Is orthodox christianity the most red pilled christianity?

Just compare their depictions of Christ to the feminine hippie type that evangelicals turned him into.

It's not redpilled, but it is pretty based.
Good: Christology, Eschatology, Reverence of Saints and Scholasticism
Bad: Soteriology, Wrong Interpretation of Romans 11 (like everyone else)

>red pilled
>christianity
lol

So based.

>>507079230 (OP)
It's the only Christianity, the rest is just heresy.

>>507079230 (OP)
Christianity is a slave religion.

"Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;" (Ephesians 6:5)

It certainly is the Truth

>>507079310
>Scholasticism
I used the wrong word here. Should say "Education". I think Scholasticism means something else.

>>507079230 (OP)
It's forbidden to deny membership to any human of any race or block him from entering any Church.

>>507080078
You need to have a jewish mother to be a jew, so yeah. I wonder why nobody ever liked them.

>>507080202
non sequitur, anyway:
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Phyletism

>>507080202
That's not what the Bible says

It is the one and only true Church, the ultimate revelation of truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbTr3HlG-5c

>>507079230 (OP)
So how is this different from other Christianity? You're still worshiping one being

>>507079342
These chriggers keep jumping to more and more obscure forms of christcuckery hoping the next one is anti semitic and based, when in reality they are all jew worshipping faggots

>ortholapers admit they're in it only for the aesthetics

>>507082107
the source of being

>>507082294
that would be a high IQ move since everything preserved by the Church is a high level right hemisphere activity

>>507079230 (OP)
I tried it out, and liked it, but ultimately Catholicism is the correct choice. There must be a universal Church, and for that to exist, all Churches must ultimately answer to a head. Christ entrusted his Church to Peter, not all the apostles.

Eastern Catholic is the best of both worlds.

>>507083759
The universal Church is the Orthodox Church

>>507079230 (OP)
Christianity is stupid, you fucking imbecile!

>>507084203
Mon cher compatriote , comment peux-tu dire cela alors que l'Eglise Catholique est à côté de toi ?

>>507079230 (OP)
Well, the Bolshevik kikes went out of their way to eradicate the church and killed millions of people because of their faith and the fact that they are slavic ( the real ubermensch)
Slavic orthodox Christianity is as redpilled one can get, whereas the western counterpart of Christianity is either under Jesuit or Masonic influences, therefore they are compromised, pozzed and zogged.

Glory to the Russian Empire!

>>507084203
How can this be if the Greek and Russian Church aren't in communion, and haven't been for nearly eight years now? Who will call a synod? Who will oversee it?

Problems like this has made me realize the authority of the Pope is paramount to the health of the Church. Without a Roman Emperor, Holy Roman Emperor, or any other authority to call Councils to settle the faith, there is only the Pope.

>>507079230 (OP)
Depictions are not what determines truth. The people that made those didn't know how Jesus looked like either.

He probably didn't have long hair, there is nothing in scripture that suggests this. There is nothing that suggests that Jesus did the vow of the Nazarenes. He merely lived in Nazareth, and scripture tells us plainly that it is a a shame for a man to have long hair. So Jesus likely had shorter hair.

Scripture is the authority for religious creed of faith, not pictures or Roman ornaments or whatever.

>>507088369
In revelation, Jesus speaks to the 7 churches bishops one by one, not to an archbishop. Also in Johns gospel he asks Peter 3 times if he sympathizes him ( Peter was saddened by the question) and ask him to herd his sheep.

/pol/ is not the place to be discussing theology or religion, as the people here - whether they are Christian, Pagan, Atheist, or anything else - typically lack even basic understandings of what they believe in, let alone what their intellectual opponents do.

The result is a culmination of insults thrown from one side to another, alongside superlatives & jargon, without discussing the profound epistemic, metaphysical & ontological implications of the varying views.

Christ is the Way, the Truth & the Life. That is all that is important. The fullness of Christ is found in the Orthodox Church. It does not matter what is "based", "cringe", "trad" or "red/bluepilled". What matters is you are following God.

>>507079585
>Christianity is a slave religion.
Whites are a slave race

>>507079310

Wrong interpretation...says the bog dwelling protestant. Lmao.

You are all heretics.

>>507079230 (OP)
Only if you discount try hard half wits like that crucible faggot. Gay Dyer taught him that presup and TAG gig and now he uses it 24/7 for everything like a sperglord - usually to onlyfan whores in 7 hour cringefest sittings.
Amerimutts make everything fake and gay. Everything.
In any case, all semitic creeds are false.

>>507082294
> hey these aesthetics are pretty cool
> ree you’re only in it for the aesthetics
Cry harder, demon

>>507088945
All abrahamists are zoroastrian heretics.

>>507083759
> why yes, I know Christ Himself didn’t say this but I think I know better than Christ that’s why my Christianity is the

I was a cradle Catholic, fell out of the church, considered myself a pagan for a few years when I was young and retarded, and have been Western Orthodox for several years now.

>>507089490
You niggers don't have a clue what your hippy jew jesus actually said.You can't even prove he existed.

>>507088945
Your interpretation of Romans 11 is embarrassing. It contradicts the Saints and clear Scripture. It's shameful.

>>507089556
>I am so smart and mature now, so I reject the Trinity
try harder

>>507089556
Nice blog post boomer.

>>507079230 (OP)
Pagan hand gesture BTW

>>507079230 (OP)
Christianity is the epitome of blue-pilled. There is nothing more bluepilled than believing that the jews need more blow jobs before your zombie shaman can come back.

No, Orthodoxy is Catholicism lite.

The Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.

Most Church denominations are terrible.

Sola scriptura

>>507089680
We don’t reject the Trinity stupid. In fact, our Trinity makes more sense than yours.

>>507089776
The argument against Sola Scriptura is pretty hard to beat. Impossible, even.

>>507089637
I don’t have to or care to prove he existed. In my heart, I know Him. Seethe harder about it libcuck.

>>507089752
> t. strawmans everyone and gets religious beliefs from comic books
What a loser lmao

>>507089680
Catholics do the cross sign with 5 fingers. The 4th and 5th is Mary and Pope

>>507079230 (OP)
Asking for the most red pilled form of Christianity is like asking for the most based and red pilled form of sissy hypnosis. That being said to answer your question, yes unless you count non Pauline forms of Christianity.

>>507089776
>Sola scriptura
Your books were all written by jews you demented prot imbecile
(((the bible))) was written by jews
>>507089817
EO have a better trinity theology than cats yes but it's still a false creed. All semite creeds are false.
>>507089856
>In my heart, I know Him
Ok feels fag
>libcuck.
I'm far right
Christfaggotry is leftism

>>507082214
Gnostics aren't too bad. However, they're too schizo to be politically effective.

jesus was a gay piece of shit and he should have been executed but they weren't following the rules regarding gays.

>>507090100
Anti-yahweh , anti jewish gnosticism of some type

>>507089951
Jesus is literally a mutilation condoning zombie sand nigger comic book character.

>>507090136
Quite literally every other “creed” is just crypto-Christianity or boils down to monism or dualism, both of which refute themselves.
> I’m a retarded faggot that doesn’t understand the problems of epistemology divorced from theology, namely, a personal relationship with the absolute (God)
I surmised that from the 90 IQ reply, anon.

>>507089951
There is a decent possibility that Stan Lee has a direct paternal line to the Jews who wrote the Bible.

>>507079230 (OP)

No, it's by far the most pozzed cuck religion out of all christian religions. It's so fundamentally close to communist ideology it managed to take roots almost inclusively in orthodox countries out of all christian ones.

It just wears a cloak of purity like Islam, to hide the rot below

>>507090338
> Jesus condones mutilation
> Source? I made it up!

>>507079565
Catholicsm and Orthodox are two lobes of the same lung

>>507090374
No, there’s not actually. This statement shows just how little you know about the authors of the Bible.

If you're picking your religion based on how "based and redpilled" it is rather than whether or not you actually believe it might as well just go for esoteric Hitlerism instead

>>507090358
>Reality not real if no zombie wizard
Also twiceborn is just a D2 spell, so any basic necromancer can cast it.

Religion threads never fail to show /pol/‘s mean 80 IQ. Like clockwork, they are always right on cue with the le christcuck literal retard takes.

>>507090509
>WE WUZ BABY DICK SUCKERS
Maybe (you) are related to mohel Saul but not me lmao.

>>507090358
>Quite literally every other “creed” is just crypto-Christianity
Asinine tripe
>boils down to monism or dualism
So what?
So does christfaggotry.
>he problems of epistemology divorced from theology
I have a masters in philosophy
Watching gay dyer presup and TAG everything 24/7 doesnt make your jew god of foreskins anymore credible
> a personal relationship with the absolute (God)
Lmao, even

>>507090464
Never read your own jewish blood cult book eh? Ever heard of Timothy? Of course not.

>>507090558
It’s not. Every other absolute folds into monism or dualism, which are false by default. Any attempt to overcome this problem of the one and the many must necessarily ape Christian theology. It’s not my fault you don’t understand this, but it’s not a matter of “reality isn’t real if x is true” it’s “reality is real because x is the true nature of reality”.

>>507090464
>> Source?
The bible nigger

>>507090686
I'll be honest I don't really know these terms but it sounds like schizo nonsense babble meant to waste my time. Also you failed to address that twiceborn is just a D2 spell and so even a D1 mage with a skull staff can cast it.

>>507090612
Don’t you realize how retarded you sound?

>>507090625
Every single non-Christian account folds into monism or dualism. Platonism? Monism. Buddhism? Monism. Islam? Dualism. Sometimes monism. There are zero exceptions. Go ahead and name one. I’ll tell you why you’re wrong. Christianity on the other hand is the only religion that believes in a tripartite nature of reality, a triune God, and more importantly, a personal absolute in a real living man-God that you can have a personal connection with and who loves you. Nobody cares about your master’s in philosophy by the way. These credentials mean jack fuck all. And if you think this is an argument of mere presupposition you’re even dumber than I thought. That makes you hypocritical as well considering every single philosophy contains presuppositions without exception.

>>507090631
Cite it.

>>507090808
> I’ll be honest. I don’t know what I’m talking about so I have no idea if I’m right or wrong.
Yeah, we gathered that.

>>507090777
Go ahead and cite the verse.

>>507090901
Better to be a retard like me instead of a gay retard like you.

>>507090686
>which are false by default.
Gay dyer fag in the house
Protip - christfaggotry boils down to monism or dualism depending on the flavour retard
>must necessarily ape Christian theology.
Plato et al were discussing this 300 yrs prior to your jew cult leader
Platonism explains the ontology without recourse to your schizo jewish yahwehist drivel

>>507082214
>more and more obscure
woah, so obscure...
anglosphere is a whole other world lol

>>507091080
If only you knew just how gay and retarded you are anon

>>507090982
>Still not addressing that twiceborn is a super low level spell

>>507091123
I know that at least I don't suck jew dick like you.

>>507090936
Acts 16:1-3 why? explained in
1 Corinthians 9:20, “To the Jews I became a Jew in order to win the Jews.”

Seriously read your own jew subcult handbook, don't you find it off they attached literally the entire Torah to the "good" part?

>>507091119
>larping as a Jewish priest
Hella gay

>>507091085
So what's this monism dualism schizo babble about? Is it just a way for the caramites of the jews to fellate themselves?

>>507091085
Are you implying they aren’t false by default? Epistemology falls short in both instances. This is objectively a fact. Christianity overcomes the problem with a triune God that you have a personal relationship with, as I just explained. This is not Buddhism where you believe in an impersonal absolute but somehow can draw true inferences on no basis at all. Platonism has the same problem. Plato makes quasi-religious claims, but question is how he can know those claims or his method of knowing them are true? And of course he can’t. Everyone who engaged with philosophy knew this conveniently until very recently when the liberals and Jews got their hands on education and media. Looks like your philosophy degree failed you.

>>507089643
They have the direct translation from Hebrew. They practise the original church traditions that were started by Peter and Paul.

Then we have you. Someone that has trabslation after translation after translation that was born INTO a heretical church 2000 years after the fact soing a scratch and sniff routine of what the church fathers meant (in your own words). How many books does your bible even have?

Protestants really are scum.

#1 Eastern Orthodox.
Close #2 Roman Catholics w/ Trad Latin Mass.

...everything else is shite.

>>507091216
This is your call to mutilate yourself?

I have to run. For those who aren’t lazy and retarded:
> pic related

>>507090936
>>507091216
Luke 2:21
>On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

>>507090901
>tripartite nature of reality
Sounds exceptionally stupid.

>>507091336
You are a moron. This isnt a translation issue. It's a theological consistency issue. If you say that Israel is the Church and no one but the Church, then you change that just because you're in Romans 11, you're theologically inconsistent, which means you're wrong.

>>507091347
This is proof that Christianity is a slave mutilation condoning sub cult to jews. All sand nigger tomes are garbage. No one with the ability to read that actually read the bible could come to any other conclusion.

>>507091407
>Long list of jewish patriarchs
Lol Pantera wasn't jewish.

>>507090901
>Every single non-Christian account folds into monism or dualism.
Christianity does too retardo
>Islam? Dualism. Sometimes monism.
Just like christfaggotry then. All 3 yahwehist creeds are asinine and your crypto neoplatonic trinity doest exclude you from the problem
>>507091002
Picrel
>>507091313
>Is it just a way for the caramites of the jews to fellate themselves?
Yes
>>507091319
>Christianity overcomes the problem with a triune God
Kek. It's adorable how you think so

>>507079310
>Romans 11
and your interpetation is?
>>507079310
>Soteriology,
how is that bad?

>>507091492
A man of culture

>>507091390
Looks gay.

>>507083759
>Christ entrusted the Keys to the Kingdom to Peter
ftfy
funny you mention it, Peter's See is Antioch, not Rome, which was Paul's See. both were executed there so it doesn't logically follow that Peter abandoned Antioch ofc

>>507091336
idolaters the lot of them. all organized attempts have become corrupted - the local ekklesia was always the way.

top down rule by men is never going to work. the apostles left us with their work, and when you read it, they are present. that is all you ever need. the holy spirit will guide you to all truth (and not the bastardized trinity version, the holy spirit that is actually in the scriptures)

>>507091543
I remember being seven and hearing the story of Jesus's birth and my first thought was: "I guess a woman will say anything to avoid being stoned." I wonder how universal my experience is.

>>507091274
>Jewish priest
pics or it didn't happen
rabbis are not priests

>>507091715
You do understand that the Bible is mostly written by the Catholic Church dude? Sola scriptural never made sense.

>>507079230 (OP)
They worship images worse than the Roman Catholics, I would rather see Mary the virgin than the false depictions of Jesus.

>>507091467
>If you say that Israel is the Church and no one but the Church, then you change that just because you're in Romans 11, you're theologically inconsistent,
Uhm, NO
Israel is the Church
Israel is replaced by a remanant and a graft
The remanant of israel plus the graft = THE CHURCH!
Who are these remanat + graft? Those who believe in Christ irrespective of ethnicity. Rest? NO LONGER Israel!
Easy peasy lemmon squeezy!

>>507079230 (OP)
Eastern european ones are pretty based. The spinoffs not so based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81A31hlgEA&list=RDo81A31hlgEA

>>507091539
>Romans 11
Romans 11:9-10 contextualizes the subject. It is Psalm 69. It is reasonable to see this passage being addressed to King Saul or Adonijah. Now let's plug King Saul into Romans 11. King Saul is a natural branch that has been cut off. But Saul is part of Israel no matter what, and all Israel will be saved (1 Samuel 28:19). And then we bring it full circle: does King Saul represent a Satanic Talmudist, or a wayward Christian? Romans 11 is not about Talmudists at all.
>Soteriology
I have read all the Christians who died before 200 A.D. Only a handful are explicitly against Faith Alone, like Justin Martyr. God will never leave or forsake a Christian, and God cannot lie.
>Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
>Hebrews 13:5 KJVAAE

>>507092065
The Eastern Orthodox position is that Ethnic Jews will repent and fulfill Romans 11 in the future.

>>507091715
>all organized attempts have become corrupted
oh yes smarty pants, im sure your interpretation of what the scriptures say is much better than thousands of years of church traditions that were handed down through apostolic succession

>>507092133
James 2:26 KJV
“For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”
Crystal clear!
You have faith? Congrats! SHOW IT!
No? Then you're a liar! Faith is proven through deeds!
Again, easy peasy lemon squeezy!
>Romans
all Israel will be saved
And who is this Israel NOW? The remanat + the graft!
Yes all Israel will be saved except israel NOW doesn't mean what you think it means.
It is pretty clear ! I don't understand why you cling to some logical fallacy / insist upon starting from a wrong premise!
>Saul is a natural branch that has been cut off.
So betty bye bye. He is no longer part of Israel hence no salvation for him.
All Israel will still be saved. Saul no longer belongs to Israel.
I don't see the problem.

>>507092385
You have AGP.

>>507092213
>The Eastern Orthodox position is that Ethnic Jews will repent and fulfill Romans 11 in the future.
False!
The remanant is those that believe/d in Jesus Christ and DO/DID HIS DEEDS!
That means those jews that repent accept Jesus Christ as God Embodied and do his deeds / stop doing satanic kike shit - are back online and become again part of Israel alongside the rest of the Christians with no difference whatsoever between them. Those that already dead / have been cutoff from israel before the Coming of Christ can no longer return.
Again, simple!

>>507092773
>James as a response to Hebrews 13:5
Will God leave or forsake a Christian? Yes or No? I don't even need to argue James if you lose at Hebrews.
>Romans 11
You are not understanding what I'm saying. This passage is used for a future event concerning "Ethnic Jews" (they are enemies for your sake). Wayward Christians are enemies for your sake (as Peter, Demas, Titus, and Mark were to Paul). Kikes are God's enemies.
>Saul is in Hell
1 Samuel 28:19
Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and tomorrow shalt THOU AND THY SONS BE WITH ME: the Lord also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.

>>507093091
Romans 11 is interpreted by Jay Dyer as a future fulfillment of Ethnic Jews repenting. He represents a large swath of EO. I like him, but I obviously hate this error.

>>507093091
this
the remnant of the jews to be saved were all converted by the end of Acts

>>507079230 (OP)
>worshipping a Jew is le red bull!
Fuck off Jew worshipper
>>507079310
Based on what?

>>507093263
>Hebrews 13:5 I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Where does this say faith alone suffices?
>James as a response to Hebrews 13:5
And it's pretty clear - No deeds? No prize
That's what even God Himself preached thourgh the Good Samaritan Parable - that without the jewish faith helped the jew , proud and virtual signaling jews not unlike protestants migh I add, while claiming to be faithful , failed to prove that faith : Love your neighbor as yourself. “And who is my neighbor?” Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
Again super cristal clear!
>You are not understanding what I'm saying
I am sorry but IT IS YOU who don't understand what I am saying!
>>507093263
>future event concerning "Ethnic Jews" (they are enemies for your sake).
UHm NO! how did you come to this ahem "wayward" conclusion?
Jews existed in Jesus earthly time - some believed - a few, rest killed Him and uttered the infamous curse upon their own - -his blood be upon our heads and the heads of our children. Which it was and is!
>Wayward Christians are enemies for your sake
yes they are called heretic
>(as Peter, Demas, Titus, and Mark were to Paul).
WRONG. They were not heretics, just misguided and the Holly Spirit, blessed be His Name, corrected them through Paul just like God said and YOU quoted :I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee."
>Kikes are God's enemies.
Yes! And...?
>Saul is in Hell
You said he was cutoff. Cutoff = no longer Israel.>>507093263
>and tomorrow shalt THOU AND THY SONS BE WITH ME
That means dead and facing Final Judgement
If you what you claim is true and Saul was indeed "cutoff" then woe to him. If your claim is false and he continued to be part of Israel i.e. not an ethnicity but a Convenant with the One True God then all is cool - Saul gets death as punishment for whatever deeds he commited to irrate God and gets Heaven for the his good deeds. No contradiction whatsoever.

>>507079230 (OP)
>russian "orthodox church"
>created by Stalin in 1943
>a subversive NKVD/KGB/FSB branch, now run by colonel "Mikhailov"

kill yourself, pidor

>>507094638
If God will never leave or forsake a Christian, then a Christian who falls away will not be left or forsaken. It is that simple. Once saved always saved is proven again by Hebrews 13:5.
>King Saul is in hell
You are out on a limb. I have never heard someone say that King Saul is 100% in hell. Roman Catholics say "I don't know" and Protestants say King Saul is in heaven. He is the Type for a wayward Christian. He is not a Type for someone who never believed.

>>507093263
>Will God leave or forsake a Christian?
If he turns away from Him through either deeds faith or both YES.
No leaving and forsaking doesn't mean Salvation but correction / guidance when and where possible - you deny deeds and argue for faith you get nasty stuff like disease and other bad things kinda like the jews did in the desert. Did you repent? NO give him some more! Still No repentenance? OK leave him! FORGET abaout him!
I think your misunderstanding of the Scripture has something to do with your germanic language and its propensity for logical fallacies that jews very shrewdly and viciously exploited.
>if you lose at Hebrews.
I didn't know it was a battle. Is that what you do to (true) Christians? Battle them?! Just like the devil. Assuming we orthodox, showing our true flag not some meme one, are in the wrong, is this how you try to correct/guide us back ? Well in this case keep your logical fallacies and your word twisting for yoursef.
Situation is pretty clear here!
Thank you for strenghtening my belief in the Holy Orthodox Church and averting me towards your ill conceieved and pride infested heretical views and arguments!

>>507093360
>is interpreted by Jay Dyer
there's your problem right there.

>>507095077
>Hebrews 13:5
you don't just read the bible verse by verse lol
this reading is a whole paragraph Hebrews 13:1-6
the verse-numbering is a much later innovation

christianity will never be redpilled

you literally worship jewish mythology and a rabbi

>>507094841
>>created by Stalin in 1943
The history of the ROC begins with the Christianization of Kievan Rus', which commenced in 988 with the baptism of Vladimir the Great and his subjects by the clergy of the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople.
Not even stalin managed to destoy it even if he tried multiple times including in 1943

>>507079230 (OP)
go to an IRL church, don't engage with the faggots on here

>>507095077
>If God will never leave or forsake a Christian, then a Christian who falls away will not be left or forsaken. It is that simple.
Yes ! UnForsaken doesn't mean SAVED! it means that God tries to bring the Christian back through whatever means - see my second answer to your previous post!
>Once saved always saved is proven again by Hebrews 13:5.
NO! That's not what it says. Plus Salvation comes after Final judgement not on Earth by doing deeds letalone mere believing
>>507095077
>>King Saul is in hell
>You are out on a limb
Well you said not I. i don't know where he is but IF and ONLY IF aka conditional he was as YOU SAY "cutoff" from israel then he most likely is in hell. BASED ON YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ALONE!

>>507091840
>My Jewish priest isn't a priest
>Because I used a different word!
Nope. Jewish priests. Your religion is Jewish, you wish you were a jew, you worship a dead jew

>>507095403
>>507095469
You: YES, God will forsake you if x or y.
1 Samuel 1:22. For the Lord will not forsake his people for his great name's sake: because it hath pleased the Lord to make you his people.
>>507095440
Jay Dyer presents the only interpretation of Romans 11 that Orthodoxy currently holds. You are not even arguing the right section of the passage. Who is blind Israel? I say blind Israel are the wayward Christians. You say they are Kikes. That is wrong.

>>507095826
>You said King Saul is in hell
I have argued repeatedly that King Saul is in heaven. You are either arguing in bad faith or you failed to follow one of the most explicit parts of my argument. How do you expect me to believe you read the rest of my argument correct

Catholics and Eastern Orthodox aren't biblical and are filled with pederasts who love all the opulence and pageantry. It's very concerning that so many young men are seemingly drawn to the EO church. I assume it's because Catholicism is clearly gay and unbiblical, and most people think of Israel loving Southern Baptists, tranny Methodists and Episcopalians, insane babbling charismatics/Pentecostals, or obviously grifting megachurch type pastors, and are simply unaware there are better options.

It's the Reformers for me. Orthodox Presbyterian Churches (OPC) and Heritage Reformed Congregations (HRC) are about the only two types churches I'd attend in America. The Puritans were based. Reformed Baptists are pretty based, too.

>>507095883
>St John Chrysostom presents the only interpretation of Romans 11 that Orthodoxy currently holds
ftfy, e-celebs have nothing to do with Orthodox Tradition
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/210219.htm
>half a verse from 1 Samuel 1:20-2:19
remember what we said about verses in context?
https://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/septuagint/chapter.asp?book=9

>>507096407
I willnsay that I suspect many of these supposed Eastern Orthodox kids in the West are just LARPing and haven't actually attended an EO church in person, because spending one minute with a bunch of weird ass, smelly eastern bloc freaks would turn them off the idea.

Also, read the 2nd commandment and decide for yourself if their "icons" are biblical.

>>507095833
To be fair he's right. Christian priests larp as jewish priests called Cohens. Rabbi means teacher and the reason why the jews don't have cohens anymore is that the temple got destroyed.

Wtf is this all christcuckery bs.

>>507096600
Fax

Hahahahahahahh

This thread is best example why West should die. You are all such free thinkers and free from Christcuckery and yet that does not help you? Hahahahhahahha

Suffer retards you deserve it.

>>507096730

>1 Peter 2:9
New International Version
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

Wrong. You're a bunch of jew worshipping golems

>>507096576
Don't obfuscate Jay Dyer an entire book by Chrysostom. Dyer is not some e-celeb, he is an Orthodox Apologist and accurately represents the Romans 11 interpretation held by Orthodoxy. Simply put: Who is "blind Israel"? You will say Kikes, which is wrong. It's wrong because it's not consistent in the overarching hermeneutic. My interpretation is.
>God will forsake His people even when the Scripture says multiple times He will not forsake His people
Hebrews 13:5 is enough.

>>507097085
Dude you have no life what the fuck you even talk about?
Did you wake up thinking about this shit?

>>507096869
>Wtf is this all christcuckery bs.
>>507096905
>Fax
>>507097196
>Dude you have no life

>>507097275
>You use a meme flag
>Kill yourself christcuck
>Hitler hated christcucks
>Fucking retard

>>507097085
>Orthodox Apologist
there is no such office in the Orthodox Church
>hebrews 13.5b and 1 Samuel 1.22c (without context)
bla bla, picrel

>>507097275
I bet you are a Jew or pajeet.
Only they use meme flags

>>507096600
As for the Second Commandment, I would look into the iconoclast controversy. They lost.
You think the EO kids will have more fun attending pop concerts or getting anti-racism lectures at the local Prot church? The Russians and Greeks are smellier "freaks" compared to what you get in a Catholic church?
You sound like one of these Calvinists who are trying to really embrace the "American-ness" of the Puritans. Ignoring that the descendants of the Puritans all became unitarian cucks within like 2 generations.
The converts at my church are 1/2 high school and college age dudes and 1/2 tradprot/tradcath families.

>>507097383
You are Seething.

>>507097440
James had a beef with Paul so considering Paul is the founder nobody should take James seriously

>>507097503
the more you pilpul the more antichristians you make, if that's your purpose, thanks

>>507097539
>James had a beef with Paul
wat
mixing up James with Peter in Galations methinks

>>507097440
apologist /noun/
a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial

What a non sequitur. He IS an Orthodox Apologist.

>>507097503
Oh yea you also believe national socialism is socialism right?

>>507097655
You are a kike.

>>507097667
No he had a beef with Paul. Paul wanted to convert non jews and James didn't want. James's religion was still a Jewish sect

>>507097765
*yawn*

>>507097697
National Socialism was a process. It was not fully Socialist at the time, but that was the end goal.

>>507085405
L'Église Une, Sainte, Catholique et Apostolique est bien l'Église Orthodoxe. Je ne dénigre pas nos frères de Rome mais personnellement j'ai la conviction que l'Orthodoxie est bien l'Église fondée par le Christ
>>507088369
The issue between Constantinople and Moscow is ecclesiastical/political and does not even affect the laity. You seem to be operating FROM the assumption that the Church needs to be hierarchically unified under a single leader to function, which is not the case as shown by the structure of the Orthodox autocephalous churches.

>>507097808
Dude uses a meme flag and has the audacity to call others Jews lol. Show where you from pussy

>>507088755
>I am so mature
>btw chirstcuckery is the answer

>>507097827
Do you even know what socialism even is or what it means?

>>507097947
I thought you were someone else, I don't discuss Hitler with kikes.

>>507097971
Where you from pussy? I am closer to where your faggot lived than you. Stupid pajeet

>>507097971
Hiding before a meme flag like a pussy.

>>507097765
you are obviously a mexican. that's why you hide behind a memeflag llike all the other 220kg mexcrement groypers

>>507097687
you seem to have no idea what goes on in the Orthodox Church, so to clear things up there are offices like:
>deacon
>priest
>bishop
which all require tonsure
besides these, who really don't get much say on theological matters, we rely on the Saints and their own writings for biblical interpretation
Jay Dyer is none of the above

>>507098023
Scapegoating Indians so no one talks about JIDF anymore. I see you

>>507098097
My flag isn't Israel retard we have no Jews here. I can't say the same about you. Even Nazi Germany had jews

gotta love the church of /pol/

>>507098079
Kek fax

>>507098088
So when Jay Dyer repeatedly has Orthodox Priests as co-hosts, why do they sign off on the Romans 11 interpretation? This isnt even worth arguing about, you are simply wrong. Romans 11 is interpreted by Orthodoxy exactly as Jay Dyer explains.

>>507097774
>James didn't want
>[source needed]
Acts 15 and 21 agrees with me

>>507098238
Why the fuck is this guy so obsessed with Romans 11 passage. How does that change your life being so obsessed about one stupid passage from a book written by kikes.

>>507097765
>muh kike
Like clockwork

>>507098238
>Orthodox Priests as co-hosts
and Arius had ALL the bishops of Alexandria supporting his heresy
priests like i mentioned don't get much say on theological matters, the saints say it all cleary enough and they all agree (whereas many priests do not agree, see contraception)

>>507095981
>>You said King Saul is in hell
I did no such thing
It is YOU who said that. Want me to cap screen your post?
This a very jewish tactics - accusing others of what you say and do.
>You are either arguing in bad faith or you failed to follow one of the most explicit parts of my argument
It would appear it is you who'se arguing in bad faith. there was nothing explicit about your argument . You are merely pasting together two things that are apparently contradictory when in fact they're not - a sophism.
>How do you expect me to believe you read the rest of my argument correct
I read it as it is. I am working with your material. it's not my fault you are not explicit enough.
Nowhere in your writting did you state saul is in heaven. You just put forward Samuel and CLAIMED Saul has been cutoff. Based on that by means of logic I gave you the logical answer - if x aka Saul cutoff then y aka Saul in Hell. If not x then not y!
>>507095883
>Jay Dyer presents the only interpretation of Romans 11 that Orthodoxy currently holds.
Unlikely. He is neither orthodox nor a Holy Father of the Church. How about you read Saint John Chrysostom yourself and leave that dyer guy alone?
>You: YES, God will forsake you if x or y.
Well Doooh!
>1 Samuel 1:22. For the Lord will not forsake his people for his great name's sake: because it hath pleased the Lord to make you his people.
now imagine if you hath displeased Him. or if you simply refused to be made His people. Free will is a thing you know and even God choses to respect it! so yeah if jews and christians in name only decide to do jewish things then they are no longer His people even if He made them . God made them His people but NOT permanently!

>>507097915

>>507098603
Tell me specifically or generally what sect of Orthodoxy you are in and I'll see if I can prove it real quick from one of your own.

>>507098309
Lol you are brainwashed. So firstly James wanted all converts to his Jewish sect to be circumcised and be Jewish according to acts 15 and 21. They clearly had a beef but the Bible won't mention it because it is super biased and won't show divisions. They most likely hated eachother and the Bible just said that James allowed Paul to convert non jews without any conflict but he didn't want non jews.
Just like the battle against Moabites where they said they killed all the Moabites then a few passages later they come back in Kings

>>507098632

>>507098605
Do you understand how Green Text works? "You said King Saul is in hell" is a quote by you. This is annoying. You need to lurk.

>>507079230 (OP)
no
russian orthodoxy is more corrupt than catholicism and the southern baptist convention combined lol

>>507098842
This anon gets it

>>507098605
YOU: You said King Saul is in hell.
ME: I have argued repeatedly that King Saul is in heaven. You are either arguing in bad faith or you failed to follow one of the most explicit parts of my argument. How do you expect me to believe you read the rest of my argument correct

>>507079230 (OP)
Christcuckoldry and "being redpilled" are mutually exclusive.

But Orthodox christcuckoldry is slightly less cucked than Cathocucks.

Its still a slave religion/deathcult, though. And the degenerative and impoverished state of the slavs is perfect proof of this.

>>507097476
>As for the Second Commandment, I would look into the iconoclast controversy. They lost.
kekaroo

>>507090338
Based and truth-pilled.

>>507098653
>what sect of Orthodoxy
there are no sects in Orthodoxy
i commune in the Greek Orthodox Church under the jurisdiction of a Canonical Greek Orthodox Metropolitan

>>507089776
Anathema

>>507098696
>firstly James wanted all converts to his Jewish sect to be circumcised
okay so you clearly never read it

>>507089836
Its very simple: do you bave ANY theological education? A degree in theology takes 4 years,if you had a degree I might just believe YOUR interpretation of the bible. Until then I wont. Pretty disgusting of you to deny so many other books by the way

Christcucks just want rabbi cock at this point. Especially Catholics and Orthodox because they allow some nigga priest to control all their life not like you can read the Bible for yourself you need some old ass nigga to tell you he knows better than you because fuck you

>>507098995
OK. Is it over? Do you admit I'm right? Jay Dyer presents your position. I say it's wrong.

>>507099064
You didn't. Read again dumbass.
Also why you have no answer about the Moabites in the Kings which apparently were all killed then they somehow resurrected a few passages later

>>507099115
Lol. Hebrews 13:5. God will never leave or forsake a Christian.

>>507099230
>Do you admit I'm right?
wtf is this AI shit?
i provided the link to St John Chrysostom
the website has many many other Church Fathers as well >>507096576
no jay dyer and no ai trumps the Church Fathers

>>507079230 (OP)
the most 'red pilled' christianity is, by definition, the most truthful kind, and the most truthful kind is going to be hermetic christianity.
read the works of lodovico lazzarelli for the real truth, anyone that heads down this path will understand.
Ἀναγεννήθητι ἐν Νῷ

>>507099462
I know it's hard to accept. It shocked me too. This interpretation essentially makes you a Dispensationalist. It's wrong, but it is the Greek Orthodox position.

>>507080647
>Relevaron of truth
>Book written by jewish sand niggers
>More than 2000 years old
>Same fucking book different drug addict schizo interpretations.
>Following the teachings from people who had 80 IQ at Best.
>Made by Jews
If Christianity Is the "lead" religion no wonder the jews have won.

>>507079230 (OP)
If you're christian, you can't racist nor fascist.

>>507082294
They just like it cus the branding makes them think it's original Christianity not adopted 100s of years later from a batch of early churches

>>507099676
>tf
>tp
don't you niggas pray to the grim reaper so you can traffic your drugs safely?

>>507099269
>broken ai script
probably a waste of time but here it is
>certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question...
>21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come...As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.
trying to get me b& for off-topic?

>>507099667
Why it shocked you. It doesn't fucking matter. Why you need some old ass nigga priest tell you everything and control your life and tell you he knows better than you because fuck you. That is why Protestantism is superior anyone can think for himself no wonder why Protestant countries are richer because being a free thinker is a value not a danger like in Catholicism and Orthodoxy

>>507099890
>certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved

Are you retarded? Can you even read?

>>507100070
>Are you retarded? Can you even read?
i will ask you the same
where is James here?

>>507099882
Nah, only narcs do that because they know they Will sooner or later die.

>>507099318
Cleopa ilie says sectarians know the bible better than everyone else but csnt interpret it right. Lmfao. You dont have the holy spirit. Youre not a priest and being a christian is something you have to prove for yourself to yourself and ro others.

Read: -Pravila-1000 pages
-philokalia -600 pages
-liturgy book-400 pages
-Pasalter-240 pages
-lives of the saints-8000 pages
-patristic literature-800 pages
-Dogmatica-1000 pages

And the bible is also 1300 pages and not 400 you heretic faggot. Your whole family hasnt read as many pages as these books have together if you count them all,all your cousins,forefathers etc. so stfu

And this is just the obligatory literature

>>507099890
Who you think were those "men". You are absolutely retarded

>>507099943
How scared are you? My God is a consuming fire.

>>507100218
OK, interpret this:
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Hebrews 13:5 KJVAAE

>>507079230 (OP)
Orthodox here. It's very comfy. Last time I was in a church was monday. What I really appreciate is knowing that we kept the original stuff as it was written down by the apostles (originals were Greek) so we can't get Jewed in the (((translations)))

>>507079230 (OP)
Wasn't worshiping idols considered heresy?
And don't give me it's symbolic bullcrap.
People claim there are miracle making painting, and you can grift christkike by putting some water on them and claim they're crying, it has been done already many times.

>>507100224
>Who you think were those "men"
Paul says in Galations
>But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

>>507100480
So??

>>507100423
Can I ask you a question about a translation

>>507100465
you can't fake myrrh-streaming, and it's better than kissing pieces of black stone some ancient people shat on

>>507089680
Who rejects the trinity retard? I spit on your heresy.
It is right there in the symbol of our faith

1. Πιστεύω εἰς ἕνα Θεόν, Πατέρα, Παντοκράτορα, ποιητὴν οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς, ὁρατῶν τε πάντων καὶ ἀοράτων.

2. Καὶ εἰς ἕνα Κύριον Ἰησοῦν Χριστόν, τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ, τὸν ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς γεννηθέντα πρὸ πάντων τῶν αἰώνων· φῶς ἐκ φωτός, Θεὸν ἀληθινὸνἐκ Θεοῦ ἀληθινοῦ, γεννηθέντα οὐ ποιηθέντα, ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρί, δι' οὗ τὰ πάντα ἐγένετο.

3. Τὸν δι' ἡμᾶς τοὺς ἀνθρώπους καὶ διὰ τὴν ἡμετέραν σωτηρίαν κατελθόντα ἐκ τῶν οὐρανῶν καὶ σαρκωθέντα ἐκ Πνεύματος Ἁγίου καὶ Μαρίας τῆς Παρθένου καὶ ἐνανθρωπήσαντα.

4. Σταυρωθέντα τε ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἐπὶ Ποντίου Πιλάτου, καὶ παθόντα καὶ ταφέντα.

5. Καὶ ἀναστάντα τῇ τρίτῃ ἡμέρα κατὰ τὰς Γραφάς.

6. Καὶ ἀνελθόντα εἰς τοὺς οὐρανοὺς καὶ καθεζόμενον ἐκ δεξιῶν τοῦ Πατρός.

7. Καὶ πάλιν ἐρχόμενον μετὰ δόξης κρῖναι ζῶντας καὶ νεκρούς, οὗ τῆς βασιλείας οὐκ ἔσται τέλος.

8. Καὶ εἰς τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ Ἅγιον, τὸ κύριον, τὸ ζωοποιόν, τὸ ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐκπορευόμενον, τὸ σὺν Πατρὶ καὶ Υἱῷ συμπροσκυνούμενον καὶ συνδοξαζόμενον, τὸ λαλῆσαν διὰ τῶν προφητῶν.

>>507100593
>So??
so you clearly mixed up james with peter

>>507100336
Im not a priest. Im a dentist. How about I ask you how to do restauratory odontotherapy to a naughty kid with cranial abnomalies that make it difficult for him to open his mouth enough?

>>507100782
Then why you talk if you have no idea about it stfu

>>507100673
>you can't fake myrrh-streaming
Yes you can, it's so easy anyone can do it.
They recently caught a monastery in my country that was doing it, those faggots made millions by faking miracles.

>>507100715
I thought they were all part of same sect and church. The apostles I mean

>>507100782
I'm a priest. And a king. God says He will not leave or forsake us. My priestly, kingly explanation: God will not leave or forsake us. Youre welcome!

>>507100933
mhmm, rando on /pol/ said it, must be true.

>>507079230 (OP)
>On the surface, then, it would seem that, of course, Christians are against racism—we should never think someone is inferior because of race. But theosis calls us to a deeper level. The struggle to learn how to love is one that includes rooting out racism in our own hearts and in the very structures that constitute the political, cultural, and economic matrix within which we locate ourselves. The first requires incessant self-reflection; the second requires action.
https://publicorthodoxy.org/2018/02/12/racism-orthodox-perspective/

Cuckold Church that condemns "racism" and is mostly pro-feminism as well. Christianism in its entirety is cucked, maybe besides some random deep-southern baptist church.

>>507100715
Also wasn't Peter the one who is supposed to create the church. That is what Jesus said to him

>>507100715
So if that was the case Peter was the boss so they believed and followed his teachings

>>507079230 (OP)
It’s incredibly pozzed. I don’t see the fruit.

>>507101191
>I don’t see the fruit
they are some of the kindest, loving, down to earth people I've ever met. contrast that to all the prote I've ever met, the orthos by far ratio them into the dirt.

>>507101067
By all means keep believing in falsehoods, I don't really care
there are so many retards like you that I am thinking of starting to grift christkikes too

>>507101356
Then why you are on 4chan if you value love and kindness lol. It is the opposite

>>507101012
>I thought they were all part of same sect and church. The apostles I mean
they were and are, that's why they held the Apostolic Synod so that none were in disagreement.
those who rejected the Apostolic Synod were excommunicated and are now known as the Ebionite heresy

>>507098751
>Do you understand how Green Text works?
Yes I do
"You said King Saul is in hell" is a quote by you
No I did NOT you LIAR!
>This is annoying.
Indeed
>You need to lurk.
I suggest you do the same
Show me EXACTLY where I said " King Saul is in Hell"
Show me exactly where you said "King Saul is in Heaven
You can't ! picrel

>>507101388
I don't really care either, grifts abound everywhere that's not exclusive to "christcuckery"
feel free to try it, as PT Barnum said
>there's a sucker born every minute

>>507101438
Im talking about a personal experience I've had to contrast the dumbass "I don't see the fruit" holier-than-thou horseshit. I don't practice.

>>507094010
jews that are alive today and that repent and honestly / truly convert to orthodoxy will also be saved.

>>507101524
But Peter has primacy and the authority over all others. Jesus literally told him he is the rock and he has the keys. Why would you listen to some random priests from some random Synod than what Jesus literally said? Seems like Catholics are right after all

>>507092133
>>507092773
You sound like muslims who claim they were all muslims and that mohammad was in the tanakh and that Adam (pbuh) was a muslim

>>507094010
What about the conversos in spain and south america who dont remember they were rabbinic jews? They converted after acts

>>507101720
>But Peter has primacy and the authority over all others.
primacy yes
authority no
all of the apostles were autonomous
just like the bishopric of the Orthodox Church
and the Synod ended in Paul's favor, so Peter, pontifex maximus or not, was forced to accept

>>507100336
you have been answered that multiple times - not leaving and forsaking does not mean Salvation. It means God will not abandon you to your sin so that there won't be any hope for you when you will stand before His Final Judgement. Salvation comes when and only when God has granted you admission to Heaven after His final Judgement on your faith DEEDS and Whole Life!

>>507101933
Weird how they all have to debate instead of magical jew spirit simply giving them all the same "inspiration". Almost like it's all fake and gay

>>507101831
>conversos in spain and south america
they are recorded in the book for later shoulder-tapping
the ones who converted before Acts 28 are on the blacklist

>>507101831
>You sound like muslims who claim they were all muslims and that mohammad was in the tanakh and that Adam (pbuh) was a muslim
Huh?

>>507101970
Yeah, here was your answer:

Paul: God said He will not leave or forsake you.
GOD: I will not leave or forsake you.
You: God WILL leave and forsake you if you don't do x and y.

>>507102009
Technically the Bible is the inspiration and the Spirit so they should technically follow what the Bible says and not some extra non biblical bs. But Orthodox don't give a shit about that.

>>507101566
>https://youtu.be/tCc2kPXzpWk?si=wB5tKbNLK1UMYo_1&t=52
Check this out, this CCTV footage from the monastery they caught in my country.
Their claim before getting caught was the cross miraculously released myrrh, of course the dumb motherfuckers in my country swallowed this shit up.
This "miracle" attracted many visitors, which donated and bought things from the monastery's shop, they were making over 1 million per years.
This is just one example of the many scams they were doing.
It's just so easy to scam christkikes, it doesn't even have to be sophisticated.

>>507100871
Nu te mai baga in seama

>>507102520
So the kike spirit was giving them all different opinions that needed a debate? How do you fall for this obvious bullshit?Jesus you jew worshipping retards are hopeless

>>507101057
Youre a narcissist with a god complex who is misinterpreting god's words. Like I said: ANATHEMA. Youre equal to John smith,some random loser who was visited by an "angel". No one buys your stuff.

>>507102232
Ah I'll break it down for you simple
I am jewish, you are claiming that King David and Saul were christians (or followed a religion that is identical to your preferred version of modern day christianity). This is very similar to the claim muslims make when they say that these same people were actually muslims the whole time, and followed a religion that is identical to their preferred version of modern day islam. With some historical/archaeological help and without any bias, we can see plainly that probably about 90% of ancient Israel was pagan, with a small population of monotheists who would, much like today, stand on the street corners warning of impending doom. The rest of everybody else were fornicating with idols, cheating their neighbors out of business deals, mistreating their workers, etc. They were not "jews," "christians" or "muslims"

Hope that helps!

>>507102741
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Hebrews 13:5 KJVAAE

>>507102763
The Bible says you're not Jewish, so everything else you said was probably worthless too. Romans 2:28-29, Revelation 2:9, Revelation 3:9, 1 John 2:23-25, 2 John 9-11

>>507102660
No they didn't give them different opinions. The Bible should be just one complete and undivided. Considering that Jesus told Peter that he is the rock and has the keys, Catholics are following that Spirit and inspiration. Since Peter was the first pope and his successors just follow his teachings. But yes the fact that Orthodoxs need debates and Synods to prove their teachings is very dubious and says a lot about them.

>>507102332
Fuck off you piece of shit. God will forsake you if youre murderous adulterous incestuous if you defile your body his creation and other people through sin. Youre a heretic. I knew it. You can tell youre an adventist based on the way you type fuck the altar of your church you walking pile of garbage. If i ever catch you spreading flyers or breaking the law im gonna have you tied up to my truck and drive you through the country roads till theres nothing left of you.you cretin.

>>507102948
Paul: God said He will not leave or forsake you.
GOD: I will not leave or forsake you.
You:
>Fuck off you piece of shit. God will forsake you if

>>507102784
You dont know what or who youre talking about. Youre talking about the bible,actually no youre citing scripture as if its the holy spirit talking through you but you are ill mannered and impolite. Dont you think you need a little more politeness and courteousness

>>507102945
>Orthodoxs need debates and Synods
the Synod is in Acts 15
what aren't you getting?
Synods are biblical
pontifex is not

>>507102907
Where is your wedding garment? The gifts of God are irrevocable.

>>507103076
God not forsaking or leaving somebody doesn't mean He condones your actions, it also doesn't mean you get a free ride into Paradise. if you woke up this morning, congrats, God didn't forsake you. you're not special.

>>507103076
You have NO FUCKING IDEA what youre talking about. Peter was a murderer himself
I dont listen to murderers. In fact im sure hes not even in heaven but at the gates of heaven. Now fuck off.

>>507102945
Ok so there were councils specifically because they didn't agree. Ergo your jew spirit isn't real

>>507079230 (OP)
Yes, listening to Jay Dyer and reading the bible was the final redpill that made me go full monarchist.

>>507103253
How are Synods biblical if the first one just started in 335 only after Constantine legalized and had the authority to impose them? Seems like this Synods make Constantine a God since he started them. Not some priests. What biblical authority does Constantine have?
If you don't believe pontifex is biblical it means orthodoxy is wrong too since they celebrate some Popes as saints and had no problem with him up until schism

>>507079230 (OP)

It's super-duper red pilled hyper-based. Boy-oh, I am now cured of my homoerotic obsession with Thor and Odin!

>>507103282
If you don't get a "Free Ride" into Paradise, that means you got left and forsaken [in hell].

Therefore, as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the FREE GIFT came upon all men unto justification of life.
Romans 5:18 KJVAAE

>>507103258
And what is Outer Darkness exactly?
Spare me your interpretation. Youre not a Jew, you're a Kike.

>>507103443
Omfg it's a phil bro who listens to jew cryer, holy fuck.

>>507103479
Show me in the kike books where it teaches how to build European architecture.

>>507103501
>muh FREE GIFT
the FREE GIFT was the opportunity, not the guarantee, to get back into Paradise which was, as you may or may not know, SEALED OFF to humanity prior to Christ's Crucifixion and subsequent defeat of Death by His death

>>507103444
>How are Synods biblical
because the whole of Acts chapter 15 describes the proceedings of the Synod of Jerusalem from 50 AD
it's in the bible, and the pontifex is not

>>507103531
>Jay Dyer blames Kikes for funding ISIS, stealing nukes, and assassinating JFK, but he totally defends Metzitzah Bpeh, trust me!

everyone who says that Jesus is Jewish and attributes his Jewishness to him forgets that the Jews killed him

u weird bros

>>507103444
>How are the synods biblical

Futu-ti dumnezeul cristosului ma-tii de sectar tampit. Baga-mi-as pula in dumnezeii mami ma-tii de oligofren ce esti. Du-te in mortii tai cu cine te-a facut cu erezia ta azi si maini

>>507103657
Ok let's say they are biblical which I doubt then what biblical authority Constantine had? He was a pagan he only baptized after he died. Also why you avoid my question on why Orthodox celebrate some Popes as saints up until schism?

>>507103634
The Free Gift IS the opportunity...for a Free Ride. Because God will never leave or forsake you.

>>507079230 (OP)
All christianity is fake

The founding myth of the religion is that god created jews first, god saved jews from destruction, jews were oppressed in egypt, god saved them, etc.

Jews coalesced out of canaanite pagans and they ruled egypt before being expelled.

>>507103657
Stop talking to him until he tells you what sect he is from

>>507103501
The outer darkness is gehinnom, aka where people go who distort God's word and have hatred in their hardened hearts. Who speaks words of hate here?

>>507079230 (OP)
grass is not greener on the other side
orthodoxy is cucked af
>address the bishops as "master"
>kiss the priest's hand
>can't eat food until he blesses it, like a dog waiting for owner to snap fingers
>>507079496
that bishop is hilarion alfeyev
he slept with subdeacon who was his personal aide
both in picrel
so based and redpilled

>>507103698
>jews jewing jews
A tale as old as time

Jesus said to a servant who was unfairly compensated, "get back to work, DO WHAT YOUR MASTER SAYS POORFAG, KNOW YOUR PLACE!"
he was, in fact, a jew

>>507103784
Ca sa te miri tu de aia. Du-te in pula mea la fratii tai aia,adventistule care esti

>>507103689
He literally worships a Jew and follows a Jewish cult called christ-golemry.

>>507103861
>Talks to him in English
>Gives a pic in Romanian

>>507103568

Show me your datasets and regression fits on why Paganism isn't as gay as jizz slathered banana split.

>>507103811
not how it works bud, unless you show God you want it He's not going to just toss you a bone like that. even demons knew Jesus is God and quoted scripture, if you can't do better than demons things may just be looking a tad grim

>>507103531
does Jay dyer really wear tallit and tefillin? That's pretty funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UYrFzf0B1I

>>507103868
And is Gehenna in the earth or on the earth?

>>507103897
>
>address the bishops as "master"

False

>kiss the priest's hand

Not obligatory. Only old women do that.


>can't eat food until he blesses it, like a dog waiting for owner to snap fingers

Only at public feasts where priests are present

We call bishops "your holiness" or "your high holiness"

>>507102763
The difference is that the law and the prophets point to Christ. “He was pierced for our transgressions” is in Isaiah. The idea of a new covenant that will go out to the nations is in Jeremiah.
Christ fulfills the law and the prophets.

>>507104017
If you or I, as a Christian, end up in hell, that means we have been left and forsaken by God. Do you agree?

>>507083759
i am a catholic myself, but catholicism modified a part of the nicene creed (which is their religious foundation) to fit their view of the world. it's a minor but significant difference highlighting why the orthodox church is the only one that has preserved ancient christian tradition intact

>>507103994
So how are you attributing the technology of Europeans to a sand nigger fairy tale book that doesn't teach any technology of science?

>>507104109
Who is talking in Isaiah 53?

>>507103978
>Thinks the picture was posted for the greek

Tu nu prea te simti,nu? Ai obrazul cam gros asa,la fel ca multi altii din thread si de pe tot site-ul. Youre an eel skin motherfucker

>>507103994
Religion has very little to do with the gays. Look at christians. Today, they have pilpulled their way into allowing trannies to be pastors due to the ball that got rolling when surprise, the bronze age book of canaanite mythology turned out to incorrectly describe the natural world
>well it was divinely inspired
>muh metaphor
>the church fathers know that god allows this to exist so it must be true

An atheist or a pagan can abhor the homosexual, and believe it or not, there was an anti-faggot movement in greco-roman society and pederasty was mostly a thing for the corrupt elites. Just like christians today! But unlike today, anti-faggotry ideology was founded in strong natural law, rather than weak jewish claims mixed in with made up history, arbitrary prophetic ramblings, and plainly incorrect descriptions of the real world that only a bronze age cave-jew could believe.

>>507104167
no, it means you ended up in hell by your own actions or inaction. God never forsook you in this life by giving you every opportunity to repent

>>507103784
>why Orthodox celebrate some Popes as saints up until schism?
it's probably close to 50/50 how many Bishops of Rome we celebrate as saints vs how many we condemn as heretics pre-schism
Constantine initiated the council based on all the rules and reconfirmations of the Apostolic Synod, for political reasons because the infighting was tearing apart his army (which was half Celt-Thracian Trinitarians and half Germanic anti-trinitarians). furthermore, it was unfavourable to Constantine because he favoured the anti-Trinitarians, but he piously rejected the heresy as required by the council

>>507104186
>>507104234

it's a bot

>>507104047
Gehinnom is the valley of topheth where people would sacrifice their children to demons. Sheol is the grave. "Gehenna" is a spiritual state where the wayward are cleansed before the resurrection and the wicked are tortured before they are permanently destroyed.

>>507104227
You responded to him retard not to me
You are a schizo autist just go to hospital. That is why we have so many dementia patients in this country

>>507104393
>Can't answer
>Trust me guys, it's a bot, I don't have to engage *sigh of relief*

>>507104370
Orthodoxy denies that it says Constantine was Orthodox and pro council so you are lying

>>507104271
>it means you "ended up" in hell
That's just a synonym for being left in hell. God will never leave or forsake a Christian.

>>507104396
>pilpuling this hard over brown, hook nosed goatfuckers mythology
You may as well be talking about hades or brahma

>>507104396
>Gehenna is a spiritual state
In the earth, or on the earth.

>>507104503
>Orthodoxy denies that
i'm sorry, who in Orthodoxy ever denied that the anti-Trinitarian bishop Eusebius baptised Constantine?

>>507104581
This ones for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__dUtfKLVvg

>>507104549
That is not true not all christians go to heaven

>>507104634
?*

>>507104688
Then why he is a saint? I thought non trinitarians are all heretics and go to hell.

>>507102945
The first church was established in Antioch, not Rome

>>507104792
>Then why he is a saint?
because he renounced his heresy

>>507104634
The earthly punishments we receive as listed in Leviticus 26 and parts of Deuteronomy are not considered "gehinnom" "or "gehenna" although you can consider those as a sort of personal hell experience. Complete permanent destruction means complete permanent destruction obviously including the physical.

The hidden things belong to the Lord, our God, but the revealed things apply to us and to our children forever: that we must fulfill all the words of this Torah. כחהַנִּ֨סְתָּרֹ֔ת לַֽיהֹ אֱלֹהֵ֑ינוּ וְהַנִּגְלֹ֞ת ֹלָֹ֤נוֹּ ֹוֹּלְֹבָֹנֵֹ֨יֹנֹוּ֨ עַד־עוֹלָ֔ם לַֽעֲשׂ֕וֹת אֶת־כָּל־דִּבְרֵ֖י הַתּוֹרָ֥ה הַזֹּֽאת:

>>507104812
Yea and? Arianism was a church too how it makes it right? Arius was a priest and there were some arian and heretical bishops

>>507104549
you weren't "left" God is everywhere, you just didn't learn to be receptive of Him in this life so it's going to burn when you're in His unadulterated presence.
try this, using "Christian" in the broad sense. would you agree that, as a Christian, you have a sacred duty to God to love Him with your whole heart, your whole mind, and whole soul and to love your neighbor as yourself?

>>507104698
> not all christians go to heaven
>>507099178
>Christcucks just want rabbi cock at this point.
>>507097383
>Kill yourself christcuck
>>507097275
>Wtf is this all christcuckery bs.

>>507104903
When? I thought you said he was pro anti trinitarian how is that not a heresy and he was baptized by an Arian. So it means he entered the Arian church not Orthodox

>>507104946
You said all go to heaven. If I am a Christian and repent my sins for what I said by your logic I go to heaven right? Also being a fucking Nazi racist and violent is good right? You are all of them

>>507079230 (OP)
Christianity is the ultimate bluepill.

>>507104914
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2 John 1:9 KJVAAE
>>507104944
Yes, we have a sacred duty to love God with our whole heart, whole mind, and whole soul.
>We love him, because he first loved us.
>1 John 4:19 KJVAAE

>>507092133
>>507092773
>>507093263
>>507094638
what a retarded waste of time. why don't you instead interpret why you are following a god that made a son whose entire destiny was to get tortured to death in order to... teach the kikes a lesson?!? cause he sounds like a bad guy. like that's some S-tier sociopathic behavior.

>>507105101
Also in your skirts is found the blood of the souls of the innocent poor; you did not find them breaking in, but for all these.

>>507104989
>So it means he entered the Arian church not Orthodox
it was a mess really, because his sons were also divided on the Trinity, and Constantius took advantage of Constantine's old age to basically take control of the germanified legions through the arianism grift
eventually it ended up in a whole other council being called to again deal with Arianism which reaffirmed the first

>>507105101
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1 John 2:23 KJVAAE

>>507105352
>Yes, we have a sacred duty to love God with our whole heart, whole mind, and whole soul.
okay, good. now if you know you are obliged to perform this duty, what do you think should happen if you were afforded every opportunity to be able to perform this duty and did not?

>>507105457
How the fuck is that related to what I said. It says nothing about sins and redemption retard. You are s fucking retard. You bring up random passages with no meaning to questions and act like you know anything about Christianity. You are a fucking violent racist Nazi how the fuck you think you will be in heaven. Firstly God hates violent people it says in Psalms

>>507105542
They should be punished.

>>507105457
Yeah this is where I cannot get on board, it's pure evil idolatry. The essenes were onto something, in fact essene philosophy, angelology, and ritual baptism is largely continued today in chassidut and zohar, but the Torah clearly forbids making earthly associations with God.

11And you approached and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the mountain burned with fire up to the midst of the heavens, with darkness, a cloud, and opaque darkness.
12The Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire; you heard the sound of the words, but saw no image, just a voice.

1Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it.
2If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
3and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them,"
4you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul.
5You shall follow the Lord, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him.
6And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death; because he spoke falsehood about the Lord, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which the Lord, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.

>>507105680
>They should be punished.
winner, winner. chicken dinner! exactly, and that's what hell is, the punishment

>>507105433
That is not good anon

>>507105863
God will never leave or forsake a Christian, so that punishment will be on earth and/or in heavenly rewards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thsnkOH4dzA

HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NECK TURKROACH.

>>507105851
>the Torah clearly forbids making earthly associations with God.

And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
Genesis 18:1 KJVAAE

>>507106008
Are you Avraham or a prophet?

>>507106094
No he is a violent racist Nazi who contradicts everything about Christianity. God hates him according to Psalms and many other

>>507106094
Did the LORD (Jesus) eat a meal with Abraham and then wipe out Sodom and Gomorrah?

Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomor´rah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
Genesis 19:24 KJVAAE

>>507106194
He sent messengers in the form of humans. Who are not God.
>Lord out of heaven

>>507106366
That is not what the text says.

>>507105932
God never forsook you by giving you this life to perform that sacred duty. there are no do-overs. either you did it, with God's help, or you refused Him in this life. there's no guarantee you'll get into Heaven. plenty of Christians are going to end up in hell because they didn't do even the bare minimum of what their Master asked them to do.

>>507106478
The text says:

וַיֵּרָ֤א אֵלָיו֙ יְ בְּאֵֽלֹנֵ֖י מַמְרֵ֑א וְה֛וּא ישֵׁ֥ב פֶּֽתַח־הָאֹ֖הֶל כְּחֹ֥ם הַיּֽוֹם:
2And he lifted his eyes and saw, and behold, three men were standing beside him, and he saw and he ran toward them from the entrance of the tent, and he prostrated himself to the ground. בוַיִּשָּׂ֤א עֵינָיו֙ וַיַּ֔רְא וְהִנֵּה֙ שְׁלשָׁ֣ה אֲנָשִׁ֔ים נִצָּבִ֖ים עָלָ֑יו וַיַּ֗רְא וַיָּ֤רָץ לִקְרָאתָם֙ מִפֶּ֣תַח הָאֹ֔הֶל וַיִּשְׁתַּ֖חוּ אָֽרְצָה

>>507106366
Is any thing too hard for the Lord? AT THE TIME APPOINTED I WILL RETURN UNTO THEE, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.
Genesis 18:14 KJVAAE

Do you know when this happened?

>>507106571
14Is anything hidden from the Lord? At the appointed time, I will return to you, at this time next year and Sarah will have a son."

Once again you distort the meaning of the text, in clear violation of the commandment to not add or subtract from the text, which doesn't even apply to you because you are not nor were ever a jew or hebrew or israelite or anything except a hateful reprobate

>>507106563
>>507106571
And the Lord visited Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did unto Sarah as he had spoken. For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him.
Genesis 21:1-2 KJVAAE

>>507106515
If a Christian is left in hell, that contradicts God when He says he will never leave or forsake us. Do not wrest this.

>>507106741
Poor guy thinks God is a man in the sky lol

Why are the angels depicted in Ezekiels vision all animals and technology?

>>507106910
The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.
Exodus 15:3 KJVAAE

>>507104405
Da de unde stii ma,i-ai numarat? Nu vezi ca tu ai ramas repetent si in clasa a 8a? Scarbosule

>>507106563
>behold, three men
one of them is even wearing Jesus' robe

>>507106975
The Lord is a Master of war. Heb. אִישׁ מִלְחָמָה, lit., a man of war, [which is inappropriate in reference to the Deity. Therefore,] Rashi renders: Master of war, like “Naomi’s husband (אִישׁ נָעֳמִי)” (Ruth 1:3) and so, every [instance in the Torah of] אִישׁ, husband, and אִישֵׁךְ, your husband, is rendered: בַּעַל, master. Similarly, “You shall be strong and become a man (לְאִישׁ)” (I Kings 2:2), [meaning] a strong man. —

>>507106975
Stfu youre making a mockery out of yourself you disingenuous fuck. Jesus=/=God=/=the Holy Spirit. You can have all 3 of them 2 of them or just 1. Very hard to have all. But rest assured that the Father is by far the most important because everyone and everything comes from Him YHVH