i thought the future was being able to walk into a store and buy a burger with btc. that was 15 years ago and it's all fucking still useless. i only had 20k in btc but i sold it all like an hour ago. the only reason it skyrocketed in price is that jew bankers got involved. also, it's not a 'store of value' because when the economy tanks so do all the cryptos.

i used to think btc would go to 1M per coin but now that it has been so long and it's just people FOMOing and buying when it has no utility i think it's a house of cards.

>>507949835 (OP)
You knew about bitcoin 15 years ago and you're still poor? Kek

>>507949835 (OP)
where you gunna park your money next?

>>507949835 (OP)
also, if you're a store would you accept like a stock for payment? no, because you're gambling by owning a store and it's double gambling if you accept btc/stock as payment.

>>507949835 (OP)
Buy signal

Put it in Gigachad

>>507950055
>where you gunna park your money next?
just going straight index funds.

10 years ago the price was about $500. Now it's around $150,000.

>>507949835 (OP)
It's a ponzi scheme.

>>507950286
>It's a ponzi scheme.
It literally is not, you don't know what that means.

>>507950172
>Buy signal
maybe. but cryptos have had ages to become adopted and it has never happened.

>>507949835 (OP)
dinar and dirham gold and silver

>>507949964
>You knew about bitcoin 15 years ago and you're still poor? Kek
i think it was at 1k or 1.5k per coin at that time. i'm not rich but not poor.

>>507949835 (OP)
>He sold

>>507950390
A bunch of places accept bitcoin as payment already

>>507950507
15 years ago the price was less than $1.

>>507949835 (OP)
Trust me when majority of normies realize ww3 is upon us and the world is utterly fucked,the price of gold will melt people’s faces off.

>>507949835 (OP)
1 milion per coin is impossible, first time i bought it was 80. that would be an obious scam. monero is were it is it. the joke of digital money is no trace for jews to tax you, or leave evidence.

obiously i didnt hold and kept moving them

>>507950565
>15 years ago the price was less than $1.
nah, it was way more than that 15 years ago. if you're going to check me and say $500 then i would concede, but when i was buying with play money it was between 1k and 1.5k.

>>507950278
It is $105k the same it was 6 months ago.

>>507950379
It's all greater fool and will never be anything else. Tulip mania 2.0.

>>507950390
It literally cannot ever become a viable option because you cannot pay your taxes with crypto. Any vendor that would accept bitcoin would have to calculate and exchange BTC to USD in order to pay their taxes. Vendors would have to pay higher fees and having to deal with an extremely volatile "currency" which would fuck up all sorts of book keeping. It will literally never happen.

>>507950854
https://www.bitpay.com/directory
All these places accept bitcoin as payment or have some sort of system that allows you to spend bitcoin for products

>>507950810
It was 5 cents.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

>>507950854
>It literally cannot ever become a viable option because you cannot pay your taxes with crypto. Any vendor that would accept bitcoin would have to calculate and exchange BTC to USD in order to pay their taxes. Vendors would have to pay higher fees and having to deal with an extremely volatile "currency" which would fuck up all sorts of book keeping. It will literally never happen.
exactly. like if you ran a business and only accepted btc it's like day trading. you sell something for a profit and then btc goes down in value and then you've sold a fucking sandwich at a loss. the only inherent value it has is that you can use it to buy drugs online. this was the main thing that pumped btc to the ~$200 range. then all the nerds said THIS IS THE FUTURE!! and it pumped it even higher. then all the bankers said THIS IS THE FUTURE!!! and the shit went to the moon. this will all collapse once everyone realizes they're basically collecting beanie babies.

>>507951048
Bitpay transfers real money (USD/EURO etc) to the vendor in exchange for your crypto. They are merely a middleman and will leech on you because that's what middlemen do.

>>507951142
investing in just $100 then, you would have had $200 million today

>>507949835 (OP)
We have been over this time and time again anon.
But you trolls keep posting the same trash so I will paste my responses so that any delusions you may have can be removed.

> The corporate-central banking system operates as a transnational control mechanism, rendering democracy obsolete. Debt-based monetary policy binds governments to financial dependency, while lobbying and media manipulation turn politics into theater. Mass migration and cultural fragmentation are engineered to weaken social cohesion, suppress wages, and prevent unified resistance.
> Bitcoin threatens this system as a deflationary, decentralized alternative to the USD—a currency they can print endlessly to fund agendas, crises, and divide-and-conquer tactics. Gold/silver are promoted to divert wealth from BTC, which has a fixed supply and can’t be inflated away. Historically, nations attempting independent currencies were crushed.
Today, (((their))) real enemy is the people’s potential to adopt sound money like Bitcoin, breaking free from centralized control.
> When you buy gold, you’re not escaping the system—you’re feeding it. Central banks and their cronies own the mines, meaning they control the "hard money" narrative. They inflate gold to lure capital away from real threats (like Bitcoin and cryptocurrency), then crash it to reassert dollar dominance.
> the supply of gold is tightly controlled and they can inflate it by increasing production at the mines that they control, or remove it from circulation by inflating the USD fiat supply and purchasing all the gold out of thin air and then crash the price with speculative financial vehicles such as ETFs.
> Fortunately they cannot do this with BTC and other cryptocurrencies, even the shit coins are a resistance.

>>507952553
> The corporate-central banking nexus functions as a transnational apparatus of control, imposing its structure onto nation-states under the guise of economic progress and globalization. This system, rooted in debt-based monetary policy, effectively bypasses democratic will by binding governments to financial dependency. Through lobbying, financial coercion, and media influence, it buys out political classes, rendering elections hollow and reducing left vs. right politics to performative spectacle — a false dichotomy masking consensus on elite-serving agendas.

> To further entrench its power, the system promotes mass migration and cultural dilution under the rhetoric of diversity, not out of altruism as they claim in the media gaslighting, but as a calculated strategy. By accelerating demographic shifts, it weakens social cohesion and erodes collective identity, undermining the capacity for unified resistance. Simultaneously, an oversupply of labor drives down wages, creating economic instability that keeps populations divided, and easier to control (see LA riots). What emerges is not a community of nations, but a managed herd — governed not by public mandate, but by the financial and ideological interests of a ruling corporate-banking elite.

>>507952659
> The power of BTC is that its a deflationary digital alternative to their USD, the USD that can be printed out of thin air and used to fund all the media agendas and protests and crisis actors it wants pitting the people against each other while they pick your nations apart by pushing the policy they want through with the money they create out of absolutely nothing but thin air.

> The leadership positions attracts those who play along and help sell out their own people, there are no leaders who are your friends they are all paid off actors supporting the system of exploitation that gives them the power to shape your democracy with money while you have no time to compete.

> Similarity hard assets like god and silver are promoted by these individuals as it’s an avenue to soak up wealth that would be transferred into BTC and other digital assets that have a limited supply.

> The limited supply of BTC acts as a bulwark against the money printers, and also provides avenues for individuals to create their own currency decentralising their power from the USD into alternatives that liberate democracies from their centralised control, historically when nations tried to create their own currency the US military was employed to reduce these nations to rubble under the ideas of fighting communism or dictatorships that oppose their agenda. But today there are no more enemies but the people themselves as all nations.

>>507952692
> Gold mines function identically to central banks in their capacity to manipulate the effective money supply. By accelerating or throttling production, mining conglomerates — often aligned with financial elites — artificially flood or restrict gold’s availability, engineering boom-bust cycles that defraud holders. When prices are inflated, retail investors pour wealth into gold; when mines oversupply or banks dump reserves, the crash enables confiscation of assets (property, savings) at fire-sale prices. Critically, this makes gold/silver tools of control, not resistance. The same institutions undermining democracies via debt-based fiat own the mines and paper-gold derivatives. They promote precious metals to divert capital from truly disruptive technologies like Bitcoin — which has a fixed supply immune to mining manipulation and operates outside their system. Thus, gold is a controlled pressure valve: it simulates "sound money" while sabotaging threats to the central banking regime that enslaves nations through endless debt, confiscation, and engineered crises.

I just want to go to Burger King and pay with Bitcoin. How fucking hard is it to ask for?

I baught a burger with bitcoin from steak and shake a month ago. Do you even look up this shit. I pay for my credit card with bitcoin too

>>507952553
>>507952659
>>507952692
>>507952748

You stupid fucking nigger. (((They))) already control BTC. Bankers bought enough of it to control and manipulate the price long before Mich-ack Saylor started his scam. BTC having a limited supply doesn't matter because it will NEVER EVER be widely adopted as a currency. It will remain a greater fool speculative "asset" until the end of times.

>>507953416
https://coincards.com/us/product/burger-king-online-gift-card-electronic-delivery/

Anti crypto boomers are back huh. Time to buy more I guess. Stay poor in the future retards.

>>507953616
>Marketing ploy to get midwit libertardians to buy their goy slop.

The revolution is here boys. New paradigm!

>>507953658
>be me
>bought BTC early
>now have made it and have more money than I need
>dont have to wagecuck anymore
>meanwhile poor boomers on 4chan seethe about crypto
kek

>>507953658
COPE anon

No one is buying your CBDCs anon and as (((you))) print infinite amounts of USD out of thin air to fund your ethnic replacement, your wars for Israel, your interracial divide and conquer optics such as giving 10 million of BLM etc.

The volume of USD increases and the supply of BTC remains constant and so just holding BTC is the greatest vote against ZOG.

When you people get exposed, you usually resort to.
> Solar flares
> What happens when the internet or power gets turned off
> What happens if its made illegal
> What happens if...

It ogre for you pedophiles, you should start looking for Jobs... No idea what a bunch of professional land leaches can do when property taxation pushes you off our lands.

>>507953806
>he is happy owning nothing

>>507954632
I own a house, land, guns and 500k liquid because I've been in Crypto since 2011. I saw all of this coming retard. Stay stupid old man.

>>507953806
All the boomers at my work are talking about fucking XRP all the time, it's making me incredibly bearish.

>>507954632
anon you can't own things.
Is you name on the collection of atoms that makes up your house, car or plane?

I can lead a group of men to take everything you have and the ownership you think you have means absolutely nothing.
No one owns anything, its simply an idea in the minds of slaves who have been groomed from birth.
You don't actually own anything, not even your body belongs to you, its all just atoms in the void.

You're simply a delusional retard.

Take a castle with a group of men and kill the so called owner it now belongs to you.
Ownership is through violence alone, working for paper money that Jews print out of thin air isn't ownership its an illusion.

This is why your media condemns fascism and says to vote in rigged elections where both sides are part of the same controlled opposition.

>>507950680
Digital dollars will be useless after the grid collapses. I bet paper fiat will continue bring used as a medium of exchange even after a nuclear war. Sellers will be free to refuse sales, of course. Maybe bills will be stamped with a local government seal.

>>507955156
> When you people get exposed, you usually resort to.
> Solar flares
> What happens when the internet or power gets turned off
> What happens if its made illegal
> What happens if...

Exhibit A

>>507950854
>It's all greater fool and will never be anything else. Tulip mania 2.0.
By your logic so is Gold or any other worthless asset (i.e. no real use and no cash flow).
>Any vendor that would accept bitcoin would have to calculate and exchange BTC to USD in order to pay their taxes.
Stablecoins exist and are a mark improvement upon the ACH/Fedwire system, BTC itself has failed its purpose of becoming an alternative currency and has since then pathetically pivoted to being "digital gold".

Sie erhalten mehr als genug und leben im Überfluss

>>507953982
>bought the lottery ticket and won
>seethe wagies
wow, congratz

>>507952553
That pic is retarded, it assumes BTC has a constant real demand over time which is an absurd statement for a currency that has crashed 80% in a year

>>507949835 (OP)
>i thought the future was being able to walk into a store and buy a burger with btc. that was 15 years ago and it's all fucking still useless.
Mate, the key to crypto is realizing it's all useless and a scam, and investing anyways because of greater fool theory.

The use case is number go up every 4 years. it will never, ever, ever be used as money because of this. Any other crypto that tries to be money, will be bought up by people hoping it pumps and turns into another number go up Bitcoin ponzi. Because the truth is, no one cares about or understand the problem with fiat currency enough to care. They just want to be rich.

>>507955523
They aren't able to argue in good faith because they are shills running a system of usury that is exposed with logic and reason.
It is well documented who they are and how they argue.

> The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.
> First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.
> If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which,
> if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended > not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like > slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these > fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at
> least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he
> rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he
> couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
> Gradually I began to hate them
> Adolf Hitler

>>507956232
>satoshi nakamoto means central intelligence in japanese
>but glowniggers would never ever ever create a trojan horse psyop to introduce digital currency and name it bitcoin

>>507956349
>satoshi nakamoto means central intelligence in japanese
what did anon mean by this false statement?

>>507956533
>"Nakamoto" is a Japanese surname meaning "center" or "middle", the kanji for "Satoshi" (智) translates to "wisdom," "intelligence," or "cleverness"
Peter Thiel started ethereum and ripple. Wake up retard

>>507954864
XRP won't do shit. Too many apes who dont know how crypto works

>>507955901
Its a fair point anon, the demand and adoption will likely continue to grow.

> Approximately 425million people worldwide own or have used Bitcoin, about 5.3% of the global population, up from 320million in 2022 coinranking.com.
> Other reports estimate ownership at around 4% globally, reaffirming its status as an early-stage, growing technology

> Over 80 companies collectively hold roughly 3.4% of all BTC, with significant inflows planned.
> The U.S. government holds 198000–207000BTC ($17–$19B), grabbed from seized assets.

> Bitcoin's user base now sits between 4–5% of the world population (~425 million people).
> Adoption is uneven: high in countries like ElSalvador, the UAE, Vietnam, and the U.S.; low in regions like Africa (~1.6%).
> Institutional momentum is building fast with ETFs and corporate/government holdings.

And after there is institutional adoption the normies will follow. Its time to dump the central banking Jews and end their centra banking regime that creates rigged democracies, funds wars and conflict between the people.

We don't need new leaders, we need to end their system of usury.

>>507956349
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX21rnDV-oo

>>507955901
so has the stock market lol

stay poor

>>507949835 (OP)
BTC is like gold bars.
You don't buy things with them, but the value of money (should) be backed by it.

In reality BTC is a dogshit dinosaur coin that should have died long ago but its the face of crypto even though basically every other coin (EXCEPT NIGGER ETHEREUM) is better for transactions (LTC, Monero, shit tons of coins)

>>507956857
>crying about his shitcoins
Every time.

>>507956790
>institutional adoption the normies will follow. Its time to dump the central banking Jews
LMFAO

>>507949835 (OP)
>paying for a string of binary digits stored in floating gates
nah will continue accumulating Au atoms

>>507956602
You're actually right, I stand corrected

>>507956842
The stock market is backed by real companies and their cash flow, Bitcoin is backed by nothing.

>>507957268
So is fiat currency boomer.

>>507951800
>you sell something for a profit and then btc goes down in value
????
You just said you made a profit. Are you fucking stupid. A schizo? Do you understand how any of this works?
Most merchants that accept BTC use a service to automatically convert to cash. BTC changing in value is irrelevant.

>>507955847
>implying it's a matter of luck
Tell me, what stopped you from buying the dip a few months back?

>>507949835 (OP)
personally think you're right OP godspeed

>>507957307
Fiat currency is backed by the US Government, definitely has more legitimacy than Bitcoin.

>>507950179
can I have some of them gigacoins

>>507949835 (OP)
Cryptos value increases the further you are away from the reserve currency. Places that steal everyones money and flys it offshore, places you cant move money in or out, etc

>>507957344
>????
>You just said you made a profit. Are you fucking stupid. A schizo? Do you understand how any of this works?
>Most merchants that accept BTC use a service to automatically convert to cash. BTC changing in value is irrelevant.
what is the use though? you're going to immediately convert btc to cash? you're adding a middleman and there are fees on btc transactions. why not just go with cash? there is nothing practical about btc or any crypto.

>>507957457
Doesn't the US government back Bitcoin also?

>>507949835 (OP)
Before jews currency was
>gold and silver
Oy vey that looks heavy here give that and I'll give you this piece of paper see it's a promise you see

Then
>bank notes
Oy vey all those different denominations look real confusing here you give me that and I'll give you this BTC it's currencies you see


We're all being conditioned to own nothing and like it we just need to let Iran nuke israel and the world will start to heal.

>>507952174
The only cunt whose had diamond hands for the last 10+ years is Ross Ulbricht, apparently he's still got like $40m stashed in BTC after the feds and hackers shook him down for billions.

>>507949835 (OP)
>it's just people FOMOing and buying when it has no utility i think it's a house of cards.

I think it makes sense as a hedge against economic collapse in the same way that gold and silver do; but it has advantages and disadvantages that precious metals don't.

Its big advantage is that its easier to sell than gold or silver and it has no physical presence so you don't need to carry it around.

Its big disadvantage is that it has no physical presence so access to it relies on an internet connection and some form of international market system to trade it.

So your Bitcoin is going to be a good hedge against your country's currency collapsing since other country's will still be able to buy Bitcoin and have demand for it even if your country goes to shit. But its not a good hedge against the whole global economy shitting the bed in the way that gold and silver are because it needs a global market system to exchange it and provide demand for it. For that same reason its probably not a good hedge against the US dollar collapsing since its currently the global reserve currency although if that changed then Bitcoin could be a good hedge against the US dollar.

I think as a tool of diversification it makes sense. Have stocks, have bonds, have bitcoin, have gold and silver, have property, have guns ammo and canned goods and have your own source of water and a place to grow potatoes. Don't rely on anything and don't put all your eggs in the same basket.

>>507957444
Yes it is, you fucking imbecile. Out of millions of those who bought/mined this shit in 2010, 99.99999999999999% have sold it or spent it on drugs or forgot their passwords or lost their drives or got everything stolen by the (((exchange))).
There are more lottery winners in the world than those who got rich on bitcoin.
> buying the dip
Which dip? It is nothing, I need x1000000000000, not x 1.25 or I am not buying anything.

>>507959228
proud 0.000000001% :)

Where we at now, /pol/?

>>507952553
People don’t usually buy a full coin so really bitcoin is infinitely fractioned.

>>507950172
I hear ya.
I'm out, they can have it, and the life that comes with it.
Though I fully expect it to be adopted by world governments as the new gold standard.
The corpos have bought hard and we all know who pulls our politicians strings.

>>507959228
>Which dip? It is nothing, I need x1000000000000, not x 1.25 or I am not buying anything.
The dip in the near future. If the BTC USD price drops to $65,000 buy as much s you can then. In a year you would more than double your investment.

>>507960114
>If the BTC USD price drops to $65,000
When?

>>507960296
If I knew that I'd short the fucker. But just keep any eye. Setup everything you need to buy now, and get $100 or whatever and have your own wallet setup.

I think maybe this fall the price might drop. Or not, maybe it's going to $500,000 this year.

>>507951800
>>507950854
The value of the USD is literally reducing by the minute.

>>507949835 (OP)
How the fuck can a computer store value you tard? If everything is fucked enough that you'd need to resort to something like that, you wouldn't be able to use the computer in the first place!

>>507958527
Ross Ulbricht has a Nostr account on primal.net - he was invited by Jack Dorsey.
Nostr is a decentralized social network that integrates with the Bitcoin lightning network. There are literal neonazis on Nostr! Sending each other anonymous hate payments

>>507959542
>everything is linear

>>507953658
>>507952553
Lmao this
>Today, (((their))) real enemy is the people’s potential to adopt sound money like Bitcoin, breaking free from centralized control
>somehow they still let you exchange crypto for money out of their own banks.
They control EVERYTHING you can and cannot do but not that one thing that allegedly scares them the most
Lmao, cryptotards are such morons. MUH BAGS, I too have millions in GTA5 and that's about the value your shitcoins have, get rekt.

>>507949835 (OP)
you held btc from 1k to 100k and you think 1m is a pipe dream and unrealistic because you can't buy a big king with it directly?

why are you posting this thread again?

>>507949835 (OP)
>He sold?
Poomp eet

>too poor to afford a whole bitcoin

>>507949835 (OP)
It’s to buy drugs,thats the value. You‘re either into illegal shit or profit off it,just Like a kike

BTCtards telling you they are rich while forgetting the currency that they compare it to and use to cash out if they are lucky.

>more retarded anti crypto talking points
Why would you need privacy when buying a burger at a store? Crypto is for secure shopping on the internet.

>>507949835 (OP)
you can pay with crypto in my third world shithole supermarket, you can't do that in the US?

kek

>>507949835 (OP)
BTC serves as an fiat inflationary relief valve
People pumping money into this are going to get rugpulled again, probably soon
This is all orchestrated to obliterate money in the economy

>>507958557
A big disadvantage that you didn't mention is that as soon as people stop believing it has value, it immediately loses all value
Gold and silver still have uses beyond trade or "stores of value"

>>507949835 (OP)
lots of big brands are enabling Bitcoin Lightning network payments.

Bitcoin is the anti-scam. Fiat money and Fractional Banking are the real Scam.

>>507960114
>>507960414
Or maybe it falls to 0 after power outage? Who the fuck "invests" all he has to maybe x2 it and pay half of it in taxes or lose everything forever? It's called gambling you moron, you can go to casino and bet everything on red, hell it is actually more rational.

lol, does no one do even the most remedial research?
<<<---this Fed paper said if BTC were allowed to carry on as it is, then the US government would have to balance its budget and BTC would eventually go to zero, lol
The Fed is now proposing a “Permanent Primary Deficits” scheme so they may continue to bankrupt the US Treasury with impunity.

BTC provides three functions for the Fed:
1 the destruction of crypto use as a currency
2 a potential global financial crisis
3 BTC market price arbitrage to give one last fleecing to boomers fleeing the Federal Reserve Note

The Genius Act was passed in the senate yesterday and still has to pass the house.

The NYFed and its ilk are now trying to convince the boomers to switch from private Federal Reserve-issued, debt-based Federal Reserve Notes to privately-issued blockchain tokens. This going to be priceless to watch. Neither of these currency options benefit the citizens, they only benefit the private issuer. Will boomers sell out once again to the banks?
And in the next orchestrated crisis are the boomers’ new asset tokens to become worthless, as the token clearing platform is the final claimant in any crisis or bankruptcy.

>>507960741
>Nostr account on primal.net
primal is just one of several "clients"
the same nostr account can be opened on any client.

So he has an account on nostr, not on primal.

>>507967513
lol same Federal Reserve paper

>>507967564
and this, too

>>507949835 (OP)
Trump just killed the penny because Jews have destroyed its value.

In 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed, establishing the Jewish Federal Reserve System as the central bank of the United States.

Examples of what a penny could buy in 1913:
– A penny could cover the postage for sending a postcard.
– A penny could purchase a half dozen eggs.
– A penny could afford a small candy bar or piece of candy.
– A penny could be used for a short bus or train ride within the city.
– A penny could purchase a small, everyday item at a general store.

Trump has signed executive orders over the last few months supporting Jewish cryptocurrency.

Crypto + Digital ID + Social Credit = A digital trap the “Goyim” cannot escape

and this is what europe thinks of BTC
the whole paragraph is bad, which is why nothing is underlined

>>507949835 (OP)
>fuck this scam shit
Ha, yeah!!! Thats how I felt back in 08 when /b/ was telling me to by into this scam!!! Imagine if I would have just droped a $100 and let it be... But yeah I wouldn't buy now, you got to look into smaller coins

>>507967743

crapto is done. Its a last attempt by the boomer scam to fleece. A shame nobody listens to them and they destroyed their propaganda apparatus in 20/21 for the previous bail out.

They bet big on bringing trump back would give crapto legitimacy, same as with getting the 1993ff scammer like Black rock on board. Failed. The next stage is the normalization of political assassinations that will likely go over to full fledged pogroms against the profiteers of the Boomer scam.

Anarchy. They chose dead. Never play a V of V

>>507967799
>bringing trump back would give crapto legitimacy,
<<<---July 2019
he flip flopped before it even got started lol

I am yet to hear how BTC isn't jewish by design, and I am yet to understand how do "muh zog fears the bitcoin" idiots think they'll spend it now that jew-ruled countries like USA adopt it.

What you're suggesting, or hoping for, is this weird scenario where you show up to town with bags full of money, and the town just started enforcing taxes. You show up and start spending, thinking nobody is gonna ask you where you get that money from, hahahaha.

These retarded idiots think that once BTC becomes full zog (officially, I mean) you think you'll be able to spend satoshis....on a whim? You fucking DUMB retard. Plus, you have to be extremely retarded, if you're even slightest aware of kikes, to support blockchain aka the ETERNAL database.

But I guess that's what people do when they're after short term gains like rabbits, R selection idiots. Muh digital money trade went UP, and it's because of REAL market not because of USDT scam! BASED!!

>>507968165
>flip flop
and he obviously didn't know that BTC mining was illegal in china when he wrote this, either

>>507967799
Based! Every NPC has already forgotten about TrumpCoin and MelaniaCoin. Trump is literally a jeet-tier MLM Ponzi scammer, presidency is just his side hustle.

>>507968253
>ETERNAL database.
you can say that again

Trump, Musk, Visa, and the NYFed's largest primary dealers are working toward a tokenized-asset platform out of the new Texas stock exchange. Trump and Musk have been quietly working with some of the NYFed’s primary dealers and other fintech players to cement a new global, digital platform with DIGITAL WALLETS (which inherently require a DIGITAL ID) after the big banks and the SEC, etc just spent four years calling crypto a scam and killing off any undesired blockchain competition.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/499902179
^^^^ITT^^^, I outline how this asset-tokenization scheme is designed and its intended consolidation of Federal Reserve Uniparty power behind the scenes out of public view, as Musk and Trump claim the elimination of corruption and fraud, while eliminating any blockchain competition and simultaneously trying to establish a new need for their digital wallets and digital IDs.

As Trump and Musk superficially criticize the poor accounting, waste and fraud in the US government, they conveniently omit that JPM is the account validator for these fraudulent US government contracts/accounts and they ALSO never admit that the BANKRUPT, private 12 Federal Reserve franchises are the US government’s fiscal agents, cutting the 'untraceable' fraudulent checks.

Instead of identifying and rooting out the real financial entities facilitating this waste and fraud, Musk and Trump actively blame the ballooning debt and deficit spending on everything BUT Fed ‘accommodation’ and QE, while they simultaneously aid the 2008 banking failures in their current looting of our US Treasury via IORB and RRP, their further acquisition of tangible assets and their destruction of the value of our labor and national currency.

pic rel
Musk and his MOTHER privately met with Dimon and 200 of JPM's largest investors in Miami on Thurs Feb 6th, days before he began his 'audits' of the US Treasury and USAID revelations.

>>507968421
says the country getting paid to hide money
>negative rates here we come

>>507949835 (OP)
It became an investment for the purpose of destroying it

The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.
pic related: JPMC is JPM, the largest owner of the NYFed private franchise
The NYFed-ilk BlackRock and Citadel have just opened a new exchange in Texas, where there are no capital gains on metals.
So, they are likely looking to have some con that involves switching from one asset class token to another (from treasuries tokens to MBS tokens to metals tokens) via blockchain asset tokens, then leaving with their gold assets with no capital gains.
These asset tokens would also allow fractional ownership, so they can fleece even the poorest investor.

Central banks are now acquiring gold to back their own currencies, NOT to convert from gold to digital, but to give them a seat at the NYFed/BIS/IMF TOKENIZED ASSET table
the global pie is getting bigger for these classists, as they sell each of their own nation's future productivity, making the domestic pie much smaller for each citizen.

pic rel is also an excellent documentary

>>507968165
Crapto was a fever dream of the first third time the 1974 pyramid scheme should have crashed. The believe that with Gramscian Propaganda Methods people could be scammed into a currency reform and a financial panopticon.

They fucked up and misjudged how broken the propaganda system already was. No currency reform, there is not even internal unity on the issue. Trump decided to play the game for his own sake. When the boomer pyramid scheme comes down and there is no currency reform, the result is deterministic, anarchy, pogroms the corrections of the mistakes after 1945 and 1990
>>507968421
>NPC
kys communist

>>507967475
>Or maybe it falls to 0 after power outage?
That's not how BTC work.
>Who the fuck "invests" all he has
Clearly some diversification would be a good idea, but if you have effectively no savings or investments than putting up a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
>and pay half of it in taxes
Crypto generally gets taxed as a capital return. In Canada I only pay taxes on half of it and can keep it under my personal exemption limit and pay no taxes on it.
>or lose everything forever?
Literally every investment including treasury bonds technically.
>It's called gambling you moron
It's not.

So is it time to sell? I bought ETH at 1800 (then it went to 1400...), I wanted to sell at 2800 but then I forgot and it went down to 2500. Feels anti-value to sell now. But whenever I see idiots shilling it like that Australia flag I feel (((they))) are trying to get idiots to buy it so they can sell. Then again it works the other way around too, everyone else here is saying it's just a scam but they may be just sensible people.

>>507968723
<<<-----The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.
>what is safe harbor?

they are aiming for tokenization backed by debt, traded in their new blackrock and citadel TX exchange

the Trump administration is now suggesting for big debt holders to convert their treasuries into 'century' bonds, which are 100 year bonds, so we may indebted to these failing, bankrupt scumbags for another 100 years, skimming off our labor and resources

>>507968801
>putting up a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
To what end? 1 sq m grows in price every day, I will never be able to afford even a fucking bathroom of a house neither by working nor by (((investing))) a few hundred bucks. We live in a rigid class system, you can change your class if you get very lucky, but it is 100x less likely than it was getting from slave to senator in Ancient Rome.

>>507969128
>class
oh commutard

>>507969203
> t. temporarily embarassed billionaire
Nah you are just a retarded goy slave.

>>507969467
You are religious universalistic freak that believes in 19th century fairy tales. Your religion is over, your priests are nobodies. The epistem of the book, the expert is over.

>>507968786
crypto has two legit use cases
1 NFTs (which can revolutionize authentication and chain of title, i have been saying this for years)
2 smart contracts
and these two forms can have a place in our currency
there will never be JUST ONE FORM of ANY currency
Remember, ANY strong, NATIONAL currency HAS MANY FORMS, never just one (fiat paper, metal bars and coins, digital, check, money order, smart contracts, NFTs…)

i thoroughly enjoyed and have appreciated young coders absolutely eviscerating the Fed's monopoly on currency while the Fed flopped around impotently like a fish out of water, but crypto will not replace cash, ever

the people hold the power now, they just don't use it
we could all stop every scheme they have make them entirely worthless, simply by using cash as much as possible and leaving your phone at home more often
but people will not do this, even though they can and it is very simple

let me throw this in:
Sweden's 7-year, 98.8% cash-free, CBDC pilot just failed
Swedish officials said a sole-CBDC was a national security threat, only enriched the already-rich and cut the vulnerable entirely out of society.
fucking kek
pic rel

>>507969782
geez how about central-banking-free P2P cash
maybe there's a use-case to add

agree with the others

need a trusted irreversible chain for that
with BIG ASS blocks too
wonder who has that

>>507950680
>have gold
>dollar crashes
>food scarcity
>but my shiny rocks have value
>killed and raided by people who bought guns and ammo over gold
>shiny rocks return back to the earth

>>507968786
>No currency reform, there is not even internal unity on the issue.
<<<---this is what they will be pushing next

>>507969987
>central-banking-free P2P cash
this is the best and called US Notes in our country
this what i advocate for, not to borrow our currency anymore from the bankrupt fed

>>507969782
>NFT
lol its a hash in a wonky distributed database linked to "something" like a .png on a cloud server that can be replaced by a .gif of a dick any moment
>shart contracts
oh please. Same thing again, wonky scripts on wonkier databases. A python script with some acausal functions is a better choice.
>people hold power
over what?
>CBDC
yeah dead in the water - a currency reform requires legitimacy through trust (and propaganda) or force projection. The current organization making up the "state" lack both internally. The outcome is deterministic

>>507949835 (OP)
>100k for a bitshit token
Not buying your heavy bags kikes

I must say btcs recent activity is fucking boring, i dont think we're ever getting a large movement independant from the stock exchange again, and it seems like ETH has tied itself to btc now and mirrors it almost perfectly but is much less than it "should have been"

Having said that I brought in at about 60% less than wjat it costs now so I made some good cash and ill hold put another year i think, incase Im wrong

>>507970065
push through what. Parilamentary bodies that are largely ignored, executive organizations that are corrupt and disfunctional to the bone, a judiciary that is considered illegitimate by over 50% of the population. Maybe a propaganda apparatus that is largely ignored and considered illegitimate?

Private bailed out cooperations that nobody trusts?
The plan must have looked AA+ in 2008/9 with the data on boomers and GenX, but 16 years later it looks like a failure

>>507970250
>yeah CBDC is dead in the water
um not in europe
lol

they're just using you guys for another CBDC pilot
but they always fail, all of them and this is b/c people in the financial sector always cheat

cash use has increased since the pandemic and the demand for large denomination notes too

>>507970499
here is the main article
Ubyx

>>507970612

>>507970561
>1.3M "impressions"
>under 10K interactions
Its an attempt by organizations that are illegitimate, largely ignored and lack the resources and capital to enforce their fever dreams
>cash used increase
yes, naturally. Trust ratings or rather mistrust ratings for all post 1945/90 institutions are in the shitter. Mistrust among 15 - 35 year olds reached 80% with the last May readings

>>507969128
>To what end?
I've been telling people on 4chan for more than 13 years to buy BTC if they have some extra money but didn't think they had enough to make a "worth while" investment. If everyone that read my posts even 7 years ago bought $100 worth they would each be a millionaire.

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and
>the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:
>is permissionless
>is private
>is anonymous
>has no transaction fees
>works in power outages
>doesn’t need the internet
>don't need to be a coder to use it
>doesn't depend on another party having a device
>everyone knows exactly how much they have
>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting
>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport
>is inclusive, it does not see race
>is harder to use in ransoms
>can’t be hacked
>don’t need to remember a password to use it
>IS the ultimate in payment platforms
>using cash helps people to save money and budget
>puts the power directly in the hands of the people
>keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services
>less paperwork
>is face to face, not face to screen
>makes government theft harder
>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizens

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.

>>507970499
>Parilamentary bodies that are largely ignored
i wasn't talking about a law
i was talking about a platform

>>507970612
>>507970697
>Bloomberg
irrelevant.
They reach nobody

>>507970499
>cooperations?
was this a freudian slip?

>>507949964
I knew about it in 2012. It was just a nerd thing like linux meets libertarianism. In 2014 it was generally conaidered that you had missed the big growth. By 2016 it was obvious it was shit as a crypto. Monero came out and killed it. So they switched to saying it was a store of value to pump it. Then it went mainstream.
I sold when I doubled my money... but bought a house which did well.

<<<---This is the debt they want to back their new stablecoins with

<<<--Why is the NOW over $1.1 Trillion/year in interest paid on our Marketable (aka Public Issues) and Intragovernmental Debt (aka GAS treasuries) never included in the deficit?
B/c the Fed gets paid first by the IRS, as the NYFed is the US Treasury's operating fiscal agent, then what is left over from IRS tax revenues, the NYFed then deposits into the Treasury General Account (aka TGA).
IOW, the fucking interest is taken out FIRST from tax revenues by the NYFed AND IS NEVER EVEN ON THE DEFICIT CHOPPING BLOCK.

With a red sweep, we will be able to see the Federal Reserve Uniparty in full view. Constant gridlock in Congress has concealed the true power of the Federal Reserve Uniparty.
Don’t forget that the right had prior full control for at least a year under Trump’s first term and passed NOTHING in regard to the INSOLVENT, private Fed franchises that are now bankrupting the US Treasury for every last dime they can get (mostly the NYFed).

Why don't we just issue US Notes ONLY for deficit spending? US Notes BENEFIT THE CITIZENS and DO NOT ADD TO our current debt. They could also be digital, only to be used in the US. Why don’t Musk and Trump ever suggest this? This is already fucking legal.
US Notes circumvent the need to borrow our currency from the Federal Reserve, that's fucking why.
Why do ALL of the proposed solutions to our debt only include the bankrupt Federal Reserve?

US NOTES ARE NOT A NOVEL IDEA, THEY JUST DON'T BENEFIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, WHICH IS WHY US NOTES ARE NEVER MENTIONED DESPITE BEING THE EXACT SOLUTION THAT WE NEED RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>507970903
There are two ways "something" is going to be accepted, platform, organization, flavor. If there is demand or if there is a centralized organization that is able to push it.

There is no demand and the organization that is supposed to push it, the unholy public-private communist alliance of bailed out banks, corpos ans Boomer Media, and "state" organizations lack the means to enforce demand

>>507949964
>You knew about bitcoin 15 years ago and you're still poor? Kek
ironically, this is the very reason people don't invest in non-stablecoin crypto tokens, b/c first-in buyers have all the advantage, as saw with Milei pump and dump using solana

>>507950202
if some of them aren't short funds you're gonna get rug pulled either way.

Did you know a lot of solid companies are at 1990s lows? Now is a good time to choose individual stocks that will hold value through a crash.

>>507971236
<<<---fucking kek and a few days later

>>507971082
we already have something that works and we are about to return to it

>>507971082
your country, too, longs for cash

debt-based central banks are going to become a thing of the past
currency issued in the form of debt, as we have today, is doomed to fail (as it is now)
once a currency is used as an investment, it is no longer useful as a currency
the treasury market globally will become meaningless
nations will begin to use their own debt-free sovereign currencies issued by their treasuries
the Fed will eventually be dissolved
the US Treasury will issue debt-free US Notes again

Currency backed by labor (productivity and services) makes a nation strong
Currency backed by debt makes a nation slaves

>>507970561
Central-bank digital currencies (CBDCs) repackage the status-quo in a shinier wrapper: instead of paper notes clearing through commercial banks, units just move across a centrally controlled ledger, but the hands on the levers remain the same. The group that already monopolises money creation—commercial banks backstopped by central banks—simply upgrades its interface while preserving the real privilege: deciding who gets fresh purchasing power first and who bears the inflation later. Whether the tokens are booked as explicit debt or hidden behind euphemisms, the underlying model still funnels value upward through perpetual issuance fees, negative real rates and selective credit channels. Ordinary people gain no exit from the quietly compounding “inflation tax,” only a more granular surveillance layer that can freeze or nudge behaviour at will. That’s why the logical response isn’t to wait for a kinder version of the same top-down architecture, but to build parallel, voluntary networks—community currencies, peer-to-peer settlement rails, local supply chains—where rules arise from consent rather than decree.

>>507971345
KEK
you are doing the same mistake as your counterparts. You believe that you have the better arguments, are going to be able to enforce demand through rationality, and historical arguments - you consider falsely your idea is universally true.

Here is where you are wrong. There are at least the cbdc freaks, the crapto freaks, the shiny rock freaks, the fiat freaks, the energy freaks, the ....... There is no unity in that regard what currency is supposed to be. You dont realize what it means that the state as a concept failed.

everyone loses, and some wont survive it. Its evolution. The epistem of the experts rational argument doesnt exist anymore when the means of information production and distribution are in the hand of everybody

>>507971585
actually what it boils down to is
THEY ARE BROKE AND CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO PRINT FIAT and manage it
lol

their operating costs are half of their insolvency

they had one fucking job, to provide the citizens with fucking cash and they can't EVEN DO THAT
pic definitely fucking related lol

The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve franchise collateralizes their worthless Federal Reserve Notes with US treasuries (aka securities).
The 12 Fed franchises are now bankrupt and don't have enough collateral to request more fiat. It is being suggested now to take regional Fed shareholder capital or even regional Fed owner’s assets to back their worthless Federal Reserve Notes under Section 2 of the Federal Reserve Act.

Every uncollateralized Federal Reserve Note being issued today is a lien on the assets (and shareholder capital) of the now-bankrupt NYFed's owners, including its largest owner, JPM.
How is JPM making record profits when the NYFed's private franchise ITSELF is ~$130B in the hole?
Why is JPM still being paid dividends when the NYFed is insolvent?

When money replaces actual success, only the sleazy will be rich.

>>507952553
You delusional fools are why Bitcoin is worth a penny.
currency matters more than store of value. A store of value is worth something only so long as it is based on a currency - whatever people use for daily transactions that keeps the entire economy going.
Tell me, how can I use Bitcoin to buy a bag of potato chips or a cheeseburger.

>>507971959
>their operating costs are half of their insolvency
<<<--now ~$235 B in the hole

>>507972041
<<--2008 failures just robbing us fucking blind to the tune of $2B/week

>>507953864
Hello fellow dot com rememberer.

>>507949835 (OP)
I was doing so good in the crypto markets until like February-march then probably lost everything. I blame Trump and his Jewish cronies it was extreme market manipulation unlike anything I have ever witnessed, great reset tier even. Anyways I'm done with that kike shit now and just hoarding cash and guns

Fed is $231 billion now in the hole
This is what the Fed thinks we have to pay them before they will remit to the US Treasury one fucking cent.
remember, all IRS payments go to the fucking Fed as the Fed is the fiscal agent for the fucking treasury.

>>507955523
Gold will always have some value because the human brain is wired to be attracted to its luster
at a primitive level
>ugg shiny rock. it pretty. me want
not to mention practical industrial uses.
Bitcoin is this generation's WorldCom or railroad bonds.

>>507972022
>A store of value is worth something only so long as it is based on a currency
this isn't true
barter trades value without currency

A thread from a few Sundays ago:
PICREL
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/504503488/
The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve is building a $2.5 B complex in Washington DC and funding it with borrowed US taxpayer money. The Fed is fucking broke and putting Italian beehives in its extravagant rooftop gardens and building private elevators to VIP dining rooms, yet bloviating about the importance of citizens being able to communicate in a republic. lol

To add to the elitism and absurdity, Elon Musk, with his toothless, empty threats on his way out the door of DOGE, glibly stated, “someone should look into the Fed.”
Really? Is that it? What an absolute fucking joke.

It is fucking amazing that Trump’s economic advisor (Miran) wants to now indebt the US with 100 year TOKENIZED bonds, so we can be skimmed for another fucking century by these insolvent frauds.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/27/business/federal-reserve-blows-2-5b-on-palace-of-versailles-hq/
https://archive.is/fpJ4J

this project is 10X more expensive than ANY US GOVT BUILDING EVER

Thread from Feb 6th 2025 194 posts
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496654194

200 post thread from Nov 10 2024
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/487963430/#q487963430

the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) and thus, making US taxpayers’ dollars less available to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs

>>507971698
i'm not arguing with anyone
that would imply i was being challenged
gold is valuable because it doesn't oxidize and is pretty to women

>>507956122
They don't understand that the only purpose for any currency is to facilitate trade between individual buyers and sellers. That will always come first and the value of any hoarded currency can only derive from that.
Bitcoiners are trying to do it backwards. As you point out, their hoarding in the hopes that their stored value will one day be used in daily transactions.
But even a central government can't force it if people decide they don't wanna.
Everyone knows Germany experienced hyperinflation in the 1920s. What they don't know is that a lot of smaller towns issued their own currencies called notgelds. Bitcoin energy demands are way too high to be practical - we can't cover the entire planet in solar panels and dig out every lump of coal to fuel this bullshit.
The most stable currency in history? Tally sticks. Literal sticks.

>>507973020
Makes perfect sense to crash markets constantly and keep people cash poor I should have gone into finance I want a fucking private elevator to a restaurant

>>507973506
>sticks.
good post
and we can use sticks of gold to back us notes, too
i have to go to work
see you anons laters
ty 4chan for your free speech

>>507973591
>I want a fucking private elevator to a restaurant
kek look at fed official salaries, much higher compared to even the professional class lol

>>507958557
If there is a genuine collapse the value of any digital anything goes to zero.
In a genuine collapse (not that I believe one is coming any time soon) the only thing that will really hold value are practical skills and people skills. Being able to lead and inspire loyalty in others will be the number one skill. Or trusting in God. Because anything, material can be gone with one organized raid.

>>507950172
>>507959611
Sell signal >>507967273

I believe in bitcoin in the long term, but this notion that bitcoin is never going to go through a bear market again is kinda silly. A lot of people are betting the farm, such as microstrategy, and if bitcoin has a real slump and goes back to 40k-50k for a while, they can't hold their leveraged positions.

If you believe bitcoin will only ever go up, go ahead and buy. But if you believe sooner or later there has to be some downwards movement, wait for the downwards movement to flush out all of the leverage in the system and buy then. The amount of leverage in bitcoin markets is so insane that if they price just stays around 100k and doesn't rise for a while the leverage itself creates downward pressure.

>>507973383
>clinging onto a narrative that is fossilized
lol. Boomers are literally the most retarded generation the planet has generated for 150K years.
>Please use my shiny rock
lol

Trump coin, Trump NFT, Trump watch, Trump phone,

>>507971061
Trump was probably our last hope to implement this, fucking sell out kike loving bitch

>>507975667

jewmericans are such scum it's beyond belief...

I just asked GPT for pic rel

>>507969128
>but it is 100x less likely than it was getting from slave to senator in Ancient Rome.
It is way easier for a poorfag to become middle upper class in America than it was for a Roman slave to become a patrician.

>>507949835 (OP)
Op its volatile as fuck and legitimised for capital gains... sell rebuy when it caves and u offset your annual cgt.
Maybe thats illegal tho idk

>>507951048
But those places don't use the bitcoin to replenish their stock. They're just hodling bitcoin. It isn't a circular currency and never will be.

>>507954393
>what is the competency crisis
Frequent power outages happen more often than you think. What do you reckon will happen when the old boomers who know how to fix things die off?

>>507955523
Gold isn't a currency, never was and never will be. Same as all current cryptos.

>>507958454
Silver and gold were never currency as a universal form of payment. They competed with 99% of the people trading beans for eggs. Cryptos have this same limitation. They can only exist as a part of a fragmented payment space.

>>507977506
>Gold isn't a currency, never was and never will be
What? Gold coinage was currency for millennia, there's a reason here in America gold and silver coinage is the only tender states can make legal.

>>507977914
I meant currency as defined today, a universal form of payment. Gold was never that. Only monarchs traded in gold. Everyone else traded in goods for goods.

Threads like this are how we know bitcoin is still a good buy. It will climb the wall of worry until everyone capitulates and buys in. Then and only then can the rug pull begin.

>>507978333
Universal form of payment doesn't exist today either, a USD is not accepted as currency in Japan, neither is a JPY in America. Anyways, silver coinage was essentially a universal currency to the common people of Western Eurasia beyond basic bartering. Gold on the other hand was too rare to be a currency.

>>507950179
bro how do i do this ive been gambling on solana shitccoins on phantom for like a year and still havent figured out how to figure out which meme with 100 clones is going to take off. every time a good one comes along i buy it and some 5th copy with a different CA gets all the attention and i make noting

>>507957796
And TrumpCoin, MelaniaCoin.

Change regulatory rules instead of a finance vehicle, it's treated like beanie babies.

For every crypto millionaire there are millions of people at a loss. It's basically a scam, like the national lottery. 99% of the times , people who are the actual 'winners' are either insiders,have inside info or part of the coin, the 1% is the lucky ones out of the 0.0000000000001% that is at profit.

Kuddos, if you made money out of it, but if you still haven't realized that crypto is huge bs, I am sorry for you. It's like if they gather every lottery winner from all over the world for the past 10 years, they will gather hundreds of people saying how good lottery is and how it changed their life for good etc etc.

Being in crypto is literally a red flag for being a easy to convince retard.

>>507978613
>Threads like this are how we know bitcoin is still a good buy.
>Then and only then can the rug pull begin.

Both saying it's good to invest into it, but there will be a rug pull. So it's not a good investment, because you are aware a rug pull is coming?
Stap talking shit you have no idea about.

>>507980327
Yeah, definitely stick to real estate and stock index funds. Get the largest mortgage you can possibly qualify for. It’s the only legitimate way to get rich.

Bitcoin was created by Jewish bankers and glowniggers and was meant mainly to normalize and test digital "currency" and syphon off goy liquidity. Its not private, secure or a good store of wealth and its not going to make it through the forthcoming solar events and false flags.

>be me autistic 25yo seeking nostalgia
>killing cows in RS making a pure STR
>guy chats me up, asks if i'm a bot, asks if i want to bot
>gives me his full personal deets, social number yada yada, so I can use his scripts account
>took a big risk, didn't have to
>i pay for some of the scripts
>be good friends
>its expensive
>life situations took a turns for both of us, i got a kid, he got his son back from his ex
>he sold his pc
>writes me outta nowhere a week ago asking for ten bucks for some emergency hotdogs
>send him a twenty that i can spare

Millionaires, please paypal 10 bucks to my friend Thomas, shits rough and he could use sauce on the hotdogs.
Thank you.

thomasleeblankenship@gmail.com

>>507949964
I knew bitcoin when you could mine half docen in a night on a personal computer, it was at 7-12c the first time I saw it here, still poor.

>>507980972
Non of those are "good "investments in a naturally deflationary environment - go shill somewhere else. If it needs advertising, it has apparently not the demand necessary to be worth anything

>>507949835 (OP)
>eing able to walk into a store and buy a burger
Transaction fees are higher than with real bank using swift, it's comical really.

>>507950172
This anon is correct. Pol is always right, except when it comes to Bitcoin.

>>507980972
>It’s the only legitimate way to get rich
Not inheriting wealth from parents. Amateur.

>>507980972
I buy cheap stollen gold from gypsies that go to Western Europe to do crime, smelt it into bars and resell it for market price. I find it way better hustle than stacking crypto.

>>507981900
>buy my bag
>because there is an ad
lol

>>507982113
All civilization is a pyramid scheme it's up to you to decide which parts to buy into.

>>507983585
>civilization
you mean a cult of socialists who run out of collateral? Non obviously