Thread 507325911

Being fat is primarily a mental problem

>>507325911 (OP)
this is actually true

>>507325911 (OP)
just stop eatin' all that cake

sigmund freud here.
this is true.
being morbidly obese usually means that your mother didnt love you enough, or maybe she loved you too much. either way they just eat non stop to chase after that feeling of being loved.

it's primarily a problem caused by not getting off your ass

>>507325911 (OP)
Thinking fat is bad is a mental problem

>>507325911 (OP)
True. Bring back fat shaming as a normalized public practice.
It's not that hard to find the resolve to make a bunch of small seemingly minor changes that pay off long term.

>>507326318
t. lardass
put the coke down

>>507325911 (OP)
Food is the only sweet thing in life.

Most modern ailments are mental problems. Trans, faggots, fatties, cucks etc are all mental illnesses.

what else would it be? you don't become 400 lbs by accident

>>507325911 (OP)
Being a little fat is primarily a poisoned food problem

I went from 115 to 98, doing nothing, but I'm bouncing from 98 to 98.5 constantly.
I might have to actually start doing physical exercises at this point.

>>507326349
I realized that being fat is actually a good thing it makes you scary and powerful. Little skinny twerps don't like fat people because it's a way to get really strong with zero effort and it makes them upset that all their effort is defeated by this guy who just eats pancakes

>>507326318
Shut up you libtard scum, the last 20 years have been all about "accept this disgusting thing or you are disgusting" well fuck that. IT'S OVER, the guilting doesn't work anymore.

>>507326213
head like a fucking orange

>>507326447
>Being fat makes you scary and powerful
Lmao. Don't trip over your legs fatso. To defeat you all anyone has to do is take a jog around you and throw rocks at your head.

>>507326432
>I went from 115 to 98, doing nothing, but I'm bouncing from 98 to 98.5 constantly.
Have you tried fasting?

>>507326832
I already eat very little to nothing, how do you think I went from 115 to 98 almost instantly?

>>507326698
But the fat person can just instantly pull a magnum out of his giant belly fat pocket and headshot you.

>>507326318
Fat and ugly jew.

>>507326860
Feast for a day or two while excercising heavily and taking caffeine pills and then return to fasting. Your metabolism has slowed down and adjusted to limited calorie intake. You need to shake it a bit so it winds up again.

>>507326860
have you tried doing a 30 day phase of keto

>>507326910
Even worse, since there is zero excuse to be fat in that case and it makes you look like shit.

>>507325911 (OP)
obesity is primarily a dietary fat problem.
Abstain from fat, eat starch and fiber, and you will be thin.

>>507325911 (OP)
>Being fat is primarily a mental problem
yes

>>507327030
>keto
No, I care about my cardiovascular health now, that's why I've started to mind my weight. I've indulged a bit in meat as of late, but I generally try to avoid any saturated fat, even from non-animal sources.
>>507327009
This is what my intuition told me as well, and I know I had to pick up exercising anyway, and keep it a lifelong habit, because I risk much more regarding cardiovascular health by not doing that. It's a both/and, not an either/or, concerning diet and exercising.

>>507327139
Short 2-3 km runs at leisurely tempo a few times a week aren't heavy on the heart while maintaining it's health and upgrading your metabolism. Bonus is that you don't get too tired from them so it's easier to motivate yourself.

>>507325911 (OP)
i consumed edibles and drank alot, and my friends said i was an addict. this past week, i decided to consume nothing but water, black coffee, and chicken broth. i drank water and black coffee throughout the day, and had 4 cups of chicken broth as my "meal" at lunch. i didnt consume edibles. i didnt drink. i had no cravings. the hunger pangs went away after day two. i did it to prove a point. addiction isnt real, its all in your mind, and most of you are just soft-willed faggots.

>>507327139
>No, I care about my cardiovascular health now, that's why I've started to mind my weight. I've indulged a bit in meat as of late, but I generally try to avoid any saturated fat, even from non-animal sources.
It's just a 30 day phase, not a permanent change.
Go 30 days eating nothing but ground turkey for protein, and avocado and almonds for fat, taking 1 multivitamin every day to avoid any deficiency. You'll look and feel really good.

>>507325911 (OP)
There's also a bodily component. Some get fatter easier than others, and some need to be a little more fat than others in order to be healthy.

Nobody needs to be as fat as this woman, though.

Purely genetic factors.

>>507327009
>fast/slow metabolism
you dont need to do all of this, those pre workouts and huge cans of energy drinks will blow your heart out! metabolism speed is a meme and i have scientific proof. you just stick with whatever diet / eating pattern that works best for losing weight. it just takes time.
i was using weed edibles daily for a long time, and without fail it would kick in at an hours mark on the dot, 60 minutes. wether i was fat, lazing around, doing a hypertrophy focused routine, 20% bodyfat or 15% bodyfat, eating frequently, eating infrequently, doing a jogging routine (or not) it always kicked in at 60 minutes. you need to start digesting fatty food for those things to work. there is so much anxiety in the fitness community.
>if i dont do X i’ll lose literally all my muscle in like 2 weeks time bro!
>i gotta do this and that or i wont progress bro!
>do this insane cocktail of caffeine and god knows what bro! the shits means you’re losing weight!
relax. the body is not THAT plyable. it takes time to change the actual shape and form of your body. that goes both ways, to lose muscle and gain muscle. the only easy thing is putting fat on, and even some people struggle with that and are perma skelly

>>507327638
>you dont need to do all of this, those pre workouts and huge cans of energy drinks will blow your heart out!
Point to where I said that. Damn you are dumber than AI

>>507327487
her entire face is covered in razor bumps because she has a full beard.
a lot of fat women cry that they're fat because they have polycystic ovaries, when it's actually backwards. they have polycystic ovaries because they're fat.

>>507325911 (OP)

..more a coping mechanism. helps to a point. a snack isn't a problem until too much snacking is itself a problem..

>>507327440
Hmm.
I've heard that MCT oil drinks can induce the production of ketones in one’s body, even while not being on a low-carb diet, one could use that instead of any meat.
I would have to buy one of the urine measuring devices, tho. Very lazy when it comes to ordering anything.

>>507327357
>few days
>addiction isn't real
you're in for a rude awakening.
>>507327139
do what that anon told you and run a few times a week for a start.

>>507325911 (OP)
Living in Athens is a mental issue too

>>507327816
>… and taking caffeine pills
it’s okay Przemysław i drink in the morning and forget things too

fat people should have one hand cut off to shame them and make it harder to stuff food in their faces

>>507327487
jewsus christ.. these are the people that say " i basically eat nothing all day, why am i getting fat?"

>>507325911 (OP)
It's actually a calorie problem.

>>507325911 (OP)
Mental how good chips taste.

>>507326448
Just because you're very upset doesn't make it an obligation. Ireland has, like, three trannies? And one of them is just a punch drunk Traveller they put in a dress as a joke.

Food isn't what it was. Getting fat took athletic dedication in my day. Now every amateur is at it.

>>507327859
>I've heard that MCT oil drinks can induce the production of ketones in one’s body, even while not being on a low-carb diet, one could use that instead of any meat.
mct oil is just highly refined coconut oil designed to take your money. you might as well just eat 1 spoon of coconut oil per day if you want to take that route.
I don't do that because I don't like eating oil.

>>507325911 (OP)
fat women are no different from tattoo'd and dyed hair women, it's a warning to all males to stay away, they will not offer you healthy offspring, let alone compliment your life in any way even if she has a "sweet personality"(she needs it to attract a male, proof that women are easily manipulated cattle niggers)

>>507327987
>jewsus christ.. these are the people that say " i basically eat nothing all day, why am i getting fat?"
they think the vegetables they eat somehow cancel out the slop calories.
>how did that burger and fries make me fat??? I ate a salad too!!! Look at that broccoli next to it!!!

>>507327987
Many such cases.

>>507327922
What a hysterical and hyperbolic way to treat the equivalent of an espresso. Are you a woman by chance?

>>507328226
Nah they ain't the same bruv
Cutting out enegry drinks significantly improved my health
I happily still drink coffee regularly
Nowhere near the sleep disruption, gut upset and literal change to mood

>>507328662
We were talking about pure caffeine pills.

>>507328064
>twice (sometimes more) the mmol/L per the same quantity
>generates ketones regardless of what you eat - ordinary coconut oil does not reliably have this effect
but
>cost is more than twice that of ordinary coconut oil
might as well say fuck off to all saturated fats, nothing of value would be lost

I mean would be more expensive but way better than consuming meat using MCT oil, but I might as well let go of this lol.

>>507328730
>>507328730
>generates ketones regardless of what you eat
ketones don't magically make you lose weight.
when you go on an extended fast, your body breaks your own fat down into ketones. so the ketones in your blood are an indicator that you are burning a lot of fat.

MCT oil breaks down into ketones when you digest it. So yeah you'll have ketones in your blood, but they are no indication that you're burning your own fat.

From a metabolic perspective, they're "fake" ketones, in the sense that they don't mean anything about fat loss.

>>507328958
>ketones don't magically make you lose weight.
This wasn't the topic to be fair but I see how you would get fixated on that.

>>507325911 (OP)
The last time i went to a movie theatre on the weekend it was with a few friends to see john wick 4. When i was walking to my seat i scanned the room real quick. Every female in the theare was fat, every single one except for one girl working there at the popcorn and snack stand. Every other woman there was a fat fucking lard blob, even the ones i saw getting tickets for other movies outside, all of them, fat fat fat. This one random popcorn girl that had a normal looking body and average face looked like the hottest thing that could possibly exist in that building, surrounded by all the fats, she would be forgetable at any other point in history, but ill never forget what she looked like, because on that day she was the lone human in a world full of fats. I dont care if its a mental problem, its sickening and needs to end.

>>507329017
yeah sorry for going off topic. anyways, eat some avocados.

>>507328721
>hurrr dude this lab made distilled, chemically produced powder is totally the same thing as a crushed bean drink
i think it’s too late bros, the vodka and caffeine has lowered his IQ too much

Keto causes malnutrition unless you take sports grade vitamin and metal complex. Best way to lose fat is by limiting caloric intake and replacing the reduced portion volume with fresh vegetables while doing light physical activity. Keto has exactly 0 perks that would justify it compared to what I described, unless you are a bodybuilder and need to do that final cut quickly to expose muscle.

>>507325911 (OP)
Fat people cause a ridiculous amount of problems in our society and the majority of the population is overweight in many western countries.
>reduces the availability of average looking women (fat women are ALWAYS below average): sexual marketplace is skewed
>strain on healthcare system: everyone pays more because of fat people
>they aren't able to do physical labor properly: "we need more immigration"
>they eat more unhealthy foods and therefore more unhealthy foods are produced at a cheaper price: economies of scale
>public transportation, airplanes, housing, cinemas and more, must be adjusted to a fatter populace: we pay more for the same things
I hate fat people.

>>507329259
Hey, I'm not the one who went into a hysterical rant about bursting hearts over a suggestion to take caffeine and excercise for two days. Check your testosterone levels.
Maybe you are better off taking estrogen pills instead of caffeine pills mate.

>>507325911 (OP)
As someone who in the past two years got fat, it's pure laziness. Anyone else who tells you otherwise is a coping retard.

>>507329470
yeah yeah yeah you’re on a fitness kick, good for you, i was there about 5 years ago. i at least know about absorption rates and research what goes into my body.

>>507329542
>research what goes into my body
Yeah, I'm sure you are a nigger dick expert.

>>507329585
>polak immediately goes to gay interracial butt rape

>>507329585
You're a knob.

>>507329272
If you’re addicted to sugar and carbs just say it, you don’t need to justify your addiction with bullshit statements like “muh 0 nutrition” lmao

>>507329680
Look at the website address nigger, maybe reddit will be more suitable for your gentle sensibilities.

>>507329784
imagine your parents reading you talk about gay nigger dicks

>>507325911 (OP)
That's Tyrone's favorite snack.

>>507325911 (OP)
And all whites are mentally ill. Therefore all problems come from wipepo

>>507329864
It's okay, I know you live with your parents buy they aren't here to scold you for potty talk. Quit being a pussy and grow a pair of balls.

>>507326318
The problem being too healthy and well adjusted?

>>507326318
Spotted the fattie

>>507327487
I will argue that there's something in the food that's not natural. It's impossible to get so bad just by over eating

>>507326382
The jew is behind this. This is all directly linked to the jew. You do your research and you figure it‘s the usual suspects. Who normalized all the fag shit? Jews. Who imported the brown trash into our white Masterrace nations? The jew.

>>507329272
Fun fact about keto, the weight you lose so rapidly at the beginning is just lost water weight that you will regain once you introduce carbs again. Any dietary change with weight loss in mind will cause weight loss if adhered to so I wouldn't say keto is good but if it's the only thing that works for you then go for it.
I tried keto for a week out of curiosity, it's not for me because I do physical labor, the performance loss is significant and your muscles get tired way faster because of the lack of glycogen (stored carbs) in the muscles. In my opinion it's only really for sedentary people with office jobs.

people who are fat need someone who cares about them enough to tell them they are killing themselves, if you care about them and they care about you they will reverse course and try to be healthier

>>507326279
having a hard time believing you're Freud because your advice did not include a scoop of cocaine in the butthole thrice daily

>>507329680
You two should breed your argue like a married couple of fags

>>507325911 (OP)
Dat a 'uuuuge bitch!
Sheeeeeeiiiit

>>507325911 (OP)
No, it's primarily being fat.

>>507326032
I look at fat women in disgusted downward scanning fashion just enough to make them feel bad and undesirable for the rest of the day

>>507330776
wanna join in

>>507328209
>what I eat as a fat person on a diet
>videos is 5 hours long

>>507327638
This. Metabolism is a meme.

>>507330275
Notice how almost every single meal is processed crap with a lot of fats/oils and sugar.
>1: refined carbs with added sugar and oils/fats
>2: highly processed chocolate snack (refined carbs + fats)
>3: yop yogurt drink (a lot of added sugar, basically coke)
>4: oversized sandwich + processed snack (highly processed bun, probably with a ton of mayo, very little leafy greens)
>5: fries + some refined cabs with cheese (a lot of refined carbs + oils/fat)
>6: oversized ice cream (loads of sugar and fats)
>7: some vegetables which seems to be slathered in oil (not sure) + sandwich with something fried (croquettes?) and a bit of greens (tons of oils and refined carbs, probably her most healthy meal of the day kek)
Yeah, I'm not surprised she's an obese sow.

>>507325911 (OP)
I never understood being fat. You have to be incredibly weak to be addicted to food. Maybe fat people should try heroin to get perspective. I have zero sympathy for fatty-boom-batties.

>>507328209
for people to document their boring lives on social media like this they have to have a mindset that they are the greatest most charismatic person ever. Disgusting levels of vanity. A normal person would say to themselves "I doubt strangers on the internet give a fuck what I eat"

>>507327638
>all that text
just drink water and eat soups and stews once a day, retarded nigger

>>507326306
Nah I had a coworker who was fat and used to be skinny and he blamed being disabled for transformation. I call bullshit because I was disabled once for 4 years and I didn't balloon up. In fact I lost weight. Just don't stuff your fat fucking face. That's it. Simple.

>>507331011
Does it work?

>>507326910
Lol

>>507326447
LMAO

>>507325911 (OP)
It's a downward spiral, they feel low energy and depressed so they eat shitty food to feel happier, the shitty food they eat makes them feel low energy and depressed.

>>507327106
It is actually mostly a PUFA, antinutrient, and phytotoxin problem because those things wreck your metabolism by disrupting your body's ability to absorb nutrients from food which causes you to have an insatiable appetite.

>>507325911 (OP)
Being fat is genetics, you do not choose to be fat.

>>507325911 (OP)
It's true.
Most obesity is due to poor lifestyle, depression, adhd, etc. These are very common in the USA because our infrastructure, food, and culture are terrible. When people move abroad they generally lose weight & have better mental health. It's actually depressing going from a decent European city to an paved hellscape.
People with ADHD generally lose massive amounts of weight after starting stimulant medication. The health risks of obesity are worse than taking those meds btw. A lot of those obese people have binge eating disorder.

>>507326306
If they're not getting off their ass despite the extreme health risks of obesity they have a mental health issue.

>>507331733
oops i thought this was blump saying "Wrong"

>>507325911 (OP)
>primarily mental problem
true and now you can have thin women with these mental problems because of things like ozempic and mounjaro, which removes the weight but not the problem in their head.

>>507331513
yes, just try it and observe look on their face, much more effective than to address them in any verbal fashion, basically just do what women do to you to make you feel undesirable, it fucking kills them, it is extremely important you look at their thighs and lower part of legs and feet

>>507331409
i didnt want to go on to another wall of text but yeah, ultimately it boils down to CICO

>>507332100
Checked and based, anon.
I'll try this on my groceries errand this afternon.

>>507328209
She wouldn't be fat if she just:
>replaced toast+butter with rolled oats+water+fruits (very satiating)
>replaced all sugary drinks with water (I bet that caramel frappe is at least 400 kcal if not more)
>replaced all her processed snacks with fruits and veggies
>replaced that packaged processed "food" with some whole foods (bean wrap with veggies, whole grain pasta with some home made tomato sauce + veggies)
>stopped snacking on fucking cheese, it's calorie dense as fuck and addicting

>>507325911 (OP)
Yeah, though for me it's also genetics.
(Apnea makes me tired and craving for sugar, been eating mostly beef and exercising recently though).
My brother who is not fat has a cpap because he gets narcolepsy

>>507325911 (OP)
I agree. Being 400 pounds is a state of mind.

>>507332124
I do ZERO sports and sit 99 of time at home and work and I have perfect fucking bmi, smooch skin and my buttocks are small and firm literary like those of a 16yo cunny, Im not even shitting you, I would take pic in bathroom for you but my wife is shaving her snatch atm

>>507332307
Yeah I had adhd monkey genetics. I get so bored I'd just fucking eat like a retard unless I have something else to stim with like playing an mmo for hours. ADHD meds fixed it.
I maintained my weight before meds but I was hungry and bored literally every day of my life.

>put addictive substances in all the food
>can't avoid eating food, literally every day you are forced to face your addiction again
>everyone becomes fat

The problem is profit motive companies putting addictive substances in the food, actually. All american food is filled with crap.
Subway tried to open a restaurant in Sweden, it got shut down because their "bread" was so pumped full of sugar it classified as "cake" under swedish regulations

>>507330275
When I worked at McD's that's all I fucking ate because it was free. I didn't get fat.
>inb4 you had the metabolism of youth
Yeah? So why are there so many fatty fat young people?

>>507329378
>reduces the availability of average looking women (fat women are ALWAYS below average): sexual marketplace is skewed
True, aside of your understanding of average, it "lowers the average standard" would be the correct phrasing.
>strain on healthcare system: everyone pays more because of fat people
False, fatties consume more food, thus pay more taxes, it's on the government that they just pocket the extra income, instead of putting it back into healthcare.
>they aren't able to do physical labor properly: "we need more immigration"
Half truth, because this does not mean more demand for immigration, it means demand for higher wages, that people would be willing to change livestyles for, jews are to be blamed.
>they eat more unhealthy foods and therefore more unhealthy foods are produced at a cheaper price: economies of scale
False conclusion, more demand drives up consumer prices of unhealthy foods, have you seen the price of potato chips lately? It's just fucking potato, and a bit of salt and spices, made mostly automatedly, and yet they ask 20 times more than for the raw product.
>public transportation, airplanes, housing, cinemas and more, must be adjusted to a fatter populace: we pay more for the same things
False conclusion, you get more comfortable, more durable seat standards, because they are designed for larger people. Your arguement could be made against tall people, and that would be dysgenic.

The main problem with fatties, that they are ugly to look at for the opposite sex (their own doesn't care, unless faggots). The system doesn't like fatties because they are more resiliant from famine, and not that easy to exploit, plus they are a big reason to improve the standards of everything that they'd just want to use junk products for.

>>507332468
Lazy hobbies are the worst, like watching TV or slow turn based games. I gained most my weight from alcohol though, 240 pounds 6'1 but I have a lot of muscles/str. Still a lard ass, but I am changing that. It's mostly a mental thing, diet and exercise are important though, with diet I mean what you eat.

>>507328209
Would

>>507332417
i didnt need to know that

>>507325911 (OP)
Let's talk about your big butt.
It's all over the place.

>>507332721
i can tell from her eyes she’s the type to complain and be generally awkward during sex

>>507331636
You should reduce oils because they're calorie dense, but I'd like to see some proof for your claims. Studies on saturated fats being replaced by vegetable/seed oil/olive oil intake actually see improvement in health and reduction in mortality for example, so that contradicts your claim.

>>507332704
If you're going to drink, you should drink scotch, like a man. Beer is for peasants.

>>507332490
These people will never admit that American society sets people up to be depressed, sedentary, and obese.
If the free market creates a horrible place to live "it wasn't real capitalism".

>>507332746
thats because you have never seen it with own eyes, you would go fucking insane if saw my youthful soup formed body, my 32 yo wife looks like fucking grandma next to me and I often get asked if shes my mom, fucking sucks

>>507329378
I think you're reversing the symptom and the cause for a few of these
>they aren't able to do physical labor properly: "we need more immigration"
this does not happen lol, you're so naive
the employers say this shit because they want to reduce your wages, it has nothing to do with people being fit
>strain on healthcare system: everyone pays more because of fat people
true
>they eat more unhealthy foods and therefore more unhealthy foods are produced at a cheaper price: economies of scale
sort of true but you have it in reverse, the companies cheap out on foods, purposely make it addictive (I dated a food scientist, this is their whole job), and create food they know makes people obese, see shit like subway bread being classified as cake
>public transportation, airplanes, housing, cinemas and more, must be adjusted to a fatter populace: we pay more for the same things
Yes but you actually have this backwards, at least in the USA. People got fat because they're in cars all day.

>>507326318
True, but so is being fat.
The whole thing is mental.
You eat because you're sad, that's a mental choice.
You eat because your gf broke up, fair enough, but don't do that every day for the next 5 years now because that's a choice.
Eating snacks every 2 hours sure have some oranges and other fruit, but Oreos and Ben & Jerry's are a different choice.
When you have the excess fat it's up to you to love it or hate it, and the irony is that if you hate it you project a negative image onto yourself which fuels your drive to eat more, thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy whereby your disdain for your girth makes you (more) fat.
Meaning that choosing to love your own fat for yourself is a step in the right direction.
Demanding that others love your fat too however is a form of narcissism and co-dependence and not a smart choice, because you give off the idea that you don't wanna lose the weight at all and you're manipulating people into giving you what you want.
Just because you love your body and love your fat, doesn't make it healthy to have that much fat, and doesn't inherently make you lose weight.
You still have to go through the old traumas that you've ignored one meal at a time, and work that energy out of your body.

>>507332830
I want to be a peasant, I do drink fancy hipster beer and build a tap in my backyard for homebrew.

>>507331636
sounds like fancy words for fiber. fiber is good for you. You don't want the body soaking up everything you eat. you want stuff to move through the body rather quickly.
Your head is full of misinformation.

>>507332898
It's not the free market when addiction is involved.

The free market = rational choices
but addiction = irrational choices
it short circuits any free market process whenever addiction is involved. It's involved in a LOT of places too. Gambling, drugs, TV consumption, the stock market....all ruled by addictions. It's THE primary vector of social harm. The free market stuff enables this predation.

>>507331561
>>507326698
He's right though. You're not beating a 500 pound guy in a fight.

>>507333075
Gross.

>>507327106
Happy Humphrey.
Look up the study they did with that guy and his weight loss.
They put him on a balanced calorie restriction diet for a control sample and then changed the macro proportions to see what difference those content proportions make.

>>507326213
always see a fat woman eating a twix

>>507333306
>60 kg "guy"
that's a child, or a woman. he's also half his height lol

>>507333306
Yup, simple physics.

>>507333424
Even the strongest men on earth will never move that dude. Your only hope is somehow knocking him out. But good luck reaching his head when his belly creates a 2 foot reach barrier.

>>507327487
it should be illegal for ppl this fat to eat anything but salads

>>507333306
>You're not beating a 500 pound guy in a fight
Right, they beat themselves.

>>507325911 (OP)
SHE WOuldn't fuck you greekcuck, it's why you seethe

>>507333668
Many such cases too.

>>507333570
Just stop giving them healthcare or handouts let them collapse under their own weight.
I am fat, but at that rate I would kill myself or try to starve myself, jesus

>>507325911 (OP)
I don't know why anybody things this is a controversial take, fat fucks themselves use mental illness for attention whoring.

>>507332665
>False, fatties consume more food
Somewhat more, but the type of food is what really matters and they mostly eat calorie dense foods.
>it's on the government that they just pocket the extra income
No, we don't need more taxes thank you.
>Half truth, because this does not mean more demand for immigration
Less people being able to do physical labor translates to less people working in physical labor. I don't agree with immigration policies either way.
>have you seen the price of potato chips lately?
To be fair I rarely buy that shit, but I know prices have gone off the rails since covid gave them an excuse to raise their prices to exorbitant heights and it stayed that high ever since. However, on a lot of processed meals I did the math and in a lot of cases it's not worth cooking your own meals from a financial perspective. Automated factories can output processed crap at an extreme rate which would normally translate to lower prices, but I assume since covid that hasn't been the case and profit margins are through the roof because people continue to buy the products even with the insane profit margins.
TL;DR: It's cheaper to produce but doesn't necessarily translate to cheaper products due to greed and profit margins and retarded customers that keep buying the products with exorbitant prices.
So yeah, you're right.
>False conclusion, you get more comfortable, more durable seat standards
Which raises the costs for no good reason if you don't care for it. No need to have an oversized seat in an airplane unless you're fat. Economy flights will get more expensive the more fat people get. If you want comfort then fly first class.

>>507333424
Alright, 110kg then, a typical combat ready /fit/izen at 6'2" / 188cm.
Still less than half the weight of that guy.
The big lad still has the physics advantage, but because beefcake's 110kg he'll tire out more quickly than he would from pushing the vanilla midget around.
Another two elements to consider: Big Mack Truck is trained to use his weight to his advantage (see his stances and the way he moves the kinetic energy from his ass to his hands when he pushes) and most fat people have no training whatsoever, and in these demonstrations the midge isn't diving for Mack's knees like darts to a board.
Bearing in mind of course that in a real fight on the street, you'd have to think quickly to make that diving effort and not be distracted by everything going on around you, and weapons will be involved.

>>507333071
>You eat because you're sad, that's a mental choice.
I had binge eating disorder and was obese when I was around 16 years old. I lost it naturally via diet and weight loss. I had been told you just need to exercise more (horrible advice) and my parents force fed me shit like macaroni and cheese and never cooked actual food. My parents would let me eat a family sized bag of doritos when I was 10 and not stop me.
>You eat because your gf broke up, fair enough, but don't do that every day for the next 5 years now because that's a choice.
Imagine you are bored every single day of your life. You have to fake interest to appear normal at events other people enjoy like sports, social events, parties, even going to the fair you're bored unless you're on the roller coaster. The only thing that alleviates this boredom is gaming for 10 hours a day or binge eating. I believe this is a genetic issue because every male I'm related to has this problem and for many they went to prison for impulsive behavior. I would start arguments as a kid simply because I was bored. Add to this my single mother refused to take me to sports or extracurricular activities. This feeling did not go away until I started taking adderall in my 20s.
>the irony is that if you hate it you project a negative image onto yourself which fuels your drive to eat more
I hated myself and would actually say if I don't lose the weight in X months I'll kill myself. I was insulted at school for my weight. Fat shaming does not work. What did work was being educated by Scooby1961 on how to meal prep, how to calculate BMR, CICO, lifting, cutting out junk food, etc.
>Demanding that others love your fat too however is a form of narcissism
This is true
>You still have to go through the old traumas that you've ignored
This is also true, but some people are also just fucked up. I think I have acquired ADHD due to my father beating my single mother or my mother's drug abuse, but maybe it's genetic, who knows.

>>507333635
KO'd by obesity.

>>507326213
PLAY A RECORD

>>507334064
I'm not saying you're wrong, but that clip goes overboard
>look at me ragdolling this midget around
it would be like me kicking kindergarteners around

>>507333071
>>507334221
tl;dr I agree with you but some people do have serious mental issues or were simply neglected and abused by their parents. I was not a particularly bad case in fact, I was only maybe 40 pounds overweight and lost it all without psychiatric medication. Imagine being forced by your parents to eat everything on your plate while you're already a fat fuck.
In middle school, I knew a kid who was 110 pounds overweight. His parents were fucking killing him. He never got laid. He hated his life. It's not uncommon for kids to already be obese by the age of 13 in the USA.

>>507327487
Cheers Pierre, truly this is the most repulsive and disturbing thing I've seen all day which includes watching cartel executions and kikes doing kike things. Thanks. You really didn't need to post that. TFD

>>507334221
>genetic because others went to prison
Your general state of happiness isn't necessarily a product of genetics.
From your story, I gather that you've been abused and neglected.
That shit stings.
Some people lash out and commit crimes from a "nobody cares about me anyway, fuck em" perspective, others binge because "nobody cares about me anyway, fuck em" perspective.
The problem is that we're being raised to expect and require that care and love from other people with bullshit like "that's what good parents do", and if your parents don't do it the way the media and school show you it should be done you feel like you're missing out on normality and good health.
You'd feel that nobody cares about you. Yes that's by design.

So what do you do about it?
You don't need anybody's love except your own.
Narcissus took it too far, learn from the example.
Think of it more in terms of self-respect. Complimenting yourself for your achievements without using those compliments as currency to excuse dumbass decisions down the road, that sort of thing.

>>507332808
>Studies on saturated fats being replaced by vegetable/seed oil/olive oil intake actually see improvement in health and reduction in mortality for example, so that contradicts your claim.
no they don't, you can't link me a study that proves this because it has never been done and never will, all you've read is headlines about CORRELATION studies or epidemiology, which is not scientific

>>507333114
>You don't want the body soaking up everything you eat
you want your body to "soak up" less nutrients? why not just eat less instead of eating anti nutrients and indigestible fiber, your head is full of a retarded brain

>>507326318
fat is a state of mind

>>507327823
Those are blackheads.

>>507333826
>Just stop giving them healthcare or handouts let them collapse under their own weight.
This person paved their own way to be this large. Show some respect

>>507334742
I hope our conversation helped some other people understand how Americans become obese. Many were already overweight or obese before they even reached the age where they were responsible for their own diet due to parental neglect. I was already asking people in my life around the age of 10 how to lose weight because I was ashamed of my body, but my parents allowed the situation to worsen.
The advice I got was terrible, simply exercise more. My parent-provided diet was horrible & the amount I ate was not appropriate. It's quite easy to eat 2000+ calories of macaroni and cheese and remain hungry. Other people were able to control those factors much more easily than I could as a literal preteen.
>Your general state of happiness isn't necessarily a product of genetics.
While I agree it's not necessarily the result of genetics, conditions while in the womb heavily affect your development. As I said it's likely my mother was beaten or did drugs while she was pregnant. Luckily I'm not retarded or disfigured, it could be worse. Even when I was happy, I was always bored. People would compare my sober behavior to that of a drug addict.
Some people do just have traits impulsive inclinations, and amphetamines or stimulant medications actually do help them control those negative traits. Kids who get neglected are much more likely to have those genetic traits, because people with ADHD are far more likely to have teenage pregnancies, neglect or abuse their children, etc.
>commit crimes from a "nobody cares about me anyway, fuck em" perspective
The issue is that every single male in my family shares the feeling of that unrelenting boredom & many other ADHD symptoms at extreme severity and frequency. I am not making excuses for them. I take adhd medication to not be like them. Even when I exercised 2 hours a day to tire myself out I had to fight the compulsion to binge eat. That is not normal.

>>507335452
>you can't link me a study that proves this because it has never been done and never will
We have very strong evidence for this through randomized controlled trials.
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD011737.pub3/full
>15 randomised controlled trials, 56,675 participants
>reducing dietary saturated fat reduced the risk of combined cardiovascular events by 17%
>Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate appear to be useful strategies
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000510#sec-16
>Randomized clinical trials showed that polyunsaturated fat from vegetable oils replacing saturated fats from dairy and meat lowers CVD.
Tons of referenced studies.

>>507331328
What you eat is irrelevant. Someone could drink nothing but soda with a multivatmin and fish oil supplement for their sustenance and they would lose weight if they remained in a caloric deficit. Just eat less and stop complicating it for the retards

>>507325911 (OP)
Most modern ailments are mental problems that are encouraged because of the profit motive or social engineering.

>>507335555
humans are designed to eat fibrous starchy food. Bulk is important for digestion. Gut bacteria needs it.

>>507335452
Did you really think there's no study concluding vegetable oils are healthier than animal fats? It's the consensus, of course there is.

>>507336319
Not being fat is a pretty low bar, stupid.

>>507334742
ADHD has a genetic component to it. You can't just self help therapy your way out of certain behaviors. Some people lack the proper brain function to absorb dopamine properly and will act more impulsively. The only thing that fixes these people is consistent pharmacological intervention.

>>507333777
How do they even see so fast? What are they judging on?

>>507336690
>The only thing that fixes these people is consistent pharmacological intervention.
LMAO

>>507336670
No the fuck it's not when this country is plagued by obesity. Not being fat is a good bar for most people to aim for. You can optimize when you have that.

>>507336319
That's not a healthy dietary pattern that can be sustained long term and a diet you can stick to long term is what matters.
It's actually not that complicated and you don't even need to count calories: eat whole foods, eat lots of vegetables and fruit, eat some nuts and seeds, eliminate processed crap, limit oils/fats considerably and all eliminate refined carbs, prefer fish over other meats.

Fat retards should be taxed 200%

>>507325911 (OP)
Wow
>Tank, twelve o'clock
>Range
>Point blank!

>>507336825
Or you could learn how to cook for yourself and go for a run every other day and getting fit won't require data collection and worry everyday, retard. But you do you if you want to remain a skinny-fat irritable little bitch.

>>507333031
good diet, not eating trash fastfood & sarmatian genes will do that
- someone from your region who moved to usa

>>507336924
Sure, that's another way to get to the same thing. I don't really mean I think the soda and multivitamin diet is good, I'm just stressing that the most crucial component to getting to a healthy weight is not overcompensating. You can get there by counting calories or by just eating sensibly like you suggest.
>>507336925
Based

>>507337070
Didn't mean to make you rage. Sorry!

>>507337170
overconsuming not overcompensating*

>>507337280
>I didn't say something stupid. You're just unreasonably angry.
Okay, retard.

>>507325911 (OP)
Post more fatties

i got skinny now i get checked out all the time. by women and fags.

>>507325911 (OP)
I would say the mental problem is secondary. For instance by family going back had the same diet as I did growing up pretty much, yet we were obese. What changed was the ingredients in the food. Seed oils, processed foods. Also people did become more sedentary. You would get bored in the past and go outside, now you can entertain yourself for a 1000 years in a chair.

I think these foods also affect the mental side, in that they are more addictive and less satisfying than whole foods

Obviously when it comes to actually losing weight the problem is entirely mental. But I don't think it's the case that suddenly the majority of the population decided to let themselves go

This isn't even getting into the mental effects of propaganda on diet.

>>507337328
Disagree rather than raging then.

>>507325911 (OP)
>>507337395
meant to post a fat to fit

>>507337436
Get thicker skin, pussy.

>>507325911 (OP)
Where's Based Julius to set everyone straight?

>>507337508
I mean you called calorie counting data collection which is pretty embarrassing lmao.

>>507329493
>it's pure laziness.
No, it's not pure laziness.
Look up videos of 1899-1910 New York and count how many fat people you see. You'll spot maybe a handful of fatties across 20 videos but 0 hamplanets, why is that?
Do you think they were all expert nutritionists or health coaches? No, of course not, they simply ate what was available to them, i.e whole foods. They didn't even have fridges in their homes back then.
We have a poisoned food supply today, like others have said, people aren't lazier today than they were back in 1899, their options are just way worse.
Heart attacks, diabetes and obesity along with countless other chronic illnesses are on the rise and have been ever since industrial seed oils were introduced into our food supply.
>>507336272
These studies are flawed from the start. They start with the assumption that elevated cholesterol levels are bad, there's no scientific evidence for this, only correlation studies.
When they put obese patients on a low satfat diet and thus reduce their cholesterol levels, they conclude that their risk of CVD is lowered, hence industrial seed oils = le good. Very clever but not scientific. You could call it kikery.
>>507336479
>humans are designed to eat fibrous starchy food
No, we're not. We can adapt to it but we're not made to eat INDIGESTIBLE fiber that rots in our gut and creates farts and shits. Are you a vegan perhaps?
>Gut bacteria needs it.
Gut bacteria that is introduced by eating fiber and survives on fiber needs it, but those bacteria are not needed for humans.
>>507336648
>It's the consensus, of course there is.
Oh well if it's the consensus it's already decided, my mistake. Are you up to date on your covid boosters?

>>507337624
Shut up, stupid. You're just digging a deeper hole for yourself.

>>507337758
>Oh well if it's the consensus it's already decided, my mistake. Are you up to date on your covid boosters?
I was saying because it's the consensus there's going to be a lot of studies supporting it. Because, ya know, it's the consensus, meaning that it's silly to assume there aren't studies to support it, which ya did.

>>507337841
Is mental arithmetic challenging for you?

>>507327009
>taking caffeine pills
Muh meme energy exercise supplement. Take a magnesium and potassium pill half an hour before a workout and then you can go all out. You won't even feel your heart beating.

>>507337924
>meaning that it's silly to assume there aren't studies to support it, which ya did.
Yes but they are not scientific studies, which is what I was asking for

>>507337997
>I just ate 4 strawberries and a glass of milk. How many calories was that? There was no nutrition info on the package. I think the glass of milk was 12oz but I'm not sure. The strawberries were kind of small though. Do I have to weight them or something?
You see how stupid your theoretical diet is in practice, fatass? Want to live like this the rest of your life? Fucking idiot.

>>507325911 (OP)
Can confirm. I lost 120 pounds on GLP-1 and then tapered off. Have to be strict with myself mentally every day or it will come right back.

>>507336690
>The only thing that fixes these people is consistent pharmacological intervention
I used to be anti-psychiatry and skeptical of ADHD meds. Many people suggested I had ADHD throughout my life and I viewed it as an insult when they were genuinely trying to help me. This researcher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDgOmFd5SlE changed my mind. It's a quantitative disorder based on the severity and frequency of traits. All of those were present from childhood to adulthood for me, severely.
I don't think 7 year olds should be on stimulant medication most of the time. I've seen them on super high doses at an early age. It's gross.
>You can't just self help therapy your way out of certain behaviors
Kids with ADHD often get abused because adults think they have a moral defect. I remember breaking down in first grade and not completing an assignment after staring at it for 30 minutes because I couldn’t focus. My teacher humiliated me in front of the class while I broke down crying.
There is some risk to amphetamine ADHD medications but they're outweighed by offsetting the negative effects of ADHD. There is little to no risk of neurotoxicity or long term effects as an adult at prescription doses.
>lower life expectancy
>higher risk of depression, suicide, shame
>higher risk of compensatory OCD
>higher risk of task based anxiety
>higher risk of being abused by adults
>high risk of ostracization by other kids for your behavior
>your parents likely also have ADHD, and thus neglect or abuse you
>worse professional and educational performance
>more likely to develop a criminal history
>far more likely to get in car accidents (inattentiveness)
>far more likely to start arguments just to alleviate boredom
>higher rates of sedentarism in adulthood (hyperfocus on games/etc.)
When you see someone who is obese I think there is generally an undiagnosed mental illness or disorder, they're probably an abuse victim, etc. When you get to know them, you'll realize this quickly.

>>507337758
>No, we're not. We can adapt to it but we're not made to eat INDIGESTIBLE fiber that rots in our gut and creates farts and shits. Are you a vegan perhaps?
everything rots in the gut. The byproducts of rotting meat are more toxic to the body than the byproducts of rotting fiber. Fiber dilutes the stool and retains water so the stool moves quickly through the body.

If you primarily eat lots of protein and fat, then the intestines will take a lot of time digesting the fat because it wants to absorb it all because fat is valuable, and this will dry the stool out and concentrate it, so it hangs around longer and has time to inflame the gut. high fat diets also cause leaky gut which causes endotoxemia, which inflames the whole body.
I'm not a vegetarian or a vegan, but my regular diet is usually vegetarian.

>>507337758
Those were randomized controlled trials. You clearly already made up your mind and no amount of evidence will change it. Randomized controlled trials are the strongest scientific evidence we have.

Here are some more, not randomized controlled trials however:
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.114.010236
>310602 participants total
>In prospective observational studies, dietary LA intake is inversely associated with CHD risk in a dose–
response manner. These data provide support for current recommendations to replace saturated fat with polyunsaturated
fat for primary prevention of CHD
>DOSE-RESPONSE MANNER (scientifically very strong evidence)
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12916-021-01961-2
>521120 participants
>Intakes of butter and margarine were associated with higher total mortality while intakes of canola oil and olive oil were related to lower total mortality
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652200778X
>811069 + 65411 participants
>Consumption of butter and margarine was associated with higher total and cardiometabolic mortality. Replacing butter and margarine with canola oil, corn oil, or olive oil was related to lower total and cardiometabolic mortality. Our findings support shifting the intake from solid fats to non-hydrogenated vegetable oils for cardiometabolic health and longevity.
>>507338329
>randomized controlled trials
>not scientific studies
Well, I'm done here kek.

>>507325911 (OP)
The problem is the belief that a meal has to include desert.
It's as if people believe that there should be a reward for stuffing an entire plate of food down their throat.

Gay pride day in America
Drop the bomb
Exterminate them all

>>507337395
It could be either, or even both in a cyclical manner. Being obese often makes you mentally ill, being mentally ill often makes you obese. Both get worse the fatter they get.
Anyway beyond mental illness it is my belief that American society simply sets people up to become obese. This is the only explanation for 74% of our population being overweight or obese. We have highly dysgenic infrastructure, food standards, etc. If you take a German and drop them in the USA, their kids are probably going to get fat, while that German might've stayed at a healthy weight his whole life.

>>507326447
LAWL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk__EJoInGA

>>507339061
LMAO. That's a lot of bullshit to just say kids who resist sitting still and being obedient should be drugged so they don't mind kid prison and wage-slaving.

>>507325911 (OP)
checkem i do need to workout even in public

>>507339684
Absolutely nothing attractive about that slut

>>507326318
Flag checks out

>>507338610
You don't have to count it down to the calorie to count calories. Just as a general rule, knowing how many calories are in something and having a daily limit or goal is a good thing. You don't need to autisticly do everything perfect in order for it to be a good thing.

>>507339587
I made it clear it's ideal to wait until adulthood to do stimulant medication. I agree with you. Even if a kid does have ADHD he shouldn't be on ADHD meds until he's 15+.
They drugged up my brother at a young age with too high a dose and it was horrible for him. It's a different situation for me because I started it as an adult.
It's not just wage-slaving, I had trouble getting anything done.

>>507339916
Or you could just learn to cook a handful of nutritious meals and take a walk after dinner and not have to worry about numbers every time you shove something into your face. Weight watchers sold you a bill of goods and you're repeating it like an unthinking retard.

BRING BACK SKINNY WOMEN

>>507327487
she would be pretty if she wasn't a whale. sad.

>>507340116
No dietary or lifestyle changes could help you, just meds you will have to continue for the rest of your life... LMAO. I don't believe you.

>>507340191
I have a functioning brain so I never worry about numbers. Personally, I don't count calories because I'm not trying to lose weight. I do exactly what you say, but I realize most people are overweight because they haven't developed those habits. Saying "just eat right" to someone who doesn't even know what healthy eating looks like isn't helpful. Maybe with time and life experience you'll realize that

>>507337758
stop drinking the koolaid you nigger. you don't know shit. Fiber is good. the only retards who dismiss fiber in diet have never had stool issues. woah congrats you're 20 and you dont eat fiber? tell us more!

>>507340485
Then shut the fuck up and don't give advice you never applied yourself. Holy shit you're retarded.

I just ordered sloppa

>>507340582
Most people who do carnivore end up eating some type of fiber. Liver King did potatoes and CarnivoreMD did fruit

>>507340593
Doctors are retarded for giving advice they don't need themselves right? Your logic is amusing

>>507325911 (OP)
Any sane person would stop eating for weeks take a multivitamin to lose the fat. Humans are similar to pigs and chimps. Fat people are actually pig people.

more people die from athletics than being fat.

Being a scrawny piece of shit is not hard at all.

the vast amount of you will starve to death if anything ever happens.

Fat and fit is where it's at. Eat my 2XL shorts.

>>507340882
Doctors who talk out of their ass don't get a pass either, stupid.

>>507341015
That extra fat to survive the winter doesn't mean anything if you die without insulin injections

>>507340730
I have read so many of these grift opinions like only eat meat. only fruit. only this. only that. potatoes are bad. fruit is bad.

well my anus suffers daily and I have tried every fuckin meme diet under the sun over the last 6 years. the golden rule is to eat the food you're supposed to eat and prepare it in a healthy way. I dont know what a nigger is supposed to eat, but I am supposed to eat potatoes (muh starch) with fibrous vegetables and a little meat. take care of those gut bacteria (they literally control you). that means fibers and fermented foods .. yes when I imagine their liquid shit I have to assume they start adding something. plus it's way too expensive (the meme meat diet)

>>507339061
Obesity is always correlated with either mental illness or maybe a thyroid issue. Its never just some healthy person who loves eating that much.

>>507325911 (OP)
There's nothing for it but to kill them all.

>>507340475
Lifestyle changes certainly help. Meds over a long period of time change brain elasticity so eventually the idea is that you can get off meds at some point.

>>507339126
>The byproducts of rotting meat are more toxic to the body than the byproducts of rotting fiber.
I'm not gonna argue with someone who believes this, have a good day.
>>507339308
I already said I don't care about observational studies, why do you link them? They're not scientific and neither are the previous studies you linked with a flawed premise, cry about it while you gulp your PUFAs, faggot.
>>507340582
>the only retards who dismiss fiber in diet have never had stool issues
Yes exactly you retarded monkey, because (excess) fiber causes gut issues. Fiber is not a nutrient, it's not essential, all it does is add bulk to your stool, make you bloat, make you gassy and increase risk of constipation.
This is why there are tens of thousands of vegan "how to reduce bloating, gas, constipation, gut issue"-videos on youtube because these are extremely common problems for people who eat a majority plant diet.
>>507340730
>Liver King
Roidtranny, don't care about anything he says or does.
>CarnivoreMD did fruit
Fruits are good but not because of the fiber (which is indigestible).
>>507341316
>well my anus suffers daily
Can't be the fiber though, no way. Dr Schlomobergstein said it was good!

>>507341679
>I'm not gonna argue with someone who believes this, have a good day.
I'm perfectly healthy with no issues at all. If you actually think gorging on on fat and protein is good for the body then that's a real shame because you are doing real harm to your body and shortening your life and quality of life.

>>507341679
>Yes exactly you retarded monkey, because (excess) fiber causes gut issues. Fiber is not a nutrient, it's not essential, all it does is add bulk to your stool, make you bloat, make you gassy and increase risk of constipation.
LMAO. Lies. Your shits after eating a bowl of chili will be way more pleasant than a plate of chicken wings.

>>507328209
Another 4000+ calorie a day diet with “healthy” foods. People just can’t wrap their head around volume. Her breakfast with the butter and the giant fruit bowl is already half of her daily calories for what she should weigh. And the only people that should be consuming energy every 2 hours are top tier athletes of people who do extreme manual labor, not office workers.

>>507329129
I see the same thing I go outside my door every day. I am in a more progressive metropolitan area and all the couples I see are relatively fit and decent looking guys with absolute hogs who have those stupid doodle tattoos on their arms and legs. These women will also say they are “leveling up” by going to therapy and making more money and men should “improve themselves” like the women are. Truly the twilight zone out here.

>>507341316
Fiber is really underappreciated, it really helps you reduce calories and vastly improves digestion and the gut microbiome.

Fun fact about oats, it has beta glucans (soluble fiber) in them that work similarly to ozempic regarding appetite suppression (though a lot weaker of course).
>>507341679
As I've said, you already made up your mind and no amount of scientific evidence will change that. You can choose to ignore the vast amount of scientific literature over the past 100 years that we have on this.

I'll just end this by saying that you shouldn't trust every Youtube grifter/influencer regarding nutrition. They don't have much (if at all) scientific backing and it's definitely not the consensus. Look at the totality of evidence, not just singular cherry picked studies if you follow some meme nutrition advice from Youtube.

>>507342131
If you have gut problems after eating a lot of fiber then your gut microbiome is completely fucked already. It can take months for the gut microbiome to adjust to a high fiber diet, and yes that means your gut and digestion is healing.

High fiber in the diet should be the norm, not the exception.

>>507326032
It's often a trauma response. People come out of an abusive, or more often neglectful home situation as kids where they obviously never had a chance to internalize good diet habits and then as adults, being able to eat whatever they want is one of the few things they control in their life, so they use food as a source of comfort. The trick in getting a lot of people to lose weight isn't to just spam diet and exercise advise, any retard knows what they should do in terms of diet and exercise. The trick is to get them to realize that they have unresolved trauma, and that diet and exercise is going to give them the most agency to restore the sense of control over their life that they seek, and that they can drop their maladaptive eating habits for something that actually helps them.

>>507329129
Kino
>>507331801
>>507332490
>>507332898
>These are very common in the USA because our infrastructure, food, and culture are terrible.
While I agree things are a bit worse in the US, it's not much better in Europe. All the same trends of worsening health occurs here to, just not as fast. It's a global phenomenon mainly caused by the wide adoption of industrial seed oils.
>>507342131
>LMAO. Lies. Your shits after eating a bowl of chili will be way more pleasant than a plate of chicken wings.
Most American post itt.

>>507326318
>t.fat fuck

>>507340111
40 of those pounds were in her tits.

>>507342135
It's also been studied that fat people under report their caloric intake.

>>507343706
This. I used to do amateur bodybuilding, got to 9 % body fat. After I got out if the military all the trauma of both my abusive upbringing and the absolute abuse I had in the military made me develop binge eating disorder. I stopped myself at 300 pounds and am now dieting back diwn to 180 with proper exercise and diet/sleep. It is most certainly harder to live while fat/obese. I don't ever want to get that bad again. One of the saving graces of being obese is once hitting rock bottom you tend to educate yourself and education is freeing.

>>507342810
>Fiber is really underappreciated, it really helps you reduce calories
>Fiber is good because it makes you eat less.
Do you ever stop to think about what you're writing and why before posting it? Why not just eat more nutrient dense foods instead of filling your stomach with indigestible fiber?
I don't understand why you're so obsessed with fiber.
Fiber comes out exactly the same way as you put it in, you might as well eat pieces of foam mattresses.
>Fun fact about oats, it has beta glucans (soluble fiber) in them that work similarly to ozempic regarding appetite suppression (though a lot weaker of course).
Ah yes, that's exactly what I want from the foods I eat, having my appetite suppressed instead of satiated. Thanks.
>As I've said, you already made up your mind and no amount of scientific evidence will change that. You can choose to ignore the vast amount of scientific literature over the past 100 years that we have on this.
You haven't posted any scientific evidence thoughberveit, you're just seething because I didn't accept your flawed studies as scientific evidence (which they are not).
>consensus
Why do you think consensus has anything to do with science? Do you also believe we're facing a climate crisis because that's what the consensus says? Are you up to date on your covid boosters?
>you shouldn't trust every Youtube grifter/influencer
I don't "trust" anyone, I started eating less fiber 2 years ago and stopped having bloating after every meal. Why would I start eating fiber again?
>>507343001
>If you're having issues digesting indigestible fiber, you have to eat more indigestible fiber because it means you don't have enough bacteria that can create gas and bloating in your stomach after eating indigestible fiber.
I'll let you have the last word if you want but I really think you should reconsider your stance on fiber, it's a byproduct of eating plants, it's not nutritious nor beneficial for us.

>>507343738
I'm still right and everybody knows what I'm talking about. Seethe, fruitcake.

True.
They don't have the mental fortitude to do something like fasting.
A regular water fast would be so beneficial for these fatties it's unreal.

>>507344751
you do need fiber in some capacity for proper bowl movement. it's physics.

>>507325911 (OP)
Even putting aside the fact that it is an eating disorder, gut health is essential to your mental health. This is certified fact unironically

>>507344970
That’s actually the complete opposite of the truth. Fiber gives me gas and makes me constipated

>>507345322
there's genuinely a genetic component to it, too. maybe your genetic lineage come from the more carnivorous side of us, not everyone works the same, but I'm talking fiber in some capacity. also, maybe you have some other stuff going on like being gluten intolerant or some other shit.

>>507326306
>>507331495
If you eat too much cake nothing will compensate for it. Strongmen are all fat. Crossfit professionals are nearly thin, but they eat in moderation.

All the usual fatties like my colleague who weighs 250+ lbs must be eating like these athletes. She's one of the fattest women I've ever seen IRL. 8 hours of physical work per day won't help because her every meal and coffee break has some kind of pastries or sweet foods.

>>507341237
I'm not fat from poison. Sucks that, that is what you rely on to feel good about yourself.

I'm fat because i eat good and more than you. I don't let niggers prepare my food for me.

>>507339498
>American society simply sets people up to become obese.
It really does. And the Puritanical attitude a lot Americans have towards just wanting to blame the individuals is just as bad as the fat acceptance faggots who want to pretend it isn't a problem. Neither will solve the problem and just make it worse. We have to treat it as the systemic problem that it is and provide top down solutions that actually make it easier for people to make healthier choices in lifestyle. The obesity problem is very much a class problem. Wealthy people are very seldom obese because they have both the free time and money (and generally higher IQ) to optimize their choices. The difference in class as far as being obese goes is the modern equivalent of medieval peasants being much shorter than the nobility due to malnutrition. All other things aside, the average person would be at a much healthier weight if they worked less and got paid more. Also more localized manufacturing and businesses would alter our infrastructure to be more walkable like it used to. Most people simply can't spend 3 hours a day in the gym, so most of their caloric output has to come out of day to day tasks like walking. The other most important thing is that RFK and the gang need to win the war on goyslop. Most ingredients Americans consume is illegal to put in food every where else in the world. People ate the same shite from the 50s through the 80s and they were just as sedentary as we are now,byet they remainedquite fit relative to now. Regan deregulated what companies could put in food and everyone blew up like balloons.

>>507331402
They'll think you're an awkward boring loser if you dont gave socials

>>507331409
Just don't eat.
If you feel hungry, drink a lot of water until you feel full.
You really don't need to eat at all. Especially if you're over weight.
You can survive for weeks without eating, but I usually only go about a week

>>507332417
>but my wife is shaving her snatch atm

Dunno why, but kek'd hard. Based anon.

>>507332800
Truth
That's when you flip them over and just have your way with that ass

>>507346603
He's lying. Women shave their smatch in the shower.
He's prbly never seen a vagina

>>507346809
He said bathroom, it's literally where the shower is, anon.

>>507330344
>ketosis makes the body actually run on water not fat
Wow crazy
>once you stop eating the correct foods you get fat again
You don’t say

>>507339498
Many people are more comfortable with 1:1 situations: there's one problem, so there must be one cause, and one cause must have one solution; anything beyond that and people think you're full of shit. In reality, there's what you said, there's lifestyle choices, there's metabolic rate (due to someone having a slow metabolism, which can be improved if it's just naturally slow), there's the effect of medications, there's thyroid issues that cause people to gain, etc. There's also the fact that our foods in the Americas are full of bullshit and sweeteners that contribute to the problem. Different stresses cause people to gain, and certain reactions of a person to that stress can determine how bad that gets. The important thing is, it's not a 1:1 problem:solution, and is very much a case-by-case situation.

>>507325911 (OP)
Yes. Fat people are just extremely weak and undisciplined.

>>507344751
Yes, people living in western countries need less calories, not more. Appetite suppression and being satiated is a good thing.The majority of people living in the west are overweight. Also, nutrient density and caloric density are two different things. Whole foods are nutritionally dense but calorically sparse.
First, fiber feeds your gut bacteria. Secondly, fiber (and the nutrients) is precisely what differentiates fruit from being "just sugar". The health effects of fruit would be worse without the fiber, and this is exactly what we see in studies that compare whole fruits vs fruit juices. Fruit juices are still better than just coke, however...
>Do you also believe we're facing a climate crisis because that's what the consensus says?
I don't particularly care about this topic but I do care about what my retarded government does based on it. It's almost as if their decisions aren't based on scientific evidence: nuclear power being phased out while buying electricity from Poland (coal), mass immigration which means higher CO2 output from the integrated population compared to what they would output if they stayed in their own shithole countries and a lot of other decisions I simply don't agree with.
In other words the consensus on man made global warming doesn't matter to me because government decisions based on it is completely retarded and makes my life worse, not better. Even if it was the case that we're causing it, I'd still be against their decisions, because they're retarded, so in end effect it doesn't matter to me.
>Are you up to date on your covid boosters?
Media and government should not be your source of "science". They approved the vaccines on very weak short term safety evidence. Vaccines should be vigorously tested and not approved simply on the whim of politicians. Vaccines should take decades of testing to be approved and on the fist indication of health problems shut down (as they were in the past..).

>>507325911 (OP)
Ok fatso

off chance of this working, but i have a request for this board. anyone got the webm of an insanely obese woman explaining what an incel is to some other bitch on a podcast?

>>507342135
The Iced Caramel Frappe alone is probably ~1500 calories.

>>507347500
Carbs are stored as glycogen with water in the muscles, you run out of these glycogens and that's what you're initially losing, not fat. Fat loss occurs later on and I'm not claiming you can't lose weight with keto, you can lose weight on any diet. It's just that keto only seems to be "so good" at weight loss because it seems like you're losing weight like crazy in the beginning while in fact you've just lost water weight.

This is the same reason why keto reduces your physical performance, not enough cabs leads to depleted glycogen stores in the muscles, your muscles tire out way faster.

>>507343956
>sugers
Has there even been a study that links IQ and obesity?

>>507331561
I thought the cutting board in the dishwasher was a bathroom scale for a second and lol'd.

>>507343956
Yeah, just like how I always lied and said I drank less alcohol than I did. Fatness is an addiction based in self pity, like many addictions. T. 6"1' 160 lbs stable after many years of alcoholism.

>>507347796
Sounds like the Whatever podcast with that bitch whose so fat that even her forehead is obese.

>>507343706
that feel good bull shit nobody is a special snowflake its cause they are pigs

they're greedy.

>>507348882
thats sounds about right, i remember literally every part of her body being fat

>>507325911 (OP)
Remember: Inside every fat person is a Hero who listened to grandma, had a hearty breakfast every day, and beat anorexia.

>>507349611
That's the spirit

>>507325911 (OP)
Looks like there may be a physical component as well. Like physically shoving a ton of trash into one’s mouth

>>507327487
>lie about what you eat
>It's still over 5k calories

Why aren't people posting more bbws? :(

>>507348716
I'd say fatness is the literal demon of gluttony. And of course, other demons are likely there as well, like sloth, despair, pride. The body does not just send random hunger signals. Call it mental illness or demon, but something unnatural is activating the eating behavior.