Why live in overcrowded hellscape cities? You have so much land, I'm not talking about the tundra way up north, you have huge forests which you could go off grid in.

I live next to Epping Forest and spend a lot of time there camping and hiking, I'd really enjoy going off-grid in the North American wilderness.

What's stopping you?

>>508725434 (OP)
But I do

Bike hobo here, for 10 years. I'm a pro.

Reject the rat race. Have some fucking balls.

It's easy once you figure out how to do it.

>>508725434 (OP)
>Just survive out in the wilderness with no help
>For life
Sure thing, pal. You first!

>unironic retvrn to monkee posting
I salute you fren.

>>508725495
>Bike hobo
Motorized or analog?

>>508725544
I use my feet power. No electric, no gas. I live by pure human will power. If I want to do something, it requires my physical will.

That is a really fucking solid way to live, FYI.

>>508725536
Return to monkey is the only way, high IQ know this

>>508725495
Do you just use your phone or bring a laptop with you?

>>508725434 (OP)
Getting my degree and life skills. That’ll probably be my next plan in all honesty, there’s been a trend going around where you buy a patch of land with 2 or 3 people and build houses to live in what are essentially small colonies and I’m thinking of doing that with a friend since society is only getting worse and I don’t see us recovering

>>508725434 (OP)
We do. Something like 20% of the US population lives in Rural areas.

>>508725652
Phone, laptop is too heavy and computers are widely available at public libraries. I would bring a computer, as I have a degree in computer science and sometimes do contract software dev work(rarely but sometimes I do), but I travel a pretty large amount of ground every day and it's just not worth it. It can be done, though.

I prefer simple work.

>>508725637
Trve. But I haven't seen a lot of people posting it unironically.

>>508725792
no the dumbass is asking you why we aren't living off-grid

>>508725870
We can change this

Been on this godforsaken website for 20 years, been a bike hobo for a decade.

I got the energy to shill the lifestyle.

>>508725434 (OP)
>What's stopping you?
nothing if you really are serious about it. legally your not allowed to stay on "crown" land for more than a certain amount of time in cucknada. personally i say it doesnt belong to the crown it belongs to the people. logistically in the winter you wont be going anywhere so you need to always have good supply. also setting up in these off grid forest valleys is hard. you cant build really anything without some serious deforestation and digging up of all the stumps and roots. the forests are seriously thick and wild in BC, nothing like the tame stuff you find in Ontario. there are freehold pieces of property in BC you can find with dirt/gravel road connection to nearby highways, but most of these dont have utilities setup, so developing a cabin or small cottage there would be tough, even harder to bring in all the materials you need since in winter the gravel/dirt road will be hard to traverse. theres a lot more to get into, and believe me if i could i would. you need to be someone with already a lot of savings and know how if you want to do this.

>>508726044
Just disregard laws

Just dont obey them

>go to jail
>free food and shelter

If you live like a man it literally isn't a punishment, but a vacation

>>508725940
Cool, fren, congrats. The only problem I see with bikehoboing is how to raise a family like that. I'm still falling for that one psyop.

>>508726330
I'm not interested, personally.

>>508726330
You've got plenty of forest in Brazil - another good place to get out of the rat race.

>>508726388
Figured as much. It's the one thing keeping me here.

>>508726473
If you go full monkee/indian/etc, sure. If you try homesteading, then you'll have grileiros, indians, leftist governments and rightwing farmers, cartels and occasional literal gold digger trying to kill you and blame on the jungle.

>>508726811
Yeah. I grew up suffering harshly from the 2008 financial collapse. Ruined my entire family.

I refuse to have kids without having a million dollars in the bank, and as a bike hobo that will never happen.

>>508725434 (OP)
i do live out in the forest

>>508725434 (OP)
because it's boring. We're social creatures we're not meant to live in isolation like that. Camping is a popular thing to do but you can't live like that all year unless you're a mentally ill recluse

>>508726947
>grew up
>2008
Fuck, I'm old. Hope you do alright, kid. Have fun with your bike. Don't fall for the same traps we did.

>>508726955
>all the trees are 20 years old

>>508727053
Im 30.

>>508726955
Northern Georgia? hot or cold

>>508727062
yeah it was logged before i bought it, thats part of the reason i got it so cheap ($1k/acre)

>>508727021
i guess im a mentally ill recluse. i feel the happiest when im far from other people.

>>508727170
ozarks

>>508725434 (OP)
Going off grid takes a lot of skills, resources and time if you don't want to end up dead, especially in canada where their winters are no joke no matter how far south you are.

It's worth working towards, but it will take work and lots of it and most blokes who are broke and stuck in a city realistically don't have access to the resources they need nor experience to even get started.

You're talking at an absolute minimum 50k for land, probably another 50k for a dwelling and everything else you'll need, a decent vehicle, maybe a boat, snow mobile or atv depending on where you are or dogs and a sled, you can't realistically farm enough to feed yourself on anything less than an acre, hunting and fishing will only get you so far, so you're still going to need access to food and an income stream to pay for it and other things.

Best bet is off grid on the fringes of a rural area within an hour of some sort of town and have some sort of employment in the town or do remote work and build up your land and skills year by year and slowly ween yourself off of town.

>>508727093
Now I feel even older.
t. 36 and completely blackpilled and integrated into society unable to consider bikehoboing or hoboing out of the rat race in any meaningful sense.

>>508727269
Many such cases

>>508727359
Please grow a pair

I promise the freedom is worth any cost

To live genuinely is absolutely priceless

>>508725434 (OP)
I’m brown. I used to do tree work out in the boonies often however. Got completely fucked up by mosquitos, and chiggers and leeches. I’ve gotten enough experience to know that living in a woods isn’t for me

>>508725434 (OP)
two seasons: darkness, and mosquito.
up to plus 35 during mosquito season and down to minus 35 during the 9 fuckin months of winter.

Also I had a brief an-prim phase as a young adult but as it turns out, I actually like being a slave to unnatural modern conveniences like shitting indoors, running water, and eating fresh fruit during the winter.

>>508725495
>Bike hobo
How many wayfairers have you raided

>>508727495
Consider british columbia

Haida Gwaii probably your best bet

I often consider Ketchikan Alaska

>>508727413
No can do, sir. Grinding to be able to afford a wife and kids. Not any bitch, there's one girl at the local tradcath Church. I don't think she should leave the tradition for adventures with some bike hobo.

>>508727576
I am not a criminal nor am I a beggar.

I do odd jobs and travel seasonally. I have many viable routes throughout the United States and know many cities where this is very possible to do.

I studied maps and climates for years, and am also a highly experienced outdoorsman/tradedsman. And I have a degree in computer science.

>>508727748
I wont knock your life, best of luck anon. Find your peace.

>>508727356
this. if you go even a 20 minute drive away from any interior town in BC your instantly in uncharted practically unending wilderness. on the edges of these towns you can sometimes get land for sale, but rarely is it anything other than a lot. no water or electrical already there.
>9 fuckin months of winter.
dont mean to brag but in half of BC its max 5 months. other half maybe 8.
>>508727616
>Haida Gwaii
Queen Charlotte Islands. dont use the chug name. and those islands are one big chug reserve. i think only a small ferry goes there regularly. there is way more quantity and quality in the mainland of BC, no need to go to those islands.

>>508727363
im gonna log it when the trees get big enough, they eventually just die and fall over and make a mess. you can get $1k for a good giant oak tree

>>508727296
yeah that's not normal. We're most effective when we live in a community and cooperate with each other

>>508727797
Thanks bro. If it comes to worst with her, I don't want to try again with another. Maybe I'll grow the pair I need and do it, or something else. Lord knows I'm tired of the grind.

>>508727755
You are in the rat race your just broke as shit and will never have a roof over your family

>>508726955
Looks comfy af
>>508727021
You could start a community, loads of survivalists used to live out in the wilds of Idaho.
>>508727356
Good points well made. But what about setting up shop deep in the forest? No need to buy land, could survive by hunting, trapping and fishing.

>>508725606
how do you fix a puncture with will power?

>>508725434 (OP)
In the last thread the leafs complained that some irrelevant durka durka king forbids them to live on "King's lands".

>>508727812
I knew that would trigger you that's why I called it Haida Gwaii haha

Bro you can 100% live innawoods in coastal pacific canada, it's an almost identical climate from San Francisco to Ketchikan Alaska.

Cold and rainy. Ideal for any real white person.

>>508725434 (OP)
>Why live in overcrowded hellscape cities?

I do live in a rural forested area right up the ass crack of the highest mountains of Montana, a few miles from where Hemmingway spent his Summers. It's fucking awesome. The cityfags give my town money for the privilege of seeing it, so we have nice restaurants and money. There's no poor minorities living here, so we have a high trust society where my bike lock has rusted shut from disuse, I don't even have a key for my front door, and my children walk to primary school alone. Enjoy your, "culture", cityfags.

>>508727820
yeah i wasnt normal from the day i was born. in sunday school the adults thought i was retarded because i didnt say anything. i talked alot in school as a kid but growing up i quickly realized i didnt know how to do small talk, nor did i enjoy it so i just dont say anything now unless someone asks me something. go to work go home.

>>508727922
I do whatever I want every single day and have no debt
>>508727949
Spirit quests and hardship
>>508727915
Try Santa Catarina, the Amazon is full of psycho criminals I've looked at the most remote parts of the Amazon and the rivers are red from illegal mining

>>508727616
Bro you could give me some undiscovered hawaiian island that's 25 degrees all year round with nothing but sunshine and only enough rain to keep things growing - I'd get sick of it after a week and be swimming my way back to take a shit at a shopping mall.

living off grid is a meme, no matter where it is, and modern civilization is totally worth it.

>>508725434 (OP)
not giving up my city to niggers and spics to live like a caveman. the solution to white genocide isn't to live like fucking tarzan

>>508728142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjaksWVdld8

Listen to all the lyrics homie

>>508728259
Disgusting, from my perspective. That's all you. I wont hold you back. I prefer my wilderness to myself.

>>508728238
SC is comfy as fuck.

>>508728015
Yeah but the interior is better, or maybe i just like the interior more. i hate the coast personally, but i do like rain. however its almost too green and too rugged, fjords everywhere. the interior is relaxed, still mountains but not as extreme, and more clearings, not unending extreme rainforest where you can barely walk due to how insane the underbrush is. if you go on google maps and look at the terrain around Merrit or Lilloet thats personally my ideal.

>>508728391
to reiterate, i have no issue with people who want to settle in the wilderness and create white civilization there. but it shouldn't be seen as the solution for our societies' demographic situation

>>508728391
Goodluck, I do believe the whites should overtake California. I think it's extremely cucked the whites took all the shitty areas and gave the browns the good places.

>>508728015
haida gwaii or queen charlotte island is a very interesting place.

honestly i prefer haida gwaii since it just sounds nicer and rolls off the tongue better. but im a proud european so i'd refer to it with the european name in official matters.

>>508727973
Ivan, some of these clowns think that globohomo would still find them in the middle of the boreal forest.
>>508728391
It's not living like a caveman. It's true freedom.

>>508728529
I love Colorado, interior rocky mountains when you want them, southwest desert canyons when you want them. Good climate controlled almost entirely by elevation.

The coast still wins.

>>508727948
>But what about setting up shop deep in the forest? No need to buy land, could survive by hunting, trapping and fishing.
this is impossible in the US, the forest service flys around in helicopters counting/feeding the wildlife and looking for people who are doing this. people do actually try and they get fucked pretty good, especially if they cut down a bunch of trees and started making structures. prison and big fines, i imagine they now use satellites and ai to look also

>>508725434 (OP)
funny thing about living in the forest or mountains, wilderness, etc. is that the more people who do it, the less wilderness there is

>>508728647
It doesn't really matter to me, I don't care about the name. It's a very unique place and is top tier.

>>508728750
Good thing everyone is a pathetic netflix wagie coomer

The wilderness hobby for normies peaked in the 80s

>>508725501
Its not so bad if you are young and in good health.
Important to know some basic skills, but they dont take long to to acquire. Its surprising how much you can do with just a little gear, and how comfortable you can make yourself with a little practice.
Did it for three years myself.
Would do it again if the need arose, but I am older now and like my home comforts too much.

Now here is the thing. After investing a relatively small amount you can save a fuck ton of money by camping it. Think of all the money spent on rent or mortgage, and utilities.
There is a soft approach too, you dont have to go deep innawoods, you live on the fringes of a town where you can easily resupply when needed, and seek medical attention if shit goes south. The important thing with the soft approach is not to stand out, and be somewhat devious, you never want people to know where you are camping out or what you are doing. The moment you get spotted is the moment you need to move.
Another soft approach is part time. I knew one guy who would go bush 6 months over the summer, then return to live as a normie, work and live in a city for the other 6 months over winter.

Of course all this sounds just fine, but its highly dependent on shit like your finances, what sort of job or benefits you have, how densely populated your area is, access to water, and the local climate.

>>508725691
>ou buy a patch of land with 2 or 3 people and build houses to live in what are essentially small colonies
That is an good long term solution. Having a secure base. But its fraught with problems, especially if bitches get involved, depends on what sort of deal you set up.
I have heard of only one long term community that has succeeded. But I am sure there are many more that simply fly under the radar ( deliberately so ).

>>508729018
You can do it into your 60s or 70s if you're built for it

>>508725434 (OP)
stop the larp. you think these goobers on 4chan can survive for 3 days out in the woods with no internet access?

The winter here is also no joke and probably the main reason I haven't gone full hobo besides just lack of experience.

>>508729226
There are quite a few of us

>>508728423
doesnt really resonate with me. i definitely dont blame anything on God. nor am i really dissatisfied with not being normal.

>>508728776
I agree. everyone looking to fuck off from society seems to settle on moving to british columbia's coastal islands north of vancouver island. i myself decided on this independently and was surprised to see so many other people come to the same conclusion

>>508728492
>I prefer my wilderness
You're posting on 4chan same as me.

best of luck though and send me a postcard via carrier pigeon when you actually live in a forest and have to brush your teeth with acorns

>>508729355
It was mainly the lyrics about everything being the same for his whole life, about not fitting in.

>>508729387
There are a lot of options, many microclimates in USA that are super nice.

>>508729409
I have a job and am currently in Colorado, I have a phone. I am a bike hobo. I survive by doing odd jobs. I am typically within 10 miles of a city. Everything I do is honest.

>>508729409
you know technology allows you to live in a cottage off grid and still have running water, internet access, electricity etc. nobody here is saying we want to live in a hole in the ground like a caveman. that is suicide, modern humans are far too removed from the wild, and even if you were an expert wilderness survivalist guru, one bad month is all it takes for you to starve to death

>>508725495
>>508725824
You and the "stealth camping" and "van life" people are not living off grid. You sleep in Wal Mart parking lots.

>>508729585
I do want to live in a hole in the ground like a caveman

But I dont like killing animals and so I do odd jobs instead

Call me yellow, it's fine

>>508729598
Broski you would cry on your way to my camp

>>508729585
ah well to me "off grid" always meant completely disconnected from modern civilization.

If you're doing like computer programming remote work at some cottage paying for your phone bill and water and heating and taxes - you're just living a cottage you're not off of any grid.

>>508729794
off grid is not paying taxes

I think that's a fair definition

I'm not off-grid, I get W2s from the odd jobs I get, I refuse 1099 work

>>508728701
They won't find you deep in the middle of a dense forest.

>>508729697
why, because it's so awe-inspiring and breath taking?

>>508729794
yeah off grid means different things to different people. in this case im talking about just buying land at least an hour from the closest small town. the BC interior has tons of that. you can go buy groceries every now and then, but it will be more expensive than if you lived in the city. and no you probably wouldnt do remote work cus the internet thing really only works if you use star link. if you live like this you probably dont have a job, or atleast not a conventional one. it just takes a lot of money and know how to get the land and develop it. living like this means not having to worry about the ills of urban areas.

>>508729794
>>508729936
Off grid just means not connected to electrical, water or sewer. Tons of normies do it now with remote work, satellite internet and dirt cheap housing. Most don't keep it up long term because its a fucking stupid way to live.

>>508729598
Anything's better than paying rent for 20 years and having nothing at the end of it

>>508728529

Im from QCI. It was fun for old timers, last of the wild west. Coast sucks now, people wrecked. Alaska probably still fun, but BC coast sucks.

Interior BC for me now. Big land, big machines and nobody else around.

>>508730127
>its a fucking stupid way to live.
its great if you have a wife and kids. probably the safest thing to do. living in the city puts you at the whims of its currents. lockdowns, the breakdown of society, disease etc are all big threats. your kids are safe from the government and you can raise them as you see fit. no public school, no hospital forcing them to get 80 injections after being born.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-went-grid-colorado-wilderness-died-malnutrition-autopsy-finds-rcna103009

>>508730127
True. I did many winters of -40 off grid--it sucks hard. On the grid now, but it costs big $$$ if you're out there

>>508730367
2 fat women and a kid. lmao

>>508730134
>Anything's better than paying rent for 20 years and having nothing at the end of it
Yeah, that's why you get a mortgage so instead of ending up with nothing, you own a house that is worth more than you paid for it. And your monthly payments are fixed over the course of the mortgage and will effectively decrease over time due to inflation, while rentfags get hit with rent increases every time they renew their lease.

>>508730295
City sucks. Id rather do off grid in the bush before I went back to the city.

But off grid sucks too. Best is middle of nowhere, but with grid power. Thats what I got

>>508730500
reddit told them they could just live off the land no problem.

>>508725434 (OP)
You’re like the third fellow bong I’ve heard expressing this sentiment in the same number of days. I’ve felt similar for a while. I think “civilisation” fatigue is really setting in around here.

>>508730078
No, because you don't live the life required to do the things I do.

>>508730127
Nah you gay

Nobody taking zoom calls if off grid

>>508725434 (OP)
>what's stopping you?
Nothing.
My family lives on large plots of grandfathered land surrounded by forest, lakes and rivers across a whole region.

When someone gets married we let them stay in one of the guest houses while their new home is built or an older one refurbished if there were no siblings that took it.
None of us will ever have to rent unless we choose to, despite living within commuting distance of major towns.

>>508728701
This is complete bullshit btw america literally has vast tracts of impenetrable wilderness there is no chance in hell they are able to survey all that with obese jew servants. Maybe if you live close to a town.

>>508730753
This nord knows the truth, city fags have no idea

>>508730295
I'm referring to people living solo. Off grid community with families is a totally different story, but its not feasible for most people.
>>508730400
Everyone underestimates how labor intensive the average day to day is as well. Worked on supply vessels on both coasts and have seen the most desolate shitholes, shit sucks and I don't envy any of it.
>>508730674
You're a hobo living ten miles from a city, lay off the fent and pipe down nigger.

>>508730500
I think the point he is making is that going off to live innawoods is not something to be taken lightly. Larpers won't survive.

>>508730886
I don't do drugs and in fact I'm an elite athlete capable of ironmans in good time.

You have absolutely no clue what is required to live the way that I do.

>>508729936
I'm sorry but if you're on the internet you're literally on the grid, connected to it.

fuckin hell, the internet is the worst part of post-industrial civilization too. If you're gonna sit there and be angry or upset at words or images on a screen - as people on the internet do - you may as well do it in a nice comfy climate controlled indoor room where you can stroll down the streets and chill at a cafe or order something to eat to your doorstep while you take a nice hot bubble bath instead of washing yourself with sand and eating twigs

>>508731066
Yeah I'm not off-grid, I stated this earlier. I have a phone and do odd jobs. Not off grid.

But I live very freely. I can decide to go somewhere else, whenever I want.

I would like to inspire others. This is a much better lifestyle than the rat race.

>>508731066
No, "the grid" refers to hard wire power.

>>508730126
>>508730127
>bro literally connected to the grid via internet subscription
look at me! I'm just like my ancestors :)

>>508730627
Interesting. I am in London, only feel truly happy when I go for hikes in epping forest.

Truly off-grids aren't here to inspire you, you cuck survivorship bias retards.

Lots of people do it.

>>508731192
probably because "living off grid" was a term coined before the rise of the internet.

Like I said, if you're living in a shack and still have to pay monthly to get mad at news articles online and tik tok videos - you're living the worst of both worlds

>>508725434 (OP)
Urbanites crave enslavement. They couldn't even imagine what it's like to go out to their front porch and piss into the wind without ending up as a registered sex offender.

>>508730753
if you create a permanent development on public/park land they will come knocking one day. perhaps far northern alaska you might get away with it but continental US no matter where they will eventually come ask what your doing there. it could take months it could take years, maybe long enough to think they'll never find you. they dont actively search for people doing this either(or maybe they do?) but any far off wilderness that isnt private land already has regulations in place and types of rangers/ conservation officers. private land obviously your fine, as long as its yours.
>>508730915
yeah i agree. if some SHTF happened you dont just run off into the woods and make traps for rabbits and eat berries. you will starve, freeze, break your ankle and not be able to move and thus die of the previous two, etc etc. the wilderness and mother nature does not give a shit how many survival manuals you've read, nature can be very unforgiving. i watched a documentary on siberian trappers, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1683876/ to me this is the limit of what you can really do, and even these guys go back to small villages regularly.
>>508731236
your clowning on people for wanting to not live in the urbs? chill out bro. and i only mentioned internet because of starlink. i personally would not have internet if i did live that way. if the life isnt for you thats fine.

>>508731460
>permanent development

nomad chads win again

If you have not trained your body to be able to bust out an ironman at any given moment you have fucked up and have not properly dialed in the physical output of a hunter gatherer

>>508730915
You definitely got to fast and eat & drink stuff you don’t want to if you aren’t shopping out of the wards or have some tributer or service person for food. They probably only looked online, never took advice or consul from who do live that lifestyle, and barely (if at all) read books on the wilderness or excessive rural living with bare civilization. I can’t claim to be of that live style cause I’m going to live in a small RV and in vicinity of the small city I’m from because I know that I couldn’t even live in such of an enviroment with the knowledge I know because I lack formal training and actual wild-life living. Many would not make it indeed.

>>508731722
Sometimes I realize I was lucky to grow up in rural Appalachia

The entirety of wilderness survival knowledge was gifted to me by the age of 12

You fucking losers are clueless.

You don't squat in the bush like a bum, go buy some land. And buy some Internet.

>>508725434 (OP)
99% of Anons here don't live in rural areas for very good reasons.
They always either live in cities or metropolitan areas.

For all the talk people here extolling the virtues of rural life, not many actually want to live the rural life.

>>508731944
Nah, do whatever you want. It's not as serious as they want you to believe. Don't give in to fear.

My norwegian grandparents lived in a fucking mud hut in north dakota

Being a bike hobo that travels with the seasons is SIGNIFICANTLY EASIER THAN THAT

>>508731722
>Many would not make it indeed.
People forget that before civilization, the ultimate punishment was exile. Which lead to a slow, inevitable death in most cases. The death penalty had to be invented because exile became far less of a threat with the advent of civilization.

>>508731963
yeah cus im 24 and cant afford shit cus of boomers and kikes ruining the country. if i was older and had enough savings i'd already be looking for a good chunk of land in the interior.

>>508725434 (OP)

There's spiders out there, fuck that shit.

It is a deeply serious crime that Canada is not part of America

I seethe at all that nature, despite being totally spoiled by the USA.

>>508732378
You guys have...Every single biome we do and then some. The deserts you guys have are neat.

>>508732378
i agree for different reasons.

>>508732605
Yeah it's absolutely fucking epic

But I can't lie, I see your wilderness and coom a little

>>508732740
>But I can't lie, I see your wilderness and coom a little
Fair enough. Taking a ten hour flight and seeing nothing but woods is pretty amazing. Only other place like this in the world is Russia.

>>508725434 (OP)
you can die very easily. the canadian bush is inhospitable. it isn't a forest as much as it is a jungle.

Grand Junction Colorado

Great trees in Pinon Mesa and Grand Mesa, everything between is like the Grand Canyon

Kino here, though I intend to leave in a few months

>>508726811
Probably a lot of nasty ways to die in the Amazon. Tropical diseases, poisonous creatures, piranhas, anacondas etc. Everything wants a piece of your flesh.

America's wild lands are much more forgiving. Biggest threat is freezing to death but that can be avoided by seasonal migration.
The people one is likely to encounter innawoods are also much less murderous here.

There was a book called "The Human Cougar" about a guy who survived the Great Depression by going innawoods in Idaho.

There was a guy who did it for 26 years in Maine. He stole though. A lot.

I kept hearing about people doing it in places l used to hang around in (New Mexico and Utah).

>>508731460
>your clowning on people for wanting to not live in the urbs?
Nah I'm clowning on people living on the grid pretending to be off grid.

If you want to live in a normal-ass house in the woods paying your bills like anyone else that's neat there's less pollution and crime and stress etc compared to the city or suburban life but it's still living on the grid

>>508733661
I want you to know its a very pathetic thing, and this is true for all subjects, to make a claim of what is legitimate without ever having dipped your toes

You purity spiraling little pussy

Any step away from society is good

>>508733661
>If you want to live in a normal-ass house in the woods
thats what 9/10 people itt are talking about in the first place
>paying your bills
ideally there are no bills. kind of off topic but i'd never get land out there if the mortgage requires me to pay longer than a few years. realistically if i cant outright buy it thats bs. modern finance and credit systems are so goyed idk how boomers let this shit get implemented. i will never get a credit card or credit score no matter how much society requires it.

It takes a really brave person to live in the rural area.

I had to absolutely move out of the city and the metro area, the BEST i could do is live in a micropolitan area.

>>508733279
>grand function
you should go to pueblo next, tons of stuff to do and lots of jobs

>>508734069
Peublo is awful

Grand Junction is awesome and you only think otherwise is you're a soulless denver cretin

>>508728701
There are almost 1 million acres of BLM land per ranger, so you will be fine unless you do something really stupid to attract attention to yourself (bonfires, building a structure near a trail, poaching endangered species, etc.)
Be prepared to move 100m every two weeks. I think that's the law.

>>508734529
In some states its like 10+ miles

But a bike hobo doesnt need to worry, only carcucks get regulated

Im homesteading and my brother is hiking 1000km in norwegian forrests for half a year right now.
It's just a mindset. Anyone talking but not doing will never do.

If you fuck up just once in the wilderness here you freeze to death completely

>>508730506
Mortgages are interest-free now? Lmao.

>>508725434 (OP)
Why do you keep posting this thread over and over again?

>>508733959
>Any step away from society is good
sure I totally agree with that but calling it "off grid" triggers my autism like nothing else

it's like kids who call themselves straight edge when they don't even listen to that highly specific sub-genre of punk rock, or calling not-zombies "zombies"

>>508733988
>thats what 9/10 people itt are talking about in the first place
Is it? It seems like most people are talking about living on bikes and trainhopping and whatever around towns, and others are talking about starting a 4chan commune in the woods.

>>508725434 (OP)
I do.

>>508729018
I vagabonded around NZ in a van. Stayed at a hippie commune that almost got ruined by a greedy, vindictive woman and heard of another that did get ruined.

In one place, there was a hippie who lived in a woodpile. Council kept looking for his illegal dwelling but they never found it.

>>508734901
Sure I dont like gay ass "off grid" basedcucks that have a 200k motorhome either

But if you visit America you will find A LOT of people that do truly live off grid

Purity spiraling doesnt nudge people the right direction, you just convince them its impossible

But its actually super easy

Mexican larborers unironically steal my job

Those are my fields, Paco

>>508730367
Imagine being a poor 14yo boy being guilt tripped into collecting food for two fat, useless 41yo femoids who just sit around and bitch. Because I'm 99% sure that's what happened.

>>508735464
If you cannot go 3 days without food, doing a full strenuous workload each of those days you have absolutely no business being away from a city without resources

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/25/travis-decker-manhunt-search/84349232007/


They still havent found the guy that killed his kids and pulled a rambo in washington

>>508735733
Its been roughly a month

bump

>>508725434 (OP)
Some of us are more privileged than others.

>>508736715
The American southwest has limited canyons
Appalachia is loaded to the brim with caves
The pacific northwest is literally eden for white people

I can continue

I have maps

>>508736885
limitless***

goddammit

>>508734627
Carcucks also can't get past the locked gates that the (((government))) has been putting up to keep the goyim on the plantation.

>>508736885
This.

>>508737731
Based anon, never lose your spirit

bump

Hitler did nothing wrong

>>508734789
Should be fine in a good chunk of BC and the islands. Anywhere east of the Rockies, definitely.

>>508731179
So your food is mainly from groceries when you have money or do you hunt/forage mainly? Like what is your day to day diet like and from where?

>>508740157
I make enough money that I don't need to hunt or fish. I kind of don't like killing animals so I'm glad I make enough money for this.

I eat retarded food. My diet is shit. I'm just an absolute savage that disregards most things and keeps going anyways.

>>508725652
If Brazilians can post from the treetops than dude can post in the woods

>>508725434 (OP)
>What's stopping you?
>>>
Cereal killers, mosquitos, bears, wolves, snakes....

>>508740734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM1VTFfbtUs

>>508740954
Way to be a woman

You never heard of the old adage? "What are the odds of two serial killers being in the same car?"

Stop being a bitch.

im not white

>>508725434 (OP)
We do but the governments try their hardest to make it impossible. If you want to have the smallest of amenities like a regular human you are busting your ass everyday for it or spending crazy money that you cant make in the woods. unless you are like a youtube millionaire or retiring a millionaire you aint doing it comfortably. living in the woods yea. comfortably no.

>>508741189
then please die fast

>>508725434 (OP)
Working on it. Land's expensive.

>>508741745
>he thinks he has to buy the land

cuckery

>>508741219
thats whats happening to white people worldwide.

>>508741931
True

>>508725824
Wtf are you even trying to say

>>508725434 (OP)
the jews are attacking innawoods with drought and then forest fire and then after that flooding.

>>508741998
Well anon this isn't a charity, please try to improve your reading skills on your own time

You goddamned 1st nation nigger

>>508725434 (OP)
it gets to be -40c regularly during the winter where I live. If the power goes out people start dropping like fly's, if youre in the woods and cant get your fire going or if it goes out during the night you die. Your log cabbin would have to be like 8 trees wide by 10 tall and mostly underground to survive. When my ancestors moved here they had to build little hobbit hole houses until they could make actual houses with thick insulation just to survive. Its a harsh country. Bugs in the summer will eat you alive, the sun will burn you to death in +40c weather and in the winter the cold will get you.
Theirs predatory animals and stuff too but just bears and wolves where I live, I guess badgers too but you dont have to worry about cougars or anything so they arent really a problem.
Foods fairly abundant.

>>508742579
Stu Hart didnt bitch and complain when he grew up in a tent in Saskatchewan what makes you special

>>508742132
I just got back here. Did you ever post images or proof of your life?

>>508742681
I'm not a picture taker but I'm here >>508733279
at the moment

>>508727170
Not enough kudzu to be Georgia

>>508742669
How do I know you aren't just lying and larping?

>>508742758
Fun fact: Kudzu is extremely nutritious, and southerners could eat it and even replace their entire diet with it but they are SIMPLY TOO STUPID.

>>508730506
Average tard here has the mentality of a nigger and probably just wastes their weekly checks on porn and videogames. The idea of getting a mortgage is impossible for them because that requires them to create budgets.

>>508742802
You don't. Welcome to the internet bitch. Your eggs are nothing. Farmer homesteads are comfy mode. You don't know hardship.

>>508742733
A picture of a bike with lights on it doesn't do anything for me.

So your like a homeless drifter? But you have absolutely no resources and a bike that looks like it was taken down from the guest garage?

>>508742950
Seethe

>>508742890
So your just lying and larping then huh....

>>508725434 (OP)
it's all owned by the state/blackrock/bill gates

>>508725434 (OP)
The great conundrum is that most people here are mega larpers. You're asking them to mostly give up browsing /pol/ nonstop and also somehow find a job to provide for themselves that is too physically taxing for their pasty out of shape bodies.

>>508742834
Nah it's just bitter and gross. What kind of retard would eat that when Walmart is right there.

>>508743010
There exist no words you can say to me that can get me to react

Sorry, queer boy, you'll never have the balls to live like me

Your responses are so gay there is an absolute 0% chance I will provide you with anything

You are not even human to me

>>508743002
If anyone believes you at all they must be the most gullible retards to ever exist.

Why did you lie?

>>508742669
who the fuck is stu hart? Why dont you come up here and try it for a year, make sure someone knows your location so we can collect whatever remains of your body after a few months.

>>508743072
>cant cook

>>508725434 (OP)
The most realistic thing you can do is hobby every skill you'd need for self reliance. There is no competition with slaves overseas until the shipping stops.

>>508743124
>picture of a whitetail

You are an obese nothing faggot pussy, you cannot make any claim to the wilderness

>>508729353
>There are quite a few of us
>63 posts so far
What? You mean larpers? You been posting in here for 3 hours straight. I don't believe for a second you're living off the grid.

>>508725434 (OP)
You want to get raped by samsquanch?

>>508743101
I don't care if you react. But people should know your lying and your just pretending.

Why lie though? Just out of curiosity.

>>508743129
>Who is Stu Hart
>Canadian

Go back to India. NOW.

>>508743202
Why do you lie?

Why are you like this?

>>508743203
I have free time from not being a wagie :^)
>>508743219
Nope, this life is easy, you and your soul is DEDICATED TO BEING A PUSSY THOUGH LOL

WEAK BIIIITCH HAHAHAHAHA

>>508743299
It's very comfy to be a nomadic bike hobo, you know nothing about anything, you're just a gutless faggot. Nobody on earth is as weak as you.

>>508743240
This guy is a phoney.

Boo your larp..my culture is not your costume.

>>508743147
>Walmart doesn't sell things you can cook
Ok

>>508725434 (OP)
I have a good perspective on this I think, especially as an Anglo who lives in Toronto, the most hellscape of hellscape cities. I live here because it's mine. My ancestors built this place, it belongs to me. York was the seat of power in upper Canada, and abandoning it in the face of third world swarthoid hordes feels like surrender, so I suffer through it. All our greatest institutions are here, our great architecture, our statues of the forefathers, inventers, and geniuses that built this place.

>>508743365
Boo this phoney.

>>508743388
Keep being mad, bill paying nutless FAG
>>508743395
I didnt say this

>>508743430
this guy pays rent and is mad about it

call him gay

hes a pussy

haha

>>508743309
Brother. You have consistently lied on the short 5 minutes I've talked to you.
You have no explanation why you are a hobo with no resources, not even a backpack and your riding around on a sporty bike with lights like you took a evening ride and decided you were in touch with nature or something.

Why are you such a queer? Why pretend? Just go actually do it

>>508743576
>no resources
>cant read thread

I've stated many times that I live by doing odd jobs

I don't need to read the rest of your statement

It is insane you are challenging me when you cannot even read

>>508743388
based chicken wrangler.

>>508743534
>>508743471
Your lying again....

What makes a person like this? What has happened in your life that you are on 4chan lying about your life.

Where are you in life that being homeless and drifting is considered elevated?

Are you a poverty tourist?

I have so many questions I'd ask if you were able to keep focus, answer a question, and not go onto some.unhigned fantasy tirade.

God your so interesting but not for the reasons you think.

>>508743647
How did you eat that night after taking the picture of your bike?

Southeast Alaska reporting in live from the Tongass Rain Forest. It's raining right now and you'd get wet you sill retards. Everything is wet, your clothes, your food, your fire starters, super wet. Deluth Fire Hose Rain Pants? How about Deluth Soaking Wet Marketing Pants? Most people don't know there are levels to soaking wet.

>>508743840
I did not read this post

Just calling the guy gay

I'm not even far down on the totem pole of survival

I don't hunt or fish, just nomadically travel and do farm and trade work and sometimes write a funny resume with my comp sci degree and get a web dev gig.

This dude is a worthless human.

>>508743804

>>508743904
I was on the way to work, anon. You can get work as a bike hobo. Wow, what a revelation.

>>508726261
>Just disregard laws

Just dont obey them
The only good advice ITT.

t. Actively disobeys laws for fun, doesn't believe in registration or having to tell the government anything.

>>508743997
Literally no reason to follow them, everyone is just a pussy

>all the mortgage shills ITT
Feels like walking into a bank, lmao

Renting is literally throwing your money away. Mortgaging requires simultaneously being bullish on the West (lol) so as to keep your equity, and naively assuming the gubbermint wouldn't just seize property in a SHTF (bigger lol.)

Unfortunately burgers are too retarded and never lived through a collapse, so this will be a rude awakening for them.
The West has basically ALREADY collapsed, in that it is full or niggers and trannies.

Imagine investing in property in it, lmao.
>muh BRICS nigger
BRICS is gonna collapse too.
The world is fucked, don't assume I'm on anyone's side here.

Bikechads ITT, I salute you.

>>508743966
Ok so what did you eat? How? What did you eat that night? How?

How do you manage resources.
Where's your water come from?
Where's your food come from?
Where do you shit?
Where do you sleep?
How do you shower for your "work" which was odd jobs 3 posts ago?
How do you pay your phone/internet. Your talking to me on the Internet?
Where do you wash your clothes?

I have a million questions I'll never get answers for.

>>508744180
Didnt read

fucking lunatic retard GO AWAY

I live an easy life you fucking idiot, its EASY to live like me

THIS IS INSANE.

>>508744041
reddit spambot thread

>>508744180
Remember to sage when you post or better yet don't engage him. He's not going to be truthful.

>>508744289
>spambot

Actually I just have a lot of free time. Bitch.

>>508744289
I forget that Grapeape openly allows spambots to flood 4chan. Why do I even come here anymore.

>>508744250
Anon, ignore the shitposters.
I am in a similar boat, and got laughed off of another board for asking for advice.

These people are such fucking conditioned golems, their brains crash out in conversations like these.

Cheers.

>>508744303
Ok I genuinely want you to have a bad life

How dare you think living freely is hard to access

FUCK YOU

YOU WORTHLESS PUSSY BITCH

YOU ARE NOTHING

>>508744250
I know you live a easy life. I genuinely believe that. I think you are a emotionally stunted teenager or maybe in your 20s living in some mcmansions on the side of an upscale neighborhood with your parents.

I genuinely believe your poverty larping.

If you engaged with anyone on the "street" in anyway the way your acting now you would be educated by the other tramps.

Your life is so empty and meaningless you can only reach out to the world through fictional feelings of adventures and how you imagined they'd be.

>>508744402
It's okay, it actually doesn't require much energy from me to be rude. I enjoy it.

>>508744453
Seethe, you are literally too pussy to go on a bike ride. That's your life. You're a bitch. Accept it. Other people have gone further without any of the same concerns. You are a bitch. That's you.

>>508744402
You aren't on here larping....yet. You want advice ask away?
Everyone should have a safe place to sleep.

>>508744559
Tents count as this, primitive shelters count as this

>>508744535
God damn you're so interesting....

>>508744535
>>508744535
what kind of bike tires do you use, do you have any recommendations? also what makes you get the most flats when riding a bike

>>508744643
He sounds indian

>>508744593
>>508744180
Show tent or answer other questions

>>508744643
Big life mistake: Getting intimidated by people that think things are hard

I got rid of pussies like you 20 years ago

>>508744559
I just live in a minivan, anon, and wanted advice on where to go in the Americas that's not too expensive, has a decent climate (not too hot, not too cold), and has decently attractive women.

Moved into it 6 months after divorce.
Advice would be appreciated.

>>508744713
None, I just get whatever comes. Bikes kind of piss me off. When I get them I have them, when I don't I don't. I'm fucking hate bikes, truthfully. I only keep them around when they don't give me trouble.

>>508725434 (OP)
>just live in the woods bro, as long as I can still have access to all my comfy technology developed in those evil high density cities
Rural fags who do this are literally scum of the earth. These are people who normally would be in mental institutions but have essentially been allowed to self select themselves into irrelevancy by living out in the dirt.
Some of these losers hang on by having an overpaid white man's government job/pension.
Wild watching these people think they've won at life, especially the richer fools who live in the middle of nowhere called a "retirement community" with a golf course, have nothing to live for and resort to traveling for entertainment because they've crafted a completely retarded fake boring way of anti-social living.

>>508744725
You might be on to something. I'm so use to Israeli false flags I never thought it might be a pajeet ameriboo fantasizing about some weird gypsy American life.

>>508744736
You can eat my dick

>>508744860
You haven't told me that you even wash or how so no.

>>508744887
planet fitness and creeks(currently the colorado river)

I dont respect you and I will not reply to your ID a single more time

>>508725434 (OP)
>America & Canada bros - why don't you live out in the forests?
I do retard. My state is like 90% fucking forest. It's humid as fuck and miserable during the summer.

>>508728540
america is going to be turd colored in 50 years outside alaska and south dakota because whites and injuns are the only ones who can handle the weather

>>508744828
I sell eggs to yuppies. And sell call ducks to yuppies and sell food to cities.

I know the fags you speak off and I got a entire speech about how they are niggers.

>>508744992
Don't you have trees?

>>508744958
If I change my id will you respond?

>>508745117
Yes and that's why it's fucking miserable during the summer.

>>508744958
Hey can you answer
>>508744180
Questions. I'm curious too.

Almost 300 posts, and no one has said bigfoot or the Wendigo. Fake ass non-americans in this thread.

>>508745244
The west has a way different humidity dymanic

I grew up in Kentucky and began my innawoods life there

It's much much much harder than anything out west

90 degrees at 2 in the morning just kicks your fucking ass no matter who you are

>>508744828

Peak socialization:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDOrOMuo-9o

Alt take:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLisEEwYZvw

>>508745312
You're a gay bitch, just a gay bitch, I'm far from the hardest person in America. There are a 5 digit amount of people living more hardcore than me in U.S.

It's so hilariously pathetic that you think a bike hobo is a hard time.

You are the most weak person alive.

Your weakness was beyond my imagination. I did not know this could happen.

You pussy.

>>508745244
Trees make it less miserable. Almost 20 degrees lower in some cases. I don't know if you got access but sitting next to a creek under a forest canopy when it's 90+ is almost like an air conditioner.


I know you said it was humid. I'm in Appalachia, i get it.

Cold air sinks. Fink a nice creek in a deep ditch with tree cover and it's a beautiful feeling.

>>508725434 (OP)
I do, surrounded by mountains and forest

>>508745471
If I knew you would respond to my id again I wouldn't of wasted my time here
>>508745312

>>508745486
trees hide sun but they bring humidity, depending on your region it can be a burden

>>508745529
I did it for the laughs you whore don't worry

>>508725434 (OP)
I live between good sized suburbs and small cities and mountains and lakes and major cities. All within driving distance so it's nice. Virginia

>>508745351
105 this morning and that's just this morning. Didn't even want to get out of bed today.

>>508745633
Yeah see you are living in the wrong place

the bike hobo does not have this issue

>>508745673
No I was explaining to him what to do when you don't have trees on your property. I'm fine.

Everyone knows your not a hobo, maybe a homo lol.

>>508745471
If i ever see you im hitting your ass with my car. I hope someone kills you nigger

nothing sadder than "hobo" being out of reach in your mind for what is possible

LOL

>>508745346
I'd wendigo my dick into her, until my bigfoot Sasquatched all over her skunk ape.

>>508745848
Keep trying, I lived biking for over a decade in rural Kentucky. I'm still alive. The rest of America IS VERY SAFE AND COMFY in comparison.

Colorado is awesome.

>>508725434 (OP)
I don't like bugs.

>>508745895
English not your first language?

>>508725434 (OP)
A lot of us do.
I live in northern michigan.
Nothing but forests here

>>508745953
I grew up in Kentucky..brother. Let's go look where at?

>>508746001
Nope. Appalachian. It's hard. As soon as I open my mouth I lose white collar interviews. Likewise, as soon as I open my mouth I get roped into fixing a house or a car.

Westerners are VERY RACIST to southern accents.

>>508745953
Name some land marks.
Name some trails.
Hell..tell me anything about Kentucky!

>>508746130
Your not american. No one in America would ever use the cadence "no Appalachian".

Guy was right about you being Indian.

>>508746054
Jackson County how about you faggot bitch that doesnt think people can live outside in America the easiest place in the world to do it

You literally come from the land of Daniel Boone how dare you shame his fucking name by being such a pussy

I once climbed a waterfall in Frankfort Kentucky, only to find DANIEL BOONE'S GRAVE AT THE TOP

FUCK YOU PUSSY

>>508746130
You asshole arent a race, they are just bigoted.
I dont think it's your accent that limits you...

>>508746161
LMAO biiiitch

clifty wilderness was my playground you fucknut

>>508725434 (OP)
Our cities are overcrowded with cars, not people. Not crowded enough with people, impossible to walk anywhere.

>>508746266
Nah, I get much better results if I hide the stupid ass Kentucky accent

Really, Kentucky bros, the rest of the world treats you differently, you need to hide that shit

>>508746130
Westerners are very racist to southern accents?

Did you do no research before your larp? I have never heard these words in that order in my life. No american refers to themselves as westerners in opposition to the southern dialect. The southerns literally are westerners.

This is fucking stupid.

>>508746369
That's the nice thing about being midwestern.
No real accent.

>>508746384
Its pretty fucking acute, actually.

>>508746415
Yeah you guys luck out

southern accent in a comp sci interview is MUCH WORSE than an indian accent

>>508746308
Your Indian as fuck.

>>508746470
pussy I bet you've never even had full body poison ivy thanks to blessed kentucky woods

>>508746433
What does this even mean?
It's very acute? What is very acute?

>>508746369
I’ll never hide who I am for fickle false acceptance

>>508746539
Holy shit I can hear the Indian accent.

>>508746544
You will be treated acutely relative to your accent in the west. At an RV dealership in the west, a southern accent, you will be put on the highest horse that can be found, you take a tech interview on zoom with a southern accent, now you've done a big hitler all over the place.

Do you really want to be chilling in a makeshift shelter
while a redneck (with a shotgun) sneaks up
and demands you suck his willy?

>>508728678
there is nothing free about not having ac or a clean bed or a place to shit or shower or a car that is paid for. freedom is not having to worry about the essentials 24x7.

>>508746581
I'm with you but know you'll need big balls brother

>>508746591
This guy lives in Louisville and his hardest day in life was on a golf course

>>508746638
Many parts of the US you can avoid stupid shit like AC, just not the south.

>>508746611
I was born in Kentucky..my father worked at CVG during its glory days. I flew Continental for free. You got no fucking clue what your talking about.

SAAAAARRRRRR

>>508746665
I’m 45. I’ve been doing alright so far. Sipping Lynchburg lemonade in the heat right now

>>508746704
What parts of the USA can you avoid ac without naming California.
Go.

>>508746731
I'm actually by FAR the whitest man in Kentucky at least when I lived there, as I am 80% Norwegian.

I was like an alien to you inbred retarded scotch-irish subhuman niggers.

>>508746762
lol nice
>>508746795
alpine regions its all about elevation there are like 11 states for this

>>508746839
This guy is actually from here

>>508746870
Have a good night saaaaarrrrrr

>>508747086
I know its hard to believe you can live outdoors when your boots get wetter by leaving them outside

but in the west this doesnt happen

cupcake

I do but they cut it all down day after day to expand the suburban sprawl. Endless road projects, developers buying and bulldozing millions of acres for new McMansionvilles, you name it. I have watched my hometown go from being Bumfuck, Nowhereville to the satellite town for the nearest large city. Even the liberals who screech about climate change vote in officials who sign off on these building projects. There is heavy machinery sitting down the street from me as I speak working daily to destroy everything that is left.

>>508725434 (OP)
lol you live in London? Might as well live in somalia at this point. Rip.

>>508725434 (OP)
>>508747641
Is the forest full of niggers and pakis?

>>508747191

>>508725495
I'm about to leave on a bike tour myself. Where the fuck do you camp in there prairies?

>>508748375
*the prairies

>>508748375
Well, that's actually nice land. It's much more beautiful than people claim.

But I covered that by train. Lol. Based Amtrak.

I've seen a video of this guy demonstrating from the weather radar that they're burning the Canadian forests simultaneously both sides - possibly lasers. This was happening around the derailment rouse.

>>508748510
bottiest post ever

>>508748558
Also the possibility of drones hunting people

>>508748440
Based, I took via rail once (our amtrak) was fun as heck.

I wish there were more forest in the prairies. I did a bike tour out east last year and it was so easy to just camp in the woods.

Regardless, I salute you bike champ

>>508748675
Best of luck on your adventures friend, it's worth it

>>508748741
Thanks bud, you too :)

>>508748375
>about to leave
Just leave you fuckin homo pussy

>>508748861
I literally am packing right now. When are you setting out?

>>508748977
>>508748861
Leaf fight!!!
Leaf fight!!!
Leaf fight!!!