Shit keeps exploding

Soon

*Starship explodes*
Nice H1Bs, H1Belon.
P.S. Venus mogs Mars.

>>508672319

>>508672223 (OP)
Y tho

No shielding or reliability. I would never.

>>508672351

>>508672223 (OP)
nobody except the biggest retards are getting on that constantly-exploding shit-tank and you can't colonize mars with retards

https://youtu.be/goh2x_G0ct4

>>508672223 (OP)
man I ate some pf changs for dinner and my ass is rotten.

Didn't this faggot promise a tunnel between LA and SF? Maybe do that first then aim for Mars.

>>508672334
Both are uninhabitable hells, but mars at least wont cook you alive

>>508672391
Back to paying that TV LOICENSE, sir Rottenteethworth, those gibs for Abdullah are not paying themselves

What happened with leftoids and tech????
Genuine question. They use to be the SCIENCE! types. They use to be the people you'd see fully trusting the idea of testing and finding new results.
Now they are so complacent or want to go backwards just to not hurt feelings. They lost all interest in exploring. Even their tech interests show it. Instead of flying cars, teleportation, standards of land transport, we are focused on toys, devices, gizmos, and data balk and collecting or management.

>>508672384
All civilizations become either spacefaring or extinct.

You want to wake up in the morning and think the future is going to be great - and that’s what being a spacefaring civilization is all about. It’s about believing in the future and thinking that the future will be better than the past. And I can’t think of anything more exciting than going out there and being among the stars.

2 more mellenia

>>508672503
You wake up to These players, lord Shitteethottington

OceanGate: Up Edition

>>508672411
Being risk averse is feminine

>>508672497
>men can be women
>2+2=5
>protesting racism means you can't transmit a virus
>white people cause global warming
>the original Europeans were black
>#trustthescience

>>508672631
kek

>>508672319
Soon

mars has been where earth now is, its already passed into death as far as supporting life is concerned

How long until pajeets are shitting in the Mars colony streets?

>>508672711
Latvia is a mistake. You belong to Russia. I hope your dumb language gets extinguished along with with your dumb blue cows. :3

>>508672351
The future is India's
>>508672481
Very cool pleb opinion. Venus is terraformable in about 175 years with just some aluminum foil solar shades in orbit which we could implment right now if we had any leaders.

>musk twitter spam

>>508672900
If its Melon Fucks, about 2 Werkstatt from now, depending on how fast Zion Don can get those H1B visas approved.

>>508673041
>Werkstatt
*WEEKS

>>508672497
because they are soft effeminate men, if they dont turn gay or troon out then their only mating strategy is to conform to the HR matriarchy which means becoming soft manchild beta providers to even have a chance of mating.
We are watching the collapse of a civilization.

>>508672223 (OP)
Starship will never work. There is no fucking way that thing is ever landing on an uneven surface on a planet or the moon. The thing is too big, doesn't have the structural integrity, heat shielding is shittier than the shuttle and it's just too fucking big and unwieldy.
It's best to use it just a super heavy cargo lifter to then construct a huge spaceship in space itself.
Either way, China is most likely making it to the moon and mars first.

>>508672497
Yes, they used to be the incel types interested in knowledge and teaming up with nonwhites pajeets,asians,blacks in high school against chads. But even then they werent this retarded and degenerated and had a sense of decency. Good point.
Werner von braun was a leftie too. Most of leftoids are probably now seen as conservatives or centrists.
The orange golem was a democrat too in the 00s

>>508673158
>It's best to use it just a super heavy cargo lifter to then construct a huge spaceship in space itself.
I don't know why this hasnt been done already. We could have an entire city by now.

>>508673081
Imagine giving a fuck what a woman thinks.

>>508672223 (OP)
>>508672319
>>508672497
You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golems. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway.

>>508673158
>China is most likely making
Yes in 2050 or as early as 2035-2040, that on the MOON.

>>508673454
>memeflag
>retarded opinion

Get a new script

>>508672351
>the future
>mars
>a dead planet

huh?

>>508673356
shut the fuck up memeflag nigger, no one gives a fuck what (You) think you fucking nigger. You realize no one fucking reads meme flag post right. Don't ever reply to me again you fucking NIGGER.

>2 more nukes and we will revive the planet
>Trust the plan

>>508672900
They will never make it all the way to Mars because every time it is attempted the air recycling system gets clogged by shit and the jeets suffocate during the travel

>>508673253
The main issue with that is getting down again. Some tanks bolted to some girders might work in space but it's not reaching the surface. You would then need some sort of planetary shuttle that is itself capable of orbit to get back. That sort of space plane doesn't exist.

>>508672391
Is it possible to make space suits more compact and form-fitting? I would invest in research and design into making Mars life work around a hostile atmosphere rather than terraforming, at least pragmatically at first.
Ideally, putting on a space suit would be as significant and troublesome as putting on a winter coat. Then you can get into your car and drive wherever you need to go.
With technology aimed at making no-oxygen Mars atmosphere life manageable, we could have humans comfortably living there for many years as we work on terraforming.

>>508673253
They want to keep the populace stupid and never use the old techs that could have innovated the society.

>>508673253
Yeah who the fuck knows. Building a big manuverable space station sized space ship should be the goal of Starship.
>>508672317
https://www.americaspace.com/2025/06/09/op-ed-how-nasa-could-still-land-astronauts-on-the-moon-by-2029/
Most likely moon landing will look like this. Starship ain't taking anyone to the moon.

>>508672223 (OP)
He didn't even reach the moon yet. Who is he kidding?

So fucking gay, who cares about this fake ass star wars shit. You're never leaving Earth RETARDS.

>>508672223 (OP)
I hate that that onions faggot has made it uncool to be interested in space

>>508673515
Go play in the traffic, toothpaste nigger faggot.

*tries to take pajeets to Mars and Moon*
I would gladly see Earth as humanity's final resting place. We don't need to expand. No, we do not need to touch stars.

>>508672497
Cause they can't actually create or innovate in anything and are so obsessed with vanity and convenience that exploring no longer appeals to them.

>>508673629
space was always kind of uncool, it's just a new kind of uncool

>>508672497
White people aren't allowed to work in STEM anymore, so nothing cool or groundbreaking really gets developed anymore. The only tech we produce anymore is Jewish surveillance technology and missiles for Israel.

>>508672223 (OP)
After 10 years of rapid development spaceX finally realized, rapid development of rockets is stupid.

>>508672503
No civilization becomes spacefaring, because it's physically impossible to get anywhere significant in any reasonable timeframe within the boundaries of the laws of physics

>>508673652
They care about social points more than anything.

>>508672223 (OP)
I fucking hate spaceniggers. There are no big tittie blue alien bitches up there to fuck you god damned spergs. Stop reading sci fi novels. It’s not real. It’s fiction. It’s for little kids and manchildren.
IT’S FUCKING CALLED SPACE FOR A REASON CAUSE IT’S FUCKING EMPTY
>oh yay I get to live and die isolated on a lifeless frozen red rock that is 1000x less hospitable than Antarctica!
This is what space niggers want unironically cause they think somehow when they get there there will magically be an underground race of sexy aliens that want to suck their dicks.

>>508672909
Peak feminine energy.

humankind will not be permitted to leave 'earth' to become a multi-planetary problem

>>508672223 (OP)
Why don't we settle Antarctica or the ocean floor first? both are way more hospitable than Mars

>>508673729
With the current dei outdated tech yes, it wont.

>>508673815
I don't think the ocean floor is that much more hospitable than Mars. Antarctica? You have a point there.

>>508673721
Only possible when you have once in a lifetime SSS tier rocket autists like Von Braun and Korolev. Notice as soon as both kicked it, space exploration went to shit immediately.

>>508672503
It’s actually far far more realistic to terraform the earth, where we already live and have evolved to survive for 5,000,000,000 years than to terraform another planet that is currently impossible to survive on and devoid of all means of facilitating human life.
It’s like saying you need to build a new car from scratch because your own car has a dent in the bumper and you don’t think you can fix it. Nigger if you can build an entire car then fixing the one you have is 100,000 x easier and more efficient

>>508672909
Germans are naturally risk-averse. I have heard americans and english people make fun germans for staying in the same town for thousands of years.
It's not a coincidence that germans were the last to try colonialism.
TOO BAD BITCH, EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN.

>>508673956
Abso-fucking lutely. Reclaiming the gobi desert and sahara is a complete trifle in comparison.

>>508673881
Depends how deep we are talking about. If fairly shallow it could be done. Certainly easier than Mars. If they mean miles underwater then that's as hard or harder.

>>508672223 (OP)
Elon is a bit self serving here.
There is nothing on mars we need to see.
It's a rock.

>>508673713
Too many nonwhites in top universities I agree. A retarded sandnigger or jeet is seen better than a white native there so it checks out why tech innovation stopped

>>508672223 (OP)
It'll be important to secure Mars as a White ethnostate.

>>508674048
The ocean is salty water with currents. Pressure is the biggest concern, but not the only concern.

>>508673956
It would be nice to have Mars as a backup hard-drive in case a big rock hits Earth and deletes humanity. Then the Marsians can return once the fires are out and start having hot steamy apocalypse sex and repopulate.

>>508673867
There is a limit to how fast you can go before you start getting atomized

>>508672503
Not a single civ has become spacefaring. What you seem to have inputted in your head is propaganda from tv shows like Star Trek. Going to other worlds has no inherent benefit. Even for mining and extraction purposes it isn't a good idea because it would be too costly to haul the resources back and forth.

>>508673956
Yeah I'm team terraform as well. Why I spend so much time writing comments to Shaun Overton's Dustups (terraforming project in west texas) on Youtube about doing it wrong lmao.
Honestly with genetic engineering and maybe a little less care about "invasives" (if Invasives do the fucking job natives can't, then invasives are worth it) we could probably easily terraform the entire Western US, Central Australia and Gobi.
I think Acacias and Desert Oaks are key to terraforming, since they can grow in sandy deserts and turn sand into fertilizer for other plants.

>>508674100
On the small scale there are underwater hotels and such. This could be scaled up a lot if you really threw some money at it.

>>508673815
>or the ocean floor first
Habs are subject to hundreds to thousands of atmospheres of pressure differential at the sea floor, while also having to deal with the high specific heat capacity of the near 0c water surrounding you. Space on the other hand is 1atm difference max with far less of a temperature control issue than you run into in the ocean. It may not seem like it initially as a layman but if you look into the engineering challenges, fucking around in space or even on another planet/moon's surface for extended periods of time is quite a bit easier than doing the same at extreme depths.

Antarctica presents significant issues as well. You should do some looking into how infrastructure has to be built and people have to maintain it deep in the Antarctic and at extreme depth. It's a much more significant challenge than you think.

>>508674125
It’s also easier by about 1,000 orders of magnitude to divert big asteroids than to terraform or even settle on another planet

>>508674144
>Not a single civ has become spacefaring.
Because the entire industry of spacefaring is less than 100 years old, and few countries can afford to spend money on it.

>>508672223 (OP)
They're going to put niggers on mars so why bother caring

>>508674225
Maybe, but I think JFK had a famous line about difficulty.

>>508672223 (OP)
Let's send all the jews to Mars, trajectory through the sun.

>>508673751
Based!

>>508674212
Colonizing underwater is retarded. Space is far more feasible, there is a reason why there s a tendency for space colonizing related projects than ocean engineering projects.
I think we should terraform those shitty deserts better, then we could talk about terraforming an alien planet.

>>508673956
How dumb do you have to be to believe the world is 5 billion years old?

>>508674324
>Space is far more feasible
Except it isn't, you're not even getting to the nearest star system before your entire crew is dead

>>508674225
>Settle on another planet
What if the planet is similar to earth?

>>508674147
We could start by just regrowing our old growth forests on the east coast. Anywhere that farming isn’t commercially viable due to land prices(basically the majority of this country) can just be nationalized and set on a path to becoming forest again.
We’d need to solve the nigger question first and then we could tear down all the boomer suburbs that went up as people fled the cities and paved the way for reforestation. Just make free association legal again and start jailing feral “urban youths” and every city will become as dense as Manhattan.

>>508674392
The ISS was far more feasible for sure than a station on the ocean floor bed.

>>508672223 (OP)
not gonna happen, i remember nasa or spacex were saying something around 2014-2015 that they will send a human team to mars until 2020-2021, they even prepered a crew but it eventually didnt happen anyway

>>508673721
>any development of kerosene-based rockets designed for space explorations is stupid

ftfy

>>508673730
Damn I miss old bungie

>>508674263
JFK got his brains splattered all over his wife’s pink dress

>>508674375
Spacenigger cope. Don’t try to deflect you retarded nerd

Finally!!
We can explode on mars and leave our wreckages there.

>>508674419
>what if the blue alien chicks actually do want my cock unlike all these bitches on earth?

>>508674490
Ever heard about the marsone scam from 2009? LoL.

>>508674551
He was dumb. Imagine witnessing what happened to nazis post-ww2 and thinking jews will show you any mercy if you step on their toes.

>>508674502
>spacex
>development of kerosene based rockets
You wot? They haven't touched kerosene in a development context in almost a decade at this point.

>>508672223 (OP)
That’s earth with a red filter and fisheye lens

>>508672631
Why are you being so mean? I'm not laughing, okay maybe I am a little.

Earth 20% Nitrogen Atmospheric Mix
Titan 40% Nitrogen Atmospheric Mix

Build better ships. Get to Titan.


Declassify the Retrofitted alien tech.

>>508673804
>Implying there is a council of space-jews that get to decide anything.

Fuck off from here Tom Cruise, Xenu is a fag.

>>508674626
It s amazing how every other feebleminded retard thinks life revolves around copulation. Colonizing space isnt about degeneracy and hugboxes it is to find the answers for this universe.

>>508672473
Why?

>>508672223 (OP)
>Have to live in a space bubble 24/7 with nothing to look at except brown dirt everywhere

Nah I'm good. I like earth a lot more

Nah I'm good

what type vaccine do i need to take to swallow shit like this every other week?

>>508672223 (OP)
Moon should be first colonized for interplanetary travel. Full mastering and crafting under zero gravity conditions and to how deal with the available resources.

Con man musk needs to leverage investors about Mars, cause selling the moon as a goal, it's way boring and not exciting after all the decades of failures and no clean results.

No niggers, jeets, or Jews on Mars! Can we at least agree on that?

>>508674955
Satako is such a little brat.

>>508674821
Point is, indeed you cant do anything with the current human mindset, they re too grounded for space ideals, as I said most of them care about virtue signalling rather than finding the truth and make life better. This sort of people are rare today and to colonize the space you must have a compatible mindset, but since most of them think about pee pee drinking partying having sex or researching retarded bullshit like transgender mice this is why humanity wont go anywhere in space too soon. This mentality overwhelms the one that is necessary for something of honor as exploring the space.

>>508673158
Thrusters light forest on fire.

>>508672986
You have to also remove billions and billions of tonnes of methane and other things to even begin terraforming proper.
>>508672503
>>508672319
Humans cannot survive their long term without:
>Putting a constructed electro-magnet in orbit to create a barrier against solar Radiation
Or
>Pumping countless amounts of atmospheric gases to counteract the runaway affect from the radiation stripping the atmosphere
AND
>Gene therapy against bone wastage and muscle atrophy, height weakness and issues blood and fluids not being moved around as effectively as under earths gravity

>>508675169
Just have artificial gravity

>>508672319
Literal retard-tier.
I hate you "smart" fags that think this is feasible.
Are you even aware of the supply chain dependency graph to make any of that shit in the picture? And you think you're going to bootstrap it on an inhospitable planet like Mars? No natural food, no natural air, no natural water. Totally dependent on tech that, once breaks, is irreparable. Get the fuck out of here you nigger.

You're stuck on earth. Stop seething and coping and just accept it.

>>508675169
Yeah , shielding during a generational trip is a major issue. Because these bozos cant come up with an idea of the energy shielding we see in media.

>>508675169
Megaprojects that don't see any returns for multiple generations are silly in general.

If you manage to make hydroponic farms work on a space ship, it doesn't need to be a megaproject. That's a distinct advantage, but that also applies to many projects on earth.
You don't need to regreen all of Sahara in one day, so parts are being claimed. Bit by bit, it's becoming greener and greener. Same with Iceland, people are planting greenery. Even if the land can't be used yet, you can see the effect.

>>508672223 (OP)
fake and gay

>>508674147
The ecological orthodoxy says: Protect native biodiversity! But as you point out, if a non-native species succeeds where natives fail, isn't that… kind of the point of ecological engineering?

Classic case: Mesquite in India, considered invasive but highly effective at stabilizing deserts.

Or Australian Acacia in parts of Afric despise, yet providing fuelwood and erosion control.

>>508673600
Starships goal is to land resources there to begin building and making it accessible for other ships. It has already proven the ability to land, obviously it will be adapted for martian surface.
Everything you are talking about, whether space station or whatever, starts with rockets.

>>508675169
Or just build underground.

>>508674720
Oh wait my bad.. they're focusing on methane nowadays.. they want to fart their way into outerspace with methalox propulsion..amazing apeish behaviour. Stay away from this solar system if you read this message, ayylmaos.

>>508674144
>Going to other worlds has no inherent benefit

That's what the dinosaurs said

>>508672503
>All civilizations become either spacefaring or extinct.
No civilisation has ever become spacefaring, you deluded retard.

>>508672223 (OP)
I just can't personally get excited by anything like this.

We go to Mars. Great. We're going to bring all our clown world bullshit with us. The whole operation will be run, owned and overseen by the tribe.

> Same shit different planet.

>>508672319
I work in construction, they would have to bring in low IQ retards to build that and that's where everything goes wrong because you're mixing 2 different kinds of people, high test labourers and tradies and low test faggets who will be their leaders, remember they won't be able to get home for decades. They have to build the first settlement until the next shipment comes, maybe not at all. There will be fights and rapes and the tradies will rule mars because they know 100% nobody is coming for them.

>b-buh they will have security with guns
they can't kill all the violent retards and they will have nothing left to lose.

>>508675684
>they would have to bring in low IQ retards to build

Browns aren't interested in space

>>508675641
>No civilisation has ever become spacefaring, you deluded retard.

That's what the dinosaurs said

>>508675684
Tradies will work like slaves and never say anything. Cope self proclaimed "high test alpha male"

>>508674483
The ISS isn't thousands of lightyears away and is still going to get destroyed with the rest of the solar system

>>508672223 (OP)
it will take them 4 billion years? tax money spent well.

>>508676042
That doesn't make it any less correct. Humans will not become spacefaring and will become extinct. Probably in a lot less time then the dinosaurs did. Accept it.

>>508675441
Conservation is noble to some extent, but it becomes asinine nonsense when you're protecting a desert species that's bad at living in the desert.

>>508672317
fpbp H1-Belon and his chimp niggers can’t do shit

Scammers can’t into space

>>508676258
>Accept it.

Can't mate. I'm white. It's not in my genes to behave that way

I’ll tell you how mars colonization could be done. Movies and books propaganda about Mars. Jewish writers in New York write the calendar of mars colonization beforehand. The fantasy will be dope like Star Trek. Then worlds media will play fake AI videos and the goyim will wahoo on “our civilization”. Anyone who criticizes holes in the story will be surveyed by palantir and have social credit revoked, so no more credibility for him as a homeless pariah.

Bump

>>508675115
Yes its a mess.

>>508672481
>>508675169
Venus cooking you alive?
While that is a concern I would be more worried about the almost 100 atmospheres of surface pressure.
>same as 1000m under water on earth
It presents very major material and weight issues, not least because it's also 450°C.

>>508672223 (OP)
>"Let's not miss this chance!"
>proceed to fill everything with pajeets

>>508675169
>You have to also remove billions and billions of tonnes of methane and other things to even begin terraforming proper.
Methane is valuable hydrogen, as is the sulfuric acid (which is actually trace and mostly confined to the upper atmosphere)
We can make Venus 1bar of 79% nitrogen and 21% oxygen in a very short time by simply lowering the temperature of the planet with a sunshade to -110F, causing the CO2 to freeze solid as miles thick ice caps of dry ice, and the nitrogen could be precipitated out of the atmosphere as NO2 and 2NO4.

Daily reminder that Pluto is a planet

>>508677124
Pluto is a huge rock, it might as well be a planet. It's obsession with standard definitions that unplaneted Pluto

>>508675684
Tradies won't do shit without a supply of shard.

>>508677124
Titan should be considered a planet. Pluto should be considered a moon.

It should be based more upon size and viability not "muh seen through telescope".

>>508672223 (OP)
A mars mission will never happen. Taxpayers will not pay for it, and Leon Musk can't afford it

we dont actually have the means to do so and elon is just lying about it to get more sheckles from indians who are too stupid to ask him "how can we actually do it"

>>508673578
Getting down is easy. Getting things that can get down in orbit is hard. Our great rockets have ridiculously low payload.
It is cruel irony that our gravity stops us from constructing space elevator, a thing doable on Mars. But at the same time high earth gravity protected our atmosphere while Mars became barren before life emerged.

>>508672900
As soon as they land. The fertilization and oxidation process must begin immediately.

>>508674952
>>Have to live in a space bubble 24/7 with nothing to look at except brown dirt everywhere
FRICKIN SICK DUUUUDEEE

>>508672223 (OP)
Why doesn't Musk send someone to the Moon first?
Seems like a good idea to send someone to the moon and set up a base there before you do something like travelling all the way to Mars?

Why are we fucking over earth to get to another planet and not just living in a way that lets live here?
Oh yeah it’s incongruent with Elon Musk levels of wealth.

>>508674551
the rethorical technique of this board never ceases to amaze

>>508672223 (OP)
what's the point of going to mars if there's no plan to colonize and conduct scientific research for more than 2 years at least

>>508675221
Stop saying this out loud. We need to convince jews that their destiny is colonizing mars

>>508672481
You fucking idiot, think about what it would take to terraform it
1 minute of thought on this will reveal that Mars is fucking retarded and Venus is really the necessary first hop
We'll need all the technology to get that done first
Elon is an idiot and his dream will never materialize

>>508682051
Have a look at how prior manned space missions worked.
Did Apollo 1 land on the moon? No, they burned to death instead.
It was fucking Apollo 11 that did the first landing; the prior 10 missions just fucked about trying things out, and it will be no different with Mars.
>test spacecraft unmanned in earth orbit and maybe near/on the moon
>do manned tests
>do an unmannd rehearsal flight to Mars and back
>manneed rehearsal flight
And then you can think about actually landing there.

Musk is going to make Starfleet, from my favorite tv show and movies, into reality!

>>508672317
DUDE DRUGS LMAO

>>508675059
We can but it won’t stop your daughter from saying:
>dad you totally must finance bringing Tyrone to Mars because he loves me, it’s true he have send me AI generated love letters
And if you stand firm, as adult she will work on financing bringing poor jeets to Mars

>>508682568
As long as it's TOS based.Picard is alright, but he's no Kirk. Data is no Spock either. Star Trek ended up taking itself too seriously.

>>508678375
It's based on mass I think?

>>508682719
The Somali Space Program will take care of this (read: pirates).

>>508682568
predictive programming

>coo-ACK

>>508682768
LOL, we both know it would be nuTrek based.

>>508682268
this isn't the moon dipshit, you need between between 6 to 9 months just for one way to mars then another 9 to return that's effectively a year an a half of just traveling, there's a reason all the missions to mars so far are rovers

>>508678375
>Pluto should be considered a moon.
The distinction between moon and planet is merely its orbital characteristics; a moon orbits a planet, and a planet orbits a sun.

>>508673592
maybe but think of everything it has to do, and where leaking seals or a problem with the helmet mean you die. even some fogging inside means you cant see which means you're fucked.

So is Mars flat?

>>508672223 (OP)
>Mars
>Planets
>spinning ball
>Outerspace
Extremely fake and gay

>>508672223 (OP)
FAKE

>>508676132
You don’t jump from planetary to interstellar distances. As for near future asteroid mining and orbital power generation is becoming viable question. Once we have functional orbital infrastructure, construction bigger and bigger ships becomes a matter of time and scale. Then it is possible to move from planetary residence to space habitats. That should be more or less possible with our present understanding, after we put the impossibly high costs aside.

>>508674952
brown dirt > brown people

>>508675684
there are plenty of hard working hands on engineers etc. i knew a guy who did his phd in mech eng and had worked lots of summers on building sites and a laborer. was built like a tank. its those kinds of guys and girls you want out there.

>>508672494
All that nigger DNA the mutts pumped into your women post WW2 really fucked your minds didn't it Kraut? I'm sad we killed all the real Germans.

>>508683176
And? That's all the more reason to run a robotic test mission first, and time-scales of decades aren't unusual for space missions to begin with. How long do you think a mission to another solar system would take?
Even in that case they'd first send a robotic mission - but not one that returns, rather one that prepares for the manned mission.
It seems to be Elons idea to send an entire fleeet of Starships to Mars, leaving some there, and there won't be a test at this scale, but nobody is going to get into that Starship to Mars if it hasn't already proven its capability to go there, land and come back, because that's basically suicide otherwise.
>it may still be suicide anyway
A bigger issue is the launch windows, not time travel takes under ideal circumstances. You can only cut this journeey down to 6-9 months once every couple years. Outside these windows it will take far longer, like up to 2 years to even get there.
With the moon a rescue mission would be viable, if prepared, but on Mars it's not really feasible, which is why they'll bring along a spare Starship or two.

>>508681344
He has that contract in-hand already.
It will be a mod of Starship rigged for lunar landing.
NASA gave him the contract as a plan B for the total DEI failure that Artemis will be.

>>508683246
>>508683266
>>508683286
You're from the schizo Discord or wat?

>>508683246
i think there are parts that are flat enough but also really big mountain and really deep canyon

>>508673158
Maybe. A century after the Americans did it. Americans went from powered flight to landing on the moon in 60 years, before computers were effective.

>>508683663
Schizophrenia term inventor was pals with Sigumunt Schlomo Freud and teacher to the occultist Carl Jung

>>508683246
Kek.
You are assuming Mars is real.

>>508673592
>Is it possible to make space suits more compact and form-fitting?
Possibly but you'll need to crack air scrubber miniaturization as well as soft robotics to ensure consistent sealing and pressure regulation.
Basically there's fibers that contract or expand when a charge is applied.
You'll want to layer these with various heat/radiation/moisture retaining ones as well as a mesh for regulating temperature.

>>508672223 (OP)
>muh pajeet-chink-gook built techonology
Yeah we're totally gonna go to mars
And even if we could go, what difference would that even make? More factories and slavery on Mars to inflate muh GDP? To expand Musk's already bloated belly even more?

atheist salvation = going to mars

Space is beautiful and cool but I never ever want to go there

>>508683286
AND GAY

>>508683663
Jack Parsons also, founder of NASA jet propulsion lab was a Crowley thelemite occultist

>>508672319
>Dreaming of living in a pod in a BARREN WASTELAND instead of just redirecting that time and energy into making sure this planet doesnt go to shit
I hate you Mars niggers so much

>>508672223 (OP)
starship got off to a really good start but it seems there have been a ton of setbacks lately. by that i mean extremely large explosions. people dont trust spacex as much

>>508672223 (OP)
I already saw this episode of invincible

>>508672497
Look at the Soulless niggers leading the charge of new tech and AI today and you'll understand the aversion

>>508672223 (OP)
Space is fake

Building a large base of operations on the moon should be entirely doable right now and hasn't been done despite how much of an achievement it would be for humanity and particularly the country that did it. Modern politics is entirely toothless dick waving and posturing and none of the "space capable" nations have even ATTEMPTED the biggest dickus move possible of putting a base on the moon. It's all FAKE.

>>508683700
That's pretty neat

>>508684048
and you think that means what exactly? that its all fake because he believed in some weird stuff and was also a marxist? he was working on rockets. those aren't fake. thats all he did.

>>508674125
A big rock hitting earth would most likely spell the end of any Mars colony project as well. The energy, time, money, and people required to make Mars a sustainable habitat for humans is borderline infinite atm

>>508672223 (OP)
HECKIN SPACE!!!

>>508672223 (OP)
Fuck this fake bullshit I need a neuralink

>>508684082
>this planet doesn’t go to shit

Already has bro. Musk and his rush for Mars, orbital stations, and lunar landers is a last throw of the dice to get a human presence off-world while we still have the skill and industry to do so.

A world that looks like Brazil or Pakistan might be nice for child-fuckers and other such degenerates but the experiment in civilization will be over.

>>508684008
Aren't you in space already? You're just too lazy to leave the planet, which however is understandable given the difficulties presented by that.
>okay let's put 1000 tons of rocket fuel under our ass to fly around the planet instead of sitting on it
There's no tangible difference between spaces, just higher or lower pressures, temperatures, radiation and a possible absence of solid stuff to sit on; but the space is the same.
>I do not like vacuum

>>508672223 (OP)
Starship is a pile of shit, it will crash and burn. Humanity should never go to Mars.

I don't understand why they have to use 4 billion years instead of something with context like 5000 or even a Christian 2000 or even a real scientific 100-200 years of electricity or even an actually accurate ~70 years, all of which have nothing to do with the actual amount of time taken to advance to this point

I don't want stupid mars missions

I want a livable wage, a home, safe country and submissive women

Billions or trillions wasted just so a stupid metal tube can reach a dead planet. I am mad

>>508675317
Yes, but doing it bitt by bit is part of a mega projects especially somewhere as desolate as Mars.

Humans will not be able to be born and reproduce there without gene therapies and effectively becoming a new species.

>>508675495
Who the fuck wants to live underground?
You still have the issues of poor gravity causing bone wastage, muscle atrophy and heart conditions.

>>508684683
you know those billions are just spent on having things designed, built, tested, moved around, and operated though right? thats good for the economy. the housing issue is simply down to mass immigration.

>>508683700
looking at this it's pretty obvious there's a point where things have flowed like water on the planet, whether it was a water is to be debated or not, I think it's interesting that the topography doesn't resemble the earth very well at all and the scar in the center looks like the electric universe static discharge thing people have theories about

>>508672385
his money is not in raw cash or even precious assets, it fluctuates by hundreds of billions per month because his corporation is his assets. he of course has a lot of cash but it's not the majority of his wealth. societal collapse will render most of that null.

>>508684799
>You still have the issues of poor gravity causing bone wastage, muscle atrophy and heart conditions.
mars gravity might be just fine. certainly much b better than living on the ISS. we dont really know yet.

>>508683604
>There have been six successful robotic Mars rovers sent to the surface of Mars: five from NASA and one from China.
and? you point?

>>508675169
>Humans cannot survive their long term without:
>Gene therapy
This is true period, even on earth. Its not because of the global warming meme or anything like that, its a combination of things. The genetic deterioration we've experienced after thousands of of years of domestication, the subversion of DNA's role with language as our primary method for storing information from generation to generation. As well as of course certain self destructive ideological cancers eating us alive from within and without. We're not making it through this without sliding back to the starting line unless we start making better humans capable of passing their enhancements onto their children, which they must be compelled to have a lot of and aggressively protect.

>>508684799
Could the effects of low gravity be somewhat counteracted with pressure and weighted suits? Either way it sounds like an absolutely miserable existence

>>508684253
Rockets exist but they dont go to space. Some probably fell somewhere near the Bermuda Triangle

>>508675684
Have you not heard of engineers? People with high level foundation degrees and long apprenticeships in electrical and mechanical professions, some have degrees and masters+ etc
You don't want low IQ brick layers, you want engineers that will be at least 110 IQ.

>>508684858
>societal collapse will render most of that null.
unlikely. when you're rich you pay people to watch out for shit like that and if they see it to shift as much of your wealth into more table assets.

>>508684894
oh right ok flattard. come back when you've some evidence for that.

>>508677068
So an ice ball of toxic greenhouse gases? We'd have to ship it off or live on a frozen wasteland, for what?
At most it could be a very good farm for gases and materials, but otherwise fucking pointless.

>>508684842
I guess mars is to small to have plate techtonics so its crust isn't continuously recycling like earth's is. So any change is pretty permanent, and there is no continental drift or anything like that. The article I read said it used to have flowing water and flowing lava at the same time. Apparently the 4 volcanos caused the planet to be so lopsided the entire crust shifted and helped change the climate.

Olympus Mons sits on the same volcanic “bulge” as the three volcanoes of Tharsis Montes — Ascraeus Mons, Pavonis Mons, and Arsia Mons.

And when four mega volcanoes formed so close together it proved to be more weight than Mars’ surface could bear. The volcanoes made the planet tip over a bit. Some 3 billion years ago, Mars’ outer layers slipped under their weight. The crust and mantle traveled about 20°, moving from the polar regions toward the equator. It was enough to reroute rivers and change the planet’s climate.

>>508672319
OMFG WE ARE GOING TO GET TO LIVE SOMEWHERE WITH 1/3rd OUR GRAVITY AND SLOWLY HAVE ALL OUR BONES AND MUSCLES ATROPHY ITS GOING TO BE SICK. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SHORT LIFESPANS ON MARS LETS GOOOOOO

>>508674952
>single dome
>not an air mattress

>>508672497
>leftoids and tech???

Between Covid TRUST THE SCIENCE and every tech-bro bending the knee to Trump in 2024 their gods and idols have forsaken them.

And maybe, deep down in their souls, they realize a world run by karens and shitskins feeding them bugs while they masturbate in their pods might not be the optimal way to live.

That sullen moment when the rebellious teenager realizes is father was right about everything.

>>508672334
Dat Venus bitch is too hot. Being the goddess of love and all that jazz.

>>508672503
Pie in the sky idealists should be hanged unironically. You're so far up your own ass with sci fi delusions

>>508672223 (OP)
There was nothing ''4 billion years ago'' and humans didn't recorded anything during even 0.0001% of that period. It's totally made-up concept

>>508673867
Whats your magic space tech faggot? Technological progress is asymptotic btw

>>508684941
pay them with what? and how far does loyalty go for raw money in a post-civilisational scenario? because that's where we are headed.

that's only as long as social order, law enforcement, governemental legalism, central banks/currency, loans and technology itself still lasts. it won't. sure he may have a handful of billion in material assets and a lot of tech, but if the social contract evaporates, all bets are off the table. the very notion of 'spending money every day until you die' assumes it's just cash lying around, which it is not.

the security guards of these tech billionaires will be the first to eat them and pledge loyalty to a local warlord that earns loyalty in a way that doesn't rely on raw sociopathic capitalism. like zuckerburg in his bunker. it will devolve into total lawless chaos, mightiest survives etc, but on a long enough timescale, ultimately it will coalesce into a post-collapse warrior religious cult based on some new ethics antithetical to judaeo-christian society when nagging doens't work anymore, and that's when we will finally be free from the kike and the feminist.

as soon as all of that collapses, a lot of billionaires are just going to off themselves, those that don't will fail to command respect and be eaten by their 'muscle'.

>>508675169
>methane
it's the large amount of CO2 that is the big problem
if you froze it all out, it would be miles deep
>>508677068
>simply lowering the temperature of the planet with a sunshade
compared to other forms of planetary engineering, a sunshade really is the simplest option

>>508672334
try being on venus, survival time 15, the pressure will kill you, and the atmosphere is poisonous

>>508672503
Obligatory.

>>508685246
Gulag all astrophysicists for corruption and return to the electric universe model so we can get back to real rocketry. Its that simple. Well not really. Dismantling temples of lies is pretty hard it turns out. Guess we'll just die.

>>508672223 (OP)
>call your congressman now and tell him to increase the subsidies
>buy now an exclusive plot of land on mars
>and don't forget to buy and hold my shares

>>508685288
>pay them with what?
with your money to their job. if the money becomes useless then you pay them with whatever you've had your wealth converted into - gold, BTC, food, a place to live etc etc. this stuff doesn't just happen over night without anyone seeing it coming. the rich are the ones most likely to see it coming. its the normal person who tends to lose out simply because they (i should say we, because im one) dont have financial mangers watching out for us.

>>508672494
You do know what Rundfunkbeitrag is, right?
Of course you don't because you're not German.

>>508672223 (OP)
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact, it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them if you did

>>508672497
Well a few reasons. The few genuine people are either demoralised or talking about ai now. Rest trooned out and killed themselves.

>>508672223 (OP)
>2 more years

>>508675286
>shielding during a generational trip is a major issue.

Are you implying that humans are going to build generational ships to get to far away planets?

Meaning that entire human generations are going to be born and die inside of a tin can floating through space where they will never get to see earth, or even the planet they are heading to? Is this what you believe will eventually happen?

Because I can tell you right now that if a generational ship ever got to another planet. Every single person on the ship will be dead. And I don't mean from radiation.

>>508672473
Dieser Jude hat recht.

>>508672473
>the jew rats crave the tunnels
Many such cases.

>>508684985
https://www.livescience.com/space-shuttle-challenger-debris-florida-coast

>>508685413
Don’t forget the sulfuric acid rain and lakes of liquid lead. Going to be rough planting corn and wheat in that.

Plan on a few centuries dropping water-ice asteroids on Venus after we get set up in the belt and trans-Saturnian space.

>>508673729
>it's over
>billions must stay

>>508685874
so some pieces of the exploding shuttle ended up off the coast of florida? thats whats supposed to happen if something goes wrong. doesn't mean every shuttle ended up in the ocean, obviously.

>>508685183
It really is the worse of the worse of worlds we know of (so far). Very bad luck of the draw for that planet

Marstards are truly a retarded group of people. No wonder you latched onto Saarshit so hard, but guess what retards, it is going to keep exploding since Elon just brought in jeets and other turd worlders to build his rockets lmao

>>508685874
Please tell me you are trolling.

>>508685683

it's hard to see right now after a century and half of jewish capitalism dumbing us down to equals with women, but there are things in this world other than money that motivate people other than money. especially if your muscle can just use his muscle to take it from you.

elon says it himself: money is a unit of information that demonstrates value. he provides value in the current order. outside of the current paradigm, value will reorganise and society will re organise based on newly evident principles, once the fog keeping us in our present subjugated condition dissipates.

>>508685835
>never see earth

The vast majority of human beings don’t see earth now. They see their homes, local areas, the commute to work, and whatever restaurant they eat dinner at. Everything else comes from screens.

With good projection or matte painters you could take entire cities of people, stick them in a O’Neill cylinder with local internet and cell phones, and they wouldn’t even realize it.

>>508672223 (OP)
space nazis from mars

>>508673956
>Hey goys, forget about space! It's too impractical!
jew lizard hands typed this post

>>508686341
Surely the smell (or lack thereof) would give it away

>>508686412
Wtf... Chat, is this real?

>>508672223 (OP)
Mars is a hellscape. The dust there is like razors and very toxic. In a distant future with tons of revolutionary tech then maybe. Might need some serious terraforming too. He's 100% just stroking sci-fi dicks to sell his X-everything is the future to finance bro's (and it's been working pretty good).

Also the moon is a much more closer and real target but he needs that iconic Earth-2 just a figurative two weeks away in the distance and then we'll all be living like in the Expanse driving space Tesla's that don't stop for kid asteroids.

>>508686341
Completely delusional

>>508686460
Kek.
The air would be clean and all the garbage would have to go in recycling. The waste-water would have to be distilled and charcoal filtered. They would notice they could drink right from the tap and not get sick.

>>508684683
Brownoids like you deserve none of that.
>but my skin color is…
Do not matter. Your way of thinking is brown. You have no curiosity, desire to explore and sense of wonder left. You are at odds with what means to be white. You are a consuming obsessed biorobot bugman.

>>508672223 (OP)
we're just dumb lol

>>508672473
Didn't your people promise God that you would wander the earth homeless, in perpetuity, as punishment for your sins? Maybe do that first before you even speak in public.

Not going anywhere unless he builds molten salt reactors 300% reduction in the cost of energy

no white people are derived from the south asian subcontinent. white people are of the western world, of european tradition and ancestry (aka christendom). white people explored, colonized and uplifted the world's straggling diversity into a modern age. meanwhile pajeets waited centuries for the next superior outsiders to give them purpose and identity.

"aryans" were an ancient example of white people, and they no longer exist in that form. there is no "indo-european" anything worth mentioning. the modern pajeet is a degraded copy of a copy of an ancient aryan's slave, long abandoned to his own primitive devices. a more recent example of abandoned pajeet slaves, this time far from home, are the gypsies in europe.

it would seem that the distasteful business of slavery may have evolved to meet the needs of the slaves themselves. what if specific cultures of humanity are natural and organic slaves, and to deprive them of their god-given role in life can only result in corruptions? what if freedom is only a mind-bending poison to these poor souls, and separates them from instinctive happiness? then what has been done to so many? what cruelty has this been, raising them up to stand as peers and rivals to anyone?

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

>>508685874

>>508686641
Leaf, you are in Canada. The ability of humans to adapt to austere conditions, without realizing they have done so, is astounding.

A O’Neill habitat would basically be living on a temperate island. Some people would call that nice.

>>508672223 (OP)
Let me guess... In short 10 years

>>508686892
>>508686948

dumbfuck copypasta

I had a friend in primary school from Pakistan named Banaras with platinum blond hair and green eyes whose family had been there for generations. Another one named Zubair with green eyes and pale skin indistinguishable from an anglo other than his accent and dress.

That being said 70% of muslims in the UK are mirpuri subhumans.

there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets

>WHAT IS A PAJEET?
the best way to define pajeet is
>descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry.

political distinctions on maps or signified by flags are false and irrelevant. everything south of the himalayas that isn't gooky-chinky is pajeet. pakistan, india, bangladesh, sri lanka are all pajeet territory. enough of nepal is jeeted that they may as well qualify too.

all of these pajeets could stay where they belong and call themselves what they like, and nobody would disagree because nobody cares. however, because they profusely shit up the internet, and they mass migrate to shit up everyone else's homelands, they're all pajeets now. all counted together as the same thing, on the same visiting team as far as the human world is concerned.

hindu, muslim, sikh, atheist, etc; male, female, gendersexual, old, young, etc; deformed, odorless, fair & lovely, dark & deep, everything in between, etc... forget all of it. none of that proud heritage matters once they exit designated land to race with the globalist rats. now their entire overcrowded neighborhood at the bottom of asia is known as one source of one type of trespasser: the pajeet.

>ONLY A PAJEET DISPUTES THIS DEFINITION

>>508672391
lmao why he standing like that did mr astronaut have a poopoo? rofl kys

H-1Bs will assure
that the new world gets old
so he's flying a starship to heaven
when he gets there he knows
when the airlock doors close
his pajeets will maintain proper standards
and he's flying a starship to heaven

>>508672319
Get real faggot -you haven't a chinaman's chance of living to see that.

>>508685874
Shakespeare Tempest work is hypothesised by o happen at Bermuda Triangle island too. Maybe not related but funny

>>508687748
life extension tech is already here pussy. or did you not notice the ufo tech on your wrist? they're just waiting for the simps and feminists like you to die off first.

pajeets should be posting only on bharatchan and living only on the subcontinent

>>508672319
Needs more jeets

>>508672791
ww3 will be so fvcking kino, I can't wait desu desu

>>508672503
insert any söyface here

subhuman brit faggot kek

>>508687791
its a stormy place

>>508672503
Earth is flat and space is fake. Nigger

>>508672223 (OP)
If we fail to overcome the shitskin menace, we'll never get off this rock. Swarms of brown people ARE the great filter and i'm sure there must be many failed civilizations out there in space that failed to deal with their own analogues of the same problem & were eaten to the bone.

>>508675169
Is living on Mars the cure for manlets? Once you go there there will be much less pressure on your spine and joints and even after puberty you'll instantly gain a few cm

>>508688598
Why do you think Elon wants to go so badly?

Earth is absolutely perfect place for mankind, almost like it was created specifically for mankind.

Pretending we could send humans to Mars is hilarious, they've never even been to the moon. Even if the moon landings weren't fake, they haven't been back in 50 years? fuck off.

>>508672319
cringe larping bullshit

>>508683547
>the bongoid seethed so hard its brain immediately went to nigger dicks

>>508672223 (OP)
pointless dead planet

>>508673158
>making it to the moon first
Bad news for China the US did it in 1969

Not cool.
This can be applied here https://nitter.poast.org/OttokarHochman/status/1774713446170349717#m
>They don't think we need to work forever so that we can get to space, they think we need to get to space because that's the only cause grandiose enough to force us to work forever

>>508673956
We're not terraforming Mars because we can't terraform earth. Right now there's no backup planet, if shit happens here, we all die.

>>508688488
just stop feeding them and maybe teach them how to use contraceptives, it isn't rocket science

New

>>508689286
>>508689286
>>508689286

>>508689099
>Bad news for China the US did it in 1969
nobody tell him

I hear a rattle coming from my engine so instead of fixing it, I'm going to cut down a tree and build a canoe out of it and sail around the world and find an island where I will harvest coconuts. Its the only way to fix my car.

This is a picture of an american in Mars. Taken somewhere 10 years ago by Nasa Curiosity rover.

>>508672223 (OP)

>>508690098
Mars has a thick atmosphere and there is no need for a big suit.

>>508672319
>>508672223 (OP)
You know they're just gonna put niggers on Mars?
Whats the point

>>508672223 (OP)
This thread is indeed based and SOL pilled. Every inch of everything everywhere us ours if we're the only intelligent and living species around. Until we find data to the contrary...we must spread life to the dead and barren cosmos.

Praise SOL

>>508672503
Space is fake and the New-Age NPC religion

>>508687458
Didnt that guy get REALLY high on crack and murder a prostitute? If so, fucking based

>>508672223 (OP)
Wow.