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Anonymous No.4461548 >>4461550 >>4461553 >>4461554 >>4461555 >>4461582 >>4461623 >>4461645 >>4461853 >>4463976 >>4464040
What do I need to take pictures like these?
Hello /p/, I want to take photos like picrel but have no experience in photography and no camera, I'm willing to spend up to around €1,000 but would rather cheaper as I am not wealthy, anything in the 400-500 range is a nice amount for me. What camera/specs do I need? Any lenses? I know photography terminology as I've experience with 3dcg and they seem to use the same terms there, as well as a bit of experience in just using the pro mode of my phone camera.
Anonymous No.4461550 >>4461551 >>4464085
>>4461548 (OP)
youll need a big ass tree
Anonymous No.4461551
>>4461550
I happen to know of a few, sadly Ireland doesn't have that many though.
Anonymous No.4461553
>>4461548 (OP)
You could get start shooting 4x5 film on that budget.
Anonymous No.4461554 >>4461557 >>4461658
>>4461548 (OP)
You can get something like a canon 5d mkii and a 28-70 f2.8 for under that budget and have a lot of versatility including shots like that with a wider angle.
Anonymous No.4461555 >>4461557 >>4461658
>>4461548 (OP)
looks like a very soft lens on a early 2010's dslr probably nikon or canon. the kit zoom on like a d40 should do this
Anonymous No.4461557 >>4461566 >>4461568
>>4461554
Found a second hand one for €380

>>4461555
But this seems to go for €50-€150

Why the wild difference in price? Do both give the same results for what I'm trying to achieve here?
Anonymous No.4461566 >>4461570 >>4461581 >>4461596 >>4461853
>>4461557
the photo you posted is good because of the lighting and subject. the actual image quality is very low. a better camera and lens gives you more range to take "decent" shots but in my opinion, no one gives a shit about decent shots. and a great scene that is well lit will look beautiful even on a phone let alone a proper camera. so logically you dont need to spend a lot of money on the gear. it wont get you what you want.
cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 No.4461568 >>4461570 >>4461658
>>4461557
Disregard both, early digital cameras will bring you much unneeded frustration. The main difference between them is that the Canon is full frame (bigger sensor) with resolution that is still decent today. It also records video. Get yourself a DSLR with side-swiveling screen, can't think of any bad ones save for the early Rebel SL3 run with no standard hotshoe support.
Anonymous No.4461570
>>4461566
based knower
>>4461568
cringe gearfag
Anonymous No.4461581 >>4461585 >>4461864
>>4461566
>no one cares about anything, good things dont matter, nothing matters, nothing is fun, enjoying things is wrong
We know you have clinical depression but please keep it to yourself.
Anonymous No.4461582 >>4461617
>>4461548 (OP)
iphone
literally all you need
Anonymous No.4461585
>>4461581
Projection and cope. Take your meds.
Anonymous No.4461587 >>4461596
The photo judging by the quality may have been taken with a 15 year old $30 compact digicam. More important than the gear in this particular case is an eye for composition and a basic understanding of light, you can't buy yourself into taking interesting/good photos, something many rookies seem to think, but if I were in your situation with that budget and a desire to learn photography I would have some criteria such as one which has already been touched upon which is a side swiveling screen which will make composing much easier, a full frame sensor and at least 2 control wheels to adjust aperture and shutter speed simultaneously without having to dive into menus which is the case on some older cameras making them cumbersome to operate and more likely to get put into a closet.
>Full frame
>Swivel screen
>Non-faggy manual control
>If possible IBIS
Anonymous No.4461588
get a tripod and nd filter, ez
Anonymous No.4461596
>>4461566
>>4461587
clinically depressed samefag. YOU take your meds
Anonymous No.4461598
Just get a DSLRnosaur and you're all set for soft and ever so slightly misfocused pictures.
Anonymous No.4461617
>>4461582
This, or any decent phone really
Anonymous No.4461623 >>4461643 >>4461658
>>4461548 (OP)
A camera and a place. That's fucking it.
A wider lens, like 28mm or 35mm, would probably help a lot, 50mm would do. Longer would take more work.
My recommendation:
Pentax K-5 II or K-5 IIs: $280
Pentax 18-135mm: $115
Pentax 35mm Limited: $170
Total: <$600 after taxes

The camera doesn't matter much, but Pentax has some advantages. The K-5 is nice because it gives you a lot of things you found on higher end cameras, but on what was a cheaper camera. A similarly performing camera you find from Nikon or Canon is going to have less advanced features, or be more expensive. Like a Canon at this price will be a Rebel T6 which only has one command dial, no top LCD, a worse and dimmer viewfinder, and actually a worse sensor. The Pentax also has IBIS and weather sealing. Nice.

The 18-135mm is just a wide-zoom-range kit zoom. Nothing special, but performs well enough, is cheap, and is very versatile.

The 35mm f/2.8 Limited -- this is the special lens and will be your "secret sauce" and what will blow Canon or Nikon out of the water. Despite being available for cheap (in the grand scheme of things, $170 is cheap for a lens), you get a quite sharp lens with macro capability. 35mm focal length is versatile. And its rendering is just absolutely lovely -- has decent-to-good bokeh (the bokeh quality is very good, but noticeably hexagonal, so drops a few points) but the focus fall off is very pleasant, rendering a sense of depth that's rare in EF and later Nikon F lenses. The build quality is top notch.

The downsides of this setup?

Mainly, the autofocus will suck, so autistic people will bitch at you and call you slurs for having this camera. But realistically, you're wanting to take pictures of sticks and rocks, right? The autofocus is good enough for most purposes, just don't expect to take many good pictures of football games and of birds in flight. Back of people's heads, sticks and rocks, portraits of your mom (ie. street, landscape, portraiture) it's just fine.
Anonymous No.4461643 >>4461869
>>4461623
>using autofocus for landscapes
This is the average retard who is giving advice on /p/ everyone. Top fucking KEK
Anonymous No.4461645 >>4461658
>>4461548 (OP)
what exactly about that pic do you want to mimic? you might want be more specific and post more example photos since there are a lot of different things you could mean by 'like picrel'.
most likely what you're trying to do can be achieved using: camera with wide angle lens, maybe around 15-35mm full frame equivalent, plus some good shoes.
Anonymous No.4461658 >>4461673 >>4461853
>>4461645
Still high resolution/quality shots of fairly close up (2m-10m) subjects in the understory (low light) of woods, occasionally as well of mountains and fields when camping, but the former for the most part. I'm trying to avoid being a gearfag but there seem to be a lot of options, however I think the wide lens is in fact what I'm looking for. Looking at reviews and prices for:>>4461623
>>4461568
>>4461554
>>4461555
Anonymous No.4461673 >>4461837
>>4461658
wide fields of view are pretty popular with outdoors/landscape stuff for dramatic spaces and showing grand scales. zoom lens seems like the natural choice for forest shooting where positioning can be limited. you might be able to personally test what fovs you want to go for but i think 28mm on the wide end is likely still too narrow. i'd recommend 24mm at least. if you want crisp photos in low light, you'll need stabilization. there are various ways to achieve this, whether by shooting technique or hardware. for outdoorsy stuff, dslrs are the standard due to ruggedness and value. at this point choices are all down to preference. i recommend trying as many systems as you can hands on before committing. good luck have fun
Anonymous No.4461837 >>4461844 >>4464068
>>4461673
Is this a good deal for it?
€425
Pentax K-70 with Pentax 18-55 Zoom
Pentax Strap
Manfrotto Carry Case and waterproof shooting cover
Charger with cable lead

https://www.adverts.ie/other-photography/pentax-k-70-plus-accessories/37904782?touch_off
Anonymous No.4461844 >>4461853 >>4464068 >>4464070
>>4461837
And other options I've found:
https://www.adverts.ie/digital-cameras/nikon-d7000/37487496
Nikon D7000 18-200 lens €300

https://www.adverts.ie/digital-cameras/nikon-d7100-af-s-dx-nikkor-18-105mm/37865314
Nikon D7100 18-105 €500

https://www.adverts.ie/digital-cameras/canon-70d/37815075
Canon 70D no lens €190

Any problem with buying second hand? It's coming out quite a bit cheaper.
Anonymous No.4461847 >>4461854
I can just buy new if it is problematic, as I said though I'd rather pay less and my experience with second hand non-car goods in Ireland has always been practically good as new.
cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 No.4461853 >>4461856
>>4461566
This too.
>>4461548 (OP)
>3dcg
The camera of choice in photography matters almost as little to the look as the virtual camera of choice in 3dcg, but what you put between it and the scene is relevant (available focal lengths/apertures, filters, etc). What different bodies offer is often quality of life features.
>>4461658
A bit expensive, a good camera but you'd be overpaying IMO.
>>4461844
>Any problem with buying second hand? It's coming out quite a bit cheaper.
Try to get something in good shape with a low shutter count if possible. Of those options the D7100 is arguably the best body but the Canon system offers more variety and ease of lens adaptation, as well as a swivel screen. How much is a used 80D?
Check the D5200/D5300 too.
cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 No.4461854
>>4461847
Buying new is basically throwing money away if you're careful and patient buying used I.e. if you know how to win at eBay.
Anonymous No.4461856
>>4461853
Cheapest I can find for 80D is 350 but body only.

D5200 seems like a good potential: https://www.adverts.ie/digital-cameras/nikon-d5200-dslr-camera-24-1mp-full-hd-great-condition/37407191
€260 for body + 18-55 kit lens.

They don't seem to advertise shutter count so I'd have to ask.


https://www.adverts.ie/digital-cameras/nikon-d5300/37454037
D5300 €220 (looks used)
Anonymous No.4461864
>>4461581
None of those things were even implied. Go have your therapy session somewhere else.
Anonymous No.4461869 >>4461880 >>4462036 >>4462099
>>4461643

help a noob. if youre not shooting anything that moves, always manual focus?
Anonymous No.4461880
>>4461869
Use whichever method gets you the shots you want quickest and most reliably
There's nothing virtuous about using MF when you have AF available, but sometimes it does make more sense depending on what you're doing
Anonymous No.4462036
>>4461869
For an established landscape shot, where you're likely already setting up a tripod, dialing in your CPL and GND filters, waiting for birds to fuck off or clouds to move into a more ideal position, setting focus manually is just a no brainer. With DSLRs it also avoids relying on the focus calibration. But if your AF is great (canon) then by all means who gives a fuck
Anonymous No.4462099
>>4461869
You only use manual focus instead of continuous AF if you have distractions like grass blades and branches in the foreground or background. AF likes to latch on to unwanted objects in such situations. Sometimes AF sticks to the background then you have to manually pull back the focus to reengage AF.

Using manual focus for tracking a moving subject is retarded in this day and age.
Anonymous No.4463976
>>4461548 (OP)
be bad at composition, color and light
Anonymous No.4464040
>>4461548 (OP)
>What camera/specs do I need?
Potato
Anonymous No.4464068 >>4464070
>>4461837
>>4461844
Absolutely not.

Get a D3300 (or higher)
or a D5200 (or higher)
or a D7100 (or higher)
or go full frame with a D600

All can be had for about 200 bucks, if you just pay attention.
For the APS-C cameras start with a 18-200mm or 18-105mm.
For full frame, get a 24-85mm f3.5-4.5G, or just a 50mm f1.8. The zoom is versatile, but not the sharpest/fastest (brightest, in this context). The 50mm is very sharp and fast (bright), but locks you to a 50mm focal length. Both are cheap.
Anonymous No.4464070
>>4464068
>>4461844
18-55mm is also a good option (typical kit lens) for APS-C
/\nonymous No.4464085
>>4461550
Can confirm.