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Anonymous No.28678221 [Report] >>28678224 >>28678233 >>28678234 >>28678238 >>28678310 >>28678314 >>28678423 >>28678723 >>28678731 >>28678841
The Car or the house. If you don't give a shit about a house does it make it immature to get a sports car? I invest in the markets though.
Anonymous No.28678224 [Report]
>>28678221 (OP)
If you don't live in a penthouse in NYC or SF, or don't live in your parents' fourth property, then you are a monumental retard and everyone will laugh at your life choices
Anonymous No.28678226 [Report]
>pay the insurance jew 2x
>pay the petrol jew 2x
>constantly dodge potholes to avoid costly repairs
>all so that you can drive at 100 km/h
it's an objectively retarded decision
rent a better car when you want to do track days
Anonymous No.28678231 [Report]
just get one and make /o/ angry. That alone is worth it lol.
Anonymous No.28678233 [Report] >>28678240
>>28678221 (OP)
Sports cars are fun, but if getting one is the difference maker between affording a house in the next 5 years and renting forever then yeah you're stupid
If it's not then go for it my dude, just don't get an m3
Anonymous No.28678234 [Report]
>>28678221 (OP)
Why do you care what carlets on /o/ think?
Anonymous No.28678238 [Report]
>>28678221 (OP)
How much income do you make after bills, insurance, food, and other necessities?
Do you invest $1k or $10k per month in "the markets"?
Anonymous No.28678240 [Report] >>28678249 >>28678254
>>28678233
I have the down payment on the house pretty much whenever. I live with my parents though since my job if fully remote. Right now i've just been socking away $4k into the market every month, but it gonna be going to like $2.8k if I get the car for the next 4 years.
Anonymous No.28678249 [Report] >>28678252 >>28678708
>>28678240
Just get an ND and invest the rest.
Anonymous No.28678252 [Report] >>28678259 >>28678268 >>28678708 >>28678733 >>28679157 >>28680894
>>28678249
Do I really not get to live a little? I want a beemer.
Anonymous No.28678254 [Report] >>28678258
>>28678240
Do some math and figure out the monthly costs of getting your own home AND your desired sports car, e.g. bills, paying for your own food and necessities, mortgage/car payments, and insurance.
If you can do all that, and still have $1k left over (ideally more like $2k) per month, then you should be fine
Anonymous No.28678258 [Report] >>28678264
>>28678254
I don't really want the home though, I like maxing out my roth and 401(k). I'm single so idk if I need 3 bedrooms right now. My parents don't care since I pay for the bills and they know I max our my retirement.
Anonymous No.28678259 [Report] >>28678261 >>28678262 >>28678708 >>28680647
>>28678252
miatas are dumb, but so are (most) bmws just in different ways. if you're dead set on one then get an m2 or m4
Anonymous No.28678261 [Report] >>28678262 >>28678277
>>28678259
yah I wanted the M240i X
Anonymous No.28678262 [Report] >>28678708
>>28678259
>>28678261
whatever you do don't get a 4 door grocery getter, make sure its a coupe
Anonymous No.28678264 [Report]
>>28678258
When you get a girlfriend, you'll have wanted your own place yesterday. Just make sure that your car never eats into the ability for you to get a house and you'll be fine
Anonymous No.28678268 [Report] >>28678275
>>28678252
If you really want to, but half the people who buy these cars get them because they're an expectation in their careers, and that justification just isn't there for you given you're fully remote.
I'd just get an ND for now. Reevaluate it in a few years.
Anonymous No.28678275 [Report] >>28678279
>>28678268
Not OP but I work remote too and got a fast car because I like to go fast. I thoroughly enjoy having a car that can reach 0.9g of forward acceleration in addition to 1.1g of lateral and braking acceleration, of which the Miata can only do two and only if you put on top tier tires
Anonymous No.28678277 [Report] >>28678279
>>28678261
Do you need thr AWD?
Anonymous No.28678279 [Report] >>28678285 >>28678301 >>28678711
>>28678275
yah i've starved myself of getting a nice car in my 20s. I wanna enjoy my 30s since I already saved so much. I feel like I can go back to driving camries in my 50/40s.

>>28678277
My Dad gonna take it out on a spin to flex on some peeps. He deserves to flex so that why I want that model. I'm prob only gonna drive it on the weekends/getting groceries.
Anonymous No.28678285 [Report] >>28678286
>>28678279
ok well I'm 24. If you're in your 30s and don't have a wife or house then I'm pretty sure you have other life issues that need addressing well before you get a car
Anonymous No.28678286 [Report] >>28678290
>>28678285
I just don't want to get divorced rape. I'm doing fine.
Anonymous No.28678290 [Report] >>28678295
>>28678286
you need to find a good woman anon
i believe in you
Anonymous No.28678295 [Report] >>28678313
>>28678290
Idk i'm traumautize seeing a family friend get cucked so hard. Payed for wife school, she became a RN and moved on to another guy. It was brutal, also threatened him that if he ever dated again he'll never see his kid.
Anonymous No.28678301 [Report] >>28678305
>>28678279
Does your dad need AWD? Doesn't he know how to drive?
Anonymous No.28678305 [Report] >>28678325 >>28678716
>>28678301
I don't want that nigger to fuck up the car. Love him so he can drive it. But that trim gets the best all around engine that i'm hoping to circumvent typical BMW problems.
Anonymous No.28678310 [Report] >>28678317
>>28678221 (OP)
Owning a house isn't even a financially intelligent decision in most cases because it usually entails inhabiting a much larger and more luxurious space than you'd inhabit by renting in the same area. For example, if you buy a house in my small city you're getting two or more floors, a garage, a driveway, a backyard, an attic, a basement, a dishwasher, washer and dryer, the ability to own pets and do whatever you want with the space, an airgap from your neighbors, the ability to live away from black people, etc. That's a high standard of living that's going to cost about $4,000 per month after your down payment of $120,000. But if you rent an apartment in the same city you can just inhabit one bedroom, a small kitchen, a small bathroom, and that's it. And that only costs $1500 per month. So while you do lose money renting that place compared to if you could own the same tiny slice of a building, it still ends up being much cheaper than owning an entire building. And while I realize that condominiums do exist, in practice they are almost all very large and luxurious with high ceilings and high tech appliances and lots of amenities in the buildings, more comparable to high-end luxury apartments (which they are in fact slightly cheaper than) but still a waste of money compared to renting a slice of a shitty building with black neighbors IF your entire calculus is based on spending as little on housing as possible. Now consider the opportunity cost of not investing your down payment in the stock market for an average of 10% annual returns and it becomes even more obvious that what I'm saying is true. But I don't even need to invoke that fact, so the people who can't do math can surely still follow along.

I think most people intuitively understand this, but they can't really fully divorce the fiscal responsibility argument from quality of life considerations. They will reply to this post saying I'm wrong because living like a bug sucks. True, but irrelevant.
Anonymous No.28678313 [Report]
>>28678295
1. do marriage counseling BEFORE marriage
2. do not try to make friends before asking a woman out
3. never ever stick your dick in crazy of you will attempt to rationalize your shitty situation
4. make sure she's religious and follows the same religion as you. unless she's methodist in which case leave immediately
5. do donuts in front of her dad. he will now be your biggest fan
Anonymous No.28678314 [Report] >>28678316
>>28678221 (OP)
Depends on the car. Unfortunately you posted a BMW so things are looking grim
Anonymous No.28678316 [Report] >>28678724
>>28678314
I like beemers though
Anonymous No.28678317 [Report] >>28678324 >>28678337 >>28679188
>>28678310
>resell house
>make all your money back and then some
Your argument immediately falls apart. Kys rentoid
Anonymous No.28678324 [Report] >>28678329 >>28678332 >>28678337
>>28678317
Houses have lagged though, people don't include maintenance and property tax in the total cost. So you don't even get a step up in basis nigger.
Anonymous No.28678325 [Report]
>>28678305
You can get the 240 without the xdrive
Anonymous No.28678329 [Report] >>28678333 >>28678819
>>28678324
Appreciation > (Mortgage-Rent) + Maintenance + Property taxes
Anonymous No.28678332 [Report]
>>28678324
Is electricity, internet, and gas even included in your rent? What a cuck lmaoooo
Anonymous No.28678333 [Report]
>>28678329
you can back test this against the S&P 500. Houses have lagged. meanwhile every new share of VOO ups your basis.
Anonymous No.28678337 [Report] >>28678342 >>28678732
>>28678317
>>28678324

Yall niggaz needa git EDUMAC888D

New Yawk Tymez has an über-detailed Rent vs Buy calcul8r that factors in every minor detail like income tax brackets/deductions, projected growth of stocks vs houses, HOA fees, and every factor is adjustable. A financial professional prly can't even give you this good of a BJ, I mean simulation.

If you live in HCOL area (like Califucklia), rent easily beats buying if you don't NEED a house (no kids, don't need to have large yard, don't need good school district, et kaytera (that's how it's properly pronunsturbated in Latin)).

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html
Anonymous No.28678342 [Report] >>28678351 >>28678366
>>28678337
why do you live in an urban hellhole
an urban hellhole in CA/NY no less
Anonymous No.28678351 [Report]
>>28678342
>an urban hellhole in CA/NY no less
>the hellhole in question
enjoy your flyover opioid addicted shithole
Anonymous No.28678366 [Report]
>>28678342
I actually hide out in the gated boomer suburbs, but there are no young single women here (except underage).

Will prly have to end up getting some Instagrammable penthouse bullshit to appeal to yuppie bitches
Anonymous No.28678380 [Report] >>28678385 >>28678398 >>28678399 >>28678734
I have an M3 and I think about selling it every single day. I love the car, but I hate paying more for insurance, gas, maintenance, and depreciation. Cars are fun, but I like investing even more. I'd rather have an extra 60k in my portfolio. But whatever. You gotta have some fun in life.
Anonymous No.28678385 [Report] >>28678400 >>28678734
>>28678380
>meaty quad tip exhaust
Anonymous No.28678398 [Report]
>>28678380
60k ain't much when your liquid portfolio has 7 digits
Anonymous No.28678399 [Report] >>28678406 >>28678740
>>28678380
I battle myself over this all the time too. When else are we gonna be young? A flex car is also kind of a marketing expense if you're a single guy. Not to attract girls purely with money, but to convey an identity and lifestyle (which is what matters to women, they don't care nor understand magic numbers in an intangible account)

But I get more pleasure out of growing my wealth than meaningless sex with some dumb bitch I feel is beneath me. The number of truly worth-it women who are marriage/mother material is decreasing by the day
Anonymous No.28678400 [Report] >>28678407
>>28678385
> all the tubing to cover up for the fact the inner two are fake

typical germoid leasebait trash owned by a fucking crypto moron with no sense and no cents
Anonymous No.28678406 [Report] >>28678744
>>28678399
Smart investing is a lot of fun, but a car is something you can enjoy every single day. It attracts more male/bro attention than anything. Women don't really care about cars. I'm married and have three kids anyway. It's an easy topic of conversation with any guy that has any interest in cars, so there's that. And I guess showing up to the golf course in something like an M3 has more aura than rolling up on my old ass Venza. Love the Venza anyway though.
Anonymous No.28678407 [Report] >>28678411
>>28678400
I only own stocks and I bought it with cash, but thanks for your concern.
Anonymous No.28678411 [Report]
>>28678407
whatever you say fake quad boy
Anonymous No.28678423 [Report] >>28678438 >>28678597
>>28678221 (OP)
The fact that so many people with full time employment are forced to choose between those shows just how much has been stolen from us. But I went with the car because I've already been priced out of home ownership.
Anonymous No.28678438 [Report]
>>28678423
Let's do a comparison:
1985 C4 Corvette:
>39,729 produced
>$24,403 MSRP ($75k in today's money)
2024 C8 Corvette:
>42,934 produced
>$72k MSRP
Now consult picrel - real median household income has only gone up since 1985

What the fuck are you talking about???????????? Get out of the city dumbass. Actually don't, I probably don't want you living near me
Anonymous No.28678585 [Report]
Anonymous No.28678597 [Report] >>28678602
>>28678423
This is why we need to overthrow the US government and institute the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Anonymous No.28678602 [Report]
>>28678597
>dictatorship of the proletariat
>society if the 85 IQs ruled
look no further than africa
Anonymous No.28678708 [Report]
>>28678249
Yuck
>>28678252
Beemers are motorcycles
>>28678259
What BMWs do you own?
>>28678262
My BMW sedans get much more attention than the coupe
Anonymous No.28678711 [Report] >>28678721 >>28679171
>>28678279
Bruh waint no one finna b flexin in a 2 series, to use the ebonics of our times
Anonymous No.28678716 [Report]
>>28678305
Typische BMW problems are brought on by shitty owners. Take care of your BMW and it will be reliable
Anonymous No.28678721 [Report]
>>28678711
>flexin
>ebonics of our time
Unc lost aura
Anonymous No.28678723 [Report]
>>28678221 (OP)
If you can't afford the car you can't afford the house that costs 10x more to purchase and maintain
Anonymous No.28678724 [Report]
>>28678316
Beemers are motorcycles
Anonymous No.28678731 [Report]
>>28678221 (OP)
> If you don't give a shit about a house does it make it immature to get a sports car?
Yes. Buying a fast car over a house makes you look like an immigrant.
Anonymous No.28678732 [Report] >>28679171
>>28678337
"oh dang" why'd you put that thang on fucken stilts like some kind have fucken MONSTER TRUCK bruh that shit look fire for real jaykay lolz
Anonymous No.28678733 [Report] >>28678751 >>28679000
>>28678252
You are in your 20s. Splurging now to live a little instead of trying to do choices that make your life in 40s or 50s better is idiotic in this scale.
Anonymous No.28678734 [Report]
>>28678380
M3s aren't sports cars
>>28678385
>ricer
Anonymous No.28678740 [Report]
>>28678399
What's a "flex car?"
Anonymous No.28678744 [Report]
>>28678406
>just npc things
Anonymous No.28678751 [Report]
>>28678733
Not really. Nothing's ever promised tomorrow, today.
Anonymous No.28678819 [Report]
>>28678329
this is entirely dependent on your zipcode
p No.28678841 [Report]
>>28678221 (OP)
>sports car
I mean lets be honest, these are lifestyle cars with sporty styling, and most people just call them cuckmobile cars.
Anonymous No.28679000 [Report] >>28679017
>>28678733
That not how it works. I already did an NPV analysis on this. Cost to finance would be really only $2k over a 48 period loan at 5.49% interest rate.

I also mapped it against a 7% return in the S&P 500. So with interest + Loan you really only lose $2.5k a year in opportunity cost plus the financing cost. Sports car are really only cool in your 20s/30s and maybe yes early 40s. Past that it mid-life crisis territory and i'd be happy driving a Tacoma.
Anonymous No.28679017 [Report]
>>28679000
>$2.5Gay a yurr

not bad, that's a lotta pipo's Comcast bill

and Ultimate Mashallah Machines are def more fun than watching stupid TV shows
Anonymous No.28679072 [Report]
A sports car is always immature. Even if you are the richest man in the world, you never need a sports car.
But being a bit immature is okay, nobody's a robot.
Anonymous No.28679113 [Report] >>28679195 >>28679215
Why are Americans so obsessed with owning homes? Reading these threads sometimes you'd think they're just born so they can buy a house and then die in it.
Anonymous No.28679157 [Report]
>>28678252
Just get the car it'll make you much happier than these nerds are saying, and you're only that young once.
Anonymous No.28679171 [Report]
>>28678711
>>28678732
reminder
Anonymous No.28679180 [Report]
Anonymous No.28679188 [Report]
>>28678317
No, most of your money goes to interest maintenance and taxes, you don't get it back. And houses are some of the most illiquid assets you can buy. It takes months and costs tens of thousands just to buy and sell them, requiring lawyers, inspectors, realtors, and every other type of scammer that comes out of the woodwork to take their cut. Making money on a house on average was only achieved by one generation (boomers in America) due to a confluence of factors that made them incredibly lucky.
Anonymous No.28679195 [Report] >>28679213
>>28679113
Bugman. Enjoy paying off someone else's mortgage plus tip.
Anonymous No.28679213 [Report]
>>28679195
That's fine. I can think of 100 things I would rather spend money on than a big box for essentially my bed and some appliances.
Anonymous No.28679215 [Report]
>>28679113
amerimutts are goyslaves that have no real identity, so their path through life is defined by some boomers in the 60s.
you HAVE to do x y z at certain ages or youre a failure.
your worth is determined by this socioeconomic status.
Anonymous No.28680647 [Report] >>28680717 >>28680741 >>28680880
>>28678259
>miatas are dumb
More people race miatas than any BMW so I think you might be coping about your grenade on wheels
Anonymous No.28680717 [Report]
>>28680647
miatas can't even keep up with my slow daily what the fuck are you talking about
Anonymous No.28680741 [Report]
>>28680647
More people race rental karts than your Miata so I think you might be coping about your grenade on wheels
Anonymous No.28680880 [Report]
>>28680647
That's more of a budget thing.
Nobody will insure your track toy and people can't afford to lose $100k cars because a 20 y/o in a shitbox civic cooked his brakes.
Anonymous No.28680894 [Report] >>28680931
>>28678252
Live in a way that doesn't weigh you down. If you can afford this beemer, either getting a low interest rate, or better yet, paying for it in full, and you don't care about depreciation, and you can afford fuel, insurance and maintenance, and it's a car that you will make good memories and have good experiences with(road trips, driving with friends, road trips, track days, late night cruizin, etc), and your housing is more or less settled at the moment, then you should buy it. If you can't afford that then don't, because it will weigh you down. Everyone races towards a mortgage, and houses are nice, but you have to be content to get a house, because it's something that will often slow you down and stick you in one place, cars are much more fluid.
Anonymous No.28680931 [Report]
>>28680894
>road trips, driving with friends, road trips,
Keep in mind that your friends probably won't be into this unless they are also into cars. If your car is too nice -- or much nicer than theirs -- they actually won't want to ride with you