Is paganism a jewish psyop to create division and distraction of hating jews?

There is 400 years of missing history because of Catholic Church. The Catholic Church was brutal religious communism from 400-ish to 800-ish. They kept no historical records. The Chinese and Muslims kept historical records during this 400 year span.

>>507110460 (OP)
noooo you cant worship the gods of your ancestors, you must worship the god of jews!


its all so tiresome.

Catholic Church came up with “paganism”... there are records from the 800’s where Catholic Church was fighting “paganism” in areas far from “civilization”. People were doing pagan rituals during grape harvest. Catholic Church made it illegal to smile while making wine.

>>507110460 (OP)
christianity is the jewish psyop you homo

>>507110460 (OP)

>>507110460 (OP)
>Could not worshipping a dead jew be a jewish psyop??

>>507110460 (OP)
the turk lydian something that impose hypocrite policy croesus will be defeated by Fars

for some reason christcucks are fine with niggers and muzshits flooding their countries and raping their women but as soon as you say you practice Native European Spirituality they lose their fucking minds

Christ is King all the same. If you blind yourself to that fact that He is the God of all creation, including the jews, thats up to you.

>>507110460 (OP)
Modern paganism is a larp but it's not some psyop. It's just people looking for spirituality and having some fun.

>>507110460 (OP)
Yes, it always has been.

>>507111178
None of that is true.

>>507111873
Well, I'm not greek. Besides the reality that the greek gods are not real, you can't just pick up like that thousands of years later, this isn't a religion, it's pretend. The greeks would kill you for this, it;s probably some form of blasphemy.

>>507115438
>this isn't a religion, it's pretend
holy shit

>>507110460 (OP)
>Is paganism a jewish psyop
Probably not
Jews hate paganism on principle. They hate Christianity too but they can control that super easily so they allow it.
You don't have to worship any gods as a pagan technically, you can just kind of believe in spirits and such. Self-worship is dumb and anyone pushing it is almost always selling you something. Look at gods as some ideal to aspire to be like.

YO LETS GOO

>>507110460 (OP)
>Picrel
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO
HAIL ZEUS
DO YOU PUSSIES EVEN LIFT
GONNA SACRIFICE AN OX FOR THIS FUCK YEAH
WOOO

>>507110460 (OP)
Enhance image on that red haired woman.

>>507114823
That's just balt tradition

>>507110460 (OP)
jews fear paganism you panface retard

>is pure white power a jewish psyop

No. No it's not.

>>507110460 (OP)
no, Christianity is the Jewish psy op.

No it’s just deluded atheists and white trash crypto-Christians who want to LARP as Nazi occultists being retarded. All the Jewish made comic books and video games informing these morons haven’t helped though.

>>507115438
>you can't just pick up like that thousands of years later
Why not?
>this isn't a religion
Right, of course, true religion must be handed to us by Jews

NOOO NOT MY WHOLESOME CHUNGUS ORTHO HOMELAND!!!

>>507110460 (OP)
No, but you're on par with a jew, metrogook

>>507115438
>Well, I'm not greek.
Are you lebanese, palestinian or egyptian? If not then you are playing pretend

>>507115438
It's not pretend, it's revival. Greeks choosing Greek mythology over semitic mythology.

>>507111873
spbp /thread

Christianity is proto globohomo

>>507113448
Lmao nice gif anon

>>507114823
What's wrong with marrying a man? (HARD MODE: You can't use the semitic holy text in your response)

>>507110460 (OP)
Daily reminder that jews and christians worship a bronze age bull god and muslims worship the moon.
Also a daily reminder that christianity and islam aren't religions, but cults.

The Jews were never slaves in Egypt. Exodus is bullshit.

>>507110460 (OP)
yes and hitler said so directly in mein kampf

The ancient gods make the most sense from a practical understanding of the cosmos. Spiritual and physical expressions of Natural Law. You can add Jesus to the Pantheon as god of Forgiveness and Grace if you want.

That's the shittest temple I've ever seen.
I could build a bigger one in my backyard for the cost of materials.

>>507117458
>”You can add Jesus to the Pantheon as god of Forgiveness and Grace if you want”

As so many early Christians did

Reminder that Jews have the West cornered and that science and atheism is Jew dominated as well as Christianity.
Supporting atheism openly is supporting science-based moralism which is basically no moralism at all. A "study" will have to confirm whatever abuse society is inflicting on people, and then a hundred more studies to have "a developed body of literature on the subject" and after 100 studies people will figure out that pornography is bad for small children, or that wi-fi is bad for your health. But since morals are financially inconvenient then these sorts of studies will get brushed under the rug until there's either angry mobs, or someone powerful needs a convenient scapegoat

>>507112126
>pirate flag
>>507112138
>kekistani flag>>507113448
>leaf


i have shown you guys already that the moderation team has an obvious bias towards antichrist kikes, they will ban us but not them even when they are breaking the same rules at the same time, the mods and antichrist kikes ARE THE SAME, always do the opposite of what kikes want, praise jesus and heil hitler

>>507111873
>gods of your ancestors
Nephilim demons who tricked retards into worshiping them and then laughed as they reaped the consequences
Why anyone would worship created beings over the Eternal Source of All Things is something I'll never understand

>>507117757
Maybe the creator of all things doesn't give much of a shit about you.
Like when you go outside and see squirrels fucking and think "oh cool" like that's the eternal creator's brief momentary gaze on you that happens sometimes.
Oh that's right you can't have intermediaries there's only the most highest high high GOD and he died for a few shitty mortals.

>>507117458
The kike "god" is typhon.

>>507117757
Weird how Yahweh didn't make himself known for about 250,000 years and just let billions of humans go to purgatory/hell without any possibility of redemption.
For some reason he really cared about the people living in the armpit of the Middle East 2000 years ago.

>>507118097
>Weird how Yahweh didn't make himself known for about 250,000

weird how man harnessed fire and then nothing else for over a hundred thousand years not even agriculture, or maybe its just a bunch of bullshit

>>507110460 (OP)
No, that's Christianity you fucking kike.

>>507113448
>>507112138
>>507111873
>>507113823
Indians are your pagan bros :3

>>507110460 (OP)
Just prepping for the Antichrist

>>507118216
hitler would have disagreed with you and he was right while you are jewish im gonna go with hitler on this one

>>507110460 (OP)
a lot of things are done for divisionary reason
usually there;s incentive towards passion and appeals to emotion or imaginary reasoning involved
I see the hooks behind their bait

>>507111178
It's actually 700 years
>The Chinese and Muslims kept historical records during this 400 year span.
Chinese chronology was (((corrected))) by jesuits to account for the 700 years added to the timeline

>>507118170
Oh sorry Cletus from Kentucky, I guess your uncle father told you that the world is only 2000 years old and geology was invented by the liberals to trick you.

>>507118097
the modern world is incompatible with traditional Christian concepts of salvation

>there's only the local church, your immediate family, your village, a few other villages like it, a neighboring country or two you heard of, and some savages far to the south and far to the east as well that will never see the light of god and maybe that's for the best because the year is 1100 AD and your grandfather told you about how his grandfather had all of his temples and homes burned down at the hands of Christians and that's never happening again
That's the world Christianity flourished in. Replacing it has just been too much trouble

>>507118357
>Cletus

this is a kike. you believe that man harnessed fire regularly but just sat on his ass for one hundred thousand years and didnt even think to plant seeds? how many generations of man is that in a hundred thousand years kike?

its BULLSHIT

>>507115438
Worshipping marble is lame

>>507118251
I think you're confused. White people had their own religions. Pagan is just a word used for pre-Judeo-Christian faiths.

>>507118520
the original israelites were white and the spartans sent a letter to the chief priests in israel saying they had found geneologies that showed they (The spartans) were directly descended from abraham, this is recorded in the book of maccabees. i know the spartans are not the romans but they were related

>>507117757
>Man in robe say other gods are demons, so other gods are demons.

>>507117991
I have directly encountered God's love, power and beauty, it alters your life in a way that you can't go back to your previous self
Too many people think it's an intellectual process of belief but it's not, it is an experience with your entire being and in an instant you understand what this is all about, and what God really is
Jesus is the true materiel embodiment of the nature of God
>>507118097
You're really not as smart as you think you are Pierre, don't know what else to tell you

>>507110460 (OP)
that's not a temple: that's a shed

>>507118762
the greeks literally record the gods lusting after women, and having petty querrels with one another. the bible said the nephilim lusted after women and were evil and violent

the greek gods were evil even according to the GREEKS

>>507114355
LARP vs LARP

>>507118853
>querrels
quarrels

>>507118762
Anything that you can single out as an entity is automatically LESS than the One Eternal, this is basic logic
Any true "god" would tell you to worship the One Almighty and not themselves, as Jesus did when he took on the flesh of His own creation

>>507118903
christians arent larping they have the original texts and all the rites, while pagans are following what is OBJECTIVELY a modern larp whos rites were mostly made up in the last hundred years because we dont have the actual records of their rites, that is a fact not an opinion

Take the angriest most retarded /pol/ack on here, you know the guy that hates all pagans, moslems, jews, buddhists, hindus, zoroastrians, atheists, etc. They guy that also hates literally everyone that's not specifically anglo-saxon although continental western Europeans may survive only at his discretion. Basically he would be in the KKK but he even hates them for some reason. This guy is the model pre-enlightenment clergyman, he's ready to throw lives away in a race war just for the fuck of it, and make sure nobody survives fucking with him or the state. "His zeal burns bright" is what they say. Knowledge isn't a virtue to Christianity

>>507110460 (OP)
Christianity is you dumb christcuck.

>>507119063
hitler would have disagreed with you and he was hitler while you are fucking jewish, im going with hitler on this one

>>507115438
So what? Are the gods going to come down and tell people they're doing it wrong?

>>507116848
>I automatically know if someone is sincere.

>>507119001
>the original texts
All of those were written after jesus was dead by people who never met him.

>>507119338
kikes have spent the last decade making shows and movies that promote paganism, vikings, the thor movies etc

if you lap that up you dont fucking belong here, you are retarded

>>507119001
>The original texts
Lol. Lmao.

>>507119146
No. Nobody wants anything to change. If you knew anything about occult lore you would know that the gods just fuck off and maybe appoint a few high priests to keep in touch with things.
In Rome only the state was allowed to worship or make sacrifices to the Pantheon deities. And in Judaism the name of God was kept a secret and only spoken once a year in a ritual. That's why you call it "God" in the first place
>do not use the Lord's name in vain
Christians misunderstand this like they misunderstand most of their teachings

>>507119432
>All of those were written after jesus was dead by people who never met him.

the fuck are you talking about peter certainly met jesus lol

>>507119001
Not totally true, there were like 100 versions of the “rights”. Early church documented them. For example one version had a priest jack off into his hand and people had to lick it. No thanks

For all you know the current one is incorrect

The monkey spank can be found in “the questions about Mary”... Jesus jacked off and told Mary to eat it if she wanted to go to heaven

>>507119434
I don't play in any LARP. Someone wants to play pagan, fine. Someome wants to eat magic crackers, fine. Just don't expect me to play with you.

>>507118650
That's just Jews coping and it has nothing to do with my post. White people already had their own religions before adopting Semitic beliefs.

>>507119486
>I know the real truth, unlike all these morons.

>>507119472
what are you laughing about christians have literally the ONLY old religious text that has been preserved for thousands of years

all those greek texts and eddas were "rediscovered" during the fucking enlightenment meaning some kike could have just written them in the last couple hundred years because they were "lost to time for hundreds of years"

the books of the bible the old and new testament were never lost and "rediscovered" but preserved and handed down for thousands of years

there is no other "relic" or "artifact" like that, NONE the hindu veddas are the only ones that come close but those were "oral tradition" until a few hundred years ago so its hardly the same


the bible is unique in all the world for this reason

>>507118446
>evolution is bullshit
>paleontology is bullshit
>history is bullshit
>carbon dating is bullshit
>geology is bullshit
>plate tectonics is bullshit
>DNA is bullshit
>astronomy is bullshit
>the tens if not hundreds of millions of people involved in these studies for the last 5000 years of recorded history are taking part in an elaborate conspiracy to trick Christians, sometimes thousands of years in advance of the religion being founded

Okay retard.
Go ahead and call me a Jew when their entire faith is predicated on the same bullshit. Go pray to your Jew God, Cletus.

>>507119610
https://ehrmanblog.org/the-lost-greater-questions-of-mary-rated-r-x/

>>507119762

>>507119432
>written after jesus was dead by people who never met him.
Meanwhile...
>Matthew (disciple)
>John (disciple)
>Peter (disciple)
>James (Jesus' brother)
>Jude (Jesus' brother)
Why lie anon?
Maybe you just didn't know?
I sincerely encourage you to study that which you criticize before making your ignorance public

>>507111873
Spbp

>>507110460 (OP)
>is every single religion that wasn't created by jews a jewish psyop?
Damn, I can't believe you figured it all out.

>>507119648
>That's just Jews coping and it has nothing to do with my post. White people already had their own religions before adopting Semitic beliefs.

you are a fucking retard, the old testament records the original israelites were a white ruddy people who were commanded not to racemix, it records them breaking this commandment and the resulting mongrels from these unions demographically replacing them along with foriegn tribes the king of assyria literally replaced them with and those mongrels killed jesus because he pointed out they were mongrels as he called his actual sheep back to rome with their brethren


jews HATE the actual content of the bible and that would be glaringly obvious to you if you could be arsed to actually read it

>>507119804
ur a kike

once again, the official story is that man widely harnessed fire a HUNDRED THOUSAND YEARS before inventing farming or literally anything its obviously bullshit and if you thought about it, just tried to envision it you would realize that. how many generations of man lived and died in 100 thousand years? its a fucking lot they would have put seeds in the ground and built animal pens LONG before then if they were modern humans (which according to science they were) its completely unbelievable

>>507110460 (OP)
If any religion is jewish psyop it would be the ones created by them wouldn't it?

>>507119495
Peter isn't even one of the people with a gospel falsely attributed to him.

>>507117392
Archeological and linguistic evidence suggests kikes were originally enslaved in Yemen. Weird fact: Pharaoh as a term only exists in the Torah, the ancient Egyptian word for it (which was just the word for king) is unrelated. You'd expect slave populations to absorb at least some terms from their enslavers but nope.

>>507115438
Magic jews and the bible aren't real, Miguel. You were just brainwashed into believing they were.

>>507120331
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter%201&version=KJV

1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

>>507110460 (OP)
>ionian style temple.
Doric is more based.

>>507120457
ur a kike

>miguel

>>507119916
Oh, I'm well aware that this jewish sect was full of lying jews writing fan fiction and claiming it was from people who had been dead for a century or more.

>>507119775
Sure bro. Your pastor told you that, or you read it in an apologist's book, so it must be true, right?

>>507120662
its literally an objective historical fact.


there is no ancient book that wasnt "rediscovered" in the last millennia besides the bible as a matter of objective fact it is unique in all history for this

>>507118446
that's because agriculture sucks dick
there's a reason it didn't take off until slavery and sedentism were imposed on people at spearpoint

>>507120809
>that's because agriculture sucks dick


you fucking moron

>>507120091
No the official story is that dozens if not hundreds of independent scientific pursuits have found evidence corroborating the same timeline and have been repeatedly reviewed and challenged over thousands of years by different people and institutions with wildly different goals and belief systems, all coming to the same conclusions and reinforcing one another.
The oldest human settlement found so far has been dated to 9500BCE, so about 5500 years before you think Yahweh made the world with his magic powers. The oldest evidence we have of agriculture dates back to the Neolithic Revolution, about 12,000 years ago, but that's only what we know. There could have been much earlier examples that we haven't found or that didn't leave evidence we can find in 2025. There was also an ice age in which glaciers ravaged much of the Northern hemisphere potentially making evidence from before that period hard to find.
There are cave paintings in my country created by Neanderthals that are 22,000 years old.

I'm not gonna convince you because you're a Kentucky nigger who believes in magic, Cletus, but I hope I can give your simple mind some inkling as to how fucking deluded and uneducated you are.
All of human progress is against you but magic book say all science wrong.

>>507120475
Do you genuinely believe this was written by an illiterate jew fisherman?

>>507121024
the fact that modern archeology has anotomically modern man around for hundreds of thousands of years without inventing a single goddamn thing shows that its bullshit


you cannot think, imagine THREE generations of man, sitting around inventing JACK SHIT, that stretches incredulity not even a fucking animal pen

400 generations of men, who did fuck all i guess


they get the order of things roughly right but then STRETCH out the timeline like your moms pussy

>dragons were a myth they never existed

>oh wait they did exist but we are gonna relabel them and say they lived 250 million years ago, hey check out this 250 million year old SOFT TISSUE

its fergaloney

>>507119949
Claiming to be white is a common mythological trope. Just like with Maccabees, some Jews lied about their ancestry to look better.
>jews HATE the actual content of the bible and that would be glaringly obvious to you if you could be arsed to actually read it
I've read the bible and I really don't think they hate it as much as you think. Christians are the only people still defending them.

>>507121306
it was written by the literate white apostle (former fisherman named cephas) peter

>>507121346
>Claiming to be white is a common mythological trope.

because white people preserve history PERIOD, and then those former white colonies get infested with brownoids (you) who live in the bones of their once great society and claim they built it we are seeing the exact same process play out in america

>america was built by slaver OUT OF COTTON

>tears down statues of white founding fathers

Yes it is. In years none of these fags will be pretending to be pagans anymore.
Isn’t it funny how every “pagan” doesn’t even say what kind of pagan they are, so what are you a Greek Pagan, a Norse Pagan, some Wiccan tranny or what?
Every LARPagan I’ve ever known was some fat bitch who wanted to play pretend that she was a witch, that’s the kind of cringe lefty this stuff attracts
Most of them certainly don’t even believe in any of it, no one actually believes Zeus or Odin are real, they’re just desperate to herd the people into anything except Christianity which has real strength and power and is most of European history

>>507117242
It's gay

>>507110460 (OP)
I like Poseidon because he is actively based and drowning niggers all the time.

Hail Poseidon!!!

>>507121024
Oh my darwin!
Thanks for getting those nazis told, they really need to learn about the scientific consensus!

>>507121371
>peter
>White
Oh, you're a kike. Why didn't you just say so from the start?
Please hang yourself at your earliest convenience.

>>507120758
The bible has been edited multiple times though

>>507110460 (OP)
Look, I don't care if they want to crown Ronald McDonald the new supreme God, as long as they know what's up you can use any name you want.

yeah "Father Yah" king of kings is real and YAHWEH is real but Io Pater and JOVE king of the gods is made up shit huh
it all makes sense when Jesus is the god of booooooooooooooze

>>507122017
>Oh, you're a kike.

im danish scottish/irsih and german

im jacob anthony mcqueen


peter and jesus were both racially white, all modern "jews" are mongrel larpers genuinely

>>507122201
Were the Euopeans who worshipped Zeus, Odin etc not white?

>>507120758
Whatever you say, bro.

>>507122054
it is the ONLY book preserved throughout history all other books people think of as "ancient" were lost to time and "rediscovered" around the time of the "enlightenment" this is a fact

the edits where they exist are minor and there is remarkable consistency between various copies of the bible that were "rediscovered" to compare to the preserved version that has been passed down. you havent read the fucking thing its actually amazing when you read it in its entirety even if you dont believe its an incredible thing

>>507122360
Are the writings of Euclid, Homer, Plato not ancient?

black or brown, white, yellow, red, whatever race, all have more in more in common with each other than anything else

>>507122326
>Were the Euopeans who worshipped Zeus, Odin etc not white?

they were white but under false doctrine they still did good and valued what was good because they were of gods sheep (being white)


the turn the other cheek stuff is for our racial brethren under false doctrine which is what the romans were, because they were white as well, when early christians told them they LOVED THEM when they were throwing them to lions and shit it MOVED THEM and they converted, the mongrel kikes if shown that same grace and even if argued with PERFECT argument from gods own lips would simply nail you to a tree for your trouble and never be moved because being mongrels there is no light in them to perceive the light by

>>507110460 (OP)
>the religion that preceded abrahamic zionist bullshit is jewish
that idea in itself is a jewish psyop

>>507122481
>Are the writings of Euclid, Homer, Plato not ancient?

what works of theirs were preserved throughout the ages in a private collection versus "rediscovered" around the time of the enlightenment?

>>507121322
We have arrowheads in Ethiopia that are 74,000 years old, so we know they were inventing shit and making tools at least that long ago. The oldest tools predate modern humans and date back to 2.9 million years, so it's pretty likely that humans have always been tool users since our inception as a species.
They may very well have been doing other shit that we don't know about or don't have evidence for, we can't say for sure, and we don't accept assumptions as facts.
What we do have is enough evidence to disprove the entire foundation myth of your religion.
I can go out in my garden and find rocks that are older than 6000 years, you simpleton. I can date my own ancestors back further than that. They were living in this area 25,000 years ago, so about 19,000 years before Yahweh's magic spells created the world and 23,000 years before your sandnigger Jesus was spawned from his whore mother. Immaculate conception lmao.
>durr kike durr
It's literally the same religion, their texts are your foundational texts, you worship the same God (Yahweh) and have the same foundation myth. God created the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th, Adam in the Garden of Eden, the Fall, Noah's Ark, Moses and the Exodus, it's all the same bullshit.
Don't call me a Kike, Kike-lover.

>>507122526
So all of Europe was wrong but a group of people from a desert in Asia who never accomplished anything of merit were right?

>>507122629
Are you suggesting that those works are fake and created during the time of the enlightenment?

>>507122641
>We have arrowheads in Ethiopia that are 74,000 years old, so we know they were inventing shit and making tools at least that long ago. The oldest tools predate modern humans and date back to 2.9 million years,


notice i have specified agriculture and animal pens multiple times, a sharp rock or a sharp stick is not as impressive as harnessing fire even in my view, what i am suggesting is that archeologists get the ORDER of things ROUGHLY correct but then stretch the timeline beyond the point of absurdity and they do this regularly


the next big step after harnessing fire (which likely came after the invention of sharp rocks and sticks) to the invention of even basic agriculture is according to modern archeology 100,000 years. that is insane if the humans in question are anatomically modern (meaning modern brains) it doesnt take 400 generations to figure out basic farming

>>507122655
well nobody in Europe was caught doing miracles after writing was invented

>>507122752
>Are you suggesting that those works are fake and created during the time of the enlightenment?

im suggesting that because they were ALL rediscovered around the time of the enlightenment that it is at least a possiblility where as the bible has been preserved throughout time and was never "lost" in the first place it is unique in the entire universe in that sense at least

>>507122655
>So all of Europe was wrong but a group of people from a desert in Asia who never accomplished anything of merit were right?

yes until they became right as well, europe hardly accomplished anything of note before it was Christianized mind you. and having the oldest preserved history book that was never "lost to time" is an accomplishment in and of itself

>>507122961
Which bible?

>>507121493
No, Chinese people and Semites were keeping history and they're not white. White people appear in myth because we look interesting and do interesting things. When brown people, like your Jews, encountered them they applied their traits onto their own ancestors because it made them feel special.

>>507122961
But it boils down to this, either Platos writings are a 17th century invention or they are not. Which on is it?

>>507111178
You are a retard gorilla nigger.
>>507110460 (OP)
Christianity was founded by Jews to spread Jewish doctrine.

>>507123055
>Which bible?

the christian bible

you are trying to pil pul about various canons and translations but the main body of the scriptures was preserved and handed down for thousands of years and there is just objectively no other book that can claim the same thing

>>507110460 (OP)
Yes

>>507110460 (OP)
>paganism a jewish psyop
Other religions existed long before Jews. Jews are just loin cloth wearing niggers from Canaan that copied Greek works then cried "buy dey wuz not us".

>>507123044
Europe accomplished nothing of note before 100AD? Really dude?

>history book
The bible is not historically accurate though.

>>507123210
Uh huh, sure.

>>507123044
you're the dumbest fuck around
Herodotus' Histories is the first history book and it predates the old Testament by hundreds of years.
Also
>europe hardly accomplished anything of note before it was Christianized
Europe conquered the known world and most of Asia several times and the entire western World is built on Greek notions of Democracy and Roman models of citizenship. Even modern employment law comes from Roman laws about slaves being property. The rail lines are based on standard Roman wagon width.
>hardly anything
Jesus would have been another forgotten cult leader if not for Europe, the only place people actually converted. And Europe went to total shit after that for centuries until the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment is based on pre-Christian models too, where the Church was cast down from leadership. Europe today is much much much less religious for these reasons.

>>507123081
>But it boils down to this, either Platos writings are a 17th century invention or they are not. Which on is it?

im not sure, my point is that the bible is the only book for which this discussion isnt even relevant as its the ONLY book that had been preserved and handed down for thousands of years not "lost" and "Rediscovered"


of the ancient greek works of read, namely the republic, the illyad and the odyssey i was very let down by them and they didnt feel inspired or like something that would have been preserved by ancient peoples so perhaps they were forged i dont know though, i suspect pliney the elders natural histories might be legit but im speculating on all of these books the point im making is the bible is the only ancient book where such speculation is just not relevant because it was never "lost"

>>507122884
We don't have evidence for it.
That doesn't mean it never happened.
We can't build a timeline with evidence that we don't have, can we?
You are interpreting a lack of evidence as a claim that it could not have happened, which nobody is saying. In fact I think most people would say the opposite and would agree with you, that it very likely did happen, but we can't prove a negative.
Before the discovery of Gobekli Tepe, it was assumed that human civilization was much younger than it actually is. We're actually constantly being proven wrong about how advanced ancient humans were and what they were able to accomplish, because science is always evolving and changing as we learn more and refine our processes.

Earth is still older than 6000 years though.

>>507123243
>Europe accomplished nothing of note before 100AD? Really dude?

sorry i always do this, when we talk about ancient history i sometimes seperate rome from western europe even though thats not techinically geographically correct, i tend to lump them in with the near east that is my mistake

>>507118251
Keep being a kike worshipper. You and your ancestors had nothing to do with that small strip of desert shit hole in the middle East, yet that area and it's kiked influences have come to define your entire existence. It really is fascinating to see how far slaves will go to defend their masters

>>507123433
>Herodotus' Histories is the first history book and it predates the old Testament by hundreds of years.


Histories (Herodotus). Article · Talk. Language; Watch · Edit. The Histories ... rediscovered in 1975. Th

>>507117757
>jews say my god is real so he's real

Typical christkike.

>>507123464
YAre you saying they are forgerys? Because if not then they were preserved in their original form for a longer time. Whether you felt anything is a different matter and not relevant

The Christian church absolutely devastated Europe and set it behind the fucking Muslims for basically 1000 years.
tl;dr miracles are banned

>>507123509
>We don't have evidence for it.
>That doesn't mean it never happened.

modern archeologists would laugh at you for suggesting that agriculture was discovered any earlier than twelve to nine thousand years ago

>>507117757

>my religion that emerged hundreds of years after yours calls you fake

Shit bro, the Muslims did that to yours, so you Muslim now?

>>507110460 (OP)
it`s a larp for atheists who hate christianity more than any other religion to the point where they will pretend to be pagan hoping they can lure more religious people away from christianity

>>507123681
>YAre you saying they are forgerys?

no i am saying because they were not preserved they COULD Be forgeries my point is more that the bible is UNIQUE in the world of relics for its provenance being passed down generation to generation never LOST and "Rediscovered" there is no other book like it in this regard

>>507119486
>In Rome only the state was allowed to worship or make sacrifices
That's incorrect. In ancient Rome,
both the state and individuals practiced religious worship and sacrifices

>>507123551
So Europe does have accomplishments that predate Christianity. So youre objection here (>>507123044
) was inccorect.

Christianity and Nationalism / Politics are at odds.
>“I am a Christian. He who answers thus has declared everything at once—his country, profession, family; the believer belongs to no city on earth but to the heavenly Jerusalem.”
St. John Chrysostom

Rousseau Social Contract pages 67 through 73.
https://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/rousseau1762.pdf
>This was the situation when Jesus came to set up on earth a spiritual kingdom, which, by separating the theological from the political system, destroyed the unity of the state, and caused the internal divisions that never ceased to trouble Christian peoples. This new idea of a kingdom of 'the other world' could never have occurred to pagans, so they always regarded the Christians as really rebels.

>But this religion, having no special relation to the body politic, leaves the laws with only the force they draw from themselves without adding anything to it; which means that one of the great bonds for uniting the society of the given country is left idle. Worse: so far from binding the citizens' hearts to the state, it detaches them from that and from all earthly things. I know of nothing more contrary to the social spirit.

>They tell us that a populace of true Christians would form the most perfect society imaginable. I see only one great difficulty about this idea, namely that a society of true Christians wouldn't be a society of men.

>Christianity is an entirely spiritual religion, occupied solely with heavenly things; the Christian's country is not of this world.

>But I'm wrong to speak of a Christian republic--those terms are mutually exclusive. Christianity preaches only servitude and dependence. Its spirit is so favourable to tyranny that it always profits by such a régime. Genuine Christians are made to be slaves, and they know it and don't much mind: this short life counts for too little in their eyes.

>>507118650
WE

>>507123617
Maybe they would have kept it around if not for Christianity. The Aeneid was the most popular book at the time of Jesus and even the most popular book on the planet was lost until 1438?

>>507123810
Sometimes a senator was allowed to do a sacrifice to a major god but normal people would usually do sacrifices to household "gods" or ancestors which kind of overlapped.

>>507123904
IZ

>>507123807
Okay so they are not forgerys. So there are writings that predate the bible. And those writings have excellent ideas and are filled with stories of European ethics, religion and morality that is superior to the bible.

>>507117757
Yahweh is not the eternal source of all things.

>>507123964
Are*

>>507123936
>Maybe they would have kept it around if not for Christianity. The Aeneid was the most popular book at the time of Jesus and even the most popular book on the planet was lost until 1438?


im suggesting even the book of enoch MIGHT be a forgery even though jesus references it.


im not saying these books NEVER existed but that the versions of them we have in our posession all were "rediscovered" relatively recently the bible is the only ancient book that isnt like that and i find that incredibly interesting

>>507123733
They also laughed at people who said Gobekli Tepe couldn't exist, or that the pyramids couldn't be as old as some claimed, and they were proven wrong, weren't they?
Science doesn't care about opinion, only evidence matters. People can try to gatekeep and repress as much as they want but the truth always comes out because it can't be denied.
Maybe one day we'll find in situ evidence of agriculture or animal husbandry dating back 100,000 years, I don't know. I think it's more likely than not.

>>507123964
>Okay so they are not forgerys.

i never said that either, i said simply "i dont know but they could be while they bible is the only ancient book that wasnt lost and later rediscovered so its exempt from this speculation singularly in all the universe"

>>507123806
>I automatically know what people really believe.

>>507123807
The gospels weren't written until decades after the fact.

>So Jesus called them together and said, “You know that those regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their superiors exercise authority over them. But it shall not be this way among you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be the slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.”
Mark 10:42-45

slave morality.

>>507124083
For arguments sake I'll select the Illiad. The Illiad is objectively older than the bible. The Illiad is a story that teachs how man should act, how to worship god(s), how men are punished for sins, proper ethics and morality. So pagans do have texts that show them how to live their lives properly. So your argument that pagans dont have any teachings is false.

King of the Jews.

>>507110460 (OP)
>Is paganism a jewish psyop to create division and distraction of hating jews?
No, it not a psyop, the old gods are rising.

>>507124430
Please dont spam, were having a good discussion

>>507121637
Pack up lad, we lost

>>507124083
There's several reasons the Book of Enoch isn't in the Bible. The claim that Enoch authored it is absurd on its surface but it stems from the mostly forgotten tradition of falsely attributed authors that was popular around the Essene's time. Scholars think the Book of Enoch as it's read today is compiled from a bunch of different sources and they might be right there but they'll say that about the Pentateuch too.
I think you're suffering from some bias. If Zoroastrianism or some such became a dominant religion then their texts would never have been "rediscovered." If Mohammed never amounted to much then his Quran would have probably been rediscovered at some point too.

These are all strictly logical arguments though, and the world isn't strictly logical. I think Jesus was real. And I do think whatever Hebrews lived back then were decent historians especially for their time.
I have to go do things, good luck with the thread.

>>507124430
Remember when the olympics had that vid praising Zeus (not the dinner thing), posted it on twitter, and the christians got assmad?

>>507124636
The olmpics had an obese tranny dressed as a greek attending thr last supper, thus mocking both Christians and pagans. Everyone got mad

>>507119432
how long after? how old are those oldest manuscripts V what you have describing the beliefs and worship of the fake greek gods? they were demons and worst...figments of imagination at absolute best.

There are two kinds of people I've seen attracted to these pagan revivalist movements and largely it depends on their actual physical location.
Like for these Greeks, I don't doubt it more springs from an ethnic affinity especially as every church on the planet is getting more liberal with their interpretation of "love thy neighbour". Same goes for Rodnovery in Slavic countries. There's something in the way the churches preach today that just isn't doing it for them and you even see this idea expressed among Christians themselves, where the more traditional minded have to hop from church to church in their denomination to try to look for one that even pretends to eschew modern decay. I know the church I grew up in is completely overwhelmed with third world detritus and I can't even set foot there anymore.
The second kind of pagan, the kind you'll most often find in the west, just hates Christianity and often because they want to be a faggot. Both the pagan leftoid and the pagan nazi types you'll find over here practice as such because they, like almost all other North American Whites, are deracinated and concocting an abstract idea of "ancestry" allows them to project the things they believe today onto this ancestry as the TRUE traditions of their people. Good examples of this are the exaggeration of homosexuality in ancient Greece or American neo-Nazis claiming ownership of the entirety of European history.

>>507124735
I specifically said not the dinner thing.

>>507110460 (OP)
Regardless, it is a tragic larp. No numan of nigger age can embody vitalism of ancient Greek. These people wouldn't jump into volcano. They wouldn't whip the waves. They don't believe the Gods call down lightning.

Bollocks all of it. Its just posing and aesthetic larp. Most Christians are the same, too.

I have met maybe 5 genuinely religious people. Normies were terrified of them. Genuine humans, not homunculi slaves of kike America or dumb schizoid niggers.

Bet they don't use drugs, either.

>>507124760
>guy in robe say other gods demons.

>>507124927
Post a pic because I dont recall. The shit in france was offensive to everyone and should unite both pagan and christian against globohomo

>>507123999
>Yahweh is not the eternal source of all things.
Don't know if you are being ironic,but that is literally what it means
>>507123879
What is Christendom?
>>507123675
>>507125015
What larpagans mean as God and what Christians refer to is fundamentally different,but larpapgans are low iq dunning krugers unable to process abstrate concepts

>>507110460 (OP)
>Religion that doesnt worship jews is a jewish psyop

>>507124820
The larp is particularly tragic in NA. Traditional faiths were built on ancestor cults. Modumbs won't worship their dead boomer granny. Simple fact. Mutts don't even have coherent homogenous racial ancestory. Might as well worship the fucking thunderbird.

>>507124124
>They also laughed at people who said Gobekli Tepe couldn't exist, or that the pyramids couldn't be as old as some claimed, and they were proven wrong, weren't they?


so then we are in agreement that modern archeology gets it wrong and is generally not to be trusted

>>507125093
https://x.com/Olympics/status/1780179503857160307?lang=en
Think this was it.

>>507124415
>For arguments sake I'll select the Illiad. The Illiad is objectively older than the bible.


he Iliad and Odyssey were likely rediscovered during the Renaissance, with the first printed edition of the poems appearing in Florence in 1488

>>507125369
>They think different from me, they're dumb.

>>507124511
>There's several reasons the Book of Enoch isn't in the Bible

you didnt understand my point i was saying that because jesus references the book of enoch in the bible there was likely at some point a real book of enoch but because it was lost to time and "rediscovered" recently there is no way in my view to say beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was the original book of enoch

>>507125777
Checked. Never saw this.

>>507125842
Yes or no is the Illiad a forgery?

>>507125980
i dont know

>>507125842
the oldest fragments are older than the oldest biblical manuscripts and the Iliad is not prose, it's written in meter and has archaic features that wouldn't be known to byzantine greeks let alone renaissance Italians

>>507125842

>>507126022
Well Plato referenced the Illiad many times. Are his writings fake?

>>507126214
>the oldest fragments are older than the oldest biblical manuscripts

my point is that the bibles provinence is the only one that is rock solid being HANDED DOWN and PRESERVED where as all these other books including the fragments were "rediscovered" around the renaiscance/enlightenment era

they COULD have been forged at that time im not saying they were but they could have been my main point is that the bible is the only ancient book that was thusly preserved and handed down and not rediscovered

>>507117458
All that matters, and I mean all that matters, is people understand that consciousness and energy are the foundations of the universe. Electromagnetic energy exists within all things, see >>507122100
People who keep going from god to god, bowing and looking for something to worship, are never going to get it. The point is to become God, to align your consciousness with that higher consciousness that exists within you and everyone else. It's just extremely advanced science handed down by a race of ayys we called the Annunaki. Nothing else matters. I could go make up a new religion right now and use these same underlying themes and id still be right.
You know that's not a bad idea, I'll call it the church of the Cosmic Burger and Ronald McDonald will be the central figure.

>>507126339
completely niggerliciously retarded, to be expected given the flag: manuscripts have to be copied down, ape, they don't magically appear, and that, ipso facto, attests their provenience, especially of texts that unlike the bible which is pidgin tier trash in the originals are in strict meter displaying features so archaic that they go back all the way to the mycenaean period
shut the fuck up please

>>507110460 (OP)
Well, well well, Look who came crawling back.

>>507110460 (OP)
Hail Zeus, Hail Jupiter, Hail Dyeus Pater.

Jews hate when we worship jews!

>>507119610
Wait, kissing a priest's hand is some pagan leftover of this?

>>507110460 (OP)
Hatred in general brings nothing but problems. If you don't speak badly of someone then you don't get new enemies and can benefit from everyone. The system also has such a feature that you can't throw shit at someone and stay with clean hands. This is not so much about karma or a mirror but about destructive energy

>>507125704
>Modumbs won't worship their dead boomer granny.
What's worse is that they consciously reject her for an abstract construct of their own making even though she probably loved them in real life.

>>507110460 (OP)
Ever since christians got the protection of Constantine and subsequently took control of Rome, they've been constantly uppity and insistent on the annihilation of other religions. To see the old pre-kike world finally have the space to breathe and reinvigorate itself is like seeing an ancient tree being rid of a deadly parasite. Of course christians hate this, they think everything that isn't yehoshua is demonic.

>>507118911
>>507119001
These two are the same guy. It changed IP to pretend anybody agrees with him

A bunch of anons have been going on about how pagans no longer have their teachings and are only larping.
So lets ask, what do the christians have?A collection of stories from various ages cobbled together into a book. These stories showing men how to act, behave, worship their god and stories of men to work as examples.

Pagans have this as well in the writings of Homer, Euclid, Plato, Cicero, Aristotole, Hesoid etc. How men should act, what is right and wrong, how to worship and stories of men to hold up as examples of proper and improper behaviour. Celtic, Slavic or Nordic writings are not as abundent but also exist.

1/2

>>507118454
not as lame as worshipping imaginary magic Semites

>>507110460 (OP)
jews are fundamentally pagan

>>507128516
Christians have the living Logos as prophesied by the OLD testament and Plato

>>507128516
So whats left to argue? The value of the writings and the people who followed them.
In this pagans will point to pre Christian Europe and say "see, look what we made"
To counter, Christians will point to Christian Europe and say "see, look what we made."

But this is only comparing Europeans of different time periods. If you examine non European Christians you will find that Christianity isnt worth much.
>well what about non European pagans?
China. Chinese are pagans and have created a civilization that is worthwhile.
>yeah but Indians are pagan
Indians have the IQ of niggers.

2/2

>>507126339
>they never fucked with the Bible
Lmfao

>>507129066
Please define this so were both clear on what you mean

>>507117458
Read Iamblichus. Julian tried to build it out.

>>507129099
the truth is that religion effects behavior much less than people like to believe and that the real difference is in the DNA of europeans compared to other races

>>507111178
The byzantines kept records dumbass.

>>507128516
The Bible has been edited and books added, removed and replaced for various reasons.

Niggerchurch of ETiopiamon has more books in there bible than other churches, for example.

The old Greek works are likely more accurate because there was less reason to niggerfy them. Many are fragmentary, however.

It is also easier to translate from Greek to English than from kike (or kikekin) to american pidgin.

>>507115438
Imagine being this historically illiterate. You shouldn’t be allowed to speak.

>>507129181
I will agree with this. So the best thing to do is compare the quality of life Pagan Europeans and Christian Europeans.

And one group let hordes of niggers, jews and jeets in. The other did not. I think we both know which is which.

>>507114823
Into the bog with him. There, simple.

>>507129361
Of pagans*

>>507129146
you are saying that Christianity can be simplified down to a collection of stories but you are ignoring the wider context of philosophical thought at the time and how pivotal Christianity was to the development of human consciousness on a global level, salvation through the individual was in a very experimental phase prior to Christ, he perfected it while fulfilling Plato's prophecy of the crucified prophet and the Old Testament.
there is a multi thousand year narrative that Christianity perfectly fulfills, you could argue that the writers of the Bible knew this and simply wrote the story around it - which is possible. But the effect is the same.

>>507129066
Uh huh.

>>507129361
Powerful utilitarian argument.

I have seen nigger loving 'pagans', however, they have a subreddit. Also, dalit/sepoy worshippers exist.

>>507120475
Those epistles are known to be fake.

Peter is based on Simon Bar Giora who was crucified as king of the Jews because he was the retarded last man standing when the temple was breached and he took the purple cloak of royalty for himself but it was worthy of being mocked.
Jospehus (bar Matityahu AKA Joseph of Arimathea) had bar Giora taken down so he would survive until Titan’s triumph in Rome.
Bar Giora was thrown from the Tarpaien Rock so he ways remembered as Cephas.
There were no Christians in Rome. It was brought there by Titus’s cousin the “third pope” in coordination with the Herodian family.
Bar Giora was a younger brother of James and Thaddeus so he was considered part of the holy family. This is why he was Rome’s first Christian martyr and laughably upheld as a pope

>>507129361
you're retarded
the hordes are a weapon of the jew, waged specifically against Christian nations - not because they are aryan but because the Christian/aryan overlap is so strong that it may as well be the same thing
Freya = Jesus
europeans weren't pagans, they practiced salvation through the individual

>>507119001
Why follow a religion that vassalizes you and makes you into a shield and carrier of it, your purpose being to spread it to others, be they nigger, retard, or even jew. I prefer a set of beliefs that work in concert with nature, and which can be used to protect and nurture my people. Yours seems to have it backwards

is christianity a jewish psyop to create division and loving of jews?

>>507126217
they were rediscovered around 1488 you are quoting some guy im quoting the wiki

>>507129804
Kike sends nigger hordes to japon and Korea.

Pre-Christian europe was rooted in ancestor worship, and widely believed in 'fate'. Not "salvation through the individual" which sounds like Yankee tier larp.

>>507129135
i never claimed that

>>507129561
Are you saying the authors I mentioned have no philosophical thought? Really?
>salvation through the individual
I reject the idea that one man can remove all wrong doing for all time. If you commit a crime that is immoral or not ethical you are responsible for that crime and it is insane to me that a man dead 2000 years can absolve that.

>>507128047
>These two are the same guy. It changed IP to pretend anybody agrees with him

you are right those are the same guy i didnt realize even my IP changed, my ISP is verizon it just does that sometimes

>>507129804
Yes yes all of Europes gods are actually jesus in disguise. And you call pagans larpers

>>507129670
>Those epistles are known to be fake

i simply dont believe that they are and this is a side conversation that has nothing to do with my point which is that the bible is the only ancient book that was preserved and handed down and not lost and later rediscovered

>>507130086
>wiki
Lol. Lmao.

>>507129870
>Why follow a religion that vassalizes you and makes you into a shield and carrier of it, your purpose being to spread it to others, be they nigger, retard, or even jew.


i came not but for the lost sheep of the house of israel

>>507130267
>>wiki
>Lol. Lmao.


the wiki at least demands a source beyond "some dude on quora said"

>>507129804
How did the jew get into Europe and gain power? Also, is it Pagans in office who vote for laws against antisemtism? Is it pagans who vote to arm jews in Asia? Is it pagans who send young men to war in defence of jews?
No. Its Christians.

>>507126520
>completely niggerliciously retarded, to be expected given the flag:

your house is awfully glass to be throwing those stones guissuppe

>>507110460 (OP)
>Modern Christians are known for their hatred of Jews

>>507130456
im a modern christian and i despise kikes

jacob anthony mcqueen nice to meet you

>>507130451
>tp
>tf
every. single. time.
the land of 0 self-awareness

>>507118454
Thanks for spreading Jewish misinformation

Quick let's all worship Yahweh and his dead Jewish son instead, that will show those tricky kikes

>>507119338
Sincerity has nothing to do with it stupid. Neopaganism is retarded. If it’s anything more than just a dumb youthful phase rooted in ignorance then you’re retard. Whether you’re sincere or not is irrelevant.

>>507130336
Oh, NOW you're worried about sources? You've done nothing but assert assert assert this whole damn thread, but now you're gonna talk about sources. And "some dude" has a degree in classics. So, are you going to post a link? A screenie? A quote? Anything?

>>507130565
Tbf the god of kikes is the shekel.

>>507118251

>>507130627
>This is retarded because I say it's retarded.

>>507111178
They kept no records because the barbarian invaders were illiterate, uncivilized, and knew only violence. It took Europe a long time to rebuild civilization. Rome's population didn't recover until the 20th century.

>>507130297
>no true christian
Who are the true christians? There are multiple nigger saints, are they in heaven?

>>507130515
here is me, im white, how about you

>>507130901
i never said that i simply said im a christain and i hate kikes, jacob anthony mcqueen how do you do?

>>507131001
Not to me you didn't. you quoted Matthew 15:24 in response to my statement that christianity spreads like a disease to every biped it can find, the more unworthy the better. Unless you're a derailing shill (you are), you could respond like a non retard and say what you mean, so as to not be misinterpreted

>>507110460 (OP)
OP is a faggot and assumes that Christianity is a Bulwark against the Jews. It is not, on a long enough timeline the Christians will always try again to convert and integrate the Jew and will always fail to do so. Christianity dooms us to a cycle of attempted conversion and expulsion of the Jew when we should just destroy them.

>>507131256
>you look like this

actually i dont

>>507130911
>>507122201
>>507120626

>>507131363
Is this facefagging? Powerful counter against being called a nigger if pic is true.

>>507131363
>addresses nothing
>LOOK AT ME
cool, so you *are* in fact a derailing shill that thinks this is your blog. No one cares what you look like, I know that drives you crazy but it's true. All that matters is you're promoting christianity and avoiding any and all points presented to you. Good job poisoning the well on christianity to any lurker here

>>507110460 (OP)
ich auch var in arcadian

>>507114355
>the magic Semite that walks on water is real goys.
Kill yourself Jew

>>507131713
NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT IGNORE MY POINT! YOU HAVE TO REFUTE IIITTTTT!!!!

>>507110460 (OP)
The only way to answer such an idiotic and absurd question properly would be for you to sit directly on top of a knife you filthy subhuman kike rat.

>>507131713
i addressed your meme which depicts christians as mutts when my face is visible throughout the thread and yours isnt

i bet if we saw your face it would be clear from it that you arent 100 percent white. the text of your post was nonsense it didnt warrant a response

>>507131685
>Is this facefagging? Powerful counter against being called a nigger if pic is true.

thats why i do it, because the kikes project constantly and i just go well im jacob anthony mcqueen here is my face now you go!

they never do lmao

>>507130509
i see your ban finally lifted, are you done crying about it on tumblr?

>>507110460 (OP)
BIGGER!
MOAR!
>>507115438
The greek gods are archetypes.
Apollo is the embodiment of logic for instance.
One of his sons is the practice of medicine.
Night's daughter is chaos.
You worship them through practice of medicine or logical thought.
That is what takes place in the temples.

>>507123999
Someone lied to you anon, stop repeating falsehoods

>>507132782
i never cried about it anywhere but i do document it because its highly unusual

and it is evidence what im saying is probably true if its too spicy even for 4chan

>>507111873
Why should we worship any gods? Obviously the jewish god isn't real but I don't see the pagan ones doing anything either.

>>507133229
>why should I thank my parents for feeding and clothing me?
Once you realize what God is then you instinctively want to thank and praise Him all the time

>>507133229
You don't want to be logical?
You worship Pan by mere existance as an animal.
Greek gods are the expression of the human condition.

>>507133229
Worship of something is very human. You surely have ideals. Representing said ideals as a god is very sophisticated behaviour.

Basically everyone has some 'religious thinking'. Consider reddit atheist fedora tipping to nigger scientist man big bang talk.

>>507110460 (OP)
Christians worship a Jew as God. They believe Israel is the Holy Land. They believe the Jews are God's chosen people. They allowed the Jews to live in their lands for more than two millennia without ever exterminating them. The American ones even mutilate their own children to imitate the Jews. Christianity is Judaism for the Goyim.

>>507110460 (OP)
>is a religious framework that predates judaism a jewish psyop?
Polish education

>>507133719
>Christians worship a Jew as God.

jesus christ was racially white and was killed by mongrels larping as jews because he called them on it

you are using a memeflag

>>507133730
hitler directly said it was a jewish psyop and that in real life "pagans" were the woefullest poltroons (cowards) imaginable in mein kampf

>>507133878
Jesus, king of Israel through David's line, came for the jews to dispel their belief in the noble lie.
European religions were much more organic but we have had our Romeo and Juliet moments.
Apollo dispels the noble lie through simple logic.

>>507134155
>Jesus, king of Israel through David's line

And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance

>>507130456
to be fair, evangelicals aren't Christians
they believe the old testament applies to them, which is rabbidly antichrist, and fundamentally jewish
basically, they're like masons, who're dumb enough to believe they're some sort of honorary jews
justsaiyan.tiff

>>507130749
It’s retarded because it’s retarded. First of all you talk to these so called pagans about their beliefs and where they get them from and you realize it’s almost entirely a manufactured aesthetic. They get their impressions literally from pop media rather than inheritance or scholarship. They don’t know shit about these rituals, beliefs, anything and they approach them with a basically retarded “bearded sky daddy but based” impression that’s based on nothing real. The small handful which are a bit more intellectual and base in on scholarship do so misguidedly since they couldn’t explain o you how doing so is any different from imagining you are part of an Egyptian cult. Somehow one is valid and the other isn’t and they come up with all kinds of literally made up blood memory race-based religious stuff that has fuck all to do with paganism to justify one but not the other. Almost all of them are just as bad with strawmanning Christianity as run of the mill atheists or they just lie about history worse than Nietzsche did. I mean, it’s retarded for so many reasons and that’s just really perfectly obvious for any thinking person. The people who become pagans and stay pagans are morons. There’s a reason it attracts white trash and retarded neo Nazis mainly. It’s because these people are often dumb. Let’s just be real.

>>507132675
>If it has nothing to do with my face, it doesn't warrant a response
Describe in what way it was nonsense. I say again, what could you mean in quoting Matthew15:24 in response to someone saying that christianity seeks to vassalize all men? Elaborate your point
>>507132369
That's generally how good faith works, or is faith not your thing, my brother in christ?

>>507134241
David and Solomon moloched their first borns to Yahweh.
They were of Canaanite heritage.
My God is the God of Abraham and of Moses.

>>507134633
>>If it has nothing to do with my face, it doesn't warrant a response
>Describe in what way it was nonsense.

it just wasnt interesting you were like "you didnt reference this part of matthew" and then a bunch of your own assertions it wasnt interesting i didnt feel like any thing you said resembled a point that warranted a response which is crazy because i respond to virtually everything

you cant have essentially multiple unrelated arguments in one post and get mad that i choose to address what i felt most compelled to respond to thats what you get for gish galluping

>>507134698
>David and Solomon moloched their first borns to Yahweh

based on what? you are guessing

>>507110460 (OP)
Jews want to eliminate Christianity. That being said we aren't getting all of you back so it doesn't have to be something that divides Whites. We no longer have the luxury of holy wars anymore and religion has divided our people enough time in history. Let's revisit this after Muslims, Jews, Hindus and other fucked up religions including Christian Zionism have no influence in White countries.

>>507134775
Yeah, we hold the power here. These rats scurry about making bad arguments, but in all truth, they're not threatening. Our arguments are memes sweeping through the world. There arguments are... here... getting ignored kek.

>>507110460 (OP)
There is nothing in paganism that can be construed as anti-semitic though, that's one reason jews promote it. They hate Christianity and it has always held them in check. That's why they were behind the scenes manipulating Vatican II to change the Church's position for 2000 years that the jews murdered Christ and the blame primarily goes to them, not the Romans. As the bible explains.

>>507134974
love to see it

>>507110460 (OP)
No but fighting about religion is.

>>507111178
This is false in a hundred different ways
>History of the Goths by Jordanes
>History of the Lombards by Isidore of Seville
>Ecclesiastical History of the English People by Bede
>Patrologia Latina volumes 64 to 130
>Patrologia Graeca volumes 47 to 105

>>507135049
pagans represent .3 percent of the united states and of that point three percent fully half identify as lgbt.


its not pagans coming here pushing paganism but kikes

>>507134815
Read the bible.
They just "died"

>>507135075
they didn't write much though, especially when compared to rome/greece from previous centuries... just look at how much Galen alone wrote compared to the entire output during the dark ages, and how many texts the early christian church destroyed

>>507135204
>Read the bible.
>They just "died"

ok so you dont believe the biblical account from where do you get the idea they were sacrificed to moloch? are you guessing?


they did not just die btw davids son was taken from him as punishment for stealing his generals wife and having his general killed to try and cover his adultery

>>507135164
ive also seen kikes write articles linking paganism to white nationalism, and we all know how much kikes hate white people who care about their country

>>507135164
The local churches here hang their flag.
Most lgbt are christian.
Most wicca practice is based in christianity and judaism.

>>507135303
hey thats great

you see thor blood and thunder? i thought it was AWESOME!!!

>>507135365
marvel slop is just that, slop

>>507134775
I made no assertions, I want to know what your assertion is in your response. You have made no arguments, and explicitly refuse to make any when asked. You have more posts itt than anyone, and have yet to argue for christianity as it relates to Whites. You are here to shill, to split hairs, to run anons around in circles.
>>507135164
You are wrong

>>507135352
>Most lgbt are christian.

thats only true because MOST AMERICANS are christian

but an atheist is literaly 5 times more likely to identify as lgbt than a christian

>>507111178
Yes, the catholic church truly had iron-fisted rule over Greece.
Preach, champ.

>>507135302
Exodus 13:2

>>507134332
>its retarded because I say its retarded, but with more words.

>>507135352
Do you live in Palm Springs?

>>507110460 (OP)
No it's actually pretty based

Ofc it'll make mixed-race mutts (Americans, etc.) cope and seethe because they don't have any ancestry to be proud of

>>507119127
Hitler lost his war, and Germans are all pro-Israel now lol cuck

>>507135404
>marvel slop is just that, slop

marvel slop is the only shit kikes are spending money on and that has been the case for the past decade or so, and thor is one of the main characters, not featured, jesus christ

>>507135459
No, middle of iowa.

>>507110460 (OP)
Considering that many pagan religions existed before Jews and Judaism were a thing... Probably not.

>>507135365
And when you do take a dig, it's weak shit like
>muh comics!
I can see why you do your best to not actually engage

>>507131256
>>507135407

i misread your intitial post thats on me but im dealing with family drama as well as handfeeding starlings
my point is if you read the bible it is RACIAL from beginning to end and ultimately most white people are of gods sheep some arent, most nonwhite people are not of gods flock some are

ultimately the fruit of the spirit determines from which tree you descend a mans deeds, but race is still very important and real in both the old and new testament its nuanced but race realism is itself nuanced what with per capita and so on

>>507135408
There's zero logic in lgbt.
It's logically bad in Pythagoreanism.
It's narcissism, hedonistic, destruction.
But somehow christians invite them into theor temples.

>>507135644
to point out that the only slop hollywood kikes are spending money on for the past ten years features a god of the pagan pantheon as a main character is not weak, its weak to pretend like that doesnt imply what it clearly implies
comic books were ALWAYS a kike thing and so is hollywood what hollywood and comics promote you know kikes are promoting you are playing stupid

go ahead and post the handful of christian films that were made in the last fifty years in a MAJORITY christian nation and ignore that most of them were independently produced in the first place

>>507135851
>But somehow christians invite them into theor temples.


jews are what make people accept homosexuality not christians and christians were consistently the last and most ardent hold outs against things like homosexuality that kikes were pushing


the bible in both the old and new testament STRONGLY condemns homosexuality

>>507136013
Not anymore.
The interpretation has changed.

>>507136013
Now, all are welcome.
To pay tithe and worship Yahweh's son.
Whos message you ignore.

>>507131256
Wait, is there really a Bible verse that calls Adam the son of God?

That's nuts man, I thought the whole point is that Jesus is his ONLY begotten son? Why is the book written by Jews so full of contradic--ope, actually think I just answered my own question there lolol

>>507135519
Why does Iowa have so many gay churches?

>>507136314
Omaha and Mineapolis too.

>>507136110
>Not anymore.
>The interpretation has changed.

no it hasnt the text is plain and not up for interpretation

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

>>507135704
It's still immaterial if 70% of your religion are non White, and more than 70% of the Whites that follow that religion encourage this universalism. It is not a belief system that can protect White interests or principles.
>>507135863
Yeah, jews like to shit all over White culture. They absolutely portray the gods as weak, stupid, Thor is comedy relief, fucks sake they even destroy Asgard and make the racially diverse Asgardians (that's real) into literal refugees. You can see jewish disdain, anger, and fear of all Aryan religions in how they are always depicted as either retarded savages, weaselly tricksters, or satanic (ironic)

>>507136238
>Now, all are welcome.

anyone can say whatever they want, a man who worships not zeus but jesus can call himself a pagan that doesnt make him a pagan, the texts are clear


26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

>>507110460 (OP)
Nigger

>>507136448
>It's still immaterial if 70% of your religion are non White,

not really many will come to jesus on that day and say lord lord have i not cast out devils in your name? and he will say unto them depart from me ye workers of iniquity i never knew you and they will be cast into the outer darkness where there is a wailing and a gnashing of teeth


those africans will say they are scientologists if that is what it takes to garner a bowl of rice and then will proceed to murder and rape each other doing the will of their father

we have a foundational text if you dont do what it says you arent christian no matter what you claim to be

>>507136411
>love thy neighbor
>crusades are justified.
Do not be so fearful.
Pythagoreans are pacifist.

>>507136448
>Thor is comedy relief

thor is the hero of the only movie franchise hollywood is willing to throw money at and is the star of several spin off films and is the strongest avenger


jesus isnt even a member of the avengers lmao

Physically anyway.

>>507136656
>>love thy neighbor
>>crusades are justified.


you know the bible always includes "thy neighbor" or some other similar qualifier after the commandments to love one another how come?

because in the greek it means racial kinsmen

>>507136367
They still aren't the majority of churches, I looked up a few of the gay denominations I know and probably about the same number of Missouri Synod Lutherans. That's one denomination vs United Methodist + Episcopalian + Unitarian + ELCA

>>507136836
>United Methodist + Episcopalian + Unitarian + ELCA
Thoes are the churches the flag is on.

>>507136809
The greeks weren't even a single race.
Nor had the concept.
Tribe sure.
You had to love a Spartan or they'd kill you.

>>507136897
Yeah, that's what happens when they get into the denominations leadership and start writing doctrine.

>>507136710
>yeah who cares if they make a mockery of the gods, their people, their nature, and subvert it all to shit. His name is in the title so jews must love him
Are you serious?
>>507136633
>yeah, demographics don't matter, book says it'll all be right in the end
Lol ok you aren't serious, see you next thread. Make sure your pics have time stamps next time

>>507136809
I also eat beans.
My scripture is wisdom.
The changing logic.

>>507135164
Who is it that let kikes in?

>>507134332
>white trash and retarded neo Nazis
||>

>>507137039
>The greeks weren't even a single race.
>Nor had the concept.
>Tribe sure.
>You had to love a Spartan or they'd kill you.


countrymen is essentially a racial kinsmen
https://biblehub.com/greek/4139.htm

1. (adverbially) close by
2. (as noun) a neighbor, i.e. fellow (as man, countryman, Christian or friend)


jesus himself even specified what he meant by BROTHER


"who is my mother and who is my brother?" then he gestured to the multitude stood about him "these are my mother and my brothers those who do the will of my father in heaven"

>>507137109
>kikes are promoting paganism by making pagan heros in the only blockbusters they are still producing and on television like in vikings but they are subverting them thats why they are called super heros its to mock them

>>507137236
Who let the kikes in? Who gave them power?

>>507137109
That one is correct.
People start to worship groups you wipe out.
Like the jews.
You can try to erase them but it doesn't work.
Conversion works.
Convert the jews to christianity if your god is real.
Without moloching the sons of David to Yahweh.
As Christ commanded.

>>507137109
>Lol ok you aren't serious, see you next thread. Make sure your pics have time stamps next time

ive provided several timestamps over the last year its never good enough for you kikes

>>507137207
>Who is it that let kikes in?

who WOULD it be who let kikes in to a christian nation? and who would it be that kicked them out?

>>507135213
>they didn't write much though
I've been trying to study Mazdaean history, and it is so much worse. There are entire centuries where nobody knows what the true state of Iranian religion actually was. (BTW, Apollo = Morning-planet-Mercury = Al-Ilah.) The majority of Arabs were "Sumerian Heptatheists" long before Islam rolled in.
>how many texts the early christian church destroyed
Fewer than the Anatolian languages destroyed by the Greeks and the Etruscan languages destroyed by the Romans and the Paleo-Sardinian languages destroyed by the Amazigh and the Burashaski languages destroyed by the Elamo-Dravidians

>>507137419
Answer the question

>>507137347
>Convert the jews to christianity if your god is real.

jesus himself said they cannot be converted because they arent white and have no place for truth in them

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

>>507137472
>Answer the question

i did

who WOULD let kikes into a christian nation (only christians in a christian nation so that leaves them) i responded and who was it who ejected them and the answer again is christians as it logically would be in a christian nation