Thread 507704265

Why didn't you American's help your old enemy during the transition in 1991?
Jeffrey Sachs said that US was actively trying to sabotage efforts to stabilize Russia when he was sent there to help them liberalize their economy.
What's the point of ending the Cold War if you're still going to be hostile to Russia anyway?

Russia's very stable. It's so stable that it's even expanding its territory.

we lost so we deserve what happens to us

>>507704265 (OP)
And why would anyone help russniggerstan if it happens a second time?

the point is the us needs a common enemy to keep us goyim mad at something else. people who know of the evils of the govt will drop everything so they can #freeukraine #freepalestine and protect basic human rights

>>507704265 (OP)
> when he was sent there
Sent by whom?

>>507704265 (OP)
Remember how Khodorkovskiy confessed that Russian gas industry was controlled by Rotchilds under his governance

>>507705525
we followed our own path tho, and it took us 4-8 years to transform (1989-1997 when we ratified the current constitution)
in russia they did all of that in just 2 years. it was bound to collapse. in hindsight, the KGB had planned exactly that - the only governance they know of is governance through chaos

>>507705525
What is this supposed to prove?

>>507705249
burgerstan of course

>>507704446
You deserve better :)

>>507704265 (OP)
>It's the US' fault because uhhh KGB glowies took control of the country and enriched themselves at the expense of everyone else.
Kek

>>507706035
It was mostly jewish gangsters looting the state, look at the names of who ended up with all the oil companies

>>507706035
You didn't "do" anything. You're a nation of cockroaches living off EU gibs. You can't compare literal parasitic leeches like Poland with self-reliant Russia. Even after all these years, Poland only takes.

>>507706180
Listen to Sachs, the guy who oversaw all of this.
Glowies aren't without blame I agree, but Sachs also blamed the refusal of US administration on helping Russia.

>>507706035
There was no KGB, this organization lost its influence, the bandits who started to open a business in the 80s took power.

>>507704265 (OP)
because even after the fall, they were still the only country that america saw as an existential threat.

>>507706253
take your meds

>>507706428
That's stupid, why couldn't Russia be the next Japan?

>>507704265 (OP)
>(((Jeffrey Sachs))) was actively trying to sabotage
unexpected

>>507706474
why we should get worse

>>507706570
Now show rural Russia

>>507706428
traditional Russian backwardness has nothing to do with it, it's always the fault of the others - you're like a leftist.

>>507706623
>barvikha

>>507706212
jews were the faces of the russian transformation selected by the KGB for their presumed ease of connection with US elites
the plan backfired... spectacularly... KGB still faked Yeltsin in, in 1996, but by 1999 he was bust and Putin took over as President of Russia already on 31 December 1999 without any election, then the 2000 election was already a done deal just like 1996 since the Second Chechen War had just been launched after the fake commieblock bombings (see Ryazan sugar)

>>507704265 (OP)
>Jeffrey Sachs
That nigger is Russian shill and a schizo. He helped with economic shock terapy in Poland 1990-1992 and he probably is delusional enough to believe Russia is so much similar it would get similar results with same policy (and since results are different there have to be some outside factors involved).

With amount of ass kissing both Yeltsin and Putin received from US (and many European countries), there's no way anyone was interested in destabilizing Russia. Even recently when Russia got Prigo's coup Americans told Ukrainians to stop any actions, so Russia doesn't destabilize.

>>507704265 (OP)
Simple.
The Russian Room in CIA didn't want to loose their funding...

>>507706253
Ok I am neutral on Poland, but would the EU not send a lot of gibs to Poland to get them to pump up their military to put up a bulwark against the Ruzzzzzzians?

>>507704265 (OP)
U wut m8? The US literally sent chickens, pork, beef and rice to the Russians.
Secondly, it was an enemy, I don't remember Russians or Americans sending food to Germany or Romania post 1945.

>>507706842
you're a simpleton, eh? or are you just playing one?

>>507706829
i fucking hate polaks.

>>507706911
8==D O:
tongue my foreskin jew boy.

>>507706253
Nigger, Poland gibs are .03% of their GDP. Same shit in Romania, .03 of GDP.
And Russia has lower economic output than both Romania and Poland.
Get more efficient niggers

>>507704265 (OP)
how a country got sold to a bunch of niggers that didn't have the money they used the buy the country with
oh and america was responsible for the collapse of the union.

>>507706926
Ryazan sugar Ryazan sugar Ryazan sugar
Patrushev caught red-handed:
>Этo были yчeния, тaм был caхap!
with a barely concealed smirk

we remember! do you?

>>507706867
>I don't remember Russians or Americans sending food to Germany or Romania post 1945.
retard

>>507706848
Why the fuck would France Spain Italy Belgium Luxembourg and the Netherlands be afraid of Russia, island nigger? Are you afraid it?

america always needs a enemy same way england did when they ruled the world its a simple case of keeping up appearances and controlling your hegemony

>>507707076
Was there ever a time where russia had no enemies?

>>507707023
>>507707060
Ryazan sugar Ryazan sugar Ryazan sugar
Patrushev caught red-handed:
>Этo были yчeния, тaм был caхap!
with a barely concealed smirk

we remember! do you?
Litvinenko got murdered by the KGB with polonium in 2006 for being a loud witness of it all

>>507706491
He's one of the good ones, doesn't support israhell

>>507707169
he's a nobody, is a jew, needs money
>ends up whoring for russia
standard... it's why we Poles hate jews and yet they have the gall to brand US nazis, kek
all the more reasons to hate kikes, eh?

>>507707157
yeah i was watching something about FSB ryzan sugar bombs like 2 days ago. Litvinenko also said that putin was a paedophile, and his father suddenly reversed his thinking and is pro-putin now

>>507704446
You didn't lose, you won so hard that the whole world is a communist shithole now. Congratulations.

>>507707060
Russians were looting not giving

>>507707255
putin is certainly a fag, and all fags are pedos
Litvinenko may have been right, but i doubt any sort of pedophilia is the kompromat the KGB's got on putin (who's just a KGB patsy at the end of the day, he knows who elevated him to presidency and he knows whose hands to kiss still lest he be the one to fall out the window one day)

listen to putin's voice. it's a weak, effeminate voice. my bet is homosexual relations from his youth are putin's kompromat

>>507707306
retarded cuckservative, go die in israel you fucking mutt

>>507707306
This

>>507707403
There is nothing worth conserving left in this ZOG hellhole. I wouldn't fight for anyone except for my family.

>>507707392
>my bet is homosexual relations from his youth are putin's kompromat
an area of interest might be putin's judo early days. maybe with his trainer

>>507704265 (OP)
>Jeffrey Sachs said that US was actively trying to sabotage efforts to stabilize Russia when he was sent there to help them liberalize their economy.
jeffrey sachs is a keynesian shit head crypto communist and soviet sympathizer. it doesn't matter what he says, he has no credibility or knowledge to make such a claim

the reason russia didn't recover is because their glowniggers looted their economy. why is that current russia is ruled by the same people that ruled them during the soviet times? all the billionaire oligarchs that looted russia were glowniggers

>>507707318
I was a bit rude, but Americans did sent alot of stuff to Germany, including food.
was part of marshall plan too if I remember correctly

>>507704265 (OP)
>What's the point of ending the Cold War if you're still going to be hostile to Russia anyway?
Gotta keep russia as the boogeyman so they have an excuse for all the military spending.

>>507707514
>keynesian
>communist
you don't fucking what either of those words mean

>>507704265 (OP)
help who? soviet boomers (sovoks) who wanted CCCP 2.0? They would have done it.

the best course of action is just do nothing

>US was actively trying to sabotage efforts to stabilize
don't know about that, but if you have 90s gopniks (bandits) in government maybe they should have sabotaged it harder

>>507706474
japan is four tiny islands, russia is the largest country in the world. Europe, Britain was trying to balkanize russia almost since its discovery

>>507707615
>since its discovery

>>507706995
Shut the fuck up, gypsy. Quit making excuses, get your shit together and stop sucking dick for gibs like the dirty little third world hoes you are. Find yourself some fucking dignity. It's exhausting for us productive countries to have to bail out little shits like you, and read your ESL bullshit strong independent womyn act. So what the fuck's it gonna take, gypsy?

>>507704265 (OP)
>why did
imagine speaking your lang, we dont really care. i got a few domains in nic.ru, you will get 100 btc more then stfu

>>507707615
here
>>507707660
yes discovery you retard, by Richard Chancellor

>>507704265 (OP)
Westerners have always tried to destroy Russia because it has such high potential and danger as a competitor. They can't let such a beast exist and for some reason westoids just want to kill and destroy. China for example feels secure and focuses on self improvement.

>>507707753
Learn english you asiatic mongrel

My president

(the last real Russian president)

>>507707886
kill yourself you fake germ

>>507707933
Your president chose Putin

>>507707933
He's the reason 90s Russia suffered, you should be ashamed of praising the man who sold out your country to oligarchs (along with that bald fuck)

>>507707957
After you have learned english I will, fake Ukrainian.

>henlo
>detta är leifi

>>507708039
imagine being proud of being a good esl, knowing a foreign language better than someone else. The absolute cuck.

>>507708166
>Taking pride in ignorance and bad education
ura

>>507704265 (OP)
To get resources in the ground collateralized in US banks. It's been the same play book for 5 centuries, Venice to Amsterdam to London to New York.

>hallå leifi
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gZ8J_A1ZhJo

>>507708061
maybe he was a little mad after chechen shit (who wouldn't)
he was a little hot head like that, maybe got a little drink or two, you know

>>507708034
this. yeltsin sold the country

>>507708034
>He's the reason 90s Russia suffered
nice z**mer meme
he and his government was the reason Russia flourished in 2000s, before the results of the FSB gopnik's rule took effect in 2010's
the 90s was the harsh transition period from soviet stagnant non-existent economy

>>507704265 (OP)
>Why didn't you American's help your old enemy during the transition in 1991?
You know nothing John Snow.
They helped so much that chicken in Russia was rebranded to American name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_legs

>>507708478
Do you remember how all these American/British/German/French retards were saying 20-25 years ago that Putin is a democrat, good guy etc.? Direct comparison was Yeltsin. Drunken, retarded, but at least honest with them on Russian world's view. It took some low-level KGB's spook/Leningrad criminal lying to them, so they felt relief for some time (until Georgia/Crimea/full invasion on Ukraine - depending who exactly we're talking).

It seems we're looking at serious, systemic problem in case of Russia and things will only get worse no matter who's in charge.

>>507707555
Yes but starting 1950+ not in the immediate aftermath of ww2. USSR broke down in 1991 and OP was asking why haven't the Americans rushed to feed their former mortal enemy. And ironically enough the Americans did feed the Russians, for free. And today the old and the young hate the Americans for feeding them back in the day. Russian schizophrenia and malice on full display.

>>507707615
Lmao
England was sympathetic to Russia and even helped Russia tremendously during the Napoleonic wars. The only time England pitch slapped Russia was the Crimean war that resulted from Russia invading Moldova (and precursor state of Romania). England, France and the Kingdom of the 2 Siccilies beat the shit out of Russia in Crimea and Russia lost the right or having a Black Sea fleet or forts. With that sole exception England was always generous with Russia.

>>507707703
What's it to you nigger, you're way too involved in this like it's your money or shit.
You mind your own shithole
What part or 0.03% don't you understand?

>>507707753
Based English! I wish King James would've colonised you niggers and we'd have England as our eastern neighbours. It would've been the best decision ever.
Oh man, it would've been G R A N D!

>>507707933
Boris "I'm always 300% drunk" Yeltsin

>>507708248
Kek

>>507708793
Smart russian right here
Russia was never freer and happier than between 1991 and 2010

>>507709203
Thank you for linking the proof

>>507709549
>systemic problem in case of Russia
the way I see it, there are 2 ways to solve this

It's either go back to BIG (unlikely) or go waay back to before moscow rule (slavic tribes)
The latter is the hardest one to pull because there was 500+ years of legacy of RUSSIA BIG
And all local slavic identity is all but erased.

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>>507709640
holy seethe lol

>>507711605
It's tunneling coz I'm high nigger not seethe
N I G G E R

>>507704265 (OP)
>you American's

>>507704265 (OP)
The kikes have a grudge against the Russians for a number of reasons:

1. Communism failed.
2. Eventual Pogroms.
3. Putin stopped the kikes strip-mining Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union.

They also require a permanent basket of enemies to justify the perpetual growth of the MIC.
They're at the point now where the Americans are getting very little bang for their buck in terms of military spending despite constantly increasing the budgets.
America is basically socially and economically doomed and the only thing they're doing is doubling down on the reasons they're in the shit.