>>514063591
>ea, fiat currency is unsustainable
no, debt-based fiat is unsustainable

'fiat' isn't the problem
WHO IS ISSUING the 'fiat' IS THE PROBLEM and that the Fed's private fiat IS INTEREST-BEARING is the fucking problem

FIAT, CREDIT-BASED INTEREST-FREE US NOTES ISSUED BY THE US TREASURY WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND ARE INTENDED TO BE AN INTEREST-FREE TOOL TO FACILITATE COMMERCE

FIAT, DEBT-BASED, USURIOUS, INTEREST-BEARING FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES ARE FUCKING BORROWED FROM THE PRIVATELY-INCORPORATED NY FEDERAL RESERVE FRANCHISE AND ONLY ENRICH THE NYFED’S PRIMARY DEALERS AND THEIR CRONY/POLITICAL ILK AND ENSLAVE THE POPULATION IN BOND DEBT

Fiat is given value BY A NATION'S CITIZENS.
If the nation's treasury is the one issuing it, fiat is not a problem.

>>513823160
>Selling bonds is not a borrowing operation
i agree, debt-based currencies are doomed to fail

>>512694269
so i did watch that
i was rather disappointed
mr werner obviously believes that debt-backed currency is normal, thus in the trash it went
werner was useful to explain the architecture, but when it comes down to a treasury issuing its own currency he is clueless
and tucker, too, never once mentions US Notes
both tucker and mr werner only propose NYFed-run solutions

>>512241788
I'm laughing from the view of returning to the gold standard

>>511365289
no, fiat issued by a nation's treasury BENEFITS the citizens
fiat issued by the Fed is BORROWED

'fiat' isn't the problem
WHO IS ISSUING the 'fiat' IS THE PROBLEM and that the Fed's private fiat IS INTEREST-BEARING is the fucking problem

FIAT, CREDIT-BASED INTEREST-FREE US NOTES ISSUED BY THE US TREASURY WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND ARE INTENDED TO BE AN INTEREST-FREE TOOL TO FACILITATE COMMERCE

FIAT, DEBT-BASED, USURIOUS, INTEREST-BEARING FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES ARE FUCKING BORROWED FROM THE PRIVATELY-INCORPORATED NY FEDERAL RESERVE FRANCHISE AND ONLY ENRICH THE NYFED’S PRIMARY DEALERS AND THEIR CRONY/POLITICAL ILK AND ENSLAVE THE POPULATION IN BOND DEBT

Fiat is given value BY A NATION'S CITIZENS.
If the nation's treasury is the one issuing it, fiat is not a problem.

Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste.
If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.

But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:
community
family
work ethic
intellect
fitness
perseverance
cleanliness
honesty
integrity
compassion
tradition
loyalty
reliability
patience
humor
If you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.
Judge yourself by deed, not possession.

Money does not make food.
Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.
MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.
We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.

first world and third world are about to become second world
only the lazy will be uncomfortable
>lazy skimmers dread real price discovery
tick tock
Good day /pol/
see you anons next time

debt-based central banks are going to become a thing of the past
currency issued in the form of debt, as we have today, is doomed to fail (as it is now)
once a currency is used as an investment, it is no longer useful as a currency
the treasury market globally will become meaningless
nations will begin to use their own debt-free sovereign currencies issued by their treasuries
the Fed will eventually be dissolved
the US Treasury will issue debt-free US Notes again

Currency backed by labor (productivity and services) makes a nation strong
Currency backed by debt makes a nation slaves

>>509689171
he has a good point about gold

Is a 0% FFR the same as a debt-free currency?

>>509619827
for many reasons
you can't graduate unless you can teach
knowledge is worthless without the ability to convey it

>>509526347
labor is the real gold

>>509390486
>Currency backed by debt makes a nation slaves.

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and
>the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:
>is permissionless
>is private
>is anonymous
>has no transaction fees
>works in power outages
>doesn’t need the internet
>don't need to be a coder to use it
>doesn't depend on another party having a device
>everyone knows exactly how much they have
>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting
>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport
>is inclusive, it does not see race
>is harder to use in ransoms
>can’t be hacked
>don’t need to remember a password to use it
>IS the ultimate in payment platforms
>using cash helps people to save money and budget
>puts the power directly in the hands of the people
>keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services
>less paperwork
>is face to face, not face to screen
>makes government theft harder
>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizens

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.

debt-based central banks are going to become a thing of the past
currency issued in the form of debt, as we have today, is doomed to fail (as it is now)
once a currency is used as an investment, it is no longer useful as a currency
the treasury market globally will become meaningless
nations will begin to use their own debt-free sovereign currencies issued by their treasuries
the Fed will eventually be dissolved
the US Treasury will issue debt-free US Notes again

Currency backed by labor (productivity and services) makes a nation strong
Currency backed by debt makes a nation slaves

The Fed seeks to rob us of the ONE THING we have left, our labor.

>>507579429
we shouldn't be borrowing our own currency from these bankrupt frauds, it isn't that hard to understand
party is over
tick tock
>lazy skimmers dread real price discovery