Thread 508908533

Remember this fucking idiot

>carbon fiber is totally fine for deep pressure
>despite everyone telling him its not
>production process shows that lumps in the layers were manually sanded down, breaking the loops of fiber
>multiple inch think layers glued together and heat treated 5 times
>cracking sounds when testing it himself, carried on anyway
>fired anyone who raised concerns
>carbon fiber tube glued to titanium endrings with about an inch of join, hand applied glue with plastic scrapers
>reused parts from 1st model that got struck by lightning and cracked while stored outside

https://youtu.be/n8pF1lCVvfw
https://youtu.be/o2h4FHmTmeE?t=485
https://youtu.be/QaV__EcyKGU?t=82

Darwin award winners. I didn't lose sleep over it.

>>508908533 (OP)
>carbon fiber is totally fine for deep pressure
>despite everyone telling him its not
Except he made a bunch successful trips you fucking muslim retard.
Sure he was cheap asshole, even too cheep for his own good but he actually achieved something while your sorry shitty brown ass will be forever terminally online seething about others.
L.E.L.

>>508908533 (OP)
Should just build the thing out of water and fill it with water at a high pressure

>>508908533 (OP)
>meanwhile, desperate metal clanking sounds at the wreck never truly stops

>>508908533 (OP)
>idiot
>singular

>>508908984
>fatigue sets in after multiple compression cycles
>gets weaker every time its used
>will absolutely 100% inevitably fail
>even if prefectly made, which is wasn't
>production process showed multiple flaws and delaminating, glue separation
>home-made untested audio warning detector system on hull that was partially not working / ignored anyway

Meanwhile, DSV Alvin, made 60 years ago using a titanium sphere, is still in active service. Every other deep sea vessel usues the same basic design for the pressure capsule.

>>508908533 (OP)
also
>stored outside for months including in freezing weather prior to final voyage

it's crazy that they all got mushed into that titanium end cap

>>508908533 (OP)
Checked

>>508909587
Kek

>>508909487
Also-
>the trip before the fatal one, the platform was not ballasted properly and was half sunk at an angle
>waves slamming the sub up and down repeatedly on the platform

Also-
>lifting ring attached to the join rings against the express instruction of an engineer that was fired
>lifting whole thing with weight of it all on the join with the tube and the ring

So many fucked up things its hard to even pinpoint one flaw that was the main cause

>>508909800
The proper way to test it would be unmanned with tons of monitors, testing it UNTIL it fails, then analyzing the data and improving

>>508908984
He achieved nothing other than being a fucking laughingstock. Deep sea vessel design principles were clearly understood by the time he pulled his stunt, and he was warned that he was playing a losing game. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>508908533 (OP)
2023 was the best year when those rich cocksuckers imploded in the deep sea

EAT THE RICH, FISH!

White Excellence killing normies

It was such a tragedy
They could have fit twice the number of rich people in there.

>>508910110
Imagine if he was thinking "You know what, this is too risky and this will be my last time and we'll really sit down with some good engineers and look things over" right before he turned into cyber shark chum

>>508908533 (OP)
I don't see any bodies, so to my mind this was staged.

>>508909995
The actual final hull was tested once in a chamber. The hull was needed to be 5 inch thick (no one really knows who decided that, boeing recommended at least 7 inches. Probably because he already had a 5 inch joining ring he could reuse from the first version). Company that was to heat treat the hull refused to do 5 inches at once, so they did it in 1 inch layers that were cured separately then a layer of glue and another inch added and cured, 5 times. Meaning that the first layer was already cured whent he second layer was added, then cured again when doing the second layer and so on. That design was tested once, and then used.

Offcut parts of the ring showed many cases of pic related, where they hand-sanded lumps on each layer, meaning those fibers were not complete rings at all.

>>508910415
I went down there, it was real. Although it was a bit odd the sub had wooden doors...

>>508908533 (OP)
He only bought the best expired carbon fiber for his tube and he refused to hire white guys since all they care about is "safety".
Not very inspirational at all.

>>508908984
I'm not the one who's dead

>>508908984
Yeah he achieved death lmao

>>508910452
Aww cmon whats the worst that could happen

>>508908984
>he made successful trips
what a fucking retard, negro tier reasoning

Daily reminder that this was sabotage from big subnautical. The sub made the dive safely a dozen times. His sub was an order of magnitude cheaper than the industry leaders. He was on a path to make subs affordable for all. Every family would be able to buy a summer sub, disrupting the whole sub tourism industry. They took him out.

>>508910590
Wtf I love Princess Zelda now

>>508908533 (OP)
>reused parts from 1st model that got struck by lightning and cracked while stored outside
that must have been God's plead to reconsider

>>508908533 (OP)
The craziest thing about this entire debacle is that if they were just 10% less cheap with the sub's construction it probably would have worked out. Assuming they retired hulls after ~20 dives or so.

>>508908533 (OP)
You're retarded. The entire thing was fake. It didn't happen. It was a Jewish ritual that was related Solomon's shamir.
Try and get redpilled eventually losers, instead of buying into the bs they're putting out for normie cattle.

>>508910646
whatever you do, don't rotate one of her earrings 60 degrees and overlap it with the other

>>508910675
So he interfered with free will?

reminder it signalled the start of the DEI incompetency crisis

>>508910646

>now

Dude i've been saving zelda since she was released shes mine.

>>508908533 (OP)
Anybody who fell for this blatant psyop is under total mind control. If you read into this story, watched the constant mainstream media barrage or started making memes about this completely fake event, then you are a mind controlled NPC simple as. Before this one, it was some other narrative most people just gobbled up like it was fresh cum. Not to mention coronahoax in the years before. With each new psyop they are exposing the cattle more and more.

>>508910819
How come we got no kooky schizo stuff about his name?
>Stockton Rush

>He had a vested interest in tons of rushing water killing him instantly

>>508910692
This but it was for comms

Yeah, totally. His state of the art carbon fiber hull exploded, but wood furniture has been sitting around fine there 100 years.

Not politics

>>508909587
>*slams into ocean bed at full speed*
>what the fuck hand over the controls
>*hides controller away from engineer*
>*visible debris and landing gear floating*
>STOCKTON GIVE ME THE CONTROLLER NOW ILL GET US OUT OF THIS
>*keeps dragging sub against ocean floor*
>*woman passenger calls him a fucking retard*
>*has temper tantrum and throws controller at head*
>*engineer easily recovers situation and gets immedietly fired for embarassing stockton despite saving his life"
This guy was BALLS TO THE WALL RETARDED AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
https://youtu.be/1aRVGRF2U-0?si=M1H1OzSKFBNf9mas

>>508908533 (OP)
delta p

>>508908533 (OP)
The design by Boeing would have apparently been just fine had there existed a manufacturer capable of making it. Boeing suggested doing 45 degree angles for the carbon fiber (cross weaved).
But the manufacturer they used also apparently did not make a very good product either. The porosity was high and there was a lot of bubbles that they ground down before adding more layers.

It definitely is possible to use carbon fiber theoretically, just not in practice due to manufacturing complexity.

>>508911191
>mom says it my turn on the controller!
>throws it at his head

Also-
>completely unclassified or registered
>picked a dive site in international waters to avoid legal problems
>called $250k paying passengers "mission specialists" also to avoid legal issues
>CO2 scrubber was tupperware box with a PC fan on it
>one trip someone had installed one of the turbines backwards so all it would do is spin in circles when pushing forward
>one time the front dome fell off while on the platform getting ready to dive

>>508908533 (OP)
An excellent illustration of how hubris kills. Tell that story to your kids so that they don't grow up arrogant retards.

Don't forget using a $20 video game controller with a reputation for connection problems.

>>508911073
The Titanic notably filled with water. That's actually what caused it to sink.
The tardmarine was full of air.

So wait, the thing didn't just get pulverised? I haven't been following this since the initial week or so.

>>508910452
>Offcut parts of the ring showed many cases of pic related, where they hand-sanded lumps on each layer, meaning those fibers were not complete rings at all.
BRUH

>>508911073
>>508911723
Reminder the titanic didn't sink, the Olympic is what sunk. (((They))) just had to save a buck when killing the businessmen who opposed the federal reserve. There was no iceberg. The titanic was sold to Europe.

>>508908984
>it worked a few times by some miracle so it's ok forever
Tell me more of your master engineering advice, Serbanon.
Lol, lmao even

>>508911459
The fact that it made it to Titanic depth a dozen times with how god awful its build quality was does imply there is potential to the idea. Just don't cheap out as much and do some extensive testing to figure out a good safe number of dives for when to retire a hull.

>>508908533 (OP)
The wealthier you are the smarter you are.

>>508911770
Carbon fiber also fatigues like aluminum. Each dive it gets weaker and weaker. There's a reason subs are made out of metal.

Also the plexiglass window was not rated to that depth. Be was told it wasn't, and ignored it.

>>508911459
Carbon fiber also fatigues so you don't know when it's going to fail. Horrible idea.

>>508911326
>this kills the crab

But does everyone remember they were lying about a rescue and theorising how and where they could be alive when the experts knew they were dead?
Because I do.

>>508908984
Ya he managed to achieve getting himself and the other people on born pulped and scattered around the bottom of the ocean lol

>>508910949
>How come we got no kooky schizo stuff about his name?
He had a distant ancestor who was also involved in a naval disaster with poorly made technology.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/comments/14h9x7r/oceangate_ceo_stockton_rush_kept_reminding_me_of/

He was descended from two Founding Fathers, his wife was descended from two famous Jews who died on Titanic.

If he had any kids, they would do well to stay away from the North Atlantic.

>>508911525
>CO2 scrubber was tupperware box with a PC fan on it
You shitting me right? I want the vid on this. This is some proper engineering fail kino

>>508911978
Coast Guard was just following their procedures, retarded media ran with the narrative that a rescue could have been mounted.

>>508908533 (OP)
Your the only fucking idiot if you really think carbon fiber can crush you. These guys are not dead, definately not in the way that they tell us. Have you ever lifted carbon fiber? It ways next to nothing. It'd be like a bag of packaging popcorn falling on your head. Wow! I'm so dead! Not. They were killed by the government because they got too close to finding out what Titanic was carrying.

>>508911978
they was alive for around 3 days

>>508912124
Its the water that crushed them, dumdum

>>508912192
No they weren't, sudden catastrophic failure
Never fucking (you) me again you subhuman street shitting JEET!
I hope your mother gets the black death, fucking fecaloid

>>508912227
Yeah because every morning you have showers where the water is made of bricks. I've heard all this crap before. Water ways barely more than the carbon fiber.

>>508912297
I will report you to police.

>>508908533 (OP)
I'm more surprised it worked before it went horribly wrong

>>508908533 (OP)
>>carbon fiber is totally fine for deep pressure
Carbon fiber IS totally fine for deep pressure, as evidenced by the three successful dives prior to the catastrophic implosion.
It's about knowing limits and tolerances.
You have to know the fail point of what you build.

His problem was hubris, not material science.

>>508908984
>Sure he was cheap asshole, even too cheep for his own good but he actually achieved something
Ohhhh, I'm sure he did. *smile and nods.*
Why don't we go ask him ourselves what that may be?...Oh...right! He's dead.

Lmao.

>>508912387
The cyber police? I'll pay them off with unused google gift cards
JJJJEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT

>>508911890
Even thouhg it probably wasn't the front window failing that caused it, that angered me too. Apparently some guy in the navy spent his entire life, like 40 years, studying and documenting different sizes and shapes of portholes, and the depths they can take. And that is the bible that eeveryone uses when making portholes. And tese clowns said "fuck that" and went with their own flawed design that was inherently weak just to improve visability. And trhe people making it refused to rate it anywhere near the required depth, and they still used it anyway

you ever wonder what their final conversations were in that shitty submarine before it imploded and turned everyone into fine paste?
I bet they tried to bribe god to save them before finally realizing that all their money couldn't save them.

>>508912398
Well technically speaking to be fair, it's one and the same in this case.

>>508912523
>Apparently some guy in the navy spent his entire life, like 40 years, studying and documenting different sizes and shapes of portholes, and the depths they can take
yeah it was me with your mum and all of your sisters

>>508912590
>sir where do i toilet?
behind the curtain in the bucket
>oh sir i did not expecting such luxury, surely my wife in pakistan will regret not coming

>>508908533 (OP)
wasn't it some dumb paki?

>>508912331
>legally this is as funny as brits are allowed to be now

>>508911890
Yeah, but that bit is just the absolute peak of retardation. You're making a submersible hull and you're literally making holes in it.

>>508912897
What are you talking about, prick? The water didn't crush them

>>508910415
it was found awhile after it happened so the fish ate the corpses

>>508910684
first hull only did 4 or 5 dives before they had to sack it. the 2nd was done at dive 80 after only a few full dives as well, but they ignored the huge cracking sound.

i see it all the time on bike forums, people buy a nice expensive bike with carbon everything and every single time something eventually fails. some are so bad like forks randomly exploding that people die from it because it gives out on a down hill and they fly into a tree

>>508911073
the titanic wasnt air tight and was already submerged with water when it was sinking that deep so there was no pressure difference to cause it to explode

>>508908533 (OP)
That latest doc was amazing. Really. Took chances to really feature the engineering at risk of alienating retards. So good.

>>508908984
>achieved something
This is not quality trolling

>>508912057
found it eventually
https://youtu.be/CxBtZmyPzVA?t=928

>>508908984
He succeeded in making headlines cause his faggot redditor ass was obsessed with being famous and knew his shithole sub was a sinking coffin

>>508910452
It doesn't really matter if the fibres were complete rings, because the fibres wouldn't do anything in a vessel like this in the first place. It would be important with a conventional pressure vessel, but since it was a submarine the fibres were really just reducing the strength of the (already vastly insufficient) resin hull.

>>508913318
Titan did 13 dives to Titanic depth before failing, and its catastrophic failure was the first dive that didn't get instantly scrubbed after the cracking sound incident. If you watch the detailed breakdowns and see just how shitty the entire construction process was and how many corners were cut, just being 10% less shitty in every individual aspect would have gone a long way.

>>508914216
Where can I watch this?

>>508914162
I've been ignoring schizo trolls but that is juts dumb bruh.
>carbon fiber composite doesn't need the carbon fiber
Think about what you're saying

>>508911073
The Titanic was the most advanced submersible in human history.

>>508914417
YT channel by the name of Solar Eclipse Timer has a very detailed breakdown series going into depth with every single aspect of the thing's construction.

>>508914584
Thank you very much Anon.

>>508914417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxBtZmyPzVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAAQVntpk00

>>508914688
>Floyd
Kek, thanks as well
Probably going to watch them all tonight.

>>508908533 (OP)
a 10-7 inch carbon fiber hull was recommended and wrapped with 45 degree angles he ignored this also sanded imperfections in the hull so we dont really know if carbon fiber is a good pressure hull since it wasn't made properly

>>508914930
also it was the glue that failed not the carbon fiber hull

Some of the hearing stuff is good too
>onee of the directors at the time was told by Stockton he wanted him to be the pilot
>he basically said "fuck you no way i'm going in that thing"

>>508914216

I still can't believe that they didn't first test a hull to destruction and then set the lifetime at half that number of dives, but instead just threw on some sonic/shear sensors with the vague hope that'd give them enough warning (as in not telling you the hull's delaminating when you're an hour below the surface), and then when those sensors then actually worked on the last ascent and said STOP NOW, they just ignored them and went down to die

Every time I think about it I feel like I'm going insane. It'd be like miners ditching every gas safety system and just bringing a canary, and then when that canary dies just shrugging and continuing deeper into the methane

>>508915075
Kek

>>508914080
I still can't believe he used the Logitech meme controller.

I have a lot of sneed pics mixed in around my oceangate memes.
I guess those two were popular at the same time.

if i was suicidal id go just fart in the sub

>>508908533 (OP)
I read an article where he was specifically told that every time he heard a pop during decent or assent, it was a carbon fiber bond snapping. And once it snapped, it's gone - zero integrity after that. So you had a design that was inherently limited in lifespan. Each dive down and up, there's a bunch of popping noises, and each one is a small step closer to an unknown but inevitable point of catastrophic failure.
And this guy kept making dives with his video game controller without a clue as to what would be the final pop. Just an amazing level of stupidity.

>>508915246
eh i felt people were more focused on that than the faults in carbon fiber stuff,as far as using a controller, im not sure what the problem is there is, it'll work as well as anything else in sending commands to the craft.

>>508915286
Lol I rewatched that the other day, top film. Also mental that James Cameron actaully became a sub guy too

>>508910452
>Company that was to heat treat the hull refused to do 5 inches at once, so they did it in 1 inch layers that were cured separately then a layer of glue and another inch added and cured, 5 times. Meaning that the first layer was already cured whent he second layer was added, then cured again when doing the second layer and so on
holy shit

>>508915605
James Cameron is a seriously cool dude.
You can tell he's an arrogant cunt, too, but he's one of the person that it looks good on.
He deserves to be arrogant.

Motherfucker made Terminator 2 and went to the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

>>508908533 (OP)
Ignorance is treatable; arrogance is not.

>>508915584
Kek

>>508915531
It's the flippant attitude towards using a $10 control for a complex submersible and dive operation like that. It's representative of his half-assed attitude in all other areas as well, especially safety.

>>508915531
Honestly the biggest problem OceanGate has was how shitty and unreliable the sub's electronics were. Most of the attempted dives were scrubbed due to electronics issues, wiring issues, losing communications with the surface, navigation failures. They were only operating on such razor thin margins due to the sheer number of failed dives. If they had just spared no expensive on the electronics and software they easily could have done enough dives to pay for replacing the hull in a safe number of dives.

>>508915814
US Navy uses Xbox controllers.

>>508915852
That specific model of Logitech controller is terrible

>>508911191
This narcissistic human slime was also pro-diversity and didn't wanna hire white men. I'm sorry for his victims but I'm glad he got pulverized into jelly in that deathtrap.

>iceberg
every single time

>>508915922
Yeah, I bet. I would've used top shelf controllers.
I'm just saying the idea of using a game controller is okay.

>>508915852
It's called redundancy.

>>508915691
The best one now is the Limiting factor, basically classed as unlimited depth.

Camerons sub apparently was set on fire while being transported somewhere but it would have lasted no doubt, they all use the metal sphere at the core which is the optimal design.

>>508908533 (OP)
stockton rush and his carbon fibre submarine titan went down in history and ocean, literally implosion level happenings happened down there and the titanic just wached (she was the cukkqueen in this situation).

>>508908533 (OP)
Should have hired old white male engineers

>>508910238
This.

Didn't his kid die too? That is a good darwin award.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwnOI1yniL4

>>508916047
They brought multiple controllers.

>>508908984
it's better to do nothing than kill other people through negligence

>>508908533 (OP)
They manually sanded imperfections in the CF? You can't be fucking serious.

>>508908984
If you go on 10 successful trips and the last trip is unsuccessful then you are dead, him and the crew were the test subjects

>>508916212
Bringing a few extra AAs or controllers isn't solving their problem.

>>508911603
The video game controller wasn't the stupid part. A dualstick is already a perfectly good control surface. Lots of surprisingly advanced systems use ordinary gamepads because they're cheap and made to hold up. You couldn't purpose build a better item for cheaper if what you need is a controller for something.
The dumb part of using cheap gamepads was not bringing like four of them.

>>508908533 (OP)
He probably wanted to die and decided to take some people with him.

>>508910476
A jew just can't resist saving a shekel

>>508916403
yup
https://youtu.be/sE4uSjQoa3A?t=502

>>508915852
Not for submarine controls. It's also a known reliable controller.

>>508908533 (OP)
Stockton Rushdi will always be remembered you bastard bitch!

>>508908533 (OP)
They killed Stockton Rush because they didn't want him to destroy their submarine monopoly.

>>508908533 (OP)
Technically it was until it wasn't. It's not like it was the vessels first trip to the Titanic.

>>508910415
You don't understand how pressure works. When the sub failed at that depth, the bodies were basically mulched instantly. No pain, no suffering. Just some rich assholes one moment and paste the next.

>>508911520
implication here is that titanic was inside job, just like stockton rush's titan, it was intended to kill, a mousetrap if you will.

>>508908533 (OP)
>euroach built that

There’s your problem. euroaches can’t navigate the seas unless satan helps them

>>508916604
Alos the end of the cylinder had to ground down to fit in the recess of the ring because it came out a bit over 5 inches when finished. That little recess in the bottom of the ring was the entire attaching point of the cylinder to the ring, and that was joined with a hand-applied layer of glue. The thin flanges around the ring were completely sheered off in the wreckage.

>>508915997
I don't think I saw this one before

>>508915531
It's not that they used a controller; off the shelf solutions are great. It's just that specific controller was a meme on /v/ and this chucklefuck was using it in another episode of meme synchronicity. Personally, I would have used some kind of flight sim yoke, but that's just me.

>>508908533 (OP)
this is essentially rich people in a nutshell. dumb and dumber.
and if they are doing something where they don't die, they can just continue throwing all their stolen money at it until they succeed and then call themselves successful. and nobody actually digs into the true cost of their "success" and how it compares to other endeavors.

>>508908984
>90 cars drove on my bridge before it collapsed, that means my bridge was successful

>>508908533 (OP)
I'm so fascinated by this. He basically made a submarine out of a spool of twine and glue. Start to finish cut corners. They would actually tow the sub behind them letting it get beat by waves. The cracking sound... I think he wanted to die on some level.

>>508909995
Or coming up with a 1/3 design that doesn't explode in tests before you actually build the real thing and become so financially and personally invested that you want to personally pilot it down and bet your life that it will work

>>508917240
They also didn't pay for a storage facility and just left the sub sitting out in a parking lot in the off season exposed to Canadian winter.

did they ever retrieve the bodies?

>>508916898
This fucking glued joint literally scares me to look at it, how could they have thougt that was good enough. Its a combination of shit design, shit construction. Sphere is strongest, metal is strongest. A carbon fiber sphere might have worked, or a metal tube, but this combination seems instinctively retarded to me.

>>508917350
There were no bodies left to recover

>>508917350
yeah they caught all the crabs in a 2 mile radius and evacuated theit stomachs

>>508908659
His customers had no idea how dangerous it was. He was a darwin award winner, but they got conned by him.

>>508908533 (OP)
Stockton Rush sounds like the name of a comic book villain I swear.

>>508917350
It would be red mist, it looks like everything got sucked into the back end, implying the front came off or the seal broke there, and they would have got vaporised. Some scraps of clothing were found is all I saw.

>>508908984
They only made 13 successful dives to the titanic. On the 14th the whole thing collapsed. He even knew it was deteriorating, but did nothing about it. He was a suicidal retard.

>>508908533 (OP)
I feel bad for the kid whose dad pressured him (lol) into going when he expressed second thoughts before the dive.
The others earned their place as fish food.

>>508910452
The funniest thing is he did all of this to save money. Carbon fiber is cheaper and much lighter to transport the sub around. How much was his life worth?

>>508912192
>they was alive for around 3 days
dumb nigger of the day award
the navy has tapes from listening posts, they know exactly when it imploded

>>508917682
that's pretty sad. its pretty relatable too since i think if i was in his position, i would've done it too.

>>508917861
They defo knew it had imploded, I think they kept it as a "search and rescue" because there is a maritime law that anyone in range has to help, and there was a ship in range that had deep rovers. If they had changed it to wreck recovery, then they would not be obligated to help.

>>508917642
You'll notice that all the xbox controllers used by the military are wired, because wireless is dangerously unreliable for something as critical as controlling a vessel.

>>508908984
>but he actually achieved something while your sorry shitty brown ass will be forever terminally online seething about others.
....this would be a better burn if he wasn't dead on the bottom of the ocean, anon

>>508917350
There was nothing left of them, they were crushed into dust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7T_QsoX2Pw

>>508916702
Word has it that he had information on Hillary Clinton and her pedophilic ways.

>>508908984
>plays Russian roulette
Click*
>hahaha I did not ded!!
Click*
>hahahahah!!! I am smar! So smar!!!
BANG
>…..

>>508915814
It's actually the one intelligent decision he made
He needed an input system to control the craft along 4 axes. He could have a custom setup built for thousands of dollars, or just use a $25 video game controller which is the end result of decades of experience and untold millions of dollars of design and manufacturing meant to produce the best possible input system for exactly what you need. Actually with twin sticks and analog shoulders it's far more precision than you'd need

>>508918552
But the question is, why did he go with a notoriously bad controller instead of an actually solid and reliable one?

>>508917381
Glue doesn't hold my fucking security camera up and they use it as a structural component. Lol

>>508908984

I hope you were being retarded as a joke.

In between layers, there was enough movement for the glue to be ground into a powder.

>>508917642
>>508918139
It's also a highly tested and reliable controller that has had tens of millions if hours of use, where the Logitech one is known to be a piece of shit.

>>508918706
I like to think he was a secret /v/irgin

>>508908533 (OP)
This wasn’t even real and you are a total fag for
>believing
>caring
>remembering
>posting
Kill yourself

>>508918552
>or just use a $25 video game controller which is the end result of decades of experience and untold millions of dollars of design and manufacturing

No, he used a 3rd party knockoff controller that people were constantly complaining in reviews had disconnection problems.

The military uses Xbox controllers, this guy used some cheap knockoff.

>>508908533 (OP)
It was a woman engineer team behind
.

>>508916585
Correct. Everything indicates murder suicide. For all we know he knifed everyone to death first and then crushed the sub knowing that there would be no evidence.

>>508908533 (OP)
>You forgot the truck bed liner overcoat

>>508917655
the retard didnt take the pops of carbon fiber as a weakening of the hull; but rather a 'seasoning' of it.

>>508917381
An inch of glue seems like a reasonable bonding area when you are diving to the bottom of the ocean. Plus all those old white guys didn't know what they were doing anyway.

>>508910415
>implode yourself at 150 atmospheres of pressure
>theres no body left so its fake

>>508917480
There is no evidence they were still alive when it was crushed. He likely lived out a serial killer murder fantasy and then kept diving to hide the evidence.

>>508911326
Ngl feel sorry for the crab just walking along minding its own business there.

>>508918552
It's not the control input itself - it's being a smug cunt about doing it for $10 dollars, as if everyone else was a stupid fuck for building redundancy into a sub that's going 3-4 miles down.
Guess what - that shit attitude is everywhere else in all of the his other design decisions.

>>508917655
>They only made 13 successful dives to the titanic
Post proof. There is no reason to believe anything that guy ever said.

>>508908533 (OP)
the cf hull was safe the glue connecting to the titanium caused the problem

>>508917381
I think thats where it failed too, if the hull bows in the middle slightly, then it pushes out the flanges on the ring. Or any flaw means the cylinder would be slightly off-round or if the titanium ring is affected differently then the carbon fiber then that joint fails. The front dome was found a bit away from the rest of it and the flanges were torn clean off. Front ring failure point, everything squashed into the back end

>>508918710
He should have used double sided tape lol

>>508908533 (OP)
>>despite everyone telling him its not
nah, only old White men told him it wasn't safe which is why he refused to hire them.

>>508919454
it wouldnt have bowed as much if at all if the hull was 10 inch carbon fiber like he was told to do

Carbon fiber is only strong under tension. Not compression.

>>508919454
They might gotten away with some steel rings in the middle to mitigate bowing.

>>508908533 (OP)
Why are submarine guys insane, Remember that one that raped and murdered a reporter who went with him on his personal sub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Madsen

>>508919681
Yeah that might have helped. Its just everything together. It seems like a structurally weak design, joining two different materials together that will react differently under pressure, also using unconventional material, also being manufactured poorly, and not tested enough to save money. The more you look into it, the more inevitable it seems.

>>508914441
The fibre reinforcement provides tensile strength. This just isn't an appropriate application for carbon fibre.

>>508909487
It would go well in my garden, quite a good souvenir of an extremely comfy happening

>>508919948
>This just isn't an appropriate application for carbon fibre
how so? considering the carbon fiber didnt fail it was the glue between it and the dome where the water made its way in

>>508910110
I unironically believe he had a death wish

>>508908533 (OP)
But the diverse young women he hired after firing all those dull, old white men said it was fine. How could things have gone wrong?!

>>508919289
>as if everyone else was a stupid fuck for building redundancy into a sub that's going 3-4 miles down.
They did have control redundancy, though, through the screen. It'd take a total electrical failure to leave the sub uncontrollable, and in that case they had two absolute-zero-power ascent solution, electromagnetically held weights and weights that could be rocked off.
He was smug about not spending thousands to create a big custom video game controller when you could buy 100 arguably better controllers for that price, and in that one thing he was correct.

Now, for not testing this experimental hull to destruction and then setting the service life as 50% of the number of dives? Suicidally stupid. Slapping some acoustic/shear sensors on the hull and hoping that'd give you enough warning of delamination to surface before you're all instantly atomized? Almost insanely unbelievably suicidally stupid stupid. And then by sheer incredible dumb bastard luck those sensors actually worked perfectly and caught the hull breaking on its last-ever ascent and he just ignored it and took a bunch of people to their stupid unnecessary deaths

>>508911825
Thats not a serb you retarded ape it's a slovenian aka slavic femboi.

>>508911073
Titanic was really built for deep space exploration, built like a brick shithouse, everything's fine in there

>>508920272
>Stockton Rush died stupidly so he wasn't recast as black

>>508920263
Actuallt even worse, its a slovak.

>>508920058
I mean it kinda did fail, its in pieces, whereas the domes are intact. But its just a question of where if failed first, if the hull cracked and popped the front off or the other way round.

>>508919948
Yeah everyone was telling him it was unsuitable, but despite that, i think the carbon fiber in the composite is necessary for it to have a chance at all. A solid reesin hull wouldn't do, or they would have done that.

The main unsuitability is the fatigue that occurs. As ,mpeople have said, it made it down there a few times. But each time it goes down and back up, fibers crack, weakiening it each time. Every trip could have been th last.

>>508910176
Fuck off Praty you parasite. White excellence is why you are infesting Switzerland you dishonorable piece of trash.

>>508920396
would the exact same design using steel or titanium be safe? or does it have to be a sphere

>>508910781
>he thinks humans have free will
God knew that he was gonna do it anyways lol

>>508908533 (OP)
Carbon fiber is totally fine. Just not the garbage off cuts he bought and had improperly assembled.

>>508908984
Slav engineering, everyone.

>>508920518
>would the exact same design using steel or titanium be safe?
You can make a titanium tube that'd be totally safe, but it'd be massively heavy and unbelievably expensive to make compared to a sphere, which is itself incredibly heavy and expensive to make compared to CF

Gonna name my boat The Stockton Crush

>>508920608
Hey now dont lump us with slovaks, they are more german then slavic anyway.
We gave you Tesla.

>>508920518
A sphere is the optimal shape for distributing pressure, but he wanted a more spacious design. You could no doubt overcome the inherent weakness of a tube design with strong enough materials. There probably is some calculation of how thick it would need to be to work with a titanium tube, but I don't know it. I just think the way it was all joined together was flawed from the start, whereas an entire metal build would be easier to mate the parts together.

>>508920185
They couldn't even communicate back to the surface reliably. Everything, including their electronics, had corners cut and were shit.
The results speak for themselves regardless of how you want to nuance the good, bad, and ugly of their design choices.

>>508920607
there are many things he did wrong creating the carbon fiber hull i wonder how a properly made carbon fiber hull wouldve held up? maybe a shorter life but maybe long enough to still be worth it for the weight and lower costs

>>508910476
>white guys bad
>but I'm one of the "good" white guys
>watch me throw other white guys under the bus to prove I'm a good goy
>gets squashed under the ocean
pure pottery

>>508910781
Yeah obviously you drooling fucking retard, thats why that prick is alive tod- OH WAIT

I cannot conceive a mental image of what would have happened to the bodies.

>>508920736
Imagine, if you would.
An ovoid.
Of course, that's even more annoying to design. Just build a bigger sphere.

>>508921301
Imagine very finely ground beef with bones in it.

>>508920955
Concrete principles in reverse. Tension it during construction, pressure counteracts inherent tension.

>>508921301
You don't need to. It's the third link in the OP.

>>508921380
At least some of it boiled due to massive spike in pressure heating up everything. I'm sure the ocean dwellers appreciated the rare treat.

>>508921322
Yeah its spheres all the way for me, I wouldn't set foot in anything non-spherical. Need more space, just make it bigger and thicker.

This the newest current deepest diver that has been to the bottom of the mariana trench multiple times, at its core underneatht he shell is a titanium sphere. Its rated "unlimited depth" and will probably be in service for decades. YOu know if this has made it multiple times, its going to be alright many more times. The pressure sphere will last with no problems for a long time. For extreme depth and pressure, the design of it is not to be fucked with, even the hatch and porthole design is such that the deeper it goes, the tighter the seal gets. If it loses power, it automatically drops any weights and rises.

>>508908984
maybe you should go down there and put all the pieces of his dick back together so you can suck it

>>508915197
True, but it turns out those sensors actually worked, but were ignored. This will play heavily in whether or not the USCG recommends criminal charges be brought against OceanGate. They have all the data from them and can see how fucked the sub got woth each trip

>>508921573
how about carbon fiber sphere

>>508909487
HAVE SOME FUCKING RESPECT YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!

>>508910729
Hyrule was a christian kingdom before.

>>508921699
That might actually work, if they can get round the production problems. I reckon it would be stronger that a tube anyway

>>508921699
Would be a nightmare to construct and wind, later by later with hole for window and you would still need flanges to seal the thing together. Same problem as dissimilar materials under pressure. A sphere isn't a solid cast sphere perse. It's two hemispheres bolted together.

>>508908984
Russian roulette. There was no way of knowing how many cycles it would sustain and 3000m depths were too deep but the idiot went ahead.

>>508921817
True, they would probly have to join the two carbon fiber domes the same with a metal ring, same problem

I just turned on a Netflix documentary about this and as the opening credits were coming on I took out my phone and saw this thread.
/spoopy/

>>508919454
including the fuel tanks for clarity

>>508921775
yaccine?

Their idiocy will always be remembered in meme form

>>508908533 (OP)
this one the Aluminaut looks pretty cool solid aluminum lots of room inside and can safely go 5000m

>>508921981
Oh yeah I forgot the front window too

>>508910819
We all know that being inspirational is much more important than a discipline like say physics or mechanical engineering. Fuck all of that White 50 yo shit. Pass me that aftermarket XBox controller please.

>>508922127
Didn't know about that one, inside it looks like segments with bracing rings, pretty strong for a tube I reckon. Maybe Stockton shoulda done a bit of history research could go deeper than his did

>The Aluminaut was retired in 1970
>However, the submersible continues to be maintained in case it needs to be returned to active service.

>>508908533 (OP)
>cracking sounds when testing it himself, carried on anyway
It's probably fine.

>>508908533 (OP)
Never thought I'd get so much use out of this meme when I made it. But here we are.

>>508922201
Kek

Brilliant. I'm just going to ignore the science and engineers that say this is a really bad idea and do it anyway. One less idiot on the planet. Good riddance.

>>508915112
Kek

>>508908533 (OP)
He had to be a really intelligent and logical man to become a billionaire.

My personal opionion is that he wanted to die, wanted to kill himself secretly. He knew that every dive could be his last. And before the last one, he knew that too many cracks developed. He knew this was his last trip, so he took his son with him, as many murder suicide people do. It was all planned.

>>508920954
>They couldn't even communicate back to the surface reliably.
That's really hard to do through 12,500 feet of Atlantic Ocean. The bandwith is a few bps

Disaster in the making. I've never seen anything self implode this hard

>>508923913
Look at his eyes. He wanted to die.

>>508908533 (OP)
Got off to easy being crushed in an instant.

>>508908533 (OP)
THIS SUMMER
”Dad that movie was lit! I wish I could see the wreck in person!”
“Of course you can son, we’re rich!”
THIS FAMILY LEARNS
“We’re approaching the wreck now.”
“Ayo, that controller looks like it was made in Ohio bruh!”
THAT MONEY DOESN’T BUY EVERYTHING
“WE’RE GOING DOWN!!”
“IF ONLY NINJA WAS HERE TO CONTROL THIS THING!”
*Cut to military base*
“Uh huh, I understand”
*Camera flips, it’s fucking JK Simmons.*
“Alright men, We’re estimating that the vessel has only 36 hours of emergency oxygen.”
“This’ll be a piece of cake!”
*Cue music*
IT’S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
“We're afraid the vessel is soon going to implode."
“Well, that blows, literally!"
*Shots of rescue planes and boats heading to sea*
*Interior shot of the boat*
*Close up of captains face as he farts*
"Jeez I hope no one heard that!"
*Shows sonar picking up the noise*
IN THIS TRUE STORY
“There are only 4 hours left!"
YOU WILL LEARN OF TRUE HUMAN COURAGE
*Music cuts*
*Sound of water hitting the interior*
*Everyone looks over to see the capitain pissing*
“Well, I can't go if you're all looking!"
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
Titanic 2: Submerged

>>508924116
BRAVO NOLAN
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>>508915531
If you'd ever used one of those you'd know better than to bet your life on one.

>>508924069
you're 3000m down you pull out a little drill and start drilling into the acrylic window how does stockon react

>>508924116
>IF ONLY NINJA WAS HERE TO CONTROL THIS THING!
Apparently Mr Beast was offered a ride. Turned it down though, shame.

>>508911326
the poor crab was just coming to see what was making all that noise, then it gets sucked thru a 1/8 inch slice in the pipe. F
Delta P. once It's got you, It's got you.

carbon fiber wrapped around a thinner steel pressure hull might work safely, though maybe it won't if the compression causes cracking of the carbon fiber still.

>>508924573
what about an insulated tube and the outside heats red hot forming a constant bubble of steam around it

>>508921699
no

>>508908533 (OP)
What were they doing down there bros?

Even the name is like a cult, ocean gate.. just like heaven's gate.

The main problems are two
1. Is that they did not send a 'dummy' sub first. It would actually test if they would survive.
2. They used the same sub that was used for tests as their main sub. They should've built another one. The carbon gets destroyed with every dive. It's like having a brand new car for test drive and then sell the same testing car straight to market,makes no sense.

>>508908533 (OP)
guy dont laugh how about they seal you into a glass ball and they drop you down to titanic then scoop you up later

>>508914913
kek

>>508925562

i like my idea personally

>>508925286
They had previously done dives to the same depth, but that was actually part of the problem because the design of the sub meant that it degraded each time.

>>508924865
I believe one or more of the big naval powers are working on.a torpedo design like this, which would allow the it to travel much much faster than ordinary torpedoes.

>>508909415
90 dives (13 actually completed) + implosion
vs
Over 5,200 dives + still in active service

>>508908984
So much this. Chuds malding.

>>508920976
I am so glad he's dead it's insane.

>>508917682
>kid
19. Legal adult. Should've known better.

You know what's crazy
The water down there is under so much pressure, it's compressed into a smaller volume, compressed by about 2%. So when the Titan gave out, the water was not being pushed in by gravity, it was literally exploding into the chamber.

Pretty cool right?

>>508911326
Reminds me of this chappy getting sucked out of the spaceship in alien: resurrection

>weaved carbon fibre in constant 0° line instead of recommended layers like 0, 45, 0, 45
>lumps appeared after some time meaning tension control was incorrect and was compromised
>they sanded / ground the lumps out, hurting the structural integrity
>they decided to do five 1 inch thick layers with glue rather than a 5 inch single layer because of the lumps
>it was not done in a clean room and people had touched the weave with their bare hands
>hull was hand glued to the cylinder in a non clean room and was entirely comprised
>hull had fallen off once before
>acrylic viewport was only rated to 1,300m (titanic is 4,000m (though not the point of failure, is fucking stupid in its own right)
>was stored outside in Canadian weather, so winters would continually freeze, melt, freeze (expand and contract)
>was poorly towed in the ocean, basically half above water and continually crashed into waves etc.
>allegedly the first model was hit by lighting (I can't find source), so god was telling them no
>had an "audio failsafe" listening for cracks but ignored the data
>loud noise is speculated that one of the 1" thick layers had come undone
>data when plotted in another way they didn't do shows that the structural integrity was different after the loud bang
>continued for another 2 dives
>was never certified, had to launch in international waters to avoid laws, had to call the paying customers apart of the crew to avoid more laws etc.
>was never tested until failure
Probably missed some things but basically it's just a DIY job that Stockton Rush is now Stockton Crush.

Not to mention the literal off the shelf parts like a camping light, a plastic box and computer fan for carbon capture, a plastic box as a toilet etc..

Also Carbon fibre has been tested before and went down further than Oceangate did. However they did it properly and heavily analysed it after every dive looking for structural change. It was decommissioned as it had a short life span.

>>508922385
Das rite! Muhfuggin crackers not seasoning they engineering

This has got to be the best idiot ever >>508908984
Found his asian wife too >>508926406
>it was fine!
why are they all dead and can you see the picture in the OP?
You have seethed so long that your brain has died of it.
Now both of you, post selfies so we can all have a good laugh about the shape of your heads.

>>508908984
>a bunch successful trips
did you even watch the doc you retard? he didn't even hit 4k but instead aborted and said he did it on purpose because 3939 was a lucky number. His sub never went deeper than 4k yet he insisted doing the first sub 4k trip with paying tourists on board, literally a test run that he didn't dare to try alone by his own.

>>508911960
lol

kek, i subbed to Oceangate's youtube a few years before the disaster
i went back to the channel when i was deleting some subs and they had since deleted everything on the channel

>>508908984
>Gets himself killed
>Except he made a bunch successful trips
Brother...

>>508915791
Don't care about left panel. Right panel sparks joy.

>>508911890
> Carbon fiber fatigues like aluminum

No, it doesn't, actually. When properly designed it has indefinite fatigue life like steel. You can make a sub out of carbon fiber, the USN had a tech demonstrator made out of CFRP for a while.

This shit however, was very far from properly designed, and operated by complete retards.

> t. Aerostructures enginerd

I was crushed when I heard what happened. They will be mist.

>>508926839
>loud noise indicating partial structural failure
>continued for another 2 dives
lmao

>>508911890
Does carbon fiber have an endurance limit at all?

>>508926839
>they sanded / ground the lumps out

Stockton must've listened to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjwkXYB4nHs

But yes it's absolutely nuts that they sanded the carbon fiber layers. Even Stockton with expertise in aero, he must have known better. But they were paying huge $$$ for the carbon fiber assembly and pressured to just sand it down and go with it.

The proper way I gather is even more $$$$, requires huge a vacuum oven. Probably out of their budget. And probably one reason people use steel or titanium - ends up being cheaper once they consider the high expense in proper manufacture of carbon fiber.

>>508927660
https://youtu.be/o2h4FHmTmeE?t=485
he's shitting himself in his own sub
>close enough
>>508927802
They did vaccum oven it, one inch at a time for five inches total, and sanded each 1 inch layer inbetween
https://youtu.be/sE4uSjQoa3A

>>508912192
The naval listening buoys heard the bang not long after they went down. So no, they did not survive 3 days. Anon was indicating how the media hyped up a rescue when the navy/coast guard was well aware of the bang which indicated the implosion. They have enough sounding buoys they can triangulate the approximate location, similar to earth quakes. They knew they were goners hours after they launched, but yet allowed the media to run with it. It should make you think.

>>508911073
Grab a scuba tank, a regulator and a weight belt. Dive down 50ft and check your air tank volume. Return to the surface and check your air tank volume. You will understand.

>>508911073
So they need a wooden submersible rather than a metal one? Reminds me of a certain camp back in the 1940's that also used wooden doors.

>>508926213
That's exactly what I am saying. Maybe if the used a brand new, upgraded version of the sub, it would work. This should should've been a test sub to build the 'real one' ,then they should've done test with the final sub model while building a second one that is 1:1 similar to the final test sub. Then dive.

>>508928005
The 5 layer process was also guess work, assuming that the 5 layers would be equivalent of one solid 5 inch thick hull. Nobody had any data on that. The first layer is already cured when the second layer is being applied, with an adhesive between, then cured again , then same for each layer, so the 1st layer has been through the vaccuum oven 5 times. Did the next layer shrinking onto an already cured layer even properly bind with the glue sheet inbetween? In the wreckage you can see what looks like separated layers

>>508928431
What they shoulda done, like someone else has mentioned, is test it repeatedly to destruction and see how many pressure cycles it took to fail, then say about half of that is its safe usable lifetime and replace it whenever you get to that amount of dives. But it would have cost too much, so he decided not to bother, thats it. It was always going to fail at some point, and they had no idea how many trips it would last, they were relying on some sensors to tell them if it was cracking, but that was bullshit. It was basically russian roulette. I guess we know now about how many times is safe I guess.

Also, in science failures drive innovation, so his mistakes would probably lead to better safety measures and innovation in the sphere. He was a good goy.

>>508918991
white engineers don't season they hulls.

>>508928005
Ah yeah I got it wrong.

I think it's still very correct to say, they tried to cheap out on the carbon fiber manufacture. They probably needed significant R&D to sort out the lump issue but they opted to convince themselves it wasn't a problem.

>>508928647
Having in mind how cheap was the sub built with its many flaws I don't think it can be taken as an example for how much such a model can last. I can assure you that if you had a crew/company whatever building a proper sub in similar style would probably have succeeded. Proper test divings,proper test on the electronics, endurance of the sub etc, having back up plans etc. The whole thing was a scam. I wonder, how can rich people like the indian guy and his son end up in such situation? Don't they have half a brain? How did this Pajeet become a billionaire, but could not see that the vessel was his coffin?

>>508928453
It's amazing that thing went down once... Let alone 13 times. It was borrowed time.

You can see Stocktons face in the university pressure labs listening to his test hulls exploding at 3000M when he knew he had to get to 4100M. The look of pure dispare as he pulls the test hull out of the tube is a clear indicator he knew he fucked up and had made his decisions to just die with his ideas.

Years in a millions of dollars into thr project he knew it was over. He knew he wasn't going to be making any money. His whole business model was retarded and his engineering project was ticking time bomb. PH Nargolet, who became his best friend, also knew what was going on and was just as suicidal as Stockton about the idea. He even went as far as to say multiple times "I've had a good life"

These expeditions were Russian roulette missions only Stockton never wanted to stop spinning the barrel. He wanted to die quickly and painlessly in the ocean taking others with him.

You dont have 15 engineers and 100 industry experts tell you this is going fail please dont do this and then skirt around as many laws as you can without having a death wish. He had a clear deathwish.

>>508915629
I feel like it needs a Sadam.

>>508928658
Nah. Everything has been tested already. He wasn't ground breaking in any way, only that he did a DIY project that had massive flaws every step of the way and lead to his death.

Interesting pic too, this is one of the joining rings where it was glued to the cylinder. Patches of noglue, not a trace of carbon fiber still attached

>>508927374
>When properly designed it has indefinite fatigue life like steel.
That's like saying communism is the perfect government it just needs to be implemented correctly. No one designs and builds carbon fiber shit correctly.
>You can make a sub out of carbon fiber, the USN had a tech demonstrator
And yet the USN makes their subs out of steel.
> t. Aerostructures enginerd
I maintain aircraft designed by retarded faggots like you. Carbon fiber and composites are overused and rarely perform as promised. I can't imagine how fucked that hull was under the type of stress it was exposed to. Thing about steel is it can be repaired. Carbon fiber is just fucked if its compromised.

KINO thread

>>508929175
I meant that he had to test his DIY subject first instead of going all in selling tickets to death :3 There were tests, but not to that depth. Also the vessel was in better condition, he had to use a new one for every dive to have accurate results.

>>508928658
>innovation in the sphere
If only he had used a sphere instead of a cylinder.

>>508929175
They were already using a solid 5 inch hull on the first version the cyclops. That got cracked by fucking lightning and then they basically took off the end domes and rings and made a new cylinder, making the titan out of the same rings. This second version of the hull was done differently in 5x1 inch layers, that they assumed would work the same but that wasn't thoroughly tested.