This war will finally bancrupt the american jew shithole
good riddance

>>508279080 (OP)
This chart looks like blood dripping. Was that intentional?

>>508279708
Yeah the American government colluded for three decades in order to have a chart that looked like blood dripping by 2025

>>508279708
Interest payments now exceed U.S. defense spending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbT26SZXXwE

>>508279080 (OP)
Not many people are talking about this. Not only are we paying out the ass to cover the interest payment on out debt, but we've also seen a decline in buying of US bonds and a credit downgrade as well. The US's capabilities to print the money necessary to fund this war are extremely strained at the moment, so starting it now might just be the death sentence for the dollar.

It's okay, our greatest ally Israel will help us.

>>508279080 (OP)
>it's been a deficit every single year a zoomer or alpha has been alive

>>508279080 (OP)

>>508279080 (OP)
what war?

>>508279708
yes, it's been dead ,the jews (parasites) are just finishing it off now

oh look it's the rusnigger OP who can't in2 spelling or Econ

the sole emitent of the $ (the US state) may not go bankrupt on the $

>>508279080 (OP)
we ded

>>508279080 (OP)
Wild how we had virtually unlimited potential before 9/11 and the jews and neocons completely walked America off a cliff.

>>508279080 (OP)
US is a petro state

only Europe will hang itself

this will continue to not be a problem until the US stops being the world's reserve currency, then the US is fucked and has to declare bankruptcy. this will wipe out retirement accounts and will cause a civil war most likely. around that time Israel gets its dream regional power status. your future children will be using shekels for payments (literally)

>>508283155
Could have just said 1913, but yeah I get you

>>508283318
american interest yields are already higher than Greece and Italy

>>508283850
so?
US dollar isn't a useless Euro

>>508283961
was I talking to you, Pollack?

>>508283850
you do realize the Fed can set the yields however it sees fit? you humongous ignorant

>>508284080
thats not how it works, stupid polenigger
the interest rates are set by the bond market

>>508284060
i guess FACT trigger you germ

keep on coping that your ossi shithole will become a superpower one day

>>508284327
why are you pollacks shitting up my thread?
do you think anyone cares about your worthless gypsy opinions?
what even is the currency of your shithole?

>>508284456
you made those threads for last 2 years
you are just a low iq ossi and US is just keep on running as a global empire while you cope and seethe in your ossi cuckden

>>508283850
obviously there is uncertainty over the debt situation but our equities market is the strongest in the world and tech will continue to expand. even BRICS still uses USD for oil which is kind of funny.

>>508284270
the interest rate is set by the Fed, retard
the bond yield is based on the interest rates set by the Fed
kill yourself you economic noob

>>508284665
the white mans invention of math has apparently not reached Pollackia

>>508284888
no theyre not
youre a retarded polish nigger

>>508284960
america literally pays out so much BECAUSE IT CAN you humongous retard

>>508284456
>Shit covered muzzie hands typed this
Another brown person seething about the US existing. Many such cases.

>>508285023
nice argument, subhuman rusnigger rapebaby, kill yourself, unemployed fag

>>508285055
>>508281139
tell that to Elon Musk
he knows more about money than a retarded polioh gypsy

>>508285023
>Japan is collapsing
2 more weeks

>>508285143
>tell that to Elon Musk
some more genius arguments, jesus christ
delete this thread, spare yourself the shame

>>508285143
>be german
>think he's an independent ossi thinker and not a sheep like merimutts
>listen to elon musk goy (the guy who needs low interest rate for his AI start up)
germans are more retarded than i thought they are actually human cattle

>OP Germany 9 pbtid
>This war
What war?

>>508285270
the fed funds rate is not setting the bond yields
go back to cleaning a toilet, polish monkey

>>508281139
>Interest payments now exceed U.S. defense spending

Correct.
Interest Payments on the U.S. debt now exceed all discretionary (not solely military) spending

they'll just let themselves have more deficit then
a-duh

>>508285411
you realize the average human being loks at your flag and falls over laughing right?

>>508279859
I'd believe it. We're all pawns in their game. The real elite are 160 IQ psychopaths who transfer their consciousnesses to their children at the time of their deaths by torturing them and then possessing them with their spirits. Their plans last for centuries. A little blood dripping graph here or there is just how they get their lulz.

>>508285501
Central banks: their main task is to set the prime interest rate.
Bond yields are set (in part determined by what the central bank's prime rate is) by the nation's treasury

>>508285833
This.

>>508285665
you're literally an ossi who posts about elon musk and american national debt for last 2 years

LOL LMAO

>>508285833
bond yields are a function of the bond market
unless the central bank does yield control, which is inflationary

>>508285953
>Germany flag 12 pbtid
(You) do not comprehend what you're posting about anon.
step away from the computer

>>508285501
the bond yields are literally set by the Fed too
who do you think sets them, retard?
>duh bond market
the bond market is the buyers and there are always buyers for US bonds
>the Fed sets the bond yield
>and the Fed sets the interest rate, this pertains to debt interest payments
you're a retard's retard. keep waiting & keep being unemployed, rusnigger

>>508285953
will given the fed targets an inflation rate of 2%, its always going to be inflationary. but its stable...for now

America can just ask their vassals like germany to buy more US national debt

anything thinking US debt is a problem is an 80iq somali or a tech jew who needs low interest rate

>>508286083
he's the kinda nigger who thinks the $ emitent can run out of $ lmao

>>508286091
>who do you think sets them, retard?
the free market, you fucking polish retard
do you even know what capitalism is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_market

fukcing polish nigger

>>508286091
>are always buyers for US bonds
No, not always.

Particularly not now:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/500310690

>>508286288
youre talking to a fucking pollack retad

>>508286288
damn, 2 more weeks until there are no buyers for US bonds and the US$ stops being the world's reserve currency, LMFAO

guess what - the yuan's % share in the world's reserves has only dropped in the last few years...

>>508286288
>Ray Daliio
i see /pol/ is posting a jew who needs low intrest rate as a source now

>>508286416
youre talking to a fucking mutt who reps ray dalio, LMFAO'ing at your pathetic unemployed ass's life

>>508286249
You having a stroke polenigger?>>508286509
Another brain damaged untermensch kek
The US is fucked

>>508286570
Ray Dalio isnt a Jew
but every pollack has a jewish ancestor

>>508286656
why is it always some seething vassal like countries who would die without US are the ones seething about US 24/7

>>508286570
Ray Dalio is all-in on Shina trying his hardest not to think about the 1 billion empty apartments in China (according to sources in the Chinese govt) that will never be settled and will eventually result in all the chinks' accounts getting zeroed because the real average value of chinese real estate is negative (unsellable w/ maintenance costs)

the chinese economy is a pyramid scheme based on extraordinary growth... which ended in 2020

>>508286741
Lmao they're spouting the dumbest talking points with such confidence, they really are the niggers of Europe. No wonder they suck amerikike cock with such abandon

>>508286985
>not an argument
cope and kill yourself

>>508286509
Is the yuan the world's default reserve currency denomination?

Read the archive.4plebs topic posted above

It's no solely about 'demise of the dollar' (<--something taking its place) or 'muh BRICS', it is about the global liquidity drying up and the total dependence of current system on USD which can produce a near-instantaneous credit freeze
>as would have occurred in Aug-Sept 2019 without almost $1T in bailouts (followed soon after by covid global lockdown and $12T more in liquidity to the dried-up system)
>as would have occurred in 2007-8 without those bailouts

Main problem rn, is that compared to 2019 or 2008 the total debt has more than tripled in magnitude and (as posted upthread) governments are far outspending themselves just to pay interest.
USD is the global default reserve currency, therefore confidence in that denomination and also U.S. treasuries is dependent upon the world's perceived confidence in U.S. government solvency.
That is why the debt (bond) market has a sales problem : Nobody wants to buy the debt
nothing to be enthusiastic about U.S. treasuries (or the USD), it's meh

>>508286815
>seething
>says the seething butthurt belter
Kek, you're also like retarded jews
Jewnigger
Lmao

>>508286209
>Cayman Islands $248B
lmao what the fuck

>>508287137
butthurt b-whaaat?
rusnigger on a VPN detected
kill yourself

>>508286570
>>508286741
It doesn't matter, Dalio is merely one of the more outspoken billionaires on this stuff.
Everyone in the finance biz (with a brain cell) knows that this is the problem, and that it's been coming since 2008, accelerated since 2019-2020

>>508287137
seethe harder netherlands is literally like an american colony at this point nobody even speaks dutch there

dutch are weak and pathetic

>>508287135
>global liquidity drying up
the vast majority of US debt is domestic, fucktard
you don't even know what you're talking about
we're living in the times of MMT (modern monetary theory) and you're still spouting paleo-lib neolib trash

>>508287282
jamie dimon literally thinks debt is not a big deal

high debt = even higher corporate profit and less taxes

>>508287135
Can't expect these poleniggers to understand any of that, but good post
The entire global financial edifice including quadrillion derivatives market is built on US treasuries
And no, the US cannot print its way out of this unless inflation targets are set at well over double the current one for a sustained period

>>508287422
>Poland flag 14 pbtid
>vast majority of US debt is domestic
??
Wrong, and what would that have to do with global liquidity (in any denomination)?
THE GLOBAL MONETARY SYSTEM IS 95 PERCENT TRANSACTED IN USD AS THE DEFAULT.
That is the only thing which matters
(we're not discussing sovereign debt)

>muh MMT
flat Earth money?
Back to plebbit, Brainlet.
Do Not post in this topic again

>>508287472
Central fact on money: government deficit = private sector SURPLUS. That’s why every time the US gov tried to reduce the national debt a *depression* followed

>>508287700
checked, the Polandtard just started shilling MMT

>>508287700
>And no, the US cannot print its way out of this unless inflation targets are set at well over double the current one for a sustained period
so it's literally not a big deal?
inflation of 5% and national debt can be ignored

i guess dutch are retarded

>>508279080 (OP)
chat, what is keynesian economics

>>508279080 (OP)
This war will secure us more oil than we could ever dream of. If your shithole of a country wants oil, you'll do as we say. If you dont want to end up like Iran, you will do what we say. There is no paying back the debt, that's not the goal. The objective at hand is to make an example of Iran. Don't get out of line, if you know what's best for you.

>>508287794
MMT is your and mine economic REALITY, already, NOW.
instead of trying to understand your surrounding reality, you're fighting windmills, kek
wayyy ahead of ya, kid. i work in finance, loser

>>508287700
>The entire global financial edifice including quadrillion derivatives market is built on US treasuries
This anon gets it.


Every anon itt needs to watch this short documentary:
The Money Deluge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs

>>508287885
Inflation at 5% for years on end is a very big deal for most Americans

sage (ID: DGfokkVb) Poland flag 16 pbtid = A total plebbitard brainlet

>>508288078
it was at 15% for many consecutive years in the 70s and 80s
it's ogre, US collapsed then
oh wait no, America reached newer heights and crushed the USSR

>>508288078
it's not even a big deal

you are just retarded

>>508288139
keep simping for ron paul in 2025, fighting windmills and remaining a temporarily-embarrassed-millionaire while i'm a real millionaire kek
fukken loser faggot mutt one-upping an ossi-rusnigger named denis smirnoff

>understand your surrounding reality
First, understand what Money is and how it is created


97% Owned — How is money created
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo

sage (ID: DGfokkVb) Poland flag 18 pbtid = Vacant plebbitard brainlet

>>508288519
>First, understand what Money is and how it is created
true. try reading this article as a starter:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-kelton-pony-for-all-20170929-story.html

im out

>>508288225
America wasn't anywhere near current debt levels back then, so Volcker could jack up interest rates to a point where today, the US government would be paying 90% of its budget in interest payments
You are like a monkey wielding a hand grenade, you haven't even properly understood the faulty theory you're shilling

sage (ID: DGfokkVb) Poland flag 19 pbtid = Vacant plebbitard 55 IQ brainlet
>/op-ed/

>>508288842
times change grandpa

stop being retarded

US has lower net debt than China and soon debt premium will go down massively as chinkland combusts

>>508288842
>You are like a monkey wielding a hand grenade, you haven't even properly understood the faulty theory you're shilling
kek
that's what I love abou the flat earth money MMT tards

>>508288623
Just note that these sad butthurt belters are shitting up this thread with their retardation JUST BECAUSE a kraut started it
That's how butthurt. That's how rent-free. It's deeply pathetic, and pathological

>>508289111
trips, yeah some of the Poland seetheouts are kino

>>508289111
the ossi is from butthurt belt himself

>>508279080 (OP)

It will least bankrupt them who were stupid enough to lend money for them.

>>508279080 (OP)
Bankruptcy is not possible for the kiked financial system because, as you can see, they will simply raise the debt ceiling and add more dollars to circulation to keep the insolvent scam running as long as possible. The only think that can bring it down is if men stopped going to work... but everyone is too pacified with drugs, trinkets, and ignorant about the whole situation.

>>508288735
>If the government tries to buy too much of something, it will drive up prices as the economy struggles to keep up with the demand. Inflation can spiral out of control. There are plenty of ways for the government to get a handle on inflation, though. For example, it can take money out of the economy through taxation.
Kek. That female journalist (yes, a woman and a newspaper article, that's what you came up with) literally spelled it out for you, including her retarded solution (just tax your citizens more to control inflation, bro)
Holy kek polniggers are so dumb it hurts my brain

>>508289521
>as long as possible
Except that's coming to an end, right now. See upthread

One of the main imminent trends post-covid (apart from sheer magnitude of overall debt greater than ever) is the *tandem expansion* of both fiscal(gov spending) and monetary(central bank+treasury "moneyprinting") can not continue, a rubicon has now been reached. Interest Payments on the debt annual discretionary spending: TL/DR annual gov budgets now consists of mostly Interest Payments

and now,
No one wants to buy the debt.
Purchasing of debt, a healthy and stable bond market is a crucial element of a Debt-Based Economic Model

Prescient clip from December 2019 (just prior to covid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMHQaxd5N-Q

>>508289929
no, you're dumb thinking the US will ever go bankrupt
stop fighting a straw man, when the debate is about whether the US is going bankrupt or not. you're cowardly moving the goalposts

>>508286977
Personally I’d describe it as Enron if it was run by communist boomers, who also have the ability to disappear and ban any complainers.
That last part is what trips up a lot of people.
Like Peter Zeihan for example, all of his instincts scream “this shit should fucking collapse “ and he’d be right! But he’s not taking into consideration that they disappear people in china who point it out.

That’s the Chinese question in a nutshell.
“If Enron can just kill people and ban information… would it ever collapse?”

>>508279080 (OP)
>This war will finally bancrupt the american jew shithole
>good riddance

yeah ok, im sure it will, -37 trillion dollars right now but apparantly "THIS" will "Bankrupt" the world financial system and the American economy....... Thanks a lot germ for the valuable insight.

Im sure a lot will happen

>>508289929
That's what is so hilarious about the flat earth money MMT tards. Every time they link a 'reference' it's some non-finance, non-STEM birdbrain no-name

MMT is an authoritarian statist collaboration with central banks (even they too well know its a scam, but continue pimping it just because they know Polandflag woketard-tier NPCs will slurp it up "muh guvermint going to save us all" fucking kek and the off-chance that other global govs will enact it, to their private central bank benefit)

>>508290516
MMT is literally just a description of the current economic practice worldwide

>>508290118
So now that the US economy is proven to be a scam to the rest of the world, and nobody wants to buy bonds, the US will simply start extorting other countries to remain intertwined under threat of bombing and other terroristic tactics. Oh yeah that's what the USA has been doing for decades already. Nothing short of the whole world ganging up on the USA can stop this horror show, but so many countries are zogged it's not even possible

>US going bankrupt
Math says the United States has about 4 more years and $12T before instant total bankrupt Treasury
this is at per-annum $2T deficits and the Interest Payments posted above
so yes about half a decade at current *tandem* (see ^^^above) fiscal+monetary policy implementation and magnitude, rates of spending+"moneyprinting"


From the gov spending (fiscal) side of the fence —

This is our last chance
>https://rumble.com/v6tdgb5
https://rumble.com/v6tdgb5

4 or 5 more years, $12T left
>https://rumble.com/v6tbxtn
https://rumble.com/v6tbxtn

>description of the current economic practice worldwide

Is in educational documentaries (fully referenced and good for re-watch and notetaking)
1. >>508288028 The Money Deluge
2. >>508288519 97% Owned — How is money created

>>508291385
Yes but anon, see the archive.4plebs thread posted above: nobody wants to buy the debt.
Is bombing other countries going to encourage more buyers for bonds?
Bank of England, a couple of years ago was forced to buy up bonds (take them back onto their balance sheet) in order to prevent U.K. pensions from imploding.
Global bond market is fucked. No buyers
for a system *founded upon* debt
(there is *nothing else* behind all of this debt note fiat currency)

>is not a big deal

>>508285737
Anon I had a strange feeling in my solar plexus when my dad died. I was 3 hours away. I got the phone call about 30 minutes after he actually passed away, around the time I had the sensation. He had sociopathic traits, very intelligent, was a lodge member, and had friendly relationships with politicians local and statewide. I had a suspicion that maybe my dad is hitching a ride through me. You got any info on your schizo babble?

>>508287139
>Cayman Islands $
it's a center of the global eurodollar time-dependent accounts
This worldwide hidden network is where the vast majority of the world's Financialized wealth is segregated
totally walled off from the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities in which we all subsist

watch this documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8

>>508283155
checked, what happened is that the 1990s where the completion of the first phase of Financialization of the global economy with speculative debt instruments
which began during the Thatcher-Reagan era 1980s
Phase One was completed in 1999 with repeal of Glass-Steagall
that officially threw the switch for global Wall St investment banks to become casinos

We should lower interest rates to 0% just for the fuck of it. It would be funny

>>508296975
Trump advocated for negative interest rates in his first term
(years after he'd criticized Obama's administration for keeping rates at-near zero for so long)

you know you always hear all these shits about muh country debts
but who owned these debts?
cant be not israel cause otherwise they woulnt need 2 billions war fund hand out
swiss?

they can print infinite amount of money
nothing will happen
I have heard the same story since the 80s

>>508297618
That debt is owed mostly to americans. It is americans who buy US government bonds.

>>508297831
The debt has to be bought anon.
Someone has to buy all of the debt (see posts ^^^^upthread)
Each unit of debt note fiat currency "printed" into existence, has a corresponding bond issued by the sovereign treasury. This bond *must* be sold/bought on the global bond market.

The worldwide Financialized system is founded and based on debt. It's backed by nothing else.
Nobody wants to buy the debt any more

>>508279859
Holy fucking kino

>>508279080 (OP)
good. finish it off. btw Europe will collapse first.

>>508285568
Ferguson’s Law states that any great power that spends more on debt service (interest payments on the national debt) than on defense will not stay great for very long. True of Hapsburg Spain, true of ancien régime France, true of the Ottoman Empire, true of the British Empire. - Niall Ferguson

niggers