Thread 2825523

This board is so dead/shilled. what a shame.
new seasons of Alone has started airing!

https://www.history.com/shows/alone/season-12

>>2825523 (OP)
Had no idea it’s started airing. In the middle of nowhere so no data, is it good?
Africa should be easy mode compared to Alaska, if they picked inexperienced people I’m not going to watch it.

>>2825536
watching episode 1 right now. looks like they got a pretty good crop of experienced people. dehydration and over heating are going to be the big threats now. Definitely seems promising so far

>desert
No thanks

>>2825523 (OP)
First episode was pretty good. Looks like some decent contestants. First mid size game kill on first episode is, hopefully, a good sign. I don't see any Pablos yet.

>>2825543
yeah, seems to be plenty of big game running around. I hope someone has a close encounter with a rhino.

>>2825543
Any retarded regulation like ”you can’t kill X”?

>>2825549
They haven't mentioned any yet. And there's nothing on the history channel site. But there are always some restrictions. So I can't say there aren't any. We'll have to wait and see.

>>2825549
The pre-show show where they were onboarding the new contestants included a few secs on legal game, but I didn't get a look at the list. But that there was such a such a section in contestant prep would seem to indicate that there are indeed restrictions - I would guess that the rhino are off limits without an $$$$ hunting license. But there's so much game running around that I doubt it will be a factor, since warthog are ok and afaik baboon are legally vermin in south africa. It seems more significant that there are an awful lot of predators around that don't care that it's illegal to hunt humans.

>>2825523 (OP)
we're not getting "who can starve and freeze the longest in an arctic winter" this season?
sweet
anyone got a streamingsite that has this? havent watched any series since last alone season

>>2825549
E2, apparently zebra is off the menu.

Luke, I shat my sleeping bag and shot blindly at a bear cub, Olson's brother Nathan is on this season. Second Olson, let's hope he has a better showing..

>>2825523 (OP)
Didn't know it started, seems interesting. At least we finally get an environment that isn't cold and full of trees.

Also...there's a jeet named Jit. Laughed my ass off when the name first appeared "Jit", "Don't tell me it's an Indian dude.", seconds later the jeet appears on screen.
Well done, History channel, well done.

>>2825587
https://www.tvids.net/watch1379/alone/season-12-episode-01-the-land-of-great-thirst
There are torrents on 1337x as well

>>2825587
The best seasons were the earlier ones in the Canadian west. Wet and miserable but very survivable. Also gorgeous. I don't like the arctic ones as much

So, who's gonna make it? Im rooting for the flintknapping oldtimer, hope he can deal with the climate. The texan gazelle rancher seems like he has a good shot too.
>>2825613
Wait until you see what he does first episode
>>2825614
Thx mate, found a source after a bit of searching.

>>2825574
>there's so much game running around that I doubt it will be a factor
I really hope multiple contestants get big game. I’m really hoping, along with >>2825574, for a season that isn’t a variety of this. So far the best strategy has been to just go all-in on hunting. On earlier seasons one big animal and you’ve basically won the whole thing so it’s way more logical to try for one until you lose than try and outlast the others in a starvation contest. Why live off of fish and destroy your body for months only to place 2nd or third when you can either win it all or go home after a couple weeks with your body still healthy? I assume there’s some hidden “you get paid X each day you’re out there” clause in the contract or everyone would just do this unless they’re retarded.

>>2825646
Correction,
>along with >>2825587

>I'm all alone on a show called Alone and now I don't like being alone! How could this happen to me!
there's always one or two. pussies

>>2825648
You would think that "10 experienced survival experts" should all be able to keep their shit together for at least a week or two.
I wonder how long the ones gtfoing after a few days really stay out on their own.

>>2825636
>Wait until you see what he does first episode
He jit his pants

>>2825636
That dude is fuckin crazy overconfident and skinny as a rail. Instant dislike, and I hope he taps early.

>>2825657
They’re probably weekend warriors who go out in RVs. You could easily put together a submission tape and just YouTube all of the “skills” and create little segments of you doing each thing so it looks like you’re an experienced outdoorsman. I bet that’s what some of these people are doing

>>2825779
And quit the show.
I think all he wanted was to go and shit in the street on a new continent. Next he'll go to the Americas.

But it gotta be fucking awful, go through all the work to be selected and shit and then...quit because you're shitting your pants in a show watched by hundreds of thousands of people.
Bro was a true jeet!

>>2825657
I still remember Joe Robinet quitting because he lost his ferro rod.
And, like him or not, the guy has plenty of long outings documented in his youtube channel.

>>2825859
That was so embarrassing. I used to watch his YouTube pretty regularly, he usually knows what he’s doing. I’m surprised he did not take the time to learn how to build a friction fire before coming out there

>>2825858
We are lucky that was a britisher Indian born and raised, if that had been a true born and raised swimming in the Ganges river Indian he would of been capable of
>Drinking unboiled water with no side effects
>Smeared himself in his own shit and random scat to scare off predators
>Rape the baboons and hogs
>Be smelled by the other contestants, no matter the distance
His only weakness would of been a +10 aggro of any elephant, rhino or black buffalo due to juggernaut curse

>>2825859
Was that the guy that found an old boat and made himself a hot bath?

>>2825886
No, that was someone else

>>2825885
Jej saar do not redeem!

Anyone watching the other countries versions of alone? I just hit my favorite torrent site and noticed that there have been two more seasons of alone Australia(3 total) and new several new shows including 4 seasons from Denmark, one from Sweden, Norway and Germany(all subbed) I just downloaded season 2 and 3 from Australia, even though I'm pretty sure season one was fake. Has anyone watched and recommend any others?

>>2825940
The danish is literally build fish and build a shelter. Nothing else.

>>2825523 (OP)
Last time I saw a survival show in Africa it was fake as fuck and the contestants were safely behind a fence. Hopefully this is different

>>2825940
British Alone was pure trash. Half the contestants were actors who production was helping out like duck girl. The actual survivalists left after a few days since they underestimated the North American wilderness thinking it would be similar to the English wilderness. The winner was a model for a Bear Grylls tour or something.

Alone in jeetland would be pretty good.
>contestants must tangle with the constant threat of trains, elephants, and power lines
>they are surrounded by large game but it’s all considered holy so cannot be killed
>surviving on cow piss and shit strictly forbidden
>only water source is the ganges. Corpses may not be eaten or fucked but any items found, including gift cards, may be redeemed
>lizard rape is allowed
I would watch this

>>2826164
this would make a great parody show

>>2826164
>female contestants must broadcast live

>>2825613
>jeet has a white girl
brehs..

>>2826404
probably promised her part of the $500k

>>2825895
That is hilarious and I'm writing it on the next public toilet I use with my buddy's number

I think I'm in love with Kelsey bros.

>>2825596
His brother seems like a very collected and capable tech executive or something.
Polar opposite of His burnt out druggie retard brother.

>>2825587
>not taiga for once
Holy fuck yes, I have been whining forever that they desperately needed a new location. This is awesome, I look forward to new meta finally.

>>2825613
>literal Jeet on the season, appears insufferable
>135lb chicken leg dipshit
>"I teach survival for decades"
>is day 3 tap out because his tummy hurt
Glorious. He lacks the self awareness to realize what a joke he is unfortunately.

>>2825636
>who's gonna make it
All of us.
But also this season is stacked.
>crazy horse girl even gets warthog day 2
Only person I dislike is Dug, seems a douche.

>>2826449
Not a Callie but close.
I need a mildly autistic horse girl huntress in my life. Comes with 30 pounds of salted bacon.

>>2826276
Lol. True survival horror challenge.
>10 items include semi automatic rifle with 200 rounds of ammo to make it fair

>>2825955
It is different.
US Alone has been pretty legit all 11 seasons prior. There's been some murmuring that the best locations were given to diversity contestants but nothing beyond that. Regardless, middle aged white guy wins 90% of the time.

>>2825613
It had to be on purpose. And he was clearly not a good candidate.
Someone at HQ insisted the show must include an Indian no doubt and the casting director did the needful with gusto.

>>2825549
>restrictions
Zebras and rhinos. Probably anything big game hunters care about. Random african-deer and cows and pigs seem fine, plus baboons, so there's a lot of choice.

>>2826535
>rhinos
to be fair if you can kill a rhino with your bare hands you won anyway

>>2826535
It also sounded like Kelsey was saying they have restrictions based on the bow draw weight. She say an animal and said it was a 60lb animal and she only had a 50lb bow.

>>2826532
>His brother seems like a very collected and capable tech executive or something
Has he even done anything since his intro on the first episode? I don't even remember seeing any clips of him.

>>2826545
>you need a 60lb bow to take out a 60lb animal
tell me i misread that
and its totally fair enough that handmade bows arent allowed to be over x lb if you dont want your contestants to accidently behead themselves if something breaks

>>2826547
It doesn't have to do with the weight of the animal, not like that anyway. The different animals have a draw weight requirement for the contestants to hunt them. In episode one at around 43 minutes in, Kelsey sees a Water Buck. She mentions that you need a 60lb draw recurve to hunt them. The text on the screen basically says the same. Because she only has a 50lb bow, she cannot hunt Water Buck, regardless of their individual weight.

>>2826548
oh its a rule the contestants are under? i havent watched any of the show lol
but she knows that you *can* kill an animal that weighs more than your bow draw weight right?

>>2826565
Yes, it's local hunting regulations, not her choice.

Minimum Equipment Requirements for Bow hunting in South Africa
- Big Game
Bow Kinetic Energy 80 ft/lbs
Arrow Weight 700 grain
(Elephant, Rhino, Hippo, Buffalo)

- Medium Game
Bow Kinetic Energy 70 ft/lbs
Arrow Weight 550 grain
(Kudu, Eland, Oryx / Gemsbok, Hartebeest, Wildebeest, Zebra, Giraffe, Sable Antelope, Roan Antelope, Waterbuck, Tsessebe, etc.)

- Small Game
Bow Kinetic Energy 40 ft/lbs
Arrow Weight 400 grain
(Warthog, Nyala, Springbok, Impala, Blesbok, Duiker, Steenbok, Ostrich, Caracal, Black-Backed Jackal, Game Birds, etc.)

>>2826590
^^-- This is from South Africa's bow hunting regulations. This is what's being referred to here >>2826545

>>2826590
>80 ft/lbs
>700 grain
>can kill a rhino, hippo, elephant, buffalo
jesus christ, how optimistic are these people? i would love to meet the guy that can kill an elephant with one shot from a handmade bow

>>2826595
That's minimum, not recommended.

Also may be dated, found in a forum dated from 2016...

>>2826597
even if its the minimum thinking that you can kill a rhino with a bow is peak arrogance
doesnt matter what your draw weight is

>>2826595
There's no requirement that the bow be hand made, just must be a recurve or other simple bow.

>>2826598
Well, for the show at least, it sounds like rhino and zebra are specifically off the menu. Not sure if purely for safety or also for optics. I haven't been able to find a copy to watch of the before the drop episode yet. They usually talk about that sort of stuff in that episode.

>>2826601
the tv show is alone
they have to hand make everything themselves right?
again i havent seen a single episode but if theyre given a bow i cant imagine how it would be interesting

>>2826604
No, that's not the rules of Alone. Each participant gets a base set of items and then chooses 10 items from a list to complete their gear setup. A bow with 10 arrows can be and usually is one of the 10 items. You can see a full list at https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-list you can also see what 10 items each chose at https://www.history.com/shows/alone/cast

>>2826605
>>2826604
And the gear isn't provided or paid for. The participants all have to but it themselves. It's around a $5-10k investment to become an Alone participant.

>>2826546
No. That's how you know he makes it fairly deep into the season.

>>2826545
I think most countries have something like that. Where I'm at the legal minimum bow for hunting whitetail deer is 45 lbs draw weight. They don't base it on KE, just on draw weight, but since in traditional archery with cedar arrows and a double bladed broadhead the weight of the arrow needed to fly straight goes up proportionally with the draw weight of the bow, so restrictions based on draw weight are a good enough proxy for a minimum. Pretty much any other type of setup will outpenetrate a wooden bow shooting wooden arrows, but if you can't pull 40-45 lbs then you probably should stick to gonnes.

>>2826604
They aren't given a bow, but they can bring their own assuming it meets the show's rules. Doing so takes up iirc two of their 10 allowed items though. Allowed items include bow, arrows, gill net, knife, saw, hatchet, fish hooks, fishing line, paracord, whetstone, etc. Depending on the location, some people choose to bring a gill net instead of bow+arrow. Some people make their own gill net from scratch using fishing line or the strands from inside their paracord item (iirc Clay Hayes, winner of season 8 did this, made his own netting needle out of wood, then spent several days making his gill net).

What you think of the guys bringing salt and soap?
Ive been thinking before that Id be very tempted to bring salt, because fuck eating a couple months without it and you can cure your fish and meat.
But soap, wood ash should be good enough. Then again is afrika and there's all kinds of really nasty shit in the water...

>>2826614
>>2826605
what? so its just endurance camping but you cant bring any food? i thought they were just dumped in the woods with only the clothes on their backs and whatever their hands can do

>>2826705
Some seasons more so than others....

>>2826611
I was going to say the same.
Granted 4/10 are done on day 5 I think now.

>>2826705
Its a midpoint between naked survival and coming fully equipped. Its basic bushcraft gear, fairly limited and often rudimentary (the bows particularly).

>>2826690
Salt maybe. They will sweat a ton, but most seasons it'd be meme.
Soap god no.

>>2826916
they should just be given a one piece tracksuit, 1500 calories in hardtack and 1 liter of water in a bottle they have to burn on camera on the second day
nothing more

Why is it there's always 1 guy each season that taps on day 3 because
>omg I can't be Alone without having a mental breakdown so I decided to compete to see how long I could be Alone on the show Alone but now I'm going crazy aaaa
Have these people literally never gone camping by themselves once in their lives and are categorically incapable of not being around other people for less time than it takes to die of thirst?

I understand it gets hard after weeks, but seriously, 3 days?

>>2826918
On this note, what are respectable standards for a tap-out?
>1 month minimum
>or serious fracture/impalement/cut your hand with an axe like a retard
>or serious infection over days
>or bad fever and puking up blood (I guess that's fine)
>or... ?

So far, only Will had a respectable tap out.
Other 3 are pussies:
>spend 100hrs putting together submittal
>spend thousands of dollars
>spend months preparing
>take off work, tell everyone you know about what you're going to accomplish
>whole family and friends and coworkers will see
>on national television
>>oh no, I feel sad or had diarrhea one time
>>tap out 53.8 hours in
>>>surely people will understand

>>2826920
>On this note, what are respectable standards for a tap-out?
1 month, if you're not getting much food. At least two weeks if you're not getting anything at all. I've voluntarily water fasted for a week and know it's easily doable.
Any major injuries like deep cuts that need stitches or becomeinfected, broken bones, anything that could lead to life long debilitation.
If you're exploding from both ends, that can be life threatening without the means to keep yourself hydrated. The only time I've been hospitalized in my life was from food poisoning that led to severe dehydration.
The depressed retards are just weak and wasted their, our and another good contestant's time and opportunity. They should be penalized beyond looking like the losers they are. Some sort of contractual fine.

>>2826918
>>2826920
the show gets these unstable people on purpose

>>2826595
Just tip the arrow with fentanyl.

>>2826918
My guess is these are the types that go hunting with buddies in their trucks or go camping with their trailers and consider themselves outdoor survival experts. They probably think it’s going to be an easy $500,000 and maybe have never watched past seasons or some thing

>>2826966
I am starting to think so. It is too consistent. I feel like the casting director has 10,000 candidates and after 12 seasons has learned how to pick both the winners and the most ridiculous losers and gives us a mix for entertainment.

>>2826930
Extreme food poisoning, sure. As in can't do anything but shoot fluids out both ends endlessly.
I also did a fast for 6 days (while bingeing Alone for the first several seasons). I understand it sucks the wind out of you, but it's manageable.
I also did a 6d backpacking trip where I ended up only getting about 500-800 cal per day while hiking in the mountains, due to a bad batch of granola ruining my supplies. I survived, and it was considerably more work than most contestants do on week 1.
Also didn't see another person for most of it, didn't go insane. Was joyous.

>>2826998
They consistently have a macho personality. I'd have to revisit past seasons to go deeper into it. Most people who come on with an attitude wash out quickly.
'Will' also had a lot of ego riding on the show and had to tap early. I do think his tap was legit, but I also doubt he would've lasted long regardless. Didn't even bother to put on weight. Zero respect for anyone who doesn't even do that basic prep work.

>>2826920
>respectable standards for a tap-out
non-voluntary/medical emergency/functional incapacitation. Like the two guys that retardedly ate the cactus (Will this last episode, and the pajeet in Ep 1), or the guy in one of the northen Canada episodes that slipped on a wet rock and broke his leg. Even the idiot that accidentally his own arrow into his thigh had a valid reason for tapping out immediately, a wound that deep is gonna be debilitating for a long time even if it doesn't get massively infected and he was damned lucky he didn't clip his femoral. But tapping out because you felt bored or "completed your personal journey" is just pussy-tier bullshit with cat ears on top.
I expect we'll continue seeing a fairly rapid winnowing of the contestants this episode, this is their first time in this sort of environment so nobody's figured out the meta yet, e.g. don't eat the fucking cactus, bring a water bottle because water is life, etc. We saw the same thing in the arctic episodes and eventually people figured out that building thick assed shelters and not burning your house down were important.

>>2826966
In the show's defense, some of these nutters get pretty amusing as they get crazier and crazier from the isolation.

>Rooting for the escaped-Soviet Unions-collapse guy.
>Seems good, great mentality, skillset, etc.
>Then he mentions that.. He didn't take a ferro rod
Nooooooooo
Come oooon, just take iiiiit. Don't fuck yourself in the ass like that.

I understand the rationale but even in the best-case scenario it's such a huge convenience that saves so much energy.

>>2827281
So does a water bottle though. He just has to make sure his fire never completely goes out.

>>2826966
One thing I absolutely hate is how often the unstable ones are the first to get a good setup, have tons of fish and are ready to rock it out and they just get depressed and quit
I already know now the moment any contestant starts talking about missing their family or is fantasizing about goyslop that they are gonna break within the next week or two

>>2826918
When this dude tapped I actually felt respect for him for a change. Normally when these first week tap-outs happen they justify it to themselves about "not wanting to leave their kids alone" or "my dad is sick and I should spend time with him" bullshit. This guy literally said "I want to leave because I feel depressed."
He didn't lie to himself or us (for once). He straight up said why he wanted to leave and why it sucked.

Props.

>>2827281
I hope he realizes there's flint and other minerals all around him that can spark on steel.
Granted, he needs charcloth or something that will hold an ember, but that would save him.

>>2827281
>>2827398
He's already started a fire with his bow drill in E2. I'm not worried about his ability to make fire. It's how we made fire for thousands of years. People act like a ferrocerium is some ancient way of starting a fire. It's a product of the 20th century, invented in 1903. It is a very effective way to start a fire, but it is not at all primitive. He can use flint if he has some high carbon steel he can strike a spark off of. Otherwise he's best off with the bow drill he's already successfully used.

>>2827293
>only weathered softwood available
He's going to spend half his time on that bowdrill. And he halfassed its construction, so its fiddly as can

>>2827398
>flint
Great point. Its so rare to have nearby that I forgot all about it, probably he did too unfortunately.

>>2827425
>And he halfassed its construction
He's allowed to make another one and construct it better this time. And there are pretty certainly hardwoods available with a bit more looking. Other contestants in other seasons have passed on the ferro rod and done ok (afaik none have won, but their loss wasn't because of the lack of a ferro rod).

These people get a solid amount of time in the area before the actual competition starts, where they are supposed to learn about and acclimate to the region. Its absurd how few contestants prioritized water this season.

First tap out for water. I'd say they're getting approx 2l of water per boil, probably an hour of labour to 3 boils for 6 litres, no travel to the water source... Is it really that hard?

>>2827541
>3 boils for 6 litres
which does you fuckall if you don't have a way to store it or carry it.

>>2827542
This.

The guy who hollowed out a root ball for water storage has the right idea in my mind. Spend all night filling that thing up with fresh water, so even when you do 2 or 3 boils during the day you can stay hydrated during the wait

>>2827543
Didn't one of the women cut out a chunk of her tarp to use as water storage?

>>2827543
I'm curious to see if that thing will actually hold water or drip it out the bottom faster than he can fill it, what with roots being designed to move water elsewhere.

>>2827544
Look at all those gaps in the tarp for insects and reptiles to ingress the water. Per the episode, she's supposed to be saving CLEAN water in this???

Like okay, sure, you get back to the area from a big day of hunting and its technically "cleaner" than drinking out of the lake. That's still the kind of risk that ends runs on this show, especially in this environment.

>>2827565
She'd be better off making a bag out of that and hanging it from a tree, at least she could keep it secure that way. Harder to drink/pour out of, but a hell of a lot safer.

I bet she smells good bros

>>2827982
i thought mommy nicole was the perfect waman but she's pretty damn good too

>>2826966
The best was the guy who almost had a heart attack like a day or two in

>>2828323
Don’t forget the nigger who quit after only a few hours. First season I believe

>>2828337
I think the fastest tap-out was the guy who slipped on a rock and snapped his leg in two just a few minutes after being dropped off, I don't think the boat had even made it back to base camp to get the next contestant. Not faulting him for making the call, that's a good reason to tap out, but the poor guy only got a few seconds of show time for his pain.

>>2828358
Yeah accidents happen

>>2828358
was that the team season?

>muh kids
>muh family struggle
>muh legacy
holy FUCK does history channel think exclusively women watch this show or something? enough with the "personal struggle" bullshit from every participant. I want to hear about tricks and strategies to ackshually survive, not how muh divorce was so hard on me BS. fuck

>>2828664
They're at least a third of viewership, its not unreasonable they'd get a slice of airtime. Yes women need this sort of nonsense to engage. Just skip their segments if you like.

>someone catches a fish and talks about cities
>someone else catches a fish and talks about his dad
>someone does nothing and talks about his dad
>someone does nothing and talks about her divorce
>someone weaves reeds into their shelter
>oh no its going to rain!
One of the worst episodes of the entire series. Still just getting to day 8. What was the point of making such a filler episode?

>>2828866
Seriously. Nothing happened the entire episode except muh feelings. We’re on day eight and already down at least three people right? Maybe we’re going to lose three more before day 12 so they need this filler garbage

>>2828866
>>2828875
I agree more of a boring episode, however I'm hoping that means the next episode will be a banger.

Also Baha is who I have my money on winning this season.

>>2828882
Looks like we get to find out who all the stupid people were who decided to build their shelters in the fucking obvious flood zone.

>>2828925
They've already spoiled Kelsey getting flooded in the intro reel. And we know she built her shelter in a dry river bed. She's been one of the better female contestants, but that was a very poor choice on her part. I'm guessing we'll see how they goes down this coming week.

Imagine pissing out of your ass from South African Giardia and then getting raped to death by a pack of baboons while you wait for the rescue boat to get to you.

>>2828882
I hope but this season has a really lame start with the exception of the boar kill.
Shelter building is super lax because of milder weather.
Fishing is dull.
Scenery is mid.
Minimal hunting footage since ep2.
Only real concern is water.

Maybe they changed editors, but this is so far extremely uninteresting, and wasting ep4 on week 1-2 monologues doesn't make it seem like there's much to show period. I guess at least it isn't in a frozen flat bog like last season.

>>2829031
>wasting ep4 on week 1-2 monologues
We're gonna get to the end of this and discover that the winner held out for a whopping two whole weeks.

>>2829031
I still think Vancouver Island was the best spot. We need to get back to our roots

>>2829031
>Only real concern is water
Even that isn't really a concern since there are year-round rivers and lakes in this so-called desert.

>>2829040
He he. Yeah I am sorta expecting it now. And by all means it should be one of the longest seasons given how easy the setup is.
>>2829065
And now its cooling off so its rapidly falling off as a concern. But it won't get cold enough for that to be a major issue, so...

>>2829062
>Vancouver
I want Canadian rockies rather than lowlands.

>>2829081
>Rockies
Yeah that would be good also

We haven't had a good season since the Roland season, they are always such a slog that I get half way through the season and quit like some of these contestants

>>2829606
Last season and the Netflix season weren't bad

>>2829633
Isn't netflix just hosting old seasons? or is there an exclusive one no one's talked about?

>>2829606
good fucking season

>>2829834
what a chad. wonder what he's up to these days

>oh no it rained there's no dry tinder anywhere! whatever will i do?!
>doesn't put any in their pockets to dry out
amateurs
it's like they don't watch any of the past seasons

>>2829891
shamefru dispray

>>2826598
oi m8 say that to my face and not in de spirit realm see what comes about

>>2829862
He's giving deep wilderness hunting tours and getting angry at his cabins being rekt by bears and shilling knives.
https://www.youtube.com/@rolandwelker7893

>>2828402
That one was so funny
>Your brother pushed the tap button
>ah, did he?
Bro was just seething with rage.

Does anyone have a clip of that chick trying to shove an entire warthog in her backpack?

What is it with these guys going on these shows where they KNOW they will be away for a long time and then tapping out because they're missing their family and shit?
>Buhh.. Mah dad...

>>2825940
>alone Australia
Can you even build a campfire legally in this god forsaken country?

>>2826918
>I killed my first squirrel when I was 3
Why'd they let this guy on the show? Clearly mental

>>2830107
>>2830113
Should she have field dressed it on the spot and carry only what was needed? They've done that in snowy seasons but how fucked would it be in this weather?

>>2830113
>Can spend time making a fishing chair
>Can not spend time tying a couple of sticks together along with the backpack to make a basic rack to pull.

>>2830223
Uh, it's a duck watching chair thank you

>>2830215
>They've done that in snowy seasons but how fucked would it be in this weather?
Pretty sure she said it was covered in ants when she got back to camp.

>>2830186
Because despite their wilderness skills these people have never known that kind of isolation and hardship. They've never had to spend months on end with no friends or family to talk to, thinking about what a shit show their life is. They just go on fun little hunting trips where they know they can leave at any time.

>>2829871
This
>>2829835
That
>>2829891
Thus
>>2830073
That moment was an all time series highlight. I chuckled heartily.

>>2830206
It was in Tasmania actually.
Ive been watching the season this week, mostly FF through it. Horrible season.
>zero food except the Strong Woman gets the one ace fishing spot (I am guessing she wins)
>otherwise a starve-off
>miserable jungle swamp is the location
>have you apologized for raping abbos yet?
One competent guy with the worst spot almost makes it watchable.

Poor papa smurf is going to regret going on the show for the rest of his life.

Why is there even some Aussie chick.
I have to hear about abos even on Alone usa.

blumpf

how long do yall think this season will last, people aren´t prepared for africa it seems

What a fucking cry baby shit show this season has turned out to be!! I think the first episode has been the best this season and it's been all down hill from there. So far I'm rating this one of the worst seasons of all time.

>>2831186
They're already down to a handful of people before day 11. I'm not even sure it'll last a month.

>>2831251
*day 16. Still don't think they're going to make it 30.

>>2830186
They're extroverts who have never been alone for any extended period of time in their life. It's like taking a fish out of water. The fish doesn't know what water is until it can't breathe.

>>2831269
>fish out of water
good way to put it. they need to gather autistic neets for this show. We could last way longer. I volunteer myself

>i'm going to build a huge unnecessary heavy shelter, waste days and calories doing it, not spend any time fishing or hunting, and then i'll be sheltered!
>wtf why am I starving and have to tap now?

also why doesn't anyone passively fish? just leave a line in the water with some kind of shrub trigger or something at least

>>2831317
oh nm, at least that one guy is doing it

>>2831251
Yeah, this is a terrible season.
Very disappointing, because I was dreaming of a non-subarctic locale for years.
Somehow the absolute easiest location in the entire run is going to be the shortest season.
>decent fishing
>infinity large game with few restrictions
>lows are still above freezing
And everyone taps by the third week.

Haven't seen Katie much in recent EPs so she probably wins. Only two contestants I like are Luke and Kelsey. At least they're in it still.

>>2831251
I knew we'd get another one the moment I saw the new episodes title is "purpose"
>>2831618
its kinda crazy. all of the animals NEED to go to the lake or rivers for drinking all the time and its easy to see by the tracks where they go. just make a blind next to a pass, sit down before sunrise and wait. only hunting they do is going for a walk and every animal sees them from a km away.

>>2831672
Kelsey "I walk this same loop every day(leaving a clear scent trail of my movements) Where have all the warthogs gone?

It's like none of them have any actual hunting experience or understanding of animal behavior. They're selected for drama and photogenics rather than survival ability. The whole show is quickly going down hill and it's all the show runner's fault, because the premise is so damn interesting! They just don't want to pick winners, they want drama.

lame ass season

And then there were 3. 7/10 drop before day fucking 20!!! Olson is building a huge calorie waste structure, that we already know is going to collapse soon thanks to the intro reel. Kelsey is crying because she's never gone a day without eating, but it loos like she might get lucky and get another warthog. Otherwise she'd be gone any second. What a fucking crybaby she is! And then there's ausie girl that we haven't seen catch or eat anything since the first couple episodes, but seems to be thriving anyway. Did they set this season up for failure to let a girl finally win? I know they fake the ausie alone. Are they faking this one too so the ausie lady wins?

>>2832578
Didn't the aussie girl bring food as one of her items?

>>2826918
>Have these people literally never gone camping by themselves once in their lives
this is what I don't understand. It's not some normal reality show where they're plucking randos off the street. These are outdoorsy guys, how can they possibly not have spent 3 days alone innawoods before?
>>2826920
I'd say after ~3 weeks, if you know you're not gonna win, I'm okay with the "I'm happy with my journy" type people. Idk, I feel like it wouldn't take long for you to understand your situation and the environment and gauge your odds of surviving for 90+ days knowing that the weather will get worse, so if somebody decides after 2-3 weeks that they don't have a realistic shot of winning, then I don't blame them for tapping out. But even if you told me on Day 1 that I had zero chance of winning, I'd still stay for at least a couple weeks just for the experience. How often do you get to live innawoods in the Arctic or South Africa or whatever? Especially when you can push yourself to the limit because you have the sat phone if you get into too much trouble. I would do at least 2-3 weeks for free even if I knew I couldn't win.
>>2827047
>But tapping out because you felt bored or "completed your personal journey" is just pussy-tier bullshit with cat ears on top
there are people tapping for those reasons after 60+ days. Now, how long have you lasted deep in a frozen wasteland at 40 below freezing with no human contact and minimal equipment? It's one thing to call the Day 3 tapouts pussies but a lot of these people have demonstrated far better survival than you ever have so you just come off like a cringe Internet Tough Guy when you call them "pussies"

>>2832957
>How as I to know I'd be all alone just because the show is called "Alone" it's not my faaauuult
yes it is. you pussied out on national television, on a show you signed up for, after bragging about what a survival expert you were to your friends, the show runners, and the audience, and that will never not be both cringey and funny.

>>2832918
No, she did choose salt but not any food. Of the final three, the only one that brought food is Kelsey. All three brought salt.

>>2832974
hmmm curious that you didn't answer the question though:
>how long have you lasted deep in a frozen wasteland at 40 below freezing with no human contact and minimal equipment?

>>2832981
32 days between the time when I started eating the 2nd to last survivor and when I was rescued. now fuck off.

>>2832982
pretty sure the rules prevent you from straying far enough from your drop to reach other survivors so you would have been disqualified

>>2831754
>>2832143
>>2832957
Agreed in full (i was >>2826920)

This is the worst set of contestants in show history, save Olsen, who I think isn't nearly desperate/determined enough to go beyond 4-5 weeks, but would've made a nice filler contestant on another season.
Its obvious Katie wins. Also obvious Kelsey is having an absolute rager of a period.
So the new season ranking is
7>6>1>8>4>3>11>2>9>10>5>12(>aus)(frozen/spinoffs don't rank)
>4/6 worst seasons are the most recent
At least they finally managed to unseat S05 from worst slot, that's an accomplishment.
Show might be dead after this run.

>>2831754
>photogenics
honestly I really can't understand why they haven't just cast a hot young woman yet. There's gotta be a cute woman who can last at least a week or two.

>>2832578
I hope they do this location again. In the other seasons of Alone it was neat seeing contestants learn from previous seasons, now that it's a completely different environment I'm sure there are other lessons for people to learn from and improve in future seasons.

I'm tired of waiting for the next episode, which Alone spinoff is best?

They need to penalize these fuckers for leaving early for no reason and wasting everyone's time.

>>2833162
kelsey should have to show tits

>>2826532
>>2825613
I just started watching the season. Couldn't believe that they got an Indian on the show literally named Jeet, and he tapped out because he couldn't stop shitting himself. You couldn't write something so perfect.

>>2827397
>Normally when these first week tap-outs happen they justify it to themselves about "not wanting to leave their kids alone" or "my dad is sick and I should spend time with him" bullshit.
ohhh nooo, that sucks!

>>2833206
career ending injury right there
tapping out should require one round of russian roulette to show you're serious

>>2833206
One of the worst injuries in the show's history! I can't believe he survived!

Lol....I still can't believe he actually thought people would buy that fall.

>>2833206
I laughed so fuckin hard when this happened.
Cope'd so hard he became a meme.

>>2833206
>>2833207
>>2833210
>>2833225
QRD? I haven't watched all the seasons, what happened here? Did he get injured and have to tap?

>>2833251
He took a dive because he wanted to leave. Almost as funny as the guy who had a fake heart attack.

>>2833252
lol so he faked a fall? And did he claim to be injured or what?

>>2833253
Exactly

how can a bunch of people living in what is pretty much a primeval ecosystem, be so unable to find one large prey animal essentially every day they wander outside?

Okay anons, 15 mins into season 1 epp 1, what am I in for?

What a fucking horrible season.

>>2833321
>, 15 mins into season 1 epp 1, what am I in for?
Every time I watch a season of this series I end up with at least one piece of outdoor gear I don't really need, usually tools, so either a knife, saw or a hatchet.
That's how I ended up with three hatchets when I barely have use for one, at least 4 knives I have no real use for (I now say I collect knives), a Boreal 15 and a Silky Bigboy.
A couple of backpacks too.

Pray you're not like me.

>>2833331
Ooooh! You bought a Silky Bigboy? How is it? That's one peice of kit I've seen them use that seems very nice, but they're EXPENSIVE!! And as you mentioned, I also wouldn't actually have a good use for it.

>>2833331
Kek I have two backpacks, at least 5 knoives (1 is a ridiculous impractical rambo knoife), two saws, 1 hatchet, 1 axe, one of those sharpened shovels, two hammocks, and 1 tent.
Also probably have at least $1200 of outdoorsy clothing I’ve never used.

>>2833061
the season where roland won had porcupine girl coming in second and she only got pulled because her body couldn't keep her feet warm any more. she was really happy out there.

>>2833262
they do. theres tons of shots of all kind of big game looking directly into the camera from a km away and you gotta get really fucking close to land a shot with a bow.
they live in a place where theres tons of big predators trying to eat them, the landscape is open and none of the participants have experience hunting there.

>>2833359
Also they have to lug a couple of cameras around with them and talk all the time, which probably puts a bit of a crimp on the old success rate.

>>2833262
You have to be within 30 or so yards to ethically shoot at a large game animal with a recurve bow. There are also local laws about the draw weight and the animals they can legally shoot. Kelsey spent the entire last episode literally crying that she only brought a 40lb draw bow. I'm sure most of the others are in the same boat. One or two of the bigger male contestants might have gone for a 60lb draw bow. But if you don't get something big with that early, you're not going to be able to pull it back before long. Unfortunately the item lists only list "bow" as the item and don't list the draw weight. So unless a participant talks about it we don't know exactly what they brought.

>>2833061
Part of the problem this season is that none of the contestants seem to have much experience with this sort of environment. I would hope that would improve rapidly if they do additional seasons in this location as people figure out the meta.

>>2833366
What’s so hard about the environment? Fish are in the water, big game needs to drink water, there’s fowl around, they can eat ze bugs. The guy who is trying to smoke out some boar at least tried something other than walking around in loud circles whilst talking to yourself. Has anybody set up any traps or snares? Is that not allowed?
Like someone else said, figure out where the big game are drinking and sit and hide

>>2833396
NTA... Olson set up a small mouse/rat deadfall trap, but otherwise, no, no one has set any traps or snares and none of the participants chose snare wire. Not sure if trapping is legal or not in SA, I couldn't find any information about it online.

>>2833397
The other thing is the weather has been much easier. No sideways rain and wind for days on end like Vancouver island

>>2833396
>What’s so hard about the environment
I have no idea. Max temp is only about 75F, though it does get well below freezing at night. The air is apparently extremely dry so even without the heat, hydration is a constant concern. None of the contestants seem to be losing an unusual amount of weight. But this is a really unusual tap-out rate, so *something* is fucky there. Or the show runners just picked a really shitty slate of contestants, which would seem unlikely since at this point they should have a shitton of experience judging their candidates.
Actually, checking on wikipedia about earlier seasons, it looks like we're only 2-3 people ahead of schedule @ 21 days. That is easily explained by the two contestants tapping out right after eating cactus, it may be that their local experts gave bad info in the intro classes.

>>2833444
>>2833396
part of it is how unique it is compared to all other seasons. Season 1 was cold and rainy but tons of people have experience camping in areas like that, so they'd be prepared for it. Not many people have experience in the Arctic but by the time the show went there, contestants had several seasons to learn from and the Arctic was really just a more extreme version of those seasons.

Whereas now, not many people have experience camping in the South African desert and none of the previous seasons prepare them for it. I'm actually surprised the lack of wood hasn't been a bigger issue, I wonder if as time goes on it will be a problem or maybe I'm just overestimating how much wood they burn. I expected somebody to try a passive water filter like pic-related to conserve wood.

>>2833321
S01 raw amateur kino, decent contestants, good winner, zero meta, still everyone is better than current season somehow
S02 I don't remember as clearly but still decent
S03 new location (unique in series), good contestants, good winner, some real misery porn in later EPs
S04 pure misery porn, some hilarious early taps, Solid finalist circle, epic bros
S05 skip it for the love of god
S06 solid season, one of best contestants in shows run wins
S07 unbeatable pinnacle, universally considered peak show
S08 bit of a letdown, still decent
S09-s12 mostly skippable unless you're hooked, just gets gradually lamer as it goes

>>2833358
She was pulled because they didn't have $2M to hand out and likely doubted even $1M would have to get handed out.
Best female contestant by a mile. Anyone would have sucked it IP and given away a pinky toe for that prize. They stole it from her. Now she lives with goats.

>>2833363
Yeah I don't think the final 3 could pull such a bow. Even the early taps had maybe 1 competent hunter and he did le mental breakdown

>>2833522
>S01 raw amateur kino, zero meta
Season 1 is still my favorite for this reason

>>2833366
>the meta
Apparently just don't bitch out within the first month lol this season is pathetic

>>2833409
Also lows are in the 20s probably

>>2833444
>weight
Yeah were seeing <1lb per day when its usually 2 per day.
>should have experience selecting contestants
Maybe new hire. I have to imagine they swapped around production talent a few times now.
>only 2-3 ahead of schedule
Yeah but that's a difference between already in the final 3 vs having the majority still in it.

>>2833477
I seriously doubt its that hard to camp in a warm and dry area right next to a lake. Climate isn't much different from Socal and the western half of the US. These conts just suck, and almost every tap has been a mixture of weak mentality.

>>2833526
Idk, I feel like dehydration becomes a big issue in a desert. Even if they can get water, they're losing electrolytes. And boiling all that water takes time especially when wood isn't very abundant. I live in the South and I usually avoid camping in the summer at all because of the heat and when I do I bring electrolyte salts.

>>2833551
I think you’re underestimating how much wood is around. There seems to be plenty of dry dead small to medium sized bushes scattered around everywhere.

>>2833551
Wood doesn't appear to be a problem. What does unexpectedly appear to be a problem is secondary water storage, its dry enough that you have to keep drinking steadily throughout the day and night, and you can't do that effectively if you have to boil water and let it cool each time.
>>2833569
Even if it isn't already dead and dry, it's a desert. Cut some branches off of some trees and they'll be dry in a day or two.

>>2833526
>Yeah but that's a difference between already in the final 3 vs having the majority still in it.
It's also the difference between telling the contestants the cactus is inedible and telling them It's edible. If you watched the pre-show they got several weeks with local supposed-experts showing them which local flora and fauna were legal/edible/lethal. That two contestants tried eating cactus in the first week (then immediately tapping out after vomiting / shitting blood) tells me somebody lied to them about the cactus being edible, or at least left out something really important about how to prepare it.

>>2833572
Ive eaten opuntias plenty of times, no problem. What I didnt do is eating large amounts of opuntia on an empty stomach after several days fast (and adding a pound of acacia seeds)
You gotta start with small servings to get your digestion dialed in to deal with it. Like eat half a small ear 3 times a day at first instead of an entire cactus for dinner.
If they were smart, theyd used the time in base camp to eat some wild plants so they can get used to it while still having access to abundant other food.

>>2833477
There was one contestant that tried to make a coyote well so he could at least get clear water for boiling, but he did it too close to the waterline and it rose overnight and flooded his well with contaminated water. They haven't shown any other attempts at this, though since that first episode they haven't shown anybody actually pulling water, so maybe they all have coyote wells. Or maybe they're filtering it through their spare underwear, who knows.

>>2834141
>I gotta get a confy shelter, cause this is gonna be a long season
lmao, he'll think theyre pranking him when they come by to tell him he won in 5 more days

>>2834248
The tail end of last episode they showed his completed hut, and it unironically looked comfy af. But I wouldn't want to place odds on whether he spent more than a single night in it.

>>2834253
His hut does look pretty comfy. And with the only rain they're likely to see past them, it should be all he needs for a long stay. That said, if he ends up tapping, it'll because he wasted too many calories on the rock building. Otherwise, he's caught more fish and eaten more consistently than the two girls. I think it's going to come down to him and ausie chick, even though she hasn't caught anything since the first week or so. I can't imagine her veggie stews are that calorie dense, but she's not crying like Kelsey.

>>2834406
It's that time of the month for Kelsey, please understand.

alright goys, here's my theory for what has happened to this show. I bet the original purpose of this show was to dissuade goys from trying to rough it in the wilderness to escape globohomo.
>see how hard it is and you'll definitely starve goy! better to stay in your 15 minute city with niggers and pay taxes dontcha think?
However, the show backfired on them. it poured fuel on the "prepper" fire so to speak and inspired tons of people to start gathering resources for long term survival (oy vey, highly antisemitic).
Hence the focus on the feminine angle of everything now.
>muh family, muh kids, muh mental health, and so on
>tl dr
feminism destroys everything yet again

>>2834449
Pretty sus theory. Why wouldn't they have just salted the cast with a selection of flaming faggots and trannies and made sure they were the ones who won each season.

>>2834449
>goys and goys and globohomo and goys and niggers and oy vey!
you're trying too hard. Go back to /r/4chan until you learn how to fit in, newfriedn

>>2834452
too obvious
>>2834453
fuck off shill

>>2834452
See Alone Australia

>>2834456
exactly

>>2834456
Site selection is never really discussed.
We've all seen seasons (aus especially) where women" lucked" into excellent spots.
The most they've said is the producers let them pick muffins with secret numbers or something like the most obvious street hustle ever.

Still women haven't won a single season of standard US alone in its entire run, though this might finally be it. Now I'm pulling more for Olsen, but we are getting metric fuckloads of "girl power" and "apologize to the natives" this season, so it probably is the Redemption Arc for whiny white women (that was only possible because of a horrible roster).
Kelsey was fine until she started crying. Katie is every brain damaged Australian woman. Whole continent cannot be taken over by Asians and Indians soon enough.

>>2834932
I dont know man. One is crying that shes starving after eating only a whole pig for three weeks and the other is subsisting on gras seeds and herbal soups. I don't see them pulling ahead of the guy pulling out 10kg catfish regularly, unless they get very lucky with hunting.

>>2834959
>pulling out 10kg catfish regularly
and with a nice thick-walled hut to sleep in, assuming it doesn't fall down again... would be a shame if a water buffalo decided to scratch its ass on that hut.

>>2834932
To be fair, Callie from the first season in the Arctic with chad Roland put up a very good fight. She was medically polled from some frostbite on her toe. Had that not happened, she may have won. Roland was out of musk ox at that point but she had just gotten a porcupine And was still actively fishing

>>2835014
Forgot to add, I think we may be seeing the product of some new female influences behind the scenes. Perhaps female editors, producers, directors, etc. likely dei too.
The whole season just seems feminine af

>>2835014
>some frostbite
If they hadn't pulled her she would have lost all her toes on that foot by the time her next medical checkup came around. They did the right thing.

>>2835069
as long as her face was alright, it'd be worth it for a cool mil

>>2835302
If they hadn't pulled her and she lost her toes, she'd sue them for negligence and have a distressingly high chance of winning, no matter what sort of theoretically iron-clad contract they had her sign beforehand.
>I was under duress because they wouldn't let me on the show unless I signed it so it's not a binding contract plz gib millions.

>>2835406
then they wouldn't have had the money to make season 12, win-win

>>2834959
>>2835002
There was for sure some editing fuckery going on with Nathan last episode and this episode. I don't think he was building that rock house out out of necessity, but because he just wanted to pass the time like a side project.
He wasn't even that upset about the wall falling over, other people have completely crashed out and given up with similar setbacks.
His previous shelter also looked fine and comfy, way better than Kelsey's for sure and maybe on par with Katies. We barely got any shots of it to judge until episode 8 and 9.
Also he caught a catfish they said was worth 10k calories, and he only spends 300 per hour on the house, yet he somehow ran out of food the next day? And then this new episode he says he has plenty of food?
Nathan is probably not struggling at all and is just chilling but they can't show that when the other two finalists are women, where one of them is an emotional wreck half the time and just calls it quits after crying every time she does something.
>>2835015
100% this, many such cases with long running or popular shows.
>>2835302
There was also Woniya and Karie Lee. Karie should have been the first woman to win, but the Mexican came in to starve it out from the beginning. Kelsey is easily one of the worst women to make it to final 3, she's lucky it's only been 30 days and the other contestants were boomers and a retard that came in without a blanket or ferro rod.

>>2835420
> male producers and directors create amazing show
>wtf why aren’t there any women on the production crew?! Sexist!
>sheboon “director “ recently graduated from the academy of fine arts and grape drank n sheeeit
>show turns to shit
>wtf why did wypipo do this?

>>2835483
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've pirated every episode I've watched anyway

>>2835014
I mentioned her earlier, she's a top 5 contestant to me (S03 Callie was also nice). Also she never once mentioned girlpower or whatever, which puts her above 90% of female contestants.
>>2835420
Kelsey started out good, but has become an absolute lecturing earsore since E05, if she wins I think I ditch the show entirely. Its gone stale anyway, and a new location made things worse not better somehow.
>Katie has bimbo lip filling
Grim if either wins, but Nathan is now doing the waaaa I'm alone on aloneTM and the editors keep including foreshadowing of a two girl showdown. Think I'll check this thread before watching the finale to avoid the displeasure.
>>2835483
>show runs on to 12 seasons without innovation
>audience dwindles
>production talent leaves for greener pastures
>incompetent nepohires and agendapushers fill in jobs nobody else wants on a show the network would be happy to let sunset
They also ruin good shows, but usually from day 1.

Adding that if Katie gets big game I will accept her winning.
Kelsey is horrid now.
Nathan needs to man up, but I've said for a while he doesn't have the mental fortitude, clear from day 1 he's a fairweather contestant and has an actual life/career to return to, not a desperate single mother or "hunting guide" or whatever.
Contestants who go all-in on elaborate shelters do it because they need the structured progress to distract themselves. Once finished, they quickly break down. Few exceptions.
>>2835483
Indeed

>>2835503
Meant to say indeed to this.

>>2835602
No way Katie has a 60lb draw bow, which is the requirement for hunting kudu, which is what she was stalking at the end of this last episode. If she does shoot it with a 40lb draw bow, it's not a legal take. Not sure how the show runners will handle that. So I'm guessing she misses.

Episode 9 ends on day 27. Seasons range from 10-15 episodes, with 10-12 being the average. So we're only looking at at probably 2 more episodes this season. And the winner will barely have gone 30 days. The weakest showing in Alone history!!!!!

>>2835614
>Not sure how the show runners will handle that.
They just don't show it and pretend it never happened. ezpz

>>2835614
Wikipedia shows only 10 episodes for this season, and has shown the same 10 episodes ever since the first episode aired, so they aren't just listing one episode in advance.

There are existing memes for this but I felt like venting my displeasure through novel creative arts. Dall-e cannot compete with my paint skills.

if they're so desperate for a waman to win, why not do a waman only season with past competitors? I want to see mommy nicole and callie lez out and have granola hippy sex

>>2835676
sums up the episode pretty well

>>2835728
I only want this if we also get a menstrual tracker for each contestant throughout the episodes

>34 days
jfc what a terrible season. whoever was in charge of picking these contestants should be fired.

>>2836511
At least the best man won and the two obnoxious women lost.
I doubt he'd win any other season, but I really liked him. the only good selection for casting.
Maybe they cast such a terrible set of contestants to give him an easy win, he is like survivalist nobility or something...

I don't know, but this was easily the worst seasons cast otherwise. Felt like a meme cast. Results were pathetic. Location was super easy.
Will the show survive?

>>2836528
I was worried when I saw him cooking up the cactus. I was going to be pissed if he was it's 3rd victim. But then he said it tasted just like he remembered, so he'd eaten and tolerated it at least once before at some point in his life. So, maybe he knew how to prepare it more thoroughly than the other two or maybe it's just personal tolerances.

Kelsey started out as one of my favorites and ended as one of the worst. Maybe it's as others have suggested and she ended on a rag week. But I think it's more likely that she got lucky with the first kill and as things got hard, her true colors came out over her persona.

Katie did an admirable job making it almost 30 days with only one fish and plant food. If this had been any other season, she'd have been in the last 5-6 not last 3 and her tap would have come mid season.

34 fucking days!!!! The very first season lasted 56 and that was the previous shortest! This location had me thinking this was going to be a 100+ day struggle when it began. Lots of game, limited water, why did no one set up a blind near a drinking hole?!?!?! I was surprised at how much they relied on fish. Maybe their choice in what they showed in the reel footage was deceptive? I think it was just bad casting though. It seriously felt like the purposely chose weak men to try and make the women look better. If the show is going to survive, they need better cast standards and no woke agendas.

>>2836622
>why did no one set up a blind near a drinking hole
I usually assume such obvious fails are due to hunting regulations. I assumed there must be some regulation against night fishing because nobody seemed to be setting up a trot line for those catfish (catfish are nocturnal), but then whatsisname finally remembered and went out night fishing and promptly got that 50lb hoss that carried him over the finish line.

>>2836622
>Kelsey started out as one of my favorites and ended as one of the worst.
Same. Whining and lecturing the camera is not a good look.
>Katie did an admirable job
Less than a month, she was never a real contender.
Also just talked about herself endlessly, memememememe, exhausting. Lip job, useless at anything but 100 calorie foraging.

Nathan, by comparison, every time he talked it was usually about others and pure calm wisdom. Possibly my favorite all-time contestant based on personality at least.

>34 fucking days!!!!
Seriously... Median contestants dropped at day 14. Most seasons that's day 40-45. Entire cast this season was meme except Nathan and Douglas, who had cardiac issues or something.

>It seriously felt like the purposely chose weak men to try and make the women look better.
Dude, they should've picked better women then, because these were two of the worst female contestants ever, and they both only made it 1 month in the easiest location.
Callie #1 & 2, Woniya, Kielyan, Katie Lee, Carleigh... all would've won this season probably and were excellent contestants.
Casting for everyone but Nathan was abysmal. I'm glad he got a lot of screentime at least, silver lining.

Also worst season editing.
>in-studio voiceovers constantly (new to show?)
>electronic/bass music (why)
>constant cliffhanger breaks leading to nothing
>never showing actual bushcraft skill other than Nathan>
Season 10 remains my editing highpoint even with somewhat lame content.
Editor and casting director need to be fired.

>>2836634
Literally just retarded contestants. The one guy who understood how to fish won.
>we still got to laugh at Jit collectively though, big plus

>>2836636
>Less than a month, she was never a real contender.
Agreed, that's why I said she'd be a low to mid contestant on any other season. I wasn't saying her overall performance was admirable, just the lasting that long on so little food. I hated everything else about her.

>>2836634
>hunting regulations
This may be the culprit. I found picrel on an african hunting forum.

I fell asleep during the last episode, doesn't sound like I missed much. Hope there's another season and I hope its better.

I have started Aus S03, it looks decent, much better than S12 here.
I checked, and the season goes long and has a good winner and runner up. More focus on bushcraft skills for sure.
That said, a lot of very DEI casting:
>5 women, 2 strip down on camera in first day
>>Looney old white woman permaculturalist
>>ex"party girl" who burned out on drugs and escaped to #primitiveliving and loves nature "because I can cry and scream and it won't judge me"
>>deaf underweight lesbian
>>some average whoever
>>scots hapa with zero quals, nice body
Then 5 men
>token abbo, hyper extrovert classic "I can't handle being alone ahhh"
>man with one hand
>youtuber with "100,000 possums killed"
>literal who English teacher
>grizzled 63yo "bushman"

>the final 5 are the 4 white men and the cute hapa
>literally a man with one hand tied behind his back is better than all but 1 DEI hire
I will watch the rest now.

>>2837072
>literally a man with one hand tied behind his back is better than all but 1 DEI hire
grim

>>2837072
Deaf woman was good. She was failing and tried different methods to solve her problems until she finally figured out a way to passively get fish from the creek by blocking it off and having a funnel trap in the only opening. If she didn't get that infection somehow, I could see her lasting until she got flooded out.
Hapa woman is great too. Never killed an animal before, came in trying to avoid the prospect by focusing on foraging but still laid traps for animals, and when the time finally came she just straight up beat a wallaby to death. Cried for a minute, than ate its heart raw. Also ate some of the biggest live bugs in Alone I think.
Superior to Kelsey and Katie in every way.

>>2835302
>>2835069
>>2835406
Idk if somebody offered me a million dollars to have my toes cut off I would take that deal

>>2837153
>Superior to Kelsey and Katie in every way.
90% of female contestants are, personality-wise. Kelsey had 1 success, and Katie was useless beyond shelter.
>Deaf woman was good.
I don't dislike her, but she started quite thin so never had odds and wasn't serious. Still, better than K&K.

Also the location is pretty and isn't taiga, the women keep getting down to underwear/skin, and it's not taiga, so after 3 eps, I think it's way better than S12.

>>2836184
>Katie
>Day 16
>of menstrual cycle

>>2825523 (OP)
just started watching last season
>a jeet called jit
>pretty much does nothing
>shits himself
>goes home
can't make this shit up

>>2838649
>be jit, a jeet
>finally gets his own shitting desert
>truly extends himself shitting up the place
>starts missing favorite shitting street in dear old Canada
>quits
poetic. a story as old as time itself.

>>2838649
>just started watching last season
Stop and watch S03 Australia instead.
You're welcome.
You already saw the highlight (Jit shitting himself). It's all downhill from there, though Nathan is cool.

>>2838794
I dunno the whole
>All the other contestants said I was daft to build a castle in the desert, but I built it all the same just to show 'em
>It sank into the sand.
>So, I built a second one.
>That fell over into the sand.
>So I built a third one.
>That burned down, fell over, then sank into the sand.
>But the fourth one ... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in this desert.

>>2836511
Never been more disgusted with the contestants.
>hurr i got depression from a week in the bush
>hurr I fell over once
>hurr im a retard who didnt bring a firerod or fishing reel

Seriously, anyone not medically evac'd or threatened by killer wildlife should get fined 100k if they leave in under 2 weeks. There is no fucking excuse for signing up to this show and not simply sitting out 14 days as a sign of respect to everyone involved, and the Earth in general.
Noone is dying of hunger in 2 weeks. Fucking cretins wasted an interesting and quite frankly, easy location.

>>2839247
>threatened by killer wildlife
Is it too much to ask for to have the medical evaluation team show up to find nothing but bear turds and a gnawed-on femur? At least once?

Have any of you been to a survival school? Ran into a guy that went here https://www.boss-inc.com/pages/program/primitive-skills and said it was one of the most transformative things he has done.

Do you guys think this show would be more interesting if they raised the amount of items allowed to be brought to 20, but now everything you bring would count towards that, like pieces of clothing, backpack, etc.

>>2825657
From the little Cody Lundin has said, most of these survival experts are not properly vetted or are inexperienced as hell.

>>2839643
They can't really have more than one actual survival expert per season, otherwise the crew would be stuck out there for years in their huts while the surviving contestants are stockpiling resources and working their way up the technology tree towards nuclear power plants and atomic bombs.

>>2839642
That's not much of a change honestly.
I thought they needed more biomes, but clearly that was a mistake.
I would like to see scenarios with more available calories and hand pick the best bushcrafters for the contestants. Maybe give them each 10lbs of steel etc
I also am in the minority that enjoyed S04 and want to see more duos or even trios.
Basically I'm tired of solo slow starvation in poor locations and want something more productive where maybe they can build neat compounds. Just cap it at 100 days and split the winnings.

>>2839702
This would be cool though. Do that.

>>2839643
That the barefoot hippie that had to suffer through multiple seasons of Stolen Valor McTwat in an obviously staged drama series about hiking?

But yes, its obvious the producers only want maybe three actually decent contestants for the late episodes. No clue what happened this season, they only had one.