>>508144789 (OP)
trained fighters easily dominate muscled-out gymheads who are not trained fighters

>>508144789 (OP)
Well what?
Even a semi-trained fighter could take down most roidniggers. That is assuming the roidnigger doesn't have a heart attack or something beforehand.

>>508144789 (OP)
Big arms don't make you immune to punches, Anon.
It only takes one bad hit to kill you.
Don't get into useless fights.

>>508144789 (OP)
well what?
GGG is one of the best boxers of this era and former champion and dabbled in wrestling, roidnigger stands no chance

>>508144789 (OP)
A much bigger man will usually win a fight. Golovkin doesn't even knockout guys his own size.

>>508144789 (OP)
Sounds pretty tough. Wait a minute, I’m American! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>508145503
You are retarded. Size difference that big makes a massive difference. Weight classes exist for a reason. There's a possibility Golovkin could win but there's also a very large possibility Donald knocks his ass out or tackles him to the ground and pummels him.

>>508144789 (OP)

..my left or your left?

>>508144789 (OP)
Breeder thread

>>508144789 (OP)
GGG was the best.

>>508144956
Fpbp

>>508144956
300lb aaron donald isn't losing a street fight, dude used to throw around 6'8" 350lb offensive linemen 2 at a time and is quicker than most skill guys and for reference, when brock lesnar tried out for the minnesota vikings at the same position, he got demolished in camp because he was just way too small. there isn't a 300lb boxing category because there aren't 300lb boxers

>>508144789 (OP)
Trained fighters can do some damage. I've seen small trained scrappers literally take out a room full of people and barely break a sweat. Dude made the papers for whooping the crap out of the whole population of a hotel because they were fucking with his dad.

>>508146095
training how to fight is not the same as training to play football. he can dominate skill guys in FOOTBALL because of his size and also his football skill. Meanwhile a trained fighter will know how to anticipate his movements, hit his weak spots, use his momentum, and generally out-think him. If you find this interesting go get trained to fight. You'll immediately understand the difference.

>>508144956
I've seen exhibition wrestling/ Jujitsu matches on Youtube were 135 pound wrestler we'll take the back of a 250 plus bodybuilder and choke them out within a minute

>>508146095
Exactly. Usually I’m all for trained fighter vs jacked idiot. But Aaron Donald is like you said.

I’d like to see khabib wrestle Aaron Donald. I’m sure he’d fuck him in the ass in no time despite strength size advantagw. But ggg has boxing skill but not wrestling(I assume)

>>508144789 (OP)
Ist actually incredibly easy to understand if you know how roids work, and if you know that almost every guy who looks like this is on gear.

>>508145503
>GGG is one of the best boxers of this era and former champion and dabbled in wrestling, roidnigger stands no chance
based knower
>>508145780
>There's a possibility Golovkin could win
no there's not
>>508146095
golovkin would wipe the floor with him easily. for a pro boxer of his caliber fighting an amateur like ur guy is like shooting fish in a barrel because they are just begging to be destroyed from every angle at all times without them being even aware of it

>>508146034
>GGG was the best.
He was something to watch for sure. Something about that first Canelo fight didn't sit right with me.

>>508146746
i'm sorry i misread your post as 'could not win'

>>508144789 (OP)
GGG would fuck that faggot up.

>>508144789 (OP)
Maxine being stupid enough to get into a street fight.

>>508145660
>Golovkin doesn't even knockout guys his own size.
42-2-1 37 wins by ko.

>>508144789 (OP)
That goofy ahh wyteboi doesnt stand a chance, sure he might be able to get a weak suckerpunch or two, but once that blacc bull gets a hold of him he done

>>508144789 (OP)
fighting is about quick reaction and hitting fast and hard on vulnerable points to win fast, so being roided won't help.
That being said, a street fight is whole thing, you can be an MMA champion and get your throat slit in a second, or shot, or whatever, because unlike faggy MMA there are no rules in the real world and you better save your ass

>>508145746
yeah it's a reason we invented weapons and wars are not just 100k boxing fights at once

>>508146095
lesnar didn't get cut because of size he got as far as he did because of his size, wrestling background, and athleticism

>>508146228
What should one train? There are too many options out there. Just MMA to have a all-around knowledge?

Both would lose against a suicidally depressed incel with bombs tied to himself

>>508148159
Whatever you have access to.
Learn from everything.

>>508144956
This is pure cope and navel gazing. Numbers and weapons win 9/10 times, the other 1/10 comes down to aggression, power, and speed.

t. MMAfag, amateur fighter, bouncer who was in enough and saw enough street fights to know “trained fighter” fags are full of shit

>>508146337
Body builders aren’t professional athletes

>>508145780
This anon is correct

>>508144956
Specificity of training. I thought this concept only befuddled midwit redditors. Train to fight, be good at fight. Train for hypertrophy, have impressive muscles in a photo. Simple as.

I don’t know where MMAfags get their delusional self confidence from but boxing and jiu jitsu skills mean fuck all when you get a bottle cracked over your head by your opponent’s friends or when a guy twice as big and fast as you slams your spine into the concrete while you try to arm bar him.

>>508146095
>Brock Lesnar is 6'5, 287lbs = too small
>Aaron Donald is 6'1, 284lbs = big
unironically, what did you mean by this, anon?

>>508144789 (OP)
What? WTF are you gonna do? You're gonna get shot, that's what. Right in the fucking face.

>>508146337
Joyce Gracie back when UFC was legit.

>>508148650
Dude shut the fuck up. An MMA fighter can crack you with a bottle too and his striking skills will translate to doing so.

What if someone had big muscles *and* knew how to fight. If youre bigger youre going to be able to close the gap from skill faster than if youre just some DEX maxxer

>>508146095
Sapp lost to Big Nog

>>508144789 (OP)
you have to be retarded to think one of the most athletic DL 6ft 270lb lean will lose to a 150lb cracker.

Lmaooo

Many football players wrestled as kids too

>>508148833
>*gets charged by the faggot legal system for murder*
Sorry kiddo

>>508148650
Its likely that a pro MMA fighter would be able to handle himself against someone larger to much larger but only to a point, but these weekend warrior amateurs would really only have an advantage against someone their size or smaller under ideal circumstances and would likely get beaten up by someone larger or stronger.

>>508145804
>me on the left

t.Glenn Danzig

>>508148871
An MMA fighter can get shot.

>>508149091
>Your honor and people of the jury, just look at that thing.

>>508149091
You missed the point. Just because you're really fit and know martial arts means nothing when bullets move faster and hit harder.
This isn't Dragon Ball Z.

>>508144956
Didnt some mediocre casual MMA dude kill the Russian IWF record holding champ like a decade ago in a streetfight?

>>508145780
Your fucking clueless. Guarantee you've never won a fight, fat retard fag

>>508144789 (OP)

Technique, speed, and experience of the opponent

>>508148611
He's absolutely wrong , wimpy fag

>>508149321
I mean it all kind of means nothing because how often is a grown adult getting into a pitched battle anyway? Noguns and weak men are both probably less likely to get into fights even though first instinct would be theyd get picked out as weak by the predatory but the counterpoint is theyre also not going to have any confidence to start shit in the first place. This isnt an anti 2nd amendment argument btw

>>508146228
Im going to disagree. Its like saying top tier heavy mma trained women cant get their asses mopped by a 250 pound dude with little training.

I mean no rules street fight with an nfl linebacker. Id put 100 on the dude on the right.
In a boxing rings with gloves and rules maybe the boxer wins.

>>508149416
I've beaten up 6 niggers in East Side Buffffalo, nigger

>>508149437
those faggots are drunk

the obese women arent

>>508149184
I mean so can you. You arent bulletproof.

>>508149527
Who the fuck walks around getting into fights? MMA is awesome as a sport, and working out is cool for just discipline and energy, but for actual combat in the world you always use a weapon. Always carry at least one weapon unless you're going into a secure location like a courthouse or such.
Never rely on H2H when a gun or blade will get the job done.

We get it, you have no idea who GGG is.

>>508144789 (OP)
Poor guy on the right is getting slandered on here for NO reason whatsoever. Some ASSHOLE took his pic. and compared him to I guess a boxer.
And yall are dragging HIM through the mud?
Be better.

>>508145189
Not true at all

an NFL player beats the shit out of the amatuer fighter unless you come close to him in weight.

NFL is the most competive sport in the US. top level athletes with top tier genetics.

average person training martial arts has average genes and works a 9 to 5. completely different from knocking over 300lb men for a living

"people" who post retarded shit like that have never been in a fight let alone been rocked and beaten, not a single clue.

>>508149416
There is almost zero chance that boxer beats the yoked out dude unless he swung first by cold cocking him on the button. Chin shot Chuck Liddel style.
Other dude would just grab him and slam him and wreck his shit.
We are talking no rules streetfight.

>>508145746
they say it dont be like it does but it do.

>>508149904
>Muh midget boxer can fersher beat up a 300 lb beast NFL player
Book the fucking fight. He might have a chance now. If Aaron Donald trained MMA for 6 months he would maul GGG to death. They would never sanction it because Golovkin would die.

>>508149803
I mean if you don't have one you can fist fight and honestly fist fights are a good way for men to work out differences one on one. this anon is right and it really isn't for combat but if your trained your hands elbows and feet are almost better than the rock on the ground unless you are going to throw it. soimetimes you just have to fist fight. it happens.

>>508149803
US legal system will punish you for using ccw.

some guy tries to fight you at work, university or at the club youre really gonna stab them? Lmaoo

ironically you can beat the shit out of someone give them CTE and break their ribs and will get less jail time; than brandishing a firearm in public and not even using it.

>muh 140 lb boxer will pitter patter le NFL player to death

>>508144956
>trained fighters easily
>>508146095
>300lb aaron donald isn't losing a street fight
>>508145189
Even a semi-trained fighter could take down most

It's easily to spot the retards that think street fighting is UFC or MMA. If the average guy in the left caughts a punch from the roided fag in the right, it's lights out, if the roided fag in the right does not know how to throw and take a punch, or tripis accidentally, it's lights out.

Now in case the opinionated keyboard command faggots missed the detail, the average looking guy in the left is a professional boxing CHAMPION.
Fags.

>>508149184
True, Shotgun waza is the preferred art.

>>508145189
The amount of young guys blasting roids at my gym is insane. Zoomers may be the most unhealthy generation I have ever seen.

>anons pretend there aren't weight classes

>>508150081
lol. I think just someone who lifts weights would have a way harder time than a football player. yo those guys are next level tough. I would be GGG's hardest punch if it was a suckerpunch couldn't knock out some of those big defenders and line backers and big fast football players who hit for a living lol. the impact from their helmets is garunteed more force psi than GGGs hardest punch. those guys are no joke and yea punches can hurt and kill but in a ring with gear and gloves its not likely. i think some NFL players would smash pro boxers who are in a closer weight class.

>>508149803
>Who the fuck walks around getting into fights? MMA is awesome as a sport, and working out is cool for just discipline and energy, but for actual combat in the world you always use a weapon.
True, very true, *all* martial arts are awesome for sports and character building, street fights and self defense are entirely different thing.
Like pulling a weapon on an unarmed person, I hope you also have awesome lawyers too.

>>508150282
If I need to go to prison to defend my life, you're god damn right I'll kill. Not even a question. What kind of idiot would rather die than take prison time?

>>508146095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poivj-zUCiQ

>>508148506

Trained fighter fags are usually coping. Could young Bas Rutten fuck up much bigger and stronger guys? Yes, sure. But 4chan users who take classes twice a week at the discount dojo are not Bas Rutten and a bigger, stronger guy would push their shit in.

t. 230 lbs, 4 pl8 bench, 1v1 me nonwhite combat kiddies (you’ll lose)

>>508148625
This statement doesn't apply the man pictured in OP tho. Guy is known to be stronger than he looks

>>508150313
this niggers right. they are like athletes atheletes. if you get what im saying. NFL is fucking hardcore shit. NBA players there probably isnt one in the whole league who could win an mma fight lol. NFL im not so sure you can say the same thing. some of them for sure but like real athletes like those fucks won't get beat up by guys that size let alone some little dude.

>>508144956
This is generally true, but there are differences in weight, reach, and strength that no amount of skill can overcome, that's why sanctioned boxing and martial arts matches have weight classes and why trannies are bodying female fighters.

>>508149803
I’ve become increasingly convinced by the Icy Mike take that a gun is generally a terrible self defense weapon and that self defense actually does rely on good hand to hand combat skills. The reason being, the only time you can use a gun effectively in a fight is when there is a target far enough away from you to accurately draw, aim and fire, AND you are rightfully convinced that target is a threat to life and limb and lethal force is justified.

You can’t pull out a gun and blast someone because they’re standing a little too close and you don’t like the way they’re looking at you. But that’s how real fights/muggings/etc go down. People get up in your business in a sketchy way well before they engage in any violence. A gun is of limited use in that scenario.

There are a dozen "off" buttons on the upper body,if Boi can grapple then pedro is as gud as raped

>>508150563
The fact that you even know who Bas Rutten is shows you likely have some understanding of fighting thoughever.

>>508150641
You don't let threats get close to you. Head on a swivel, always be aware of your surroundings and what's happening. Especially around blacks, never fucking relax.

>>508144789 (OP)
I feel GGG might be too old and the weight difference would be too much, but someone like UDIVOL would heem the fuck out of Aaron Donald.

>>508144789 (OP)
Guy on the right is only tough at the gym. In public he's a social butterfly and a nigger.

>>508150820
This is a lot more plausible. Aaron Donald would likely throw a bunch of wild haymakers which could land. If Bivol weathered that storm he could piece Donald up and gas him and score a KO or TKO.

>>508150815
Fine, and sure it’s true that situational awareness and avoiding fights is the best self defense tool. The point is, a gun isn’t useful in most self defense scenarios because by the time it’s appropriate to use it, it’s too late to use it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JidaYEd9PBc

This is actually a really interesting explanation of the concept.

>>508144789 (OP)
GGG would fuck all these fools up. Muscle guys don't have the cardio to last in a fight

Every year since he retired GGG has got heavier and heavier, soon enough it will be two 280lb dudes

>>508145660
>Golovkin doesn't even knockout guys his own size.
You are an absolute moron who knows nothing about boxing if you think GGG doesn't knockout guys. Did you miss his entire run in the 2010s??? He knocked out everyone he fought until he got to Canelo and Canelo needed to be on HGH just to beat him

>>508144789 (OP)
Manlets be like: X manlet fighter can kick your ass, therefore I can too!

>>508149677
Holy cope, Batman

>>508144789 (OP)
GGG
Wins

>>508144789 (OP)
Allen thinking bout them bbceans

>>508148159
Boxing, kickboxing and wrestling. Don't waste your time with Jewjitsu because all you gotta do is stand up

>>508146095
Aaron Donald is only 6'1, that's not enough size/reach diff to defeat Gennady fuckin Golovkin when you have no professional fighting experience.

He'll land one on Donald's chin and put him to sleep before he ever wraps hands around him.

>>508150458
A punch to the head is a punch to the head. Doesn't matter how many muscles you have on your chest.

>>508151460
You need to know basic jiu jitsu to escape subs.

>>508146095
Brock didn't get demolished. His combine numbers were insane for his size. He ran a 4.7 40 at 290lbs. Football didnt work out because his lack of experience. They said he didnt know hkw to play the game because he wrestled in school and never played football. The same was said about his MMA career, but when he went to the UFC, his size mattered until it didn't. He won the belt defended it twice, then lost it to a guy 30kg lighter.

>>508150313
False, because the football player wont punch as well as a trained fighter, nor be nearly as fast. So good luck landing the shot at all.
He'll whiff his punch and be sent straight to the shadow realm.

>>508144789 (OP)
you're conflating boxing with street fighting... They're not the same by any metric.

>>508149959
>NFL is the most competive sport in the US. top level athletes with top tier genetics.
Not true. These guys are either super fat when they retire or revert back to being slim. Those muscles are temporary

>>508151471
>near 78 inch reach
>vs 70 inch reach

>>508150978
Bivol doesn't have to weather the storm, hes literally one of the best defensive boxers ever. He's also way to quick (most boxers are leagues faster than your non-boxer), it wont be even close. Bivol also has the best foot movement in boxing right now.
Just look how this Ngannou got heem'd by a competent boxer for once.
Aaron Donald has well a puncher chance but since its a street fight, anything can happen. So Aaron would probably try to either brute force the fight and wrestle. I say its a 50/50 chance he fights with his hands up or goes to football mode. Natural instinct for people is more of a boxing fight.

>>508150076
>We are talking no rules streetfight
You can't be this fucking clueless. In that street fight are you dumb enough to get close to the guy to get stabbed?

Both have unique strengths and weaknesses

>>508150081
Thanks for telling everyone your stupid ass has never trained to fight at a competitive level. GGG has been fighting since he was a kid. You can't just pick up fighting and think you'll be good in 6 months. If you're not training before puberty you'll always be awkward and not a natural at defense. AJ and Wilder are a few examples

>>508151930
Go mess with some much bigger guy with athletic background at the gym with little experience. Yes you can start fighting late.

>>508150563
You're a fucking retard

t. 210lbs 6'2" Golden gloves champion, medically forced to retire. I'd knock your stupid ass out in the first round

>>508151930
>AJ and Wilder are a few examples
Guys who became world champion?

>>508152048
Already have retard. Unlike you I actually am a trained fighter with competitive accolades

>>508152083
What happened when they fought guys who trained since they were kids in Fury, Ruiz and Usyk?

>>508151635
One type of combative will carry over to another way more than skill at a sport will.

>>508152132
At what weight class?

>>508152177
They also beat guys who had fought since childhood.

>>508144956
No. You saw a trained fighter beat up two drunken schlubs on YouTube. Aaron Donald would just tackle him and pummel him to death.

>>508149091
yeah, I might go to jail, but that doesn't un-canoe the niggers head and put his brains back in. going to prison does not frighten me. you have no power over me.

>>508150282
better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

>>508144956
>TPW techniweaks try to explain why they'll win but you can't hear them because its eardrum training day

>>508152323
They got their shit kicked in by guys who clearly aren't athletic. That's the point stupid

>>508151530
Retarded take. Just try to stand up

>>508148506
>bouncer
So you’re fat

>>508152514
They also managed to become champion.
>durr you have to win every single fight you were ever in or you're not good and your athleticism meant nothing

look up the origins of rock paper scissors and you'll understand why actual society barely ever involved strength training for fighting wars even with plate armor

a guy with arms that big wouldn't move quick enough to block scissors and then he's blind

>>508152686
They're not all fat.
Hell, they're not even all tall guys.
I knew a TKD instructor who worked as a bouncer and he wasn't even 5'10". Looked scrawny but could crack your ribs with the kick equivalent of a jab.

>>508152727
I accept your concession. Thanks for proving you've never fought competitively

>>508152882
>t. failed at being a relevant MMA fighter and bragging about

Boxed all my life dabbled in judo and jiu jitsu and sambo. Had countless gear heads show up to gym. All got pieced up. You’re living a delusion

Look up:

Igor vovchanchyn vs anyone
(Fought a 6’8 300+ lbs giant at 5’9 205 and near killed him)

Fedor vs anyone


Bob sapps losses. Bob sapp was huge and got pwned by much smaller fighters

Tyson was 5’9

Dwight muhammad qazi was 5’6 maybe 180-190 took down roided giants

Pride had numerous roid heads get owned and tons of catchweight matches that showed strength played some role but not that big.

NFL players are on field for 30seconds then gas and need air. They don’t know how to throw a punch. They don’t know how to defend. Due to their size have never been challenged before. In a fist fight 30 seconds seems like a fucking eternity.

>>508145503
>GGG
Who?

>>508149437
if those guys weren't pussies afraid to lay out an aggressive ham-beast, one good punch would send that high calorie human flat on the ground. when whores act like this, they need corrective beatings. lack of corrective action makes them think it is okay act out in this way.

There was a liveleak clip i saw ages ago where some big muscly 6ft white guy gets into a verbal argument with a tiny 5ft spic. Muscle man chases spic out to his car, spic pulls out a gun and shoots muscles in the guts which sends him running away screaming.
don't bring your fists to a gunfight. Don't fight people in general. swallow your ego, conceal carry and only pull if you feel actually threatened and intend to use it immediately

>>508152855
>I knew a TKD instructor
lmao

>>508144789 (OP)
>what do you mean you can't grab his neck, crush his windpipe, gouge out his eyes or elbow him in the neck when he does some gay grappling shit.

>>508152973
In addition

Kid yamamoto is like 5’4 and was seen bodying bouncers at a club twice his size. Roger Huerta KOd some nfl players at a club three times his size.

Literally watch pride fc lol.

>>508152973
>In a fist fight 30 seconds seems like a fucking eternity.
Maybe when you're fighting in a padded ring. Any real life scenario is filled with hard floors, sharp corners, rocks, stick. If you go down with some guy on you he can just steer your head into any of those and its good night

>>508153148
What do you find amusing?

>>508152973
The thing about Bob Sapp was that he was TOO big. The guy could barely move and had zero combat instincts. In a real fight he'd probably just bear hug you to death.

>>508153127
>lack of corrective action makes them think it is okay act out in this way.

Yet she did, and it was OK.

>>508151460
I'd swap wrestling for judo or BJJ, if only for the fact that they're easier on your body and joints as you grow older.

>>508153451
30 seconds in a street fight is fucking forever dude. I’ve been in bar fights normies do same attack the hug or the haymaker. There’s no in between lol. A real life fight isn’t road house

>>508153451
I’ve also been slammed on back of my head on counter tops, head slammed on concrete, etc. you just sprawl or know how to fall lol.

>>508152076
holy based

>>508148705
Kek Brock isnt 6'5, fucking mark

>>508148705
Donald is exceptionally small for the position he played. He was just so good he got on a roster and that was that.

>>508150629
>t. Doesnt know james johnson

>>508153630
>30 seconds in a street fight is fucking forever dude
Exactly, no fight last that long unless you're fighting in a padded ring with no hazards. See >>508151715

>>508153528
I agree, western men have been programmed by kikes and christcucks to be cucks since birth. don't hit women, turn the other cheek, everyone is equal. it's all to weaken us. the west has fallen.

>>508153793
>I’ve also been slammed on back of my head on counter tops, head slammed on concrete
Yeah we can tell

>>508153130
t. Spic

>>508144789 (OP)
So the fucking nigger is bullet proof?
XD

>>508150076
80 year old Jack Dempsey won a 3v1 against young men on the street and broke all of their jaws. The nigger getting chinned is exactly what would happen.

>>508153959
Depends on the fight my man. One good punch and it’s lights out. If someone can move and block and defend you’re gonna be there a long while.

>>508144789 (OP)
Which one, shlomo or nog, OP?

>p00pn

>>508154149
This I don’t think people understand reality.

>but you can fall and bump your head
>you can get your eyes gouged

Literal cope lol

>>508144789 (OP)
>The whiter man will beat the less white man.
Yes.

>>508154335
Let's assume you are right and "muh technique" gives you a 2-3x advantage instead of a 1.4-1.5x advantage. Now what?

>>508154554
It’s not even technique have you seen the average person punch or where they keep their hands or feet in a fight lol.

i live in a college town with lots of bars and lots of bar fights. almost every time i saw a bigger "jacked" guy going against a regular or lanky guy, the big guy got his face beat in. big slow weight-lifting muscles are useless against fast gristle and bone. the skinny guys were always 3x as fast striking and the big guy always resorted to trying to grab them and wrestle them down after he gets his teeth knocked in. we call it "big for nothing"

>>508144789 (OP)
Right would heem him. They have weight classes for a reason.

>>508152342
Damn, that's a lot of momentum moving directly towards a world champion boxer's straight left to his chin. You're not smacking GI Joes together, niggerball lover

>>508154554
It's not a fucking JRPG where you compare numbers, Anon.
If you actually learn a martial art, you learn to move your entire body in unison to increase the power output. You learn the attacks people CAN use and how to counter them.

You laughed at TKD earlier, but ITF is designed to literally kill people.

>>508144956
Gymcels enter in suicide mode whenever they hear about this.

>>508145804
Despite being short, he could literally rip him apart

>>508154751
Korean TKD is no fucking joke. Point TKD is junk. But a spinning back kick or any kick is so unpredictable in a street fight to normies. Take one good kick to the calf you’ll change your whole outlook on “muh muscles”

Only time a white kid beats a black man is if that white kid is trained either box or hump ass ufc shit. Other wise just if it just fair straight up stand up of that they bring from the streets then black wins 9/10 times.

>>508153490
in a real fight he would never get close enough to you without losing his airway sight or consciousness if it's a trained fighter

>>508154959
Also you can’t stop a liver shot with muscle lol. If these roid heads take one to gut and it’s from someone trained you’ll be bent over gasping for air. I remember my first liver shot I dropped like a sack of potatoes lol.

>>508154959
>Point TKD
That's WTF.
ITF is the full contact one where it includes things like punches to the face and you will absolutely get wrecked if you don't keep your arms up.

>>508149803
I generally agree with that but if youre even brandishing a gun on an unarmed douchebag trying to start a fight and live in the wrong jurisdiction youre asking for more trouble. I dont bring my gun to bars or clubs, well because its already not allowed, but anyway because people love to try and start a fight with built guys for some fucking reason and I'm better off not having one on me in that situation, besides the laws against it

>>508155139
>liver shot
Your liver is like a nice big water balloon and you do NOT want it to pop.

Incidentally, the fastest kick in TKD is a whip-like kick that directly targets your liver.

>>508152855
Most are fat and taller than 6’0. It’s just how it is.

>>508150537
Right but if youre up against an unarmed guy who you couldve pinned down without a weapon you dont have to die or risk jail. (Unless theyre a nog on fent who ODs while youre on them or whatever)

>>508154751
>It's not a fucking JRPG where you compare numbers, Anon.
Then why are there weight classes?
>You laughed at TKD earlier, but ITF is designed to literally kill people.
I laughed because I had a friend who was an ITF blackbelt. He certainly wasn't clueless, but far from a fighting machine.
>>508155194
>ITF is the full contact one
ITF is semi-contact.

>>508144956
Dude on the right and those bigger than him are classified as morbidly obese and your body registers it as if it were fat. That's why body builders need cpap machines to sleep at night cause the sheer amount they weigh causes sleep apnea. They get winded going up a flight of stairs.
Body builders are mentally ill and the normalization in our society to try and achieve their bodies is retarded.

>>508155304
Most, but not all.
What ultimately matters is if you can lay a beatdown on idiots.
If that involves throwing them, punching them or putting them in a hold, as long as it works.

>>508155346
How long was he training? Because I've heard of places that hand out a new belt ever two months, lmao. Total scam.

>>508144789 (OP)
i was in the army (one of the last batches of conscripts) and all the zero bodyfat muscle guys were almost as pathetic as the women

>>508148959
>What if someone had big muscles *and* knew how to fight
very big muscles block each other
you have to do lots of light gymnastics, to keep your sinews fresh and flexible
most of the overt muscle definition is retarded. you get muscles that are useful for one thing and you are more likely to rip yourself apart when fighting

>>508155389
They register as obese because bmi is a bullshit measurement for people with muscle since muscle is heavier than fat. A bodybuilder might get winded easily but thats just as likely to be from being at an unhealthy low bodyfat percent and what it takes to maintain that rather than from being overloaded by muscle or some shit. It's the pageantry that fucks them up, not just having muscles.

>>508144789 (OP)
ACTUAL TRUTH:

Boxer faggot wins a boxing match
Mucle guy wins an actual streetfight

in a boxing match you cant push or shove

>>508144789 (OP)
>iTT bunch of fed boys, turbo compensating cops, and IC boys talking shit
Literally I’d walk the fuck away from most of these fucking scenarios.

If carrying a gun I’d side with shrek mcphee or dj Shipley and use ccw as last resort due to legal system
Also it’s bad habit to think of pulling it at every situation

Kickboxing + wrestling / judo

Old school delta had it right

>>508144789 (OP)
Thats fucking triple G on the left you faggots are crazy to think he would lose in a fight with that roided nigger

>>508155422
>What ultimately matters is if you can lay a beatdown on idiots.
I mean not necessarily. Being intimidating enough to deter the altercation in the first place works markedly better, hence the tall fatties being overrepresented as bouncers. It’s why most of them have big beards too. Big masculine looking men keep shit from going south. You don’t need to be an MLG level mma sperg to gang up on a dipshit with your 2 other bouncer coworkers and throw him out of the club.

>>508155422
>How long was he training?
Over a decade, reached 3rd degree last time we hanged out before covfefe. Had a couple of free sessions in his gym as well, so it wasn't the place to hand out belts. Didn't go back because the instructor was a dick as my friend himself admitted. Afaik he was a foreign-born champion of some ex-Soviet shithole, but wasn't allowed to participate in official fights in Greece which made him resentful.

>>508144789 (OP)
If he knocks him out with the first punch otherwise he's pretty much dead.

>>508144789 (OP)
Oh yeah the boxer would win.

Pro level boxers routinely spar with heavyweights to keep them in fighting shape and be used to taking heavy shorts

That roidfest athlete would be out cold and drooling on the floor in a minute flat. You can’t just pickup a martial art in your late 20s or 30s and ever come close to a pro level fighter who’s been doing it before his balls dropped.

I’d go even a step further that there isn’t a single player in the nfl or what’s the next closest sport that could even stun GGG or Bivol, heck a light heavyweight would tear apart every single nfl player if he would train fight them 3 a day for however long it would take.

>>508146095
Completely irrelevant with one leg kick to the knee, a hard strike to the solar plexus, or any other number of things

>>508154906
Speak up timmy, we can't hear you when you're all the way down there

>>508156731
Even blocking a kick fucking sucks without padding. They also tend to be used for counters with unpredictable trajectories.
You can never tell if they're just swapping from orthodox to southpaw as a feint or it's a spinning kick or something. It's really fucking unnerving if it's your first time experiencing it.

>>508150563
>But 4chan users who take classes twice a week at the discount dojo
This kind of person will win against bigger and stronger men who have no fighting experience. The average person can't wrestle at all.

>>508145746
How many people have you shot?

>>508144956
>>508144789 (OP)
Fighting is mostly luck and the will of the gods. All you have to do it get one lucky punch in and you knock the guy out. If you are a trained fighter it's even easier.

>>508145503
Isn't GGG a german porn site? Why are you talking about bukkake porn?

>>508156569
in a faggy boxing match where you can't shove, kick, headbutt, shove, elbow, backhand, bite, slap, rabbit punch, low blow, holding and hitting, hitting after the bell, hitting on the break, striking a downed opponent, lifting, throwing, forearm strike, hitting with the inside of the glove, face pushing, hitting while holding, tripping, choking
sure, he wins

but in an actual streetfight the bigger guy just needs to charge at him and shove him to the ground and it's over

dumb fucking meathead

>>508156569
This is boxer cope.

I love putting them in headlocks when the drop their shoulders and turn away signalling cowardice so they can hopefully steal a punch

At this point they are finished

Few great fighters started training early, as extreme physically actively when you're young will stunt growth.

Marciano started at 25
Nigel Ben 25
Tyson 16
Foreman was 18 I think

It's not at all about time of starting but time developing and there is a limit and a time span to ability to keep doing it before injury plays a part.

>>508156929
That woman is struggling to bully that guy though.

>>508157059
32, you?

>>508146095
Wow this guy really loves his niggers.

>>508145780
you're a faggot. sitting around talking about fighting when you'd be too afraid to even raise your voice to another man that wasn't your dad telling you to get a job.

let me fight you. you'd be dead in five minutes with your 400 pounds of mass advantage lol.

>>508144789 (OP)

Truth is 95% of fights are won by the heaviest person.

>>508158210
That's not how you fight...
Or at least I hope that's not how you were taught to fight, JFC.

>>508154906
He would have to catch him first.

>>508157344
I mean the pareto principle applies. After 6 months of rigorous training you will most likely become 80% as good as you'll ever get. Progress isn't linear.

>>508157059
That number is CLAS and ______.

Not even FOIA will ever get you anything, lmao.

>>508158210
pretty much, but the skinny guy in your vid doesn't know how to fight
his foodwork is attrocious

>>508149437
Gays can't fight

>>508158210
Go for the head you fucking moron.

Or I don’t know like the Israelis do and hit the knees over and over. Double jumping kick to a knee it’s game over.

>>508157344
Uhuh. In a street fight there would be no gloves or wraps so even a jab would fuck over any of you guys. GTFO before you get embarrassed any more.

>>508157183
Kickboxing + some wrestling or judo. Boxing to dominate standing game.

>>508158723
Their punches will fly even faster without gloves.

>>508158723
>In a street fight there would be no gloves or wraps
Aren't the gloves supposed to protect your own hands and not the opponent? Unless comically sized of course.

>>508158937
It slows down punches significantly.
Energy scales linearly with mass and exponentially with velocity.

>Itt: absolute jobbers
I wonder how many pros DONT do film study on their next opponent.

Dam. Y'all, can I just say, I miss Andre... what a great guy.

>>508153456
>amusing

TKD has a different meaning around these parts.

Totally…

>>508145746
kek this

>>508157183
>but in an actual streetfight the bigger guy just needs to charge at him and shove him to the ground and it's over
What a fucking moron. You aren't fighting a light pole

>>508144789 (OP)
Muscle is worthless if it isn't focused on technique.

>>508144789 (OP)
Roidniggers deserve the rope.

>>508151557
Brock is actually a very humble person and he acknowledges this very thing.

>>508153079
damn you're retarded

>>508159010
Yeah the best boxers don't have huge arms. The power comes from hips, legs and good technique