Thread 4445417

New research project from Adobe:

https://research.adobe.com/articles/indigo/indigo.html

Adobe Project Indigo is a new photo app from former Pixel camera engineers... did expect something less than awesomeness?

buy an ad

>>4445429
listen saar if I don't shill for adobe my village will starve stfu

Pretty interesting, can’t wait to see how they make it shitty and expensive.

>>4445434

I strongly believe you are missing the point bro chillax idgaf about my village

>>4445417 (OP)
skimmed it. its just manual controls and hdr. reflection removal and it being free is cool tho

>you only need your phone!
Phone photos look like shit and are fake af ai. Shant be touching it.

>>4445474
bruh it’s not “just hdr + manual”
it shoots 32 raw frames per pic and fuses them like a mini DSLR in your pocket
actual super-res zoom, not fake crop
removes reflections with ML
saves clean DNGs straight into lightroom workflow
and it’s free??
cope harder lmao

>>4445485
>fake photo generating smear machine
pass

>>4445486
Imagine calling 32-frame RAW stacking “fake” Have you read the article?
Meanwhile your phone’s HDR smears faces into plastic
Cope harder smearbro

>>4445474
huh

>>4445494
it's bullshit anon. There is simply no replacement for a larger sensor and there never will be

>>4445497
>phonies discover HDR stacking
We could already do this with real cameras. It's just that no one bothers because it smears motion/perspective alignment errors and lacks soul.

>>4445509
not only that but real cameras use it to quadruple their resolution

its just fucking useless. a tree branch moves a half inch, and the point is defeated.

basically all phone camera programs are taking a constant video feed with gyro data to align and stack images. it's how they do the majority of their noise reduction and HDR. this is not a new technology. iPhone proraws are basically this.

>>4445518
Yeah, phones stack frames with gyro data - Indigo does that too. The difference? ProRAW gives you tone-mapped, overcooked “raws.” Indigo gives you real merged DNGs with minimal processing and Lightroom-ready tone curves. It’s not McDonald’s auto-HDR — it’s actual control.

And yeah, sensor-shift stacking isn’t new. Congrats. But Indigo isn’t trying to invent it - it’s just giving you the damn tools on mobile without burying them under 10 layers of AI smoothing.

I’ve tried it and it’s great for what it is - clean raws, full manual control, and no iOS “smart magic” flattening your images.

>>4445497
>adds a hand
>replaces the pulley in the center under the face with an additional counterweight
it's hilarious how even in their press release AI is just adding and changing things and totally fabricating photographs

>>4445570
Remember when people called me crazy for saying this was in the menu for the future?

>>4445606
Remember when we called you stupid because having a mirror viewfinder doesnt prevent this, and you, being as objectively retarded as you are, started going off about fake moon landings despite no manmade optics being able to resolve lunar details that small without first being placed in space?

Amazing how much isrussia has subverted your mind to make you, at your core, ashamed and suspicious of the white man’s achievements…

>>4445417 (OP)
It's useless. It optimises the exact things that native smartphone cameras already "optimized" to the max. Phone cameras do not need more HDR and more digital sharpening and more computational noise reduction. They should have done something novel instead

>>4445570
It didnt. That third weight is part of the clock mechanism. You can see its chain in fig 1. They shot those tests hours apart in different lighting conditions. Pic 2 is brighter and less noisy to begin with, by about two hours of daylight.

There is a lie. But it’s not where you think it is, because you are a subgorilla low iq conspiracytard and the most useful idiot short of "people" like cANON.

>>4445607
>despite no manmade optics being able to resolve lunar details that small without first being placed in space?
AI will surely be able to do it :^)
>>4445609
So what you're saying is that the image is at best a scam, got it.

>>4445615
And only /pol/tards and similarly stupid people will care. The existing evidence is concrete and denialism originates in isrussia as part of their attempt to control a fifth column in the US.

>>4445616
>muh russia
This weak argument is as lame as blaming everything on the Jews tbqhwy

>>4445616
Even in Russia you have compromised institutions.
It goes above countries.
>Rogozin asked Roscosmos to provide him with “documentary evidence of the Americans’ stay on the Moon”. According to him, despite all the efforts, being the head of the agency, he did not find any evidence.
>“Do you know what answer I have received? The book “The conquest of the Moon by Astronauts” with comments by cosmonaut Leonov that they were there, because “they told him about it!” he writes.

>>4445624
Moonies are literally swallowing russian propaganda like it's putin cum in this instance, however. It's like blaming jews for heter iska loans.

>>4445633
lol, shut up Hillary

>>4445635
>the russians said america didn't land on the moon.
>stop accusing me of believing russian propaganda!
get a load of this goy

>>4445638
The only propaganda is the so-called moon landing

>>4445641
>n-no america did not beat russia white people did not land on the moon they did not
kek the cope

>>4445642
>y-yes america landed on the moon in the 60s and 70s in a module held together by duck tape
>n-no today's tech isn't able to reproduce the feat

>>4445646
>y-yes america landed on the moon in the 60s and 70s in a module held together by duck tape
Lying? Instant L
>n-no today's tech isn't able to reproduce the feat
Today's standard for moving humans through space is not robust enough to go interplanetary, and yesterday's tech was not safe enough to appease lawyers. Today's NASA budget is much smaller. And today's DEI hires are not intelligent enough to recreate the feat.

Something as simple as the computer memory used what is now lost tech so it could survive the van allen belts. The programmers they hired had to have a deep understanding of low level computing. Today, they hire javascript copypasters (from guess where).

In other words, the america of the moon landing no longer exists.

>>4445652
>Lying?
look it up, Nasa itself said it. Apollo 13 and 17, saved by fixing the module with duck tape in space.

>>4445485
>>4445497
>takes multiple frames and combines them
>not hdr
okay man if you say so. dont get me wrong it still leads to better IQ but all it is is more hdr and manual controls + AI removal

>>4445535
I have never seen a genuine person use '-' only chatgpt. im actually starting to think this thread is an ad

>>4445646
Thoughts on dinosaurs being fake?

this board always turns into pol when this retard shows up

>>4445690
They definitely existed but they show us a bunch of guesswork as if it were known truth. The look of dinosaurs is in many cases an educated guess based on a couple bones.

>not shooting film
NPC things.

Canon got so mad he flipped through proxies to report bomb all the posts disagreeing with him lol

>>4445718
My own posts got deleted and I got a temporary block for my posts allegedly being off-topic.
In the end, we all know /qa/ won. The latest GET is further proof.

>>4445719
At least you know the jannie has a hard on for you

>>4445485
>10c have been deposited into your account
faggot

>>4445417 (OP)
Looks interesting. I like the idea of "HDR in camera but you get a RAW instead of a JPEG", I think some cameras only have a JPEG at the end?
I'm not really convinced by their photos being "more natural" than what smartphones usually take.
More resolution/sharpness through multiple photos taken instead of AI hallucination is nice, though I wonder if it's actually true.
Remove reflections is cool too.
Overall pretty cool, but paying a subscription for a camera app would be a pain in the ass

>>4445679
"It's not <thing> — it’s <other thing>" is a dead giveaway of LLM slop, especially when used two times. Lots of "-" (probably replaced the "—" since the shill knows it's the mark of the beast right now but he forgot one, the "yeah [...]. The difference?" feels LLMy too

>>4446643
>I like the idea of "HDR in camera but you get a RAW instead of a JPEG", I think some cameras only have a JPEG at the end?
Canon's R10, R7, R6 and above have an option for 2-10 shot average stacking in camera that give you a RAW. My R50 only allows a 4 shot stack with a final JPEG.
If the cripplecuck brand has it in their $800 APS-C option, I'd hope to god other makers have it as well.
>>4446643
I've noticed LLMs use the Oxford comma a lot as well, which is really unfortunate because it comes in handy a lot. Hyphens have their uses as well. LLMs are trained on people that know how to write properly; most people here don't.
>inb4 comma splice

>>4446643
>HDR in camera but you get a raw
Apple proraw is literally this

>>4446727
There's a big difference between
>my phone stacks 30+ shots with a 1/1.56" sensor to get ISO 3200 equivalent shots so it doesn't look like complete and utter smeary shit
and
>my actual camera stacks a handful of shots to get ISO 25 performance with 14 stops of DR and incredibly forgivable shadow recovery
It's just another crutch that phones are forced to use to get even remotely close to the worst performance of a DSLR from 20 years ago, not a competitive breakthrough.

>>4446737
Real autists use the focus bracketing and exposure bracketing features to take 200+ photos every time they want a picture to get ISO 1 performance of zero noise and perfect exposure

>>4446743
Real autists just buy a good camera so we can get a clean shot in one single shutter flap. Then we add a film grain sim because digital noise is uggo and fucks up colors, but grain is cool.

>>4446643
They look a lot better than what smartphones usually take as long as you're looking at it on another smartphone, especially one with an HDR display. Details really don't look completely natural though.

>>4445485

>and it’s free??

>>4445485
>free
You are the product))

>>4459994
First dose is always gifted.

>>4445679
>I have never seen a genuine person use '-' only chatgpt. im actually starting to think this thread is an ad
>tfw I've always used a lot of em dashes and now people will think i'm using chatgpt when I type how I normally do.
idk if this thread is an ad or not but I just wanted to say I hate the glorified chatbots normies worship as their new god, aka """""AI"""""

>>4445679
>I have never seen a genuine person use '-' only chatgpt

>Most people are gramatically and linguistically challenged to the point that they don't know how to use a hyphen, a colon, or a semicolon
>Don't know what a comma splice is
>Can't figure out the difference between "its" and "it's"
>Complex sentences are the work of the devil
AI is trained on some amount of data that involves people that know how to write correctly, yet most people are borderline retarded and write accordingly.
So now I'm not allowed to use more advanced writing techniques because somebody might think I've generated the response kek.

>>4460335
nobody uses em dashes because they aren't on the keyboard you dunning kruger midwit retard.

the essentially poetry/prose-specific difference between an em dash and a dash is not worth the relatively convoluted input process

>>4460341
nigga, anon was talking about a normal hyphen

>>4445497
>shooting a picture with this """new""" technology takes 2 hours
no thanks

>>4460341
Ideally, -- would get replaced with em dash, but this tech is too advanced for 4chan.

>>4460341
I'm going to go out of my way to put — in my posts just to sew doubt

This is dumb as hell. Fuck the shills.
Also, if the phone can use technology X to reach the IQ produced by high end camera, then what would prevent the camera manufacturers from using X to improve their image further. I'm not talking about this shitty project in particular. I'm talking about any imaging technology.
A phone cannot contain a sensor of the size of that insid a big camera, it's just fucking physics. When will phonefags (especially the apple faggots) realize this?

Also this is my daily fuck you to adobe and anything they stand for. I hope they die and anyone who uses their service got their photos trained by AI and go out of business.

>>4460445
Japanese would rather sudoku the whole company than sell modern tech to a pleb market segment.

>>4460445
>then what would prevent the camera manufacturers from using X to improve their image further
photographers and engineers have different ideas of "image quality". all of this tech was already applied to cameras and then rejected by the market (except for astrophotography peeps and those who use cameras as high end scanners) because of the smearing of motion and fake looking images.

small sensor photography can be very sharp and have good dynamic range on paper but tends to lack actual detail and look overprocessed