Thread 4461392

One thing I have noticed in old photographers is that their staging is really great. It seems like a lost art. How can I up my staging game? Are there any books for it or is it intuitive? There's must be some kind of methods for this shit.

>>4461392 (OP)
Just study old paintings, they broke the staging games years ago

>>4461392 (OP)
It's just triangles n shiet

>>4461396
Any painter recommendations?

My nephews and nieces can't sit still for 2 seconds, even less listen to any instructions. Taking family pictures is now akin to taking pictures of dogs.

>>4461415
it's common knowledge that working with kids and animals is the hardest in photography and fimmaking.

in past elders use to spank the kids to teach them manners. but now you will be seen as a monster for getting angry at the those little demons.

>>4461421
>in past elders use to spank the kids to teach them manners. but now you will be seen as a monster for getting angry at the those little demons.
Because it turned out that children who got spanked were several orders of magnitude more likely to commit assault, rape, and "starting bar fights" and never actually learned moral behavior. They learned to hide immoral behavior out of spite for their elders.

Hence the state of society is essentially the end result of immoral behavior being hidden to spite the old generation until the old generation was too decrepit and powerless to hand out spankings.

We should have just stuck with state enforced christianity. Fear of hellfire is more powerful than fear of hand slapping.

>>4461424
It's a lack of skill really. Just accept that you suck as a director is a first step. I see photos of kids from the past when 2 seconds exposures were a norms and kids sit still in those photos, surely those photographers knew how to direct kid. I suck with my directorial skills too.

This is what I am talking about here. Staging seems like a lost art these and now candid photos are preferred because they're """authentic""". But I would say that it is a cope for the lack of directorial skills on photographer's behalf.

>>4461424
Wrong. Beating the shit out of a child (or anyone that deserves it, really) is a valuable moment in humility that not enough people get. Unless your moral compass is already well tuned, learning that being a fuckshit of a human being has consequences is a powerful initiation into how the world (should) works.
That isn't to say that systematically or routinely beating a child is good, and as you point out, leads to lifestyles that incorporate simply hiding being a piece of shit. But if you ever meet enough people, you'll come across someone that clearly should have had the shit beat out of them at some point because it's evident they act like nothing they do has consequences and/or they simply do not care if there are any.

>>4461429
>the way the world should work
Its actually an initiation into natural law, wherein there is no such thing as "just wrong" or "just right", and everything is according to who catches you, and whether or not you get caught

It just doesn't work. It barely works on animals and is positively correlated with new fear aggression. It gives humans revenge fantasies.

Retirement homes were not a societal fluke, they were a consequence.

>>4461429
when you meet that guy, just know that if he had the shit beat out of him, he would be the same, but he'd carry a gun this time

>>4461404
Any Dutch master

>>4461429
Actually, Americans love "consequences" and think about them all the time, it's just that they prefer that "consequences" happen to others.

>>4461532
No, Americans think about freedom, liberty and justice. The justice part is what includes consequences, and if people would respect freedom and liberty there wouldn't be a need for justice. You peasants wouldn't understand.