rigidity.

Ferraris are the best driving cars in the world but they're let down by their construction, aluminum is NOT an adequate chassis material for an heirloom car. Grown-up companies use carbon fiber, steel is fine for budget sports cars and frankly, it's good enough for a 911, they're overpriced cars for more reasons than just that.
Anonymous No.28590516
It needs a Jewish designer. They are very skilled at making 911's. Arabs simply can't.
Anonymous No.28590578 >>28590630
>>28590374
Congrats on coming out anon, enjoy the penii
Anonymous No.28590630
>>28590578
weak
Anonymous No.28590755
>>28587975
Name 3 Porsches with an inline 6 engine you dumb faggot.
Anonymous No.28591245 >>28591250 >>28591388 >>28591402 >>28591448 >>28591561
>>28590430
faggot. aluminum is lighter than steel and very strong. quit coping. A BMW M8 has more carbon fiber than a 911 of equal price and that is truly pathetic.
An A8 has more aluminum, because its all-aluminum since 1995. A corvette has been aluminum since 2006. Porsche has no excuse.

If its a super car its not built like one.
Anonymous No.28591250 >>28591719
>>28591245
Why does the 911 weigh less and get better laptimes, faggot?
Anonymous No.28591388
>>28591245
roflmao brainlet
Anonymous No.28591402
>>28591245


Aluminum has literally no fatigue limit. It's like plastic. No matter how strong the alloy is at the start, it's on the clock the moment it leaves the forge and enters service, accumulating microfractures and losing strength until eventual failure. (CFC's are technically like this as well.)
It is most useful in non-load bearing components where its low density and high corrosion resistance make it useful as a bulk material.
In the second war of internationalist aggression, aircraft manufacturers all used aluminum alloys in airframes for several reasons. One being that the runs of high specific strength steel alloys were already earmarked for production of ships, tanks, and other equipment likely to see battle damage. An other being that theoretical long term service life years in the future is not much of a concern if you lose the war, and most warplanes going into the line of fire were going end up shot down at one point or another and replaced by new production anyways, and so they were perfectly willing to trade on that for better performance in the today.
Of course, this had the side-effect of creating a huge technical debt in the form of a massive logistical industrial network that was built for producing craft using aluminum, so the aerospace industry as it existed basically just, like, kept doing that anyways, even if the 'market conditions' that made it make sense at first had changed.
Anonymous No.28591448 >>28591725 >>28591728
>>28591245
>A corvette has been aluminum since 2006
Only the C6 Z06 and ZR1 were all-aluminum for the chassis, everything else used steel :)
Anonymous No.28591561 >>28591734
>>28591245
The M8 is 1000 pounds heavier than a 911. Cost of ownership is also way more because of depreciation.
>Worse
>Total cost higher
Only brainlets would buy it.
Anonymous No.28591572
>>28587975
>inline 6
>wishbone/mutilink on both axles
Anonymous No.28591719 >>28591734 >>28591741 >>28591743 >>28591774
>>28591250
M8 is old as fuck btw and has way nicer appointments and more space
Anonymous No.28591725 >>28591734
>>28591448
Yeah well they still cost half of a 911
Anonymous No.28591728
>>28591448
What was the 996 C2Susing lmao.
How is this an excuse
Anonymous No.28591734 >>28591774 >>28591774
>>28591719
>has way nicer appointments and more space
Bitch you're comparing an overpriced grand tourer to a legitimate sports car. Sybau
>>28591725
And had literal trashcan interiors
>>28591561
He keeps making threads about it, too
Anonymous No.28591741
>>28591719
Pretty curious how you didn't compare the 'ring time
Anonymous No.28591743 >>28591774
>>28591719
My ancient, decade old S almost gets the same time KEKAROO
Anonymous No.28591774 >>28591798 >>28591802 >>28591837
>>28591743
Idk what that means
>>28591719

>>28591734
>overpriced grand tourer
You must be speaking about the 992?
The M8 has carbon fiber core chassis construction and more CF than the 992. It also has more aluminum than the 992 and there’s a good chance it costs less.
So how is a 992 not overpriced? It’s steel and McDonald struts vs carbon and aluminum and wishbones and a V8.

>look! the brand new 992 GTS is faster than the end of production M8 from a generation ago, see I got you!
Brother a fully loaded M8 is $140k and to get the GTS with the same appointment is over $200k and you still don’t have the carbon fiber or aluminum or suspension on equal footing.

>why is it faster.
Wow $60k to be maybe faster on one track in Germany but not faster on most tracks when you could have bought a lambo or Ferrari and gotten all the same features in a Higher quality build.

Whats overpriced again? Sorry guys Porsche is just not competing. It’s too expensive and slow and cheap to compete with M or AMG and its to low quality to compete with a McLaren Ferrari or Lambo.

>>28591734
Also, bro, the 996 is awful. You’re delusional.
Anonymous No.28591792 >>28591803 >>28591894
What's with these bench racers? The m8 is a boat and no one is tracking that shit. I take my car to autocross and have not seen a single M8. CF and aluminum but still 1000 pounds heavier kek
Anonymous No.28591798 >>28591894
>>28591774
>>The M8 has carbon fiber core chassis construction and more CF than the 992. It also has more aluminum than the 992 and there’s a good chance it costs less.
So how is a 992 not overpriced? It’s steel and McDonald struts vs carbon and aluminum and wishbones and a V8.

WHY THE FUCK is it so goddamned pigfat then?
All your technobabble and "muh advanced materiuls" and its vover 4 THOUSAND fucking pounds? And youre here defending this goyslop?

Goddamn the delusion of Bee-Emm-Double Eeeewww's is unreal.
Anonymous No.28591802 >>28591894
>>28591774
>You must be speaking about the 992?
The car that's cheaper with a better Burgerking laptime?
Anonymous No.28591803 >>28591894
>>28591792
Imagine if it were all steel. 3 tons, easily. Imagine having an M8 poster up on your wall.
Anonymous No.28591837
>>28591774
>the brand new 992 GTS
Nigger what

That GTS is from 2021
The M8 is gone 2019
Anonymous No.28591844
>>28588231
Intimacy remains elusive
Anonymous No.28591894 >>28591915
>>28591798
It’s far bigger than a 992. It has far more comfort features built in. It has a bigger engine and heavier transmission.

That doesn’t really change the fact that a customer is giving money for something with physical tangible material constructed into a thing. If you give BMW $140k for an M8 you bought high end material that is engineered and tested at the Nurburgring.

If you give Porsche $200k for a 911 you bought less material and lower cost and lower quality material for more money.

>>28591802
A 992 GT3 is not cheaper

>>28591803
>>28591792
Plenty of people track them and given Porsche marks up the pads on the 911 so much it hardly costs more despite the weight.

In conclusion a REAL Porsche should have better material than an M car. And yet the 992 GTS does not despite it price that’s ignoring they fact most people have no options on lower trim models. We can sit here and talk about 6 seconds on one track and ignore the rest of the world where they are the same speed but that doesn’t change the reality of Porsche offering an M car build quality at Lamborhini prices.
These McDonald commuters are NARP. Get a real Porsche or get a better car for your money.
Anonymous No.28591909 >>28591918
>buy m8 for 140k
>worth 100k in 1 year
>buy 911 for 150k
>worth 155k in 1 year
>B-but it's actually cheaper
lmao. No one wants it because it's shit so bmw stopped making it.
Anonymous No.28591915
>>28591894
I'm not reading all this. Turn this into a tiktok with CC over a dancing tranny and I'll goon and respond
Anonymous No.28591918 >>28591938
>>28591909
A $150k 911 is an open diff shit box with plastic and steel everywhere and certainly not going up in value and 100% not going to sniff an M8 in lap times
Anonymous No.28591938 >>28591952
>>28591918
This is sad man. If it's all those things, why is it conquering on every race track compared to your turk boomer barge?

Raped by Porsche.
Anonymous No.28591939
>used 2024 m8
>Everything around 90k
>used 2024 911
>Base 150s
>C2S 170s
>buy c2s for 150k
>TFW it went up
>B-b-but it can't go up in value
Inb4 carfax
Anonymous No.28591952 >>28592100
>>28591938
>why is the super spec’d out model that has nothing to do with my base model non sport chrono open diff version conquering ?


Just like civic fags thinking the Prototype type R map times are just like theirs.

NARP incarnate. Really borderline reddit behavior desu. A fundamentally midwit understanding of the topic with an heir of superiority and appeal to authority .
Anonymous No.28592100
>>28591952
>super spec'd out
>turboslop 3,400lb 992.1 GTS with less horsepower than a 392 Dodge Charger
>better laptimes
>shittier materials (to your vidya game incel melon who worships carbon fiber)
Raped by Porsche
Anonymous No.28592104
Says 911 on the ass
That is all